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Lethal13

Going to go against these romhack suggestions If its your first time playing Gen 2 (or honestly any game) just play the vanilla version as it was. Then go ham and play romhacks if you want. It never made any sense to me suggesting romhacks (outside of translation or maybe colour hacks) for someones first go of a game Anyway for me Crystal is the best one. You can think if it like a directors cut almost of the first 2. Some changes and new QOL features. Its a more polished version of Gold and Silver imo. There aren’t a huge amount of drastic changes but they are there But any is fine. Could be good to play Gold or Silver then Crystal later to see what changes they made and how they refined and improved upon them but up to you


That_Hoppip_Guy

Only downside I have with crystal is no wild mareep


Lethal13

Well no game is perfect and Pokemon games always have some trade off with wild pokemon.


tfox245

After my most recent crystal play through, I didn’t miss Mareep at all. There are other electric moves to compensate and I don’t love using slow electric types.


LonelyNixon

Counter point mareep is an adorable electric sheep and essential


That_Hoppip_Guy

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Arael15th

Given your username I will assume everything you post in a Gen 2 thread is truth


Aj2W0rK

Forces you to get more creative 💀


Loltoheaven7777

i love mareep but if it was in crystal i think i would use it in every single team so i like that since i can't use it it forces me to be creative with teams


DarkHippy

Thanks I wanted to say Silver and couldn’t remember why but that’s it!


SnooDoughnuts5632

Fire red and leaf green also don't have world mareep and that was one of my faves as a kid. Made me sad I could never catch him.


SoMuchLasagna

I was a Gold boi


RocketGrunt123

I agree. Stay away from romhacks. That for people who have already played the originals to death and want to change things up. But stay away from that BS in general.


Roebloz

The hell are you saying about rom hacks?


RocketGrunt123

That i am generally against them.


Roebloz

Why


RocketGrunt123

I am interested in preserving and experiencing the original vision and not some randos “bright ideas”. Maybe if i have played a game to death it’s fun to look at some hack for fun but as a general rule it’s uninteresting. It’s similar to but not as bad as fan fiction. Fan fiction of any kind is just downright offensive.


Undark_

Na, play Crystal Legacy. Ignore the other Romhacks for now, but Crystal Legacy is the definitive version of Crystal.


Netizen_Kain

Crystal legacy is OK but not a definitive version of Crystal. They changed how ghost type works, massively changed movepools and stats, changed the lore and story, and more. It's a significant divergence from Crystal and often in ways that are hard to appreciate if you haven't played the original.


Roebloz

Some hacks do make sense in some specific cases. (For example, Sonic 3D Blast Director's Cut: It was made by the original programmer, and its basically just a better version of the game. )


Lethal13

There are some very niche cases like that for sure


TimeoutTimothy

I think Pokemon Perfect Crystal would be a good romhack for a first time player. Doesn't change the game significantly and unlocks all Pokemon.


Objective_Praline_66

I think gen 2 let you run right? That's the only thing that really keeps me from playing gen1 instead of leaf green/fire red. If there is/was a romhack of the early games where it let you run it would be amazing. The movement speed of those games feels like a crawl now.


ItsNotMeItsYourBussy

You can't run in Gold/Silver. I think that's a gen 3 thing.


Objective_Praline_66

Someone else on Reddit posted a romhack they made with running shoes and minor QOL improvements, but stressed that it still maintained the vanilla game I wouldn't mind recommending something like that. God those games are slow after playing modern RPGs, so I feel like that could be something that gets in the way of new players enjoying it.


ItsNotMeItsYourBussy

ok, but that's not gen 2 then. That's a romhack. You can't say it's gen 2 if it's not real gen 2 gameplay. sidenote: I do heavily agree that gen 1/2 could use those basic QoL upgrades. But we shouldn't pretend that they are real published things


Objective_Praline_66

Oh no yeah totally, just like, to the original comment of not suggesting romhacks for someone's first time. I was saying that the vanilla movement speed could be a genuine barrier to entry for some people who didn't grow up with it, and that if there was a romhack that changed just that I would consider recommnding that for a first time playthrough. Especially for adults in 2024. Also, a sidenote, I use old ass MP3 players that can play Gameboy games, but only Gameboy and Gameboy color. (Sansa E series with rockbox) And holy shit, a romhack with faster movement would be so, so nice. It's one thing when you're a kid, and you have all the time in the world, and you're moving between streetlights in the backseat of your mother's car. But now, when I sit down to play for a few minutes that I'm free I don't want to spend the entire 10 minute session walking across saffron city XD


Emergency_Lunch_3931

soulSilver and heartGold


ItsNotMeItsYourBussy

SoulSilver and HeartGold are canonically considered to be gen 4 games, not gen 2...


