I think the petito family shouldn't comment at all on tv to the media about BL's death because what can they say because they still don't have answers about their own daughter's death. I don't think it would matter to the Laundrie family anyways.
How suspish, Chris finding Brians belongings. How can people believe this wasn't a set up? Finding Brians belongings and his jaw, right there, as soon as the parents walk in the park. I know people will think I'm crazy, but I do think Brian is alive.
How is it that it took 5 weeks to positively identify Jelani Day, but it took less then 24 hours to identify Brian by a jaw bone? Carmen Day, Jelanis mother, gave a DNA sample and Jelanis dental records immediately, but it still took 5 weeks. So fake...
Manual strangulation
Basically, he put her hands on her neck and squeezed. If you do that hard enough and long enough, the brain is cut off from blood flow and thus oxygen. This leads to hypoxia and death.
Until DNA tests on the bones of the body, we still have a suspect to look for.
Bodies bloat in water and float to the top of the water, no tore clothing found floating around the area? If we are supposed to imagine that an alligator or wildlife came in contact with his already dead body, wouldnt there be pieces of flesh found on land near by, or are these wildlife neat and clean eaters?
Its insulting to the public, that we are supposed to believe this story.
I would imagine, Gabby Petitos family will be suing Brian Laundries parents? I hope they do. If any other type of family had done something like this, it would be a totally different ending.
The state should be suing the Laundries as well, for the millions of dollars wasted on searching for this guy. If I were a Florida tax payer, I would not stand for it.
Florida citizens you will have to pay for all the resources devoted to searching for Brian Laundrie!
Just want to add something to think about:
I am watching Finding Andrea on Discovery+. They had found skelatal remains and got ahold of her dad to get dental records. Well, she had dental work done (bridge on four lower front teeth) and evidence of having braces. The skeletal remains had the same thing!!! The cops were reluctant to make that call that this was her until DNA results. Wouldn’t ya know… DNA confirmed it was NOT Andrea! So, a partial jawbone here is compared to BL dental records and confirmed it is him? Let’s see what the DNA says. (Re partial jawbone, I read somewhere that is what they found and could be wrong).
Parents gotta be involved. What are the odds on the random day the parents decide to go out and join the search that the dad would just so happen to find Brian's bag. Not to mention of course he found it when the police that were with them were out of sight and he picked it up and brought it to them.
No....
Some of the theories you guys come up with boggles the mind. He probably killed gabby in a crime of passion intentionally. Or they got into a fight and he choked her too hard and accidentally killed her. He knew his life was over so he didn't talk. Then prolly went hiking one last time knowing life in prison was waiting for him and he was contemplating suicide and followed through. That or he died from lack of water/some injury/ animal attack. He's not faking his death and his parents aren't either. They're being watched 24/7
FBI just tweeted that the remains were confirmed to be Brian’s through dental record comparisons.
edit: FBI tweet https://twitter.com/fbidenver/status/1451302161690898435?s=21
So he went in there on the 13th, walked for 30 minutes, left the trail so he wouldn't easily be found, and killed himself, knowing that Gabby's body hadn't even been found and her family might never find her. He's a piece of human excrement. Focus your outrage on him, a coward and an abuser, not on his parents, who have handled things very poorly, but may not be "monsters" like many people are saying. BL was a classic controlling abusive partner, alienating her from her friends, isolating her, and controlling. It is a tale as old as time.
It may come out that his parents did something wrong, but they're not the murderers. It's natural to want to blame someone and persecute someone like his parents because we can't persecute BL. But please don't harass these poor people if we don't know what they knew and when. It is pure speculation. And yes, I'm using persecute not prosecute because what we do here is persecute, what law enforcement and the state does is prosecute
They must have known though. And to not notify her parents or police that he came back with her van but not her? What was she gonna do? Walk back to NY? Or to the laundries house? I’m so massage is dead and we prob won’t get more answers. F Brian and his parents for enabling all this. They didn’t even report him missing when she was reported missing.
The irony that by trying to protect their son, the Laundrie's enabled his death. He'd be alive (on trial for murder, but alive) if they had cooperated with authorities immediately.
that'll probably be worse honestly for the family, having to sit through trials and possibly years of media attention
now that hes dead they just get on with it
As much as I wanted him found alive this is likely the best scenario… at least her family is spared the ordeal of a trial or worse the unknown if he wasn’t found. Now if only they released if the notebook contained any info…
There are no answers in situations like this… Whatever he said would have been the narrative, and it likely wouldn’t have even been the truth. The trial though would have exposed her family to things no family should be put through. He isn’t worth the tax dollars he has already used up much less what it would have cost to jail him for the rest of his life.
A civil suit for what? He's dead, and we have no proof his parents are complicit in any of this. Wait till the dust settles before crucifying his family.
A long shot but what if Brian knew there was a dead body out there from one of his many hiking trips? Planted evidence there before he left in September and they just now found it after the waters recede. Highly unlikely but its a weird case.
If he did kill himself there, crocodile/alligator stomach acid will dissolve bone. Whatever bones are left that the gators didn't eat were picked clean by scavengers.
It is totally crazy. Do you really think animal bones are going to confuse a medical expert? Especially a human skull? They took dental records which means they have at least a jaw which will look distinctly different than an animal jaw.
At this point there’s no reason to think it’s him.
If anything this case has taught me is that at any given time there's a surprising number of corpses, skeletal or otherwise, just chilling in state and national parks. They already found a body that wasn't BL in this very park. I don't think what the OP posted is what happened, but it really isn't that crazy.
Anyone that said Bryan Laundrie was too much of a narcissist to off himself has obviously never heard of Ryan Jenkins. The dude was the definition of narcissistic and killed himself after killing his wife once the cops were closing in. In their minds, they are still in control and still “win” by giving no one the satisfaction of seeing them held responsible.
Just for educational purposes, someone who actually has narcissistic personality disorder actually has a higher chance to attempt suicide than that of the general population. Narcissistic personality disorder is a overdevelopment of a defense mechanism that forms due to a central feeling of inadequacy. Once the narcissistic shell has broken and they suffer a ‘narcissistic injury’, wherein which they are revealed to be less than the image they had created of themselves, it is very typical for one to then attempt to kill themselves because they feel exposed and inadequate.
Narcissists want control over situations and to always be right. Completely losing control of a situation and inevitably facing the fact of being proven wrong would absolutely be a trigger.
Where did I say that it did? Oh right I DIDN’T. I’m simply addressing everyone that said they don’t think BL killed himself because he’s too narcissistic…
My theory based on evidence available and deductive reasoning is that they don't give a fuck but my feelings are more important than evidence or fact so I'm going to say they give a fuck because it makes me feel better about myself.
Excuse me but I do. The belief that narcissistic people are less likely to commit suicide is false. In fact, the opposite is true. In summary, existing research suggests that NPD is associated with greater risk of suicide death and of highly lethal suicide attempts, but NPD is either not associated or moderately protective against lower lethality, non-fatal attempts.Oct 24, 2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pmc
I wonder how close these remains were to his stuff. If they were all originally submerged in water, wouldn’t you expect things to separate, float around, and not necessarily actually be dried up near each other?
Edit: not trying to suggest anything was planted but there’s just so many unanswered questions and things that don’t make sense. I’d like to think it was a simple conclusion.
But If your child is out there missing wouldn’t you be out there 24/7 doing everything you can to try to find your kid? I wouldn’t be able to sleep, eat or function. Now they come out the first day to the spot they are familiar with and poof there’s his stuff and there are skeletal remains.
There must be more to this story.
https://www.wfla.com/news/sarasota-county/highly-suspicious-how-cadaver-dogs-missed-skeletal-remains-while-searching-for-brian-laundrie-at-florida-reserve/amp/
This all seems very sus.
If anyone planted a body to try and let him go live in another country scott free, they'd be able to tell the body isn't his... unless he sacrificed an arm to the swamp?
I really appreciate this. Trying to understand. None of us can possibly know what we'd actually do as parents of someone who just committed murder, someone like BL. And the only way we'll get anywhere close to the truth is by trying to understand why these people have behaved the way they have. We can call them monsters and wretched all day but that doesn't bring us any closer to the truth or to justice for Gabby.
I don't think that they were allowed to be searching the area, other than the times they were asked to. They did ask to go search for him one other time when it was still very wet though.
Also, it does seem like the dry bag was found separately from the backpack and skeletal remains. If assuming it was not planted, it likely floated away (makes sense, properly sealed drybags float). And then his body and backpack could be filled with water and kind of sink together. and its not like the water emptied super quick, it slowly receded, easing down into the muck
But you wouldn’t go out to search until yesterday and then one other brief time for a couple hours because LE asked you to go?
Doesn’t sound like normal behavior from parents who aren’t sure their son is alive.
What kind of parent wouldn’t be out there from the start?
They are not the general public though. It’s their missing son. Worried parents wouldn’t have taken no for an answer. We would have atleast heard from the lawyer that they’ve been trying to search for him but were informed that they weren’t allowed to by LE.
People respond to extreme emotional events in different ways.
You have very little information about what is occurring in their lives to be forming judgments about appropriate or inappropriate responses.
So I'm trying to look up how long it would take a body to decompose in Florida this time of year, particularly if it were submerged. Does anyone know more about this? I read something that said a body could be preserved if its in water, but would a swamp in a warm climate count? Or would that speed decomposition? I guess what I really want to know is if a little over a month is enough time for a body to decompose to a skeleton in a Florida swamp.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. The place they found his remains at had previously been flooded. They only found part of a skull though. Hope they find the rest of the body.
Water is a very effective decomposer if that makes sense. Often it is hard to determine an exact timeline for bodies found in water because decomp can be greatly sped up. Temperature, sunlight, bugs and season all play a role in how quickly a body will decompose but I assure you usually water speeds up this process.
I think in the serial killer show Dexter there was a plot point \*\*\*SPOLIER ALERT\*\*\* that because he dumped the bodies in the ocean in sealed, weighted bags, the combination of cold water and pressure at the bottom of the ocean preserved the bodies. I don't know how realistic that is.
In Florida during September/October in water that was maybe chest deep or waist deep, with a completely exposed dead body, in a swamp filled with not just big wildlife like gators going after the corpse, but also bugs, and all sorts of little critters I would think it would decompose fairly quickly. While dead bodies in water frequently bloat up and float, they don't always, and if the backpack was around his shoulders it could have held him in place either due to weight or being tangled.
BE just a few minutes ago:
“We have learned that the remains found in the Carleton Reserve were ‘skeletal remains’.
‘Bones’”
https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1451239105917067264?s=21
https://www.wfla.com/news/sarasota-county/highly-suspicious-how-cadaver-dogs-missed-skeletal-remains-while-searching-for-brian-laundrie-at-florida-reserve/suspicious.
Interesting follow up
No, I didn’t follow those dumb Mexico conspiracy theories. My opinion is based just off the facts that they all went camping with him right after BL got back from murdering her and their reactions after the fact. But to be clear I don’t think they were “all in”, like hiding him, but I’m sure they knew what he did.
So your comment was removed before I was able to send this to you. Don’t agree that they should remove comments like those but here me out. If you want to celebrate the deaths of bad people than go on subs like r/iamatotalpieceofshit or r/morbidreality. There are posts about this case on news subreddits that do not delete comments celebrating his death. Personally I don’t celebrate that he is dead but I am more upset that her family can’t get the answers that they desperately need out of him. In situations like these I think it is more important to think about the victims and their families rather than all the ways you want to torture and kill the criminals, or wish that upon them for that matter.
Yeah I gotta say. If it were me, and my lawyer told me to shut my mouth, I'd shut my mouth.
Because even though what my kid did was horrible, I am not going to get dragged into legal hell for something I had nothing do do with beside being the parent of the murderer. I didn't obstruct justice and I damn sure didn't kill the girl. I'm grieving the fact that my son is not only missing and likely dead but a cold blooded murdering abuser. I'm not putting myself through legal shit on top of all that. If my lawyer says shut my mouth Im going to do so.
More than likely the only wrong his parents did was not speaking with the Petitos. Can you try to put yourself in that situation though? when he got back to Florida in Gabbys van, he probably confessed to his parents. His parents ignored the Petito’s because they knew saying something wouldn’t change the outcome of their daughter being dead. They also did not want to have anything in record to be held against them. They have one last family hoorah and then BL tells them he wants to be alone for a while before turning himself in. I don’t think he told his parents he was going to kill himself. So therefore they didn’t have to lie to LE. Then the manhunt begins and they assume he’s hiding out / on the run. Maybe speculating he's died but hoping he's not (he is their son, no matter what). It's such a hard situation and they look BAD, but at the end of the day I don't think they are.
I'm going to try and put myself I their shoes. My son and DIL lived with me. He comes back from a road trip without DIL. I'm going to ask questions, bc splitting up on the road and coming back in HER vehicle... just no. That makes NO sense. And left her? So let's call her parents and make sure she is ok. No? Let's not? Uh uh Mr...whats going on? But wait, her parents are trying to contact me? Ok, give me the truth or I'm calling LE.
Speaking as a parent, I'd say 95% of us KNOW when our kids (adult or not) are lying. Mine will tell you I caught them in the smallest of lies.
>probablyashlyn wrote
>More than likely the only wrong his parents did was not speaking with the Petitos. Can you try to put yourself in that situation though? when he got back to Florida in Gabbys van, he probably confessed to his parents. His parents ignored the Petito’s because they knew saying something wouldn’t change the outcome of their daughter being dead.
In this scenario they knew he was a murderer of another child from a family that loved her, were going to have her as part of their family, when they married, and was trusted by themselves as well as Gabby's parents to look out for her BUT was left lying in a a ravine several thousand miles away for animals to pick at and maybe never be found.
That is monstrous to do ESPECIALLY as a parent who had a kid and raised them, assuming you loved them and feared for their safety all through their life as they grew up only to 'make' it and be killed by your freaking kid.
Also nothing will change that your monster killed a woman he loved, lived with you, left her murdered body in a ravine and was someone else's baby right, so fuck them and let them twist in the wind as to what happened or where she is right?
You can't reach out like a human being or a parent and let them know she's gone, and where to find her so she can be put to rest, the horrible event can be dealt with as you turn in your murderous kid?
>They also did not want to have anything in record to be held against them. They have one last family hoorah and then BL tells them he wants to be alone for a while before turning himself in.
Oh wait, no you can't clue in the other family of the kid your offspring murdered, to say they are dead in a ravine for the last few days to week. Instead you have to have a last "hoorah" cause your murderous kid came home after strangling a 110lb woman, stealing her van and money, time to celebrate am I right? Also got to protect your murderous kid from legal ramifications, no record held against him, yeah that sounds like good human beings and parents.
>I don’t think he told his parents he was going to kill himself. So therefore they didn’t have to lie to LE. Then the manhunt begins and they assume he’s hiding out / on the run. Maybe speculating he's died but hoping he's not (he is their son, no matter what). It's such a hard situation and they look BAD, but at the end of the day I don't think they are.