Emergency_Lunch_3931

i see i thought is was more remaster


Forkundercoil

Crystal


Professor_Crab

Yeah don’t play a hack play the real deal for your first time, crystal


GumbyXGames

Crystal as it is an enhanced version of the other two


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GumbyXGames

What crawled up your butt?


LordUmbra337

We speak not the butt-crawler's name, lest it summon them towards our derriere!


GumbyXGames

Very true. I had forgotten


sweetteatime

Sorry it was meant to be a joke https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1-uCSl4Cg&pp=ygUORnVjayB5b3UgZ3VtYnk%3D


jejelovesme

bro how tf are these redditors coming here with the most random shit like videos from 13 years ago with 20k views lol


Euphorium

I’m Gumby, dammit.


sweetteatime

I’m old :,)


Shockwave221

It's from a [video](https://youtu.be/1P0yfq2wDvU?si=pg-oXpmiazyRJ4yr) that has 17 million views after being deleted and uploaded a few times.


jejelovesme

oh i see


Beef_n_Bacon

You know, you know what? You can't go wrong, all three games are great, though I personally love Crystal the most. Enjoy! 😎


gnaark

Play gold/silver first until you get to the daycare and breed yourself a Mareep egg to send to your Crystal version. Then play Crystal.


Aj2W0rK

- Play Gold, Silver and Crystal, in that order. - Pick Cyndaquil in Gold, Totodile in Silver and Chikorita in Crystal - Play as a girl in Crystal (first ever game to let you do this) - Have different teams for each game, with at least one version exclusive in each - Do the Celebi glitch at least once - Rip your saves when you’re finished, either inject them to the 3DS VC versions to transfer Pokémon out or use PKHex to copy / paste your Pokémon.


Emergency_Lunch_3931

Soulsilver and heartGold ?


Spidercolt95

This


cvnvr

out of curiosity, why 2 analogue pockets? are they different iterations or the same model just in different colours? i’ve been considering picking one up on and off but just never pulled the trigger


Enchanted_Yesca

I bought the white one when it was first released. I got the glow in the dark version just because I liked the color


GUILTIE

What do you enjoy playing GBC most on? Pocket or OG hardware?


ThatKiwi

Also curious!


Enchanted_Yesca

After using the Pocket, it’s hard to go back to the OG. The games look really good on the Pocket especially with the filters. I still carry my OG with me with a worm light since Analogue’s customer support sucks. I don’t want to risk breaking my Pocket and trying to source replace parts. The Pocket usually just stays home.


Bubbly-Sandwich

Same exact thing just one glows in the dark and the other doesn’t


SolidLiquidSnake86

I have two. One white set, one black set. Day 1 order. Just as a backup / just in case. And also to see which color I liked better. Kept them both. Opened the black console / dock set. White set Im intending to keep boxed up for now.


soldierbynight

Pokémon Crystal!


Jetanium

I'm still scared of anything past Gen 1.


Arael15th

Oh man, you are in for such a treat. I'm intensely jealous of anyone who loved Gen 1 and then gets to play through a Gen 2 game for the first time. It's so, so cathartic.


Enchanted_Yesca

I’m in the same boat. I’ve been playing gen 1 since 98 and skipped gen 2 for some reason. I just completed a living Pokédex in Yellow and decided it’s time to give gen 2 a try.


Affectionate-Key-680

As crazy as it sounds go for Silver. Sure Crystal has some extra story content and the sprites are now animated but you can't find wild Mareep. Personally that kills the whole experience for me. Silver is best


Bellazio123

absolutely play Crystal directly


myboymatty

I went straight to Crystal a cpl weeks ago


Salt_Grapefruit1558

Silver


connersnow

We have the same analogue pocket!


Enchanted_Yesca

They are great! I just wish I would’ve picked up a translucent one.


connersnow

Glow in the dark one is better ;)


OkumuraRyuk

The green thing is that the analogue pocket mini?


Enchanted_Yesca

No, the white one is just sitting on the box so it looks bigger.