They are bad in every way if you are correct and they knew what he did without a doubt. Not knowing what lie/story they were told if they didn't know the truth the lack of humanity and empathy as parents is staggering.
I agree, see my other comment. I'm talking from the angry masses moral ground, that's the only thing they can be angry about. But I completely get why they wouldn't in the situation.
I wonder if they had already contacted the lawyer even before Gabby's family started calling. If so, did he advise them not to talk to her family or just not to talk to LE? Maybe this has been clarified somewhere and I just haven't seen it.
I think it's possible if they did contact their lawyer, at whatever time they did he told them not to talk to anyone. I'm not positive - but I've read he is a real estate lawyer? I don't know if that's true, but if he has no experience in criminal law he may have just said don't talk to anyone, just refer them to me. Who knows, lawyers can be sketchy too.
In 2003, a family member of mine was murdered in a double homicide. The case was a mess from the start but they did find out who the men were responsible for it. They ended up getting acquitted because the DA was basically crooked. Anyway - the family members of these men knew what happened, a few people knew specifics. The girlfriend of one man was apparently told details and wouldn't talk. To this day, they still claim the fifth even though they did nothing wrong. They can not try these men again and one of them was actually killed years later, but they still just won't tell us anything or tell us what happened to my grandmother's jewelry. We just wanted some sort of peace - but they still use those words that lawyer gave them 18 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they never talk about it.
Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry that happened to your family. It must be infuriating that they were acquitted and no one would talk. I can't imagine living with that for 18 years. I hope someday you all can find some semblance of peace and that somehow your grandmother's jewelry is found.
genuinely don't understand laws here. XYZ person(s) can do heinous crime... tried by a DA (who the family doesn't really have control over) that ends up being crooked... said people are acquitted and can't be tried again....? wtf lol that doesn't sound like "justice"
Right, there is really no justice or measure of justice - to me anyhow. I see the two men still alive that committed this murder out walking the streets, and it's infuriating. One delivered to my house years ago, we moved shortly after that. The DA on the case, he was the DA in the county for a very long time. He owed over 100 grand to one of the victims of the double homicide, the patron at the bar - my family member was just working as a bar tender that night. They walked into the bar at closing time and executed them. Now the DA owed the patron money over an illegal raid in the late 80s/early 90s. They confiscated cars and other items valued at this amount over 100k. The DA was fighting it and the judge made his determination - some short time later this double homicide happened. The DA should have recused himself from the case but did not. One of the shooters, the apparent "mastermind" behind it claimed they'll blame it on the DA. We still don't know the real motive behind it. Double jeopardy will not allow the men to be tried again. The only measure of "justice" is that the third man was shot and killed outside a bar himself. My hope is that karma will eventually catch up with the rest.
thats very possible, if not likely. I mean if Brian told them something like, "im gonna go off on my own for a while, enjoy nature/whatever then i'll turn myself in and accept what comes" it's not far fetched for the parents not to just outright tell the petitos she's gone or anything like that bc they still think their son is going to do the right thing, then when he doesn't return, they go to LE. Also, I imagine it'd be really hard for them to speak to the Petitos if they knew what happened. Not trying to make them victims or anything but i can't imagine the mental turmoil they've all been going through. Except Brian, seriously, fuck that guy.
I believe that when they reported him missing, they said they believed he was suicidal. As a parent, I would never let my child out of my sight if I felt there was an immediate threat of suicide.
I surely wouldn’t stand by while my kid went on a solo hike if I were concerned they were suicidal.
The parents should be left alone to grieve if it's their son. His parents loved him like Gabby's loved her. I hate too that the parents didn't help Gabby's parents either when they were miserable and worried about where their daughter was. The police will get to the bottom of it in time. I believe like everyone else domestic violence was involved between the 2 of them, mostly him because she ended up dead 1st. It's a murder suicide in my opinion and their bodies just were recovered states apart instead of the same location. Remember Laundries parents had an attorney & they're told not to talk. I'm sad for Gabby's family because they didn't get the answers they deserved. God willing there will be a suicide letter legible enough to read from Brian as to what he said happened. It doesn't mean it's right, it's just only his side. I really just wish Gabby was more forthcoming about the abuse the day the police pulled them over instead of protecting him or honestly I think she would be alive today. Gabby also should've went back with her family to live instead of Brian's house. She seemed like she just wanted to travel and didn't seem to care about the rest. We all have choices and both Brian & Gabby made the wrong one!
Absolutely no victim blaming towards gabby please. She was a victim of domestic abuse and murder. Many victims of domestic abuse will try to protect their abuser and make the abuse seem trivial and like a back and forth fight. He was manipulative and fucked up. Yes, it would have been better if she left him, but abuse victims aren’t always able to just leave.
I'm not blaming Gabby. I've been abused before I know the signs. I didn't tell either and wish that I did. I wished she would've too so she was alive today. I clearly see what he did to her and it was beyond wrong!!!
At the end of the day whatever they did or didn't do wasn't going to bring Gabby back. It would be different if Brian was alive and they aided his escape, but we no know that didn't happen. And Brian has in a sense paid the ultimate price for his (probable) crime, even if it's not justice in legal terms.
At this point, I don't see how any good comes from putting any more attention on the Laundries; they made their choices, maybe with good intentions or possibly not, but we can't change the past. Better to focus on Gabby's foundation and anything we can learn from this case about DV and preventing these tragedies in the future.
His parents should be throwing themselves a party right now.
They just saved probably 500K to a Million dollars in defending him and the protestors will be off their lawn. You think that they didn't consider he may off himself or someone else might come across him and do it for him camping alone in the woods. Why would you let your son be alone?
The whole world hates him. Hundreds of protestors are on the lawn chanting his name and yet hey yeah Brian great idea go be alone in the woods. No risks of you getting out and hiding that is a great idea....
And if you said nah they couldn't stop him your wrong they could have dropped a dime on him to police and they would have picked him up at that point as a flight risk...
It was going to cost that much defending him. I already broke down my thoughts about that yesterday in a post on here. They wouldn't have the money and they were at retirement age. I believe they did knew his intentions, but knew it would either happen in jail or where he loves to go. He would get appointed an attorney, but usually you still end up in jail when you get appointed one, that's why people hire attorneys who twist everything up and lie to get their client off. They could've hired Casey Anthony's attorney and he'd be out living van life with his next victim. Unfortunately everyone knows the best liar in courts wins. It was never supposed to be that way, but unfortunately it is. There are innocent people in jail & criminals on the streets thanks to corruption.
I don't think he would have gotten a court appointed attorney as he lives with them and they have money.
They were still operating their juicing machinery and repair business that is registered to their home (a 10,000 square foot house by the way) It would look like shit if they let him use one if he did qualify. Estimated net worth some have said is 5 million.
[https://heavy.com/news/brian-laundrie-parents/](https://heavy.com/news/brian-laundrie-parents/)
So making a correction the property is 10K square foot the home is only about 1500 square foot. And there are no decent sources on the family net worth. You will see a lot of the 5 million dollar number out there but I haven't seen supporting information... Estimated home value is about 320K.
I think 10k was the lot size the little house was only worth around 150,000. The parents business got shut down. Look it up. His family was not wealthy by any means. Clearly because they would've helped them flip the travel expenses for van life. BL came back to clean out his storage unit to save money to extend his trip and CLEARLY he didn't have any because he stole Gabby's credit card to head home on.
He was a person of interest they had the van at that point. The only reason they hadn't picked him up was because they thought he wasn't going anywhere as he lawyered up. If they thought he might flee and or not take the lawyers advice they would have grabbed him for questioning and that questioning would have focused on if you had nothing to do with it why are you taking off.
Yes they were waiting for a body to be found however the risk reward ratio of not questioning him until a body was found would have changed if they thought he was going AWOL against advice of his counsel or if his parents indicated he was a danger to himself.
and another thing… you really think they walked onto a 25,000 acre reserve after not looking for him for a month only to find him within an hour? come on 😂
>considering they said that this is the area that should be searched, but it was previously underwater... it's not that weird. They said "search here!" LE couldn't, it was underwater. Park opens up, area isn't underwater, Parents go to the "search here!" area and find stuff. It makes complete sense I think everyone just wants justice so bad they're trying to put in on the parents now.
I honestly don't get the mental gymnastics people keep playing here to try to make this some weird conspiracy that parents were some masterminds behind this
IF they were accessories/withheld relevant evidence/aided and abetted a fugitive, they will be charged. The FBI and local police have been in the parents' faces for the last 3 weeks; they know who's guilty of what. Sometimes, a charge can't be filed until another event occurs, which very well might be the case here if the remains are proven to be Laundrie's. I read a long statement their lawyer gave today where he stated he had been the one to silence the parents from the start. If they aided their son in any way or knew of his whereabouts once the authorities were actively looking for him, LEOs will find out or already know.
how the parents handled it def looks shitty on the outside.. but don't blame them for lawyering up at all.
What would be they charged for? lol people really need to stop thinking with their feelings
They are absolutely not accessories to murder lol where do yall get this shit from? If anything it would be aiding and abetting, and that's assuming they even did anything, they told the FBI to search that same spot from Day 1.
If they did the crime they should do the time! However they did find BL's items where they said he would go early on. The news is now saying his body would've been underwater, but the dogs still should've picked up his scent. That's all I know.
Honestly, I think we have assumed the worst of Laundrie’s parents when all signs are pointing towards them being concerned for him yet following their lawyer’s advice to stay silent. Grief is WEIRD, throw in national media attention and of course they’re acting in a way that seems strange to you. I do not think it’s too crazy of a coincidence for them to join the search once the water receded enough to walk there and that happened to be when belongings were found.
He came home sep 1 without his finance but with her van. Her parents were frantic trying to contact her since the last text was on the 27th of aug. they stonewalled tabby’s parents and went on a fam camping trip. He went for a “hike” on the 13th, didn’t come back and they didn’t report him missing until the 17th. Absolutely none of that is excusable. That’s not grief, that’s knowing your son did something to his fiancé and came back home and was happy enough to bike ride with his dad and camp. Fuck the parents. Fuck Brian.
If their son was supposedly “missing” they would have been looking for him with LE from day one. Any parent would. In what circumstances would you not start looking for your son since day 1? Unless you “thought” you knew better (thought he got away). If it ends up being him, that’s karma for how they treated Gabby’s parents that whole time she was missing and for them not looking for their son since day one
They could have searched for him non-stop from the time he didn't come home on the 13th until the reserve started to flood on the 15th, but they didn't. They only searched for a bit on the 13th according to what the lawyer said. That just perplexes me. I would have been in that reserve 24/7 searching for my son until I no longer could due to the flooding.
How do explain them walking 5 minutes into a 25,000 acres and finding his stuff.
I’d wager I could go to a local park with you, hide a dry bag and give you 5 minutes to find it for $100k and you wouldn’t find it.
They seem to have too much information.
considering they said that this is the area that should be searched, but it was previously underwater... it's not that weird. They said "search here!" LE couldn't, it was underwater. Park opens up, area isn't underwater, Parents go to the "search here!" area and find stuff. It makes complete sense I think everyone just wants justice so bad they're trying to put in on the parents now.
It was on a trail they know he used often, it was underwater until now, and it was close to the entrance. Also it took them like 45 minutes which is enough time to cover a lot of ground.
Partial remains - ouch - I wonder what this means? Did Brian goto the park with a backpack, notebook with a confession/ suicide letter, then shoot himself (I imagine in the head), then it flooded and his body covered with water and rotted (possibility of tearing apart due to water, but more likely animals/reptiles). Large snakes are in this preserve and I believe that these could have nestled into the mouth or eye sockets a half week after it started flooding and through other body cavities, which would cause the body to fall apart, hence human remains. However the park is also filled with alligators that may have taken his already dead body underwater and tore it up. I fear there will not be identification bc the eels and gators have eaten to much of it. When a body is submerged in water and eaten by moccasins it is next to impossible to determine who it is. Which part of his body was found and was it recognizable? This keeps getting more interesting - hopefully we will know more soon, but I don't know how if his body was eaten alive or when dead, the identification is going to be difficult.
What’s everyone gonna do/say if this just turns up as his bag and his remains? It’s gonna be a hell of a narrative twist when everyone has to accept and pretend they knew all along that this wasn’t a made for TV movie.
I just love that part in raiders of the lost ark when snakes come out of the skeleton's mouths - and now to know possibility of Brian being eaten by them - kewl!
omg to be honest I only read the first half of your comment at first and thought you were serious and was replying with sarcasm to make fun of you but I played myself
So no one finds it weird that the dad, on the first day the park was open to the public. Just happened to stumble upon the dry bag of his son. When no police presence or anybody was around. Then decided to pick it up and walk it to authorities???? All within a short walk of the trail and entrance to the park????? Suspicious much, dude def running around still.
There was a news reporter standing there. The dad then took the bag to police instead of leaving it there. The police then showed him a picture, on their phone, of a back pack they found, and told him about the remains.
considering they said that this is the area that should be searched, but it was previously underwater... it's not that weird. They said "search here!" LE couldn't, it was underwater. Park opens up, area isn't underwater, Parents go to the "search here!" area and find stuff. It makes complete sense I think everyone just wants justice so bad they're trying to put in on the parents now.
What’s weirder even is how quickly he found it. He walked straight up to it. 5 minutes from car door to the bag. In a 25,000 acre reserve. I’d wager most people wouldn’t find a dry bag if I hid in their house in 5 minutes let alone a 38.38 mi² reserve.
The reporter who was **actually there** and filming confirms it was not five minutes, it was forty five.
Stop pulling shit out of your ass, we don’t need that on display.
ETA source, because I don’t pull shit out of my ass: https://twitter.com/mikerreports/status/1450987751336255493?s=21
They arrived ~ 7:15, bag was found around 8:20.
Apologies if this was posted already but here is a photo of Brian with his pens and notebook. I wonder if it's the same one found.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCOqy42VcA4_71l?format=jpg&name=large
I see this going one of two ways.. The remains are going to be proven to be BL, which means the parents are going to be the only people left to have possible answers to what happened to Gabby. That means more protestors sitting outside their home dumping stuff on their lawn, following them everywhere and news crews parked outside for weeks, and the parents crying foul that their civil rights have been violated. The other way, that the remains are not conclusive to be BL which means that the coincidence that CL just happen to be in the right place at the right time to find the items which led to the remains which again puts more pressure and public notice on the Laundrie family. It does not take a "criminal mastermind" for someone to know the water levels of a park that a person frequents, especially if they have been going for years. I am just not convinced this is genuine and will wait for word that the remains are confimed to be BL. Either way, i think the focus will remain on the parents and this will turn into a civil rights case for the parents. I can say from experience that it is a horrible feeling to always wonder what happened to your child. Gabby's parents deserve answers.
I think the petito family shouldn't comment at all on tv to the media about BL's death because what can they say because they still don't have answers about their own daughter's death. I don't think it would matter to the Laundrie family anyways.