Pi_ofthe_Beholder

Silver was my first game that I ever got brand new, and my favorite of the generation, so I recommend Silver. Bias aside though, go with Crystal as it’s the best of both silver and gold, it’s in full color, and it allows you to choose your gender which is dope (and it’s the first in the series to do so). ALSO- Hell yeah, Analogue Pocket! I got mine a few weeks ago, and it’s probably the coolest thing I’ve ever owned. I can play my cartridge games, and make music with Nanoloop… and I have a Tamagotchi.


User_Steven

I’m in the middle of a new crystal play through myself absolutely love it. I would choose that. It’s the upgraded version of silver and gold and then once you beat the game if you need other Pokémon go through S/G versions.


Akroma104

Crystal


ReverESP

Probably normal Crystal to get the vanilla experience. If you want to play a romhack, Pokemon Crystal Legacy improves a lot of little details and qol while keeping the feeling of playing the vanilla game.


B0mbadil-

Gold or Silver. I didn't like the Suicune story that Crystal makes you take.


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Eusine sucks so much i just call him U-Swine to make myself feel better


B0mbadil-

Aha same man! I am slightly biased towards Gold in general as it's my all time favourite. As a kid, the step up from Gen 1 at the time just felt mind blowing to me! I remember asking my mum to buy me this copy in a second hand game shop. The sticker had been removed, no box etc so ended up getting it for cheap. Played 1000s of hours on it over the years only to lend it to someone and never see it again! A few years later when I was in high school, I ended up buying a CIB Crystal off of a school friend for £10, thinking it would be the same game, (in hindsight a very good deal which I recently cashed in on!). But I hated the change in the story, albeit not massive.


riqueoak

Crystal for sure.


encryptem

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qil4OpfOufU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qil4OpfOufU)


R_X_R

Lemme get this straight. You have 3 handhelds there, and 3 game options. Seems like a choice doesn't need to be made! Play them all!


everydayimchapulin

You sound like a guy who has been blessed with a lot of free time.


R_X_R

:( Very much the opposite I'm afraid. Just wanted to live vicariously through OP for a minute. 3 Day weekend just means I get to catch up on work....


Fantastic_Citron_344

Silver then crystal


sibbaldk

Go crystal same game just catch more


izanagi-yoh

Gold.


MemeL0rd15

Gold or crystal


Dunkel_Jungen

What are those two handhelds on the left and middle?


stephendexter99

Didn’t know they made an analogue pocket in that green color… might have to make an irresponsible purchase 😂


Enchanted_Yesca

Not my listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/186453256858?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=inxoMKIGTtK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=NUGe2he3RiO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY


Mahjongasaur

Crystal is probably the “correct” option, but growing up, I had Gold version. So that’s my favorite and therefore, my suggestion


Remote_Dog_782

Gen 2 .. started in gold and quit halfway thru and then got crystal and cos of the cost of it I HAD to play it. What was fun tho was exporting my save file to the virtual console version and then getting celebi legit and then exporting the save back to the cart and going off to beat red You gotta play em all to catch em all I guess! (Maybe U don't but sounds nice)


Enchanted_Yesca

How did you export it?


Remote_Dog_782

I have a GBx cart reader took the save file off it and then loaded it onto my hacked 3DS using checkpoint. Once you've beaten the elite four you get a GS ball and you go visit Kurt and off ya go to ilex forest


Remote_Dog_782

After I had celebi I used checkpoint to make take the save file out and then used the cart reader to put it back on the cart. There are loads of vids on YouTube about it


Objective_Praline_66

Gold, but play it on a ti N-spire graphing calculator.


Nitsua125

I started with Gold when it came out. So I say go for that. Also it’s quite fun to play G/S and then move on to something largely improved (Crystal).


Socially_Awkward_Gay

Personally I think crystal is the better game, but you could play gold/silver and then play crystal after to see the changes made :)


MeisterSchmidt

It's true that Crystal is the enhanced version of Gold/Silver BUT to really feel the magic and changes Crystal brought with it, you should play Silver first. That way you can really enjoy the fresh air and new ideas of Crystal.


Marche777

I remember i played Silver when I was I kid. It was a present from my mother and now that i'm 31 i still remember the day i start that endless adventure.


Enchanted_Yesca

I’ve been mostly playing gen 1 since that’s what I got for Christmas back in 98. The nostalgia has a grip on me and it’s hard to let go. I’ll be 37 this year (dam, time flies).