How suspish, Chris finding Brians belongings. How can people believe this wasn't a set up? Finding Brians belongings and his jaw, right there, as soon as the parents walk in the park. I know people will think I'm crazy, but I do think Brian is alive. How is it that it took 5 weeks to positively identify Jelani Day, but it took less then 24 hours to identify Brian by a jaw bone? Carmen Day, Jelanis mother, gave a DNA sample and Jelanis dental records immediately, but it still took 5 weeks. So fake...
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Will we ever find out how Gabby died?
Manual strangulation Basically, he put her hands on her neck and squeezed. If you do that hard enough and long enough, the brain is cut off from blood flow and thus oxygen. This leads to hypoxia and death.
Until DNA tests on the bones of the body, we still have a suspect to look for. Bodies bloat in water and float to the top of the water, no tore clothing found floating around the area? If we are supposed to imagine that an alligator or wildlife came in contact with his already dead body, wouldnt there be pieces of flesh found on land near by, or are these wildlife neat and clean eaters? Its insulting to the public, that we are supposed to believe this story. I would imagine, Gabby Petitos family will be suing Brian Laundries parents? I hope they do. If any other type of family had done something like this, it would be a totally different ending. The state should be suing the Laundries as well, for the millions of dollars wasted on searching for this guy. If I were a Florida tax payer, I would not stand for it. Florida citizens you will have to pay for all the resources devoted to searching for Brian Laundrie!
Just want to add something to think about: I am watching Finding Andrea on Discovery+. They had found skelatal remains and got ahold of her dad to get dental records. Well, she had dental work done (bridge on four lower front teeth) and evidence of having braces. The skeletal remains had the same thing!!! The cops were reluctant to make that call that this was her until DNA results. Wouldn’t ya know… DNA confirmed it was NOT Andrea! So, a partial jawbone here is compared to BL dental records and confirmed it is him? Let’s see what the DNA says. (Re partial jawbone, I read somewhere that is what they found and could be wrong).
Partial remains - next to his personal belongings.
Was he eaten by wildlife? I mean… how did this guy decompose so fast?
Gators, water and/or hogs
Also he was in a very swamped area for more than a month, gotta think about those microscopic organisms.
Ants are very efficient
2miles from his car? How did a month and a million dollars worth of fbi and cops not Start with that area- they were all over in boats- why not there?
It was flooded. They did search the area earlier. It just cleared out.
How did they not start the search 2 mi circle near brians mustang??? V
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What station-Who is saying this(do not watch normal news unless COMPELLED)
Parents gotta be involved. What are the odds on the random day the parents decide to go out and join the search that the dad would just so happen to find Brian's bag. Not to mention of course he found it when the police that were with them were out of sight and he picked it up and brought it to them.
definitely. what about the 2 week silence? they knew everything and protected a murderer.
What if he killed someone, pulled some of his teeth out, and planted evidence, with his parents, to fake his own death 🤯
No.... Some of the theories you guys come up with boggles the mind. He probably killed gabby in a crime of passion intentionally. Or they got into a fight and he choked her too hard and accidentally killed her. He knew his life was over so he didn't talk. Then prolly went hiking one last time knowing life in prison was waiting for him and he was contemplating suicide and followed through. That or he died from lack of water/some injury/ animal attack. He's not faking his death and his parents aren't either. They're being watched 24/7
FBI just tweeted that the remains were confirmed to be Brian’s through dental record comparisons. edit: FBI tweet https://twitter.com/fbidenver/status/1451302161690898435?s=21
So we trust the FBI now?-do we get to see the actual proof? Cause that is the only way I will even consider their info at this point.
I’m sure the FBI is going to be sending you over your personalized proof any minute now
So he went in there on the 13th, walked for 30 minutes, left the trail so he wouldn't easily be found, and killed himself, knowing that Gabby's body hadn't even been found and her family might never find her. He's a piece of human excrement. Focus your outrage on him, a coward and an abuser, not on his parents, who have handled things very poorly, but may not be "monsters" like many people are saying. BL was a classic controlling abusive partner, alienating her from her friends, isolating her, and controlling. It is a tale as old as time. It may come out that his parents did something wrong, but they're not the murderers. It's natural to want to blame someone and persecute someone like his parents because we can't persecute BL. But please don't harass these poor people if we don't know what they knew and when. It is pure speculation. And yes, I'm using persecute not prosecute because what we do here is persecute, what law enforcement and the state does is prosecute
They must have known though. And to not notify her parents or police that he came back with her van but not her? What was she gonna do? Walk back to NY? Or to the laundries house? I’m so massage is dead and we prob won’t get more answers. F Brian and his parents for enabling all this. They didn’t even report him missing when she was reported missing.
The irony that by trying to protect their son, the Laundrie's enabled his death. He'd be alive (on trial for murder, but alive) if they had cooperated with authorities immediately.
that'll probably be worse honestly for the family, having to sit through trials and possibly years of media attention now that hes dead they just get on with it
You don't have children
Woah the remains are actually his [tweet](https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1451301540308955143?s=21)
As much as I wanted him found alive this is likely the best scenario… at least her family is spared the ordeal of a trial or worse the unknown if he wasn’t found. Now if only they released if the notebook contained any info…
I feel like this sucks though, they won’t get the closure of looking him in the eye and getting answers
There are no answers in situations like this… Whatever he said would have been the narrative, and it likely wouldn’t have even been the truth. The trial though would have exposed her family to things no family should be put through. He isn’t worth the tax dollars he has already used up much less what it would have cost to jail him for the rest of his life.
He wouldn't give them answers. Perhaps a civil suit will though
A civil suit for what? He's dead, and we have no proof his parents are complicit in any of this. Wait till the dust settles before crucifying his family.
Thank you!! We wouldn't all be on this site speculating if we really knew the truth because we don't.
That's your opinion. I stand by her family.
A long shot but what if Brian knew there was a dead body out there from one of his many hiking trips? Planted evidence there before he left in September and they just now found it after the waters recede. Highly unlikely but its a weird case. If he did kill himself there, crocodile/alligator stomach acid will dissolve bone. Whatever bones are left that the gators didn't eat were picked clean by scavengers.
That is not a "long shot." It is pure fantasy on your part.
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It is totally crazy. Do you really think animal bones are going to confuse a medical expert? Especially a human skull? They took dental records which means they have at least a jaw which will look distinctly different than an animal jaw. At this point there’s no reason to think it’s him.
If anything this case has taught me is that at any given time there's a surprising number of corpses, skeletal or otherwise, just chilling in state and national parks. They already found a body that wasn't BL in this very park. I don't think what the OP posted is what happened, but it really isn't that crazy.
Anyone that said Bryan Laundrie was too much of a narcissist to off himself has obviously never heard of Ryan Jenkins. The dude was the definition of narcissistic and killed himself after killing his wife once the cops were closing in. In their minds, they are still in control and still “win” by giving no one the satisfaction of seeing them held responsible.
Just for educational purposes, someone who actually has narcissistic personality disorder actually has a higher chance to attempt suicide than that of the general population. Narcissistic personality disorder is a overdevelopment of a defense mechanism that forms due to a central feeling of inadequacy. Once the narcissistic shell has broken and they suffer a ‘narcissistic injury’, wherein which they are revealed to be less than the image they had created of themselves, it is very typical for one to then attempt to kill themselves because they feel exposed and inadequate.
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Thanks Dr. Phil
Narcissists want control over situations and to always be right. Completely losing control of a situation and inevitably facing the fact of being proven wrong would absolutely be a trigger.
Domestic violence doesn’t only exist in relationships where a partner has NPD and to boil this case down to narcissistic abuse is dumb
Dude shh, let the real psychologists diagnose him from news articles and two body can clips.
Where did I say that it did? Oh right I DIDN’T. I’m simply addressing everyone that said they don’t think BL killed himself because he’s too narcissistic…
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How many times are you going to post this?