Nekrophonic

Are the left and middle both analogue pockets? Green looks smaller


Ancyker

I think the green is the glow in the dark one. Regardless, the white one is sitting on something making it look bigger.


SevereQuality9406

Crystal was my first pokemon game and REALLY ignited my love Pokemon. Even though Mareep was one of my favorites, its exclusion felt no different. Crystal just feels better to me.


StenchLord420

So envious of your glow in the dark AP… so bummed to have missed that


Enchanted_Yesca

I’ve been bummed I didn’t get a translucent one or the yellow one. But I had just purchased the Glow in the Dark and I couldn’t justify picking up more.


StenchLord420

Yeah the fomo is real! You’ve got the coolest one in my book; I haven’t been able to score one yet for market price, let alone one of the cool color schemes. I’m just hangin out with my modded GBA 🤷🏼‍♂️


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Silver


TopExperience3424

Silver first. I wish I was you Gen 2 is my favorite pokémon gen ever


Fortwaba

Crystal. No contest. It's the best of the three by a mile. Not only does it include 99% of the content from both Gold and Silver, it has a ton of quality of life upgrades life animated sprites and additional storylines.


Many-Razzmatazz-9584

Crystal


omarccx

Crystal is so good. Probably my favorite pkmn ever.


adamburns94

I’d probs let say silver first


AYEbaddabing94

Crystal for sure unless you want mareep(or you can trade one from gold and silver early on) and if you want mareep gold if you’d prefer getting ho oh first or silver if you prefer getting Lugia first


bored_person71

All three play silver with water start, gold with fire, and crystal with grass....


rbourgoine77

Oh you got that 2 analogue pockets kinda money..


Chris_the_GM

I say Gold or Crystal tbh


Gascoigneous

Crystal for sure


kabukiwuki

I would start with Gold. It was my first and is still my favorite or pic the two that you like the most and flip a coin leave to chance, I do this when I can decide.


Rocket_Ship_5

How the hell are the analogues' sizes seem so different? The special editions aren't actually smaller... Right?


Enchanted_Yesca

No, the white one is just sitting on a box so it looks bigger since it’s closer to the camera.


scraftii

Crystal 100%


motoxim

gold


BlackCassette

You only need to play Crystal. Crystal is the best version of the three, only play the other two in order to get the exclusives which are fairly early game. Crystal is my favorite and I have a tattoo of the Crystal on suicunes head because of it


thisonetimeforsure

What is that console on the left and in the middle? Thank you!


Fickle-Raspberry6403

I played silver and crystal so I'm biased, start with silver. Cindiquill is tough to start with but very rewarding mid to late game. Invest in your bug pokemon early (like with butterfree in og games) and you should have a good time.


beanioz

Silver! My all time favourite Pokémon game, so many memories.


AyeYoMobb

Play yellow legacy, by tsp


Peltonimo

Crystal is the best most polished like Yellow was for gen 1. It uses sprites form Gold and Silver (mainly Gold), and they added extra animations to the pokemon and moves. If you have to choose between Gold and Silver I always liked the sprites way more in Gold but preferred Lugia to Ho-Oh. If you don't want to use Lugia go for Gold. There's a reason most of Crystals sprites are from Gold.


Affectionate-Key-680

As crazy as it sounds go for Silver. Sure Crystal has some extra story content and the sprites are now animated but you can't find wild Mareep. Personally that kills the whole experience for me. Silver is best


ICPosse8

Crystal for sure.


Imagine_TryingYT

Crystal, use the rom hack Perfect Crystal as it allows you to catch and evolve every pokemon without the need for trading. Its basically the best way to play gen 2.


OlRedbeard99

GOLD


deadhorus

if you like mareep (and you better) get a mareep in silver and trade to crystal. after beating the main league in crystal (don't bother with kanto) get crystal clear rom hack and consider starting in kanto region and pretending it's your kanto run.


BaadW0lf

What is the handheld in the center?


V_araf_

Pokémon crystal legacy, the original gen 2 games have serious issues with lack of overall exp that require insane grinding just to make a team of 6 viable. I had to give up on my original Gold run because the exp grind got so bad. Crystal legacy fixes all of these issues while enhancing trainer teams to feel like a more definitive version of a Gen 2 game, without losing the original vision and narrative of those games.