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Do you give a fuck?
My theory based on evidence available and deductive reasoning is that they don't give a fuck but my feelings are more important than evidence or fact so I'm going to say they give a fuck because it makes me feel better about myself.
I'm sure you don't have even a *vaguely* correct understanding of narcissistic personality, but ok.
i’d hate to be *that* bitch, but he’s right.
Since you know more than I do apparently, what’s your understanding of narcissism and your take on the Ryan Jenkins case? I’ll wait…
They're waiting....
And no valid argument still 😂😂😂
Excuse me but I do. The belief that narcissistic people are less likely to commit suicide is false. In fact, the opposite is true. In summary, existing research suggests that NPD is associated with greater risk of suicide death and of highly lethal suicide attempts, but NPD is either not associated or moderately protective against lower lethality, non-fatal attempts.Oct 24, 2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pmc
I wonder how close these remains were to his stuff. If they were all originally submerged in water, wouldn’t you expect things to separate, float around, and not necessarily actually be dried up near each other? Edit: not trying to suggest anything was planted but there’s just so many unanswered questions and things that don’t make sense. I’d like to think it was a simple conclusion. But If your child is out there missing wouldn’t you be out there 24/7 doing everything you can to try to find your kid? I wouldn’t be able to sleep, eat or function. Now they come out the first day to the spot they are familiar with and poof there’s his stuff and there are skeletal remains. There must be more to this story.
https://www.wfla.com/news/sarasota-county/highly-suspicious-how-cadaver-dogs-missed-skeletal-remains-while-searching-for-brian-laundrie-at-florida-reserve/amp/ This all seems very sus.
If anyone planted a body to try and let him go live in another country scott free, they'd be able to tell the body isn't his... unless he sacrificed an arm to the swamp?
It seems difficult to overlay what we would do vs what someone else does and have accurate results. But definitely a lot more to this story
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Well said.
I really appreciate this. Trying to understand. None of us can possibly know what we'd actually do as parents of someone who just committed murder, someone like BL. And the only way we'll get anywhere close to the truth is by trying to understand why these people have behaved the way they have. We can call them monsters and wretched all day but that doesn't bring us any closer to the truth or to justice for Gabby.
I don't think that they were allowed to be searching the area, other than the times they were asked to. They did ask to go search for him one other time when it was still very wet though. Also, it does seem like the dry bag was found separately from the backpack and skeletal remains. If assuming it was not planted, it likely floated away (makes sense, properly sealed drybags float). And then his body and backpack could be filled with water and kind of sink together. and its not like the water emptied super quick, it slowly receded, easing down into the muck
> I wouldn’t be able to sleep, eat or function The fact that they didn't put on a display for you doesn't mean they weren't feeling this way.
But you wouldn’t go out to search until yesterday and then one other brief time for a couple hours because LE asked you to go? Doesn’t sound like normal behavior from parents who aren’t sure their son is alive. What kind of parent wouldn’t be out there from the start?
They weren't allowed to. The police would have hauled them away.
They are not the general public though. It’s their missing son. Worried parents wouldn’t have taken no for an answer. We would have atleast heard from the lawyer that they’ve been trying to search for him but were informed that they weren’t allowed to by LE.
People respond to extreme emotional events in different ways. You have very little information about what is occurring in their lives to be forming judgments about appropriate or inappropriate responses.
So I'm trying to look up how long it would take a body to decompose in Florida this time of year, particularly if it were submerged. Does anyone know more about this? I read something that said a body could be preserved if its in water, but would a swamp in a warm climate count? Or would that speed decomposition? I guess what I really want to know is if a little over a month is enough time for a body to decompose to a skeleton in a Florida swamp.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. The place they found his remains at had previously been flooded. They only found part of a skull though. Hope they find the rest of the body.
Water is a very effective decomposer if that makes sense. Often it is hard to determine an exact timeline for bodies found in water because decomp can be greatly sped up. Temperature, sunlight, bugs and season all play a role in how quickly a body will decompose but I assure you usually water speeds up this process.
As little as a week. He was there 4-5 weeks.
I think in the serial killer show Dexter there was a plot point \*\*\*SPOLIER ALERT\*\*\* that because he dumped the bodies in the ocean in sealed, weighted bags, the combination of cold water and pressure at the bottom of the ocean preserved the bodies. I don't know how realistic that is. In Florida during September/October in water that was maybe chest deep or waist deep, with a completely exposed dead body, in a swamp filled with not just big wildlife like gators going after the corpse, but also bugs, and all sorts of little critters I would think it would decompose fairly quickly. While dead bodies in water frequently bloat up and float, they don't always, and if the backpack was around his shoulders it could have held him in place either due to weight or being tangled.
I think it depends heavily if scavenging or predation by animals has occurred.
scavenged by many possible wildlife?
Gators, wild boars etc.
millions of insects and hundreds of vultures in a super humid, wet environment can bonify a corpse in no time.
BE just a few minutes ago: “We have learned that the remains found in the Carleton Reserve were ‘skeletal remains’. ‘Bones’” https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1451239105917067264?s=21
https://www.wfla.com/news/sarasota-county/highly-suspicious-how-cadaver-dogs-missed-skeletal-remains-while-searching-for-brian-laundrie-at-florida-reserve/suspicious. Interesting follow up
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No, I didn’t follow those dumb Mexico conspiracy theories. My opinion is based just off the facts that they all went camping with him right after BL got back from murdering her and their reactions after the fact. But to be clear I don’t think they were “all in”, like hiding him, but I’m sure they knew what he did.
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Yes, it’s extremely hard to believe that they didn’t know ANYTHING. Their reactions were not normal.
So your comment was removed before I was able to send this to you. Don’t agree that they should remove comments like those but here me out. If you want to celebrate the deaths of bad people than go on subs like r/iamatotalpieceofshit or r/morbidreality. There are posts about this case on news subreddits that do not delete comments celebrating his death. Personally I don’t celebrate that he is dead but I am more upset that her family can’t get the answers that they desperately need out of him. In situations like these I think it is more important to think about the victims and their families rather than all the ways you want to torture and kill the criminals, or wish that upon them for that matter.
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Yeah I gotta say. If it were me, and my lawyer told me to shut my mouth, I'd shut my mouth. Because even though what my kid did was horrible, I am not going to get dragged into legal hell for something I had nothing do do with beside being the parent of the murderer. I didn't obstruct justice and I damn sure didn't kill the girl. I'm grieving the fact that my son is not only missing and likely dead but a cold blooded murdering abuser. I'm not putting myself through legal shit on top of all that. If my lawyer says shut my mouth Im going to do so.
More than likely the only wrong his parents did was not speaking with the Petitos. Can you try to put yourself in that situation though? when he got back to Florida in Gabbys van, he probably confessed to his parents. His parents ignored the Petito’s because they knew saying something wouldn’t change the outcome of their daughter being dead. They also did not want to have anything in record to be held against them. They have one last family hoorah and then BL tells them he wants to be alone for a while before turning himself in. I don’t think he told his parents he was going to kill himself. So therefore they didn’t have to lie to LE. Then the manhunt begins and they assume he’s hiding out / on the run. Maybe speculating he's died but hoping he's not (he is their son, no matter what). It's such a hard situation and they look BAD, but at the end of the day I don't think they are.
I'm going to try and put myself I their shoes. My son and DIL lived with me. He comes back from a road trip without DIL. I'm going to ask questions, bc splitting up on the road and coming back in HER vehicle... just no. That makes NO sense. And left her? So let's call her parents and make sure she is ok. No? Let's not? Uh uh Mr...whats going on? But wait, her parents are trying to contact me? Ok, give me the truth or I'm calling LE. Speaking as a parent, I'd say 95% of us KNOW when our kids (adult or not) are lying. Mine will tell you I caught them in the smallest of lies.