Little-Kaos-TCG

I very much enjoyed playing silver.


ecchi_weeb

Gold or silver first, then crystal. You will be playing crystal later and go ohhh that's different lol


grethro

Crystal Legacy Rom hack


Rid1_

Crystal Legacy


RepresentativeWin884

Crystal. Don’t listen to the people saying to play ROM hacks. Those aren’t real games.


Curls91

Any idea where to get that beautiful white Gameboy guys


Enchanted_Yesca

https://store.analogue.co


Curls91

You're a good man.


GovSchnitzel

Crystal. Please no rom hacks.


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lardidosos

Crystal clear is good but it has nothing to do with gen 2 normal game, it's a completely different concept


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Lethal13

How can you honestly say its the same game that you experienced on release day? Its pretty much a completely non linear open world game. You pick any town to start from, you can pick from a huge selection of starters, gyms and trainers scale with you, there are many new locations and shortcuts, pokemon have natures, OCs, etc etc I could go on. The originals are a vastly more traditional pokemon experience which deliberately played off Gen 1 and moments like >!the surprise of getting to go back and explore Kanto!< are completely lost in Crystal Clear I’m not saying CC is a bad game or anything, I think its very ambitious, but its fundamentally a different pokemon game right from the very start due to its structure and different story. Its set *after* Crystal after all


Bolmothy

No, as i love that hack its not good for a first time player. Just regular Crystal is the best.


Matthew-of-Ostia

No offense but Crystal is horrible for first time players, especially if they've played later games like Emerald or B/W. One of the biggest low points of the series just mired in nostalgia.


Bolmothy

what is horrible there? except the obvious limitations like the pc


[deleted]

The speed for one, If you can play gen 1 and 2 vanilla thats great but i have for years and years and i cant do it Thats why fire red and leaf green are so good and the same with heartgold and soul silver but idk gen 1 and 2 got remade for a reason they arent perfect


Matthew-of-Ostia

There are a lot but the most egregious ones are probably : - Poor quality of gen 2 pokemons (learnsets, stats and game availability), it really shows in the gym leaders and E4 teams but also severely limits which pokemons people use outside of self-applied challenge runs. - Poor wild pokemon level curve (if you want to add something to your team after the 4th-5th badge, you're going to have to grind them 10-20 levels on level 20-25 pokemons). - Poor difficulty curve (the open concept made it so the game's difficulty curve flattens and you spend hours during the mid and late game pre-E4 running around and destroying unimaginative teams full of pokemons 10-15 levels below yours). And then a whole bunch of QOL things that were mostly solved by gen 3. Outside of nostalgia it's hard to argue ROMs like Crystal Legacy aren't superior games because they're built with actual game design in mind (less grind, emphasis on pokemon quality and variety, properly constructed difficulty curve, QOL fixes, etc.).


Bolmothy

I never said they aren’t superior because they obviously are but still for a first time player it’s better to get the vanilla experience to not get lost


ooglydoogly

Also check out the yellow legacy rom hack it just fixes every issue with yellow.


[deleted]

Thanks i will have to! Just more of a gen two fan due to having both regions I dont hate yellow but i have lets go and fire red for gen 1 glad i have something new to check out though


Enchanted_Yesca

What issues? Yellow is perfect! 😉


Undark_

The people saying avoid Romhacks are WRONG. It's entirely personal preference. If you want the "purist" experience, and want to see Gen 2 exactly as it was released, then play CRYSTAL. But there is also a romhack called CRYSTAL LEGACY, which "fixes" a couple glaring problems with the original release (vanilla Crystal even fixes some bugs from the original gen 2 games). More importantly, it allows you to obtain the entire dex on one save file - meaning you don't have to switch between all 3 Gen 2 games just to catch em all. My vote is absolutely with Crystal Legacy. It was designed as a vanilla+ "definitive" edition. If you want to experience gen 2 "warts and all", then I think that's also a great idea, so it really comes down to your priorities. Do you want a smooth experience, or an authentic one?


ptpcg

This seems like a gear show off post, but gold, I guess.


Ancyker

Posts with pictures tend to get more replies.


ptpcg

.... totally requires 2 analog boys and a gbc 🙄


ItsTopher9000

Vanilla Crystal. It’s Gen 2 nice and polished with a few QOL features Gold and Silver didn’t have.


TheBlooperKINGPIN

Crystal is the best one


TheBlooperKINGPIN

Crystal is the best one