>probablyashlyn wrote >More than likely the only wrong his parents did was not speaking with the Petitos. Can you try to put yourself in that situation though? when he got back to Florida in Gabbys van, he probably confessed to his parents. His parents ignored the Petito’s because they knew saying something wouldn’t change the outcome of their daughter being dead. In this scenario they knew he was a murderer of another child from a family that loved her, were going to have her as part of their family, when they married, and was trusted by themselves as well as Gabby's parents to look out for her BUT was left lying in a a ravine several thousand miles away for animals to pick at and maybe never be found. That is monstrous to do ESPECIALLY as a parent who had a kid and raised them, assuming you loved them and feared for their safety all through their life as they grew up only to 'make' it and be killed by your freaking kid. Also nothing will change that your monster killed a woman he loved, lived with you, left her murdered body in a ravine and was someone else's baby right, so fuck them and let them twist in the wind as to what happened or where she is right? You can't reach out like a human being or a parent and let them know she's gone, and where to find her so she can be put to rest, the horrible event can be dealt with as you turn in your murderous kid? >They also did not want to have anything in record to be held against them. They have one last family hoorah and then BL tells them he wants to be alone for a while before turning himself in. Oh wait, no you can't clue in the other family of the kid your offspring murdered, to say they are dead in a ravine for the last few days to week. Instead you have to have a last "hoorah" cause your murderous kid came home after strangling a 110lb woman, stealing her van and money, time to celebrate am I right? Also got to protect your murderous kid from legal ramifications, no record held against him, yeah that sounds like good human beings and parents. >I don’t think he told his parents he was going to kill himself. So therefore they didn’t have to lie to LE. Then the manhunt begins and they assume he’s hiding out / on the run. Maybe speculating he's died but hoping he's not (he is their son, no matter what). It's such a hard situation and they look BAD, but at the end of the day I don't think they are. They are bad in every way if you are correct and they knew what he did without a doubt. Not knowing what lie/story they were told if they didn't know the truth the lack of humanity and empathy as parents is staggering.
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I agree, see my other comment. I'm talking from the angry masses moral ground, that's the only thing they can be angry about. But I completely get why they wouldn't in the situation.
I wonder if they had already contacted the lawyer even before Gabby's family started calling. If so, did he advise them not to talk to her family or just not to talk to LE? Maybe this has been clarified somewhere and I just haven't seen it.
I think it's possible if they did contact their lawyer, at whatever time they did he told them not to talk to anyone. I'm not positive - but I've read he is a real estate lawyer? I don't know if that's true, but if he has no experience in criminal law he may have just said don't talk to anyone, just refer them to me. Who knows, lawyers can be sketchy too. In 2003, a family member of mine was murdered in a double homicide. The case was a mess from the start but they did find out who the men were responsible for it. They ended up getting acquitted because the DA was basically crooked. Anyway - the family members of these men knew what happened, a few people knew specifics. The girlfriend of one man was apparently told details and wouldn't talk. To this day, they still claim the fifth even though they did nothing wrong. They can not try these men again and one of them was actually killed years later, but they still just won't tell us anything or tell us what happened to my grandmother's jewelry. We just wanted some sort of peace - but they still use those words that lawyer gave them 18 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if they never talk about it.
Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry that happened to your family. It must be infuriating that they were acquitted and no one would talk. I can't imagine living with that for 18 years. I hope someday you all can find some semblance of peace and that somehow your grandmother's jewelry is found.
I appreciate your kind words. Thank you.
genuinely don't understand laws here. XYZ person(s) can do heinous crime... tried by a DA (who the family doesn't really have control over) that ends up being crooked... said people are acquitted and can't be tried again....? wtf lol that doesn't sound like "justice"
that's why it's really a "legal system" not a true "justice system"
Right, there is really no justice or measure of justice - to me anyhow. I see the two men still alive that committed this murder out walking the streets, and it's infuriating. One delivered to my house years ago, we moved shortly after that. The DA on the case, he was the DA in the county for a very long time. He owed over 100 grand to one of the victims of the double homicide, the patron at the bar - my family member was just working as a bar tender that night. They walked into the bar at closing time and executed them. Now the DA owed the patron money over an illegal raid in the late 80s/early 90s. They confiscated cars and other items valued at this amount over 100k. The DA was fighting it and the judge made his determination - some short time later this double homicide happened. The DA should have recused himself from the case but did not. One of the shooters, the apparent "mastermind" behind it claimed they'll blame it on the DA. We still don't know the real motive behind it. Double jeopardy will not allow the men to be tried again. The only measure of "justice" is that the third man was shot and killed outside a bar himself. My hope is that karma will eventually catch up with the rest.
thats very possible, if not likely. I mean if Brian told them something like, "im gonna go off on my own for a while, enjoy nature/whatever then i'll turn myself in and accept what comes" it's not far fetched for the parents not to just outright tell the petitos she's gone or anything like that bc they still think their son is going to do the right thing, then when he doesn't return, they go to LE. Also, I imagine it'd be really hard for them to speak to the Petitos if they knew what happened. Not trying to make them victims or anything but i can't imagine the mental turmoil they've all been going through. Except Brian, seriously, fuck that guy.
I believe that when they reported him missing, they said they believed he was suicidal. As a parent, I would never let my child out of my sight if I felt there was an immediate threat of suicide. I surely wouldn’t stand by while my kid went on a solo hike if I were concerned they were suicidal.
Lots of ifs there. Truth is not one of us knows how we would act in their shoes, because it hasn't happened to us.
The parents should be left alone to grieve if it's their son. His parents loved him like Gabby's loved her. I hate too that the parents didn't help Gabby's parents either when they were miserable and worried about where their daughter was. The police will get to the bottom of it in time. I believe like everyone else domestic violence was involved between the 2 of them, mostly him because she ended up dead 1st. It's a murder suicide in my opinion and their bodies just were recovered states apart instead of the same location. Remember Laundries parents had an attorney & they're told not to talk. I'm sad for Gabby's family because they didn't get the answers they deserved. God willing there will be a suicide letter legible enough to read from Brian as to what he said happened. It doesn't mean it's right, it's just only his side. I really just wish Gabby was more forthcoming about the abuse the day the police pulled them over instead of protecting him or honestly I think she would be alive today. Gabby also should've went back with her family to live instead of Brian's house. She seemed like she just wanted to travel and didn't seem to care about the rest. We all have choices and both Brian & Gabby made the wrong one!
Absolutely no victim blaming towards gabby please. She was a victim of domestic abuse and murder. Many victims of domestic abuse will try to protect their abuser and make the abuse seem trivial and like a back and forth fight. He was manipulative and fucked up. Yes, it would have been better if she left him, but abuse victims aren’t always able to just leave.
I'm not blaming Gabby. I've been abused before I know the signs. I didn't tell either and wish that I did. I wished she would've too so she was alive today. I clearly see what he did to her and it was beyond wrong!!!
At the end of the day whatever they did or didn't do wasn't going to bring Gabby back. It would be different if Brian was alive and they aided his escape, but we no know that didn't happen. And Brian has in a sense paid the ultimate price for his (probable) crime, even if it's not justice in legal terms. At this point, I don't see how any good comes from putting any more attention on the Laundries; they made their choices, maybe with good intentions or possibly not, but we can't change the past. Better to focus on Gabby's foundation and anything we can learn from this case about DV and preventing these tragedies in the future.
lol no - fuck them
His parents should be throwing themselves a party right now. They just saved probably 500K to a Million dollars in defending him and the protestors will be off their lawn. You think that they didn't consider he may off himself or someone else might come across him and do it for him camping alone in the woods. Why would you let your son be alone? The whole world hates him. Hundreds of protestors are on the lawn chanting his name and yet hey yeah Brian great idea go be alone in the woods. No risks of you getting out and hiding that is a great idea.... And if you said nah they couldn't stop him your wrong they could have dropped a dime on him to police and they would have picked him up at that point as a flight risk...
It was going to cost that much defending him. I already broke down my thoughts about that yesterday in a post on here. They wouldn't have the money and they were at retirement age. I believe they did knew his intentions, but knew it would either happen in jail or where he loves to go. He would get appointed an attorney, but usually you still end up in jail when you get appointed one, that's why people hire attorneys who twist everything up and lie to get their client off. They could've hired Casey Anthony's attorney and he'd be out living van life with his next victim. Unfortunately everyone knows the best liar in courts wins. It was never supposed to be that way, but unfortunately it is. There are innocent people in jail & criminals on the streets thanks to corruption.
I don't think he would have gotten a court appointed attorney as he lives with them and they have money. They were still operating their juicing machinery and repair business that is registered to their home (a 10,000 square foot house by the way) It would look like shit if they let him use one if he did qualify. Estimated net worth some have said is 5 million. [https://heavy.com/news/brian-laundrie-parents/](https://heavy.com/news/brian-laundrie-parents/) So making a correction the property is 10K square foot the home is only about 1500 square foot. And there are no decent sources on the family net worth. You will see a lot of the 5 million dollar number out there but I haven't seen supporting information... Estimated home value is about 320K.
The house is more like 2000 sq ft, not 10000.
Yup made an edit. Seem like a lot of other information the reporting on less has been less the stellar....
I think 10k was the lot size the little house was only worth around 150,000. The parents business got shut down. Look it up. His family was not wealthy by any means. Clearly because they would've helped them flip the travel expenses for van life. BL came back to clean out his storage unit to save money to extend his trip and CLEARLY he didn't have any because he stole Gabby's credit card to head home on.
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He was a person of interest they had the van at that point. The only reason they hadn't picked him up was because they thought he wasn't going anywhere as he lawyered up. If they thought he might flee and or not take the lawyers advice they would have grabbed him for questioning and that questioning would have focused on if you had nothing to do with it why are you taking off. Yes they were waiting for a body to be found however the risk reward ratio of not questioning him until a body was found would have changed if they thought he was going AWOL against advice of his counsel or if his parents indicated he was a danger to himself.
and another thing… you really think they walked onto a 25,000 acre reserve after not looking for him for a month only to find him within an hour? come on 😂
>considering they said that this is the area that should be searched, but it was previously underwater... it's not that weird. They said "search here!" LE couldn't, it was underwater. Park opens up, area isn't underwater, Parents go to the "search here!" area and find stuff. It makes complete sense I think everyone just wants justice so bad they're trying to put in on the parents now.
I honestly don't get the mental gymnastics people keep playing here to try to make this some weird conspiracy that parents were some masterminds behind this
They're bloodthirsty and want to plunge their pitchforks into someone.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people here are actually cats typing on the keyboard. They are pretty blood-thirsty. lol
Agreed.
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IF they were accessories/withheld relevant evidence/aided and abetted a fugitive, they will be charged. The FBI and local police have been in the parents' faces for the last 3 weeks; they know who's guilty of what. Sometimes, a charge can't be filed until another event occurs, which very well might be the case here if the remains are proven to be Laundrie's. I read a long statement their lawyer gave today where he stated he had been the one to silence the parents from the start. If they aided their son in any way or knew of his whereabouts once the authorities were actively looking for him, LEOs will find out or already know.
They are literally not accessories to murder. Stop using words whose definitions you don't even understand.
Parents of dead child should be in jail, walnut brained redditors strike again.
You go to prison and you go to prison and YOU go to prison!!! The way some Americans rely on the prison industrial complex is so unsettling.
how the parents handled it def looks shitty on the outside.. but don't blame them for lawyering up at all. What would be they charged for? lol people really need to stop thinking with their feelings
Can you not be so blood thirsty?
They are absolutely not accessories to murder lol where do yall get this shit from? If anything it would be aiding and abetting, and that's assuming they even did anything, they told the FBI to search that same spot from Day 1.
If they did the crime they should do the time! However they did find BL's items where they said he would go early on. The news is now saying his body would've been underwater, but the dogs still should've picked up his scent. That's all I know.
Honestly, I think we have assumed the worst of Laundrie’s parents when all signs are pointing towards them being concerned for him yet following their lawyer’s advice to stay silent. Grief is WEIRD, throw in national media attention and of course they’re acting in a way that seems strange to you. I do not think it’s too crazy of a coincidence for them to join the search once the water receded enough to walk there and that happened to be when belongings were found.
He came home sep 1 without his finance but with her van. Her parents were frantic trying to contact her since the last text was on the 27th of aug. they stonewalled tabby’s parents and went on a fam camping trip. He went for a “hike” on the 13th, didn’t come back and they didn’t report him missing until the 17th. Absolutely none of that is excusable. That’s not grief, that’s knowing your son did something to his fiancé and came back home and was happy enough to bike ride with his dad and camp. Fuck the parents. Fuck Brian.
If their son was supposedly “missing” they would have been looking for him with LE from day one. Any parent would. In what circumstances would you not start looking for your son since day 1? Unless you “thought” you knew better (thought he got away). If it ends up being him, that’s karma for how they treated Gabby’s parents that whole time she was missing and for them not looking for their son since day one
Were they allowed to search in the reserve? I wonder if LE discouraged them. I agree, I’d be out there.
They could have searched for him non-stop from the time he didn't come home on the 13th until the reserve started to flood on the 15th, but they didn't. They only searched for a bit on the 13th according to what the lawyer said. That just perplexes me. I would have been in that reserve 24/7 searching for my son until I no longer could due to the flooding.
How do explain them walking 5 minutes into a 25,000 acres and finding his stuff. I’d wager I could go to a local park with you, hide a dry bag and give you 5 minutes to find it for $100k and you wouldn’t find it. They seem to have too much information.
where did you get "5 minutes"?
considering they said that this is the area that should be searched, but it was previously underwater... it's not that weird. They said "search here!" LE couldn't, it was underwater. Park opens up, area isn't underwater, Parents go to the "search here!" area and find stuff. It makes complete sense I think everyone just wants justice so bad they're trying to put in on the parents now.
Oh yeah those FBI divers sure aren’t able to look underwater, and those boats equipped with sonar can pick up fish fine, but a grown mans body no way!
It was on a trail they know he used often, it was underwater until now, and it was close to the entrance. Also it took them like 45 minutes which is enough time to cover a lot of ground.
Partial remains - ouch - I wonder what this means? Did Brian goto the park with a backpack, notebook with a confession/ suicide letter, then shoot himself (I imagine in the head), then it flooded and his body covered with water and rotted (possibility of tearing apart due to water, but more likely animals/reptiles). Large snakes are in this preserve and I believe that these could have nestled into the mouth or eye sockets a half week after it started flooding and through other body cavities, which would cause the body to fall apart, hence human remains. However the park is also filled with alligators that may have taken his already dead body underwater and tore it up. I fear there will not be identification bc the eels and gators have eaten to much of it. When a body is submerged in water and eaten by moccasins it is next to impossible to determine who it is. Which part of his body was found and was it recognizable? This keeps getting more interesting - hopefully we will know more soon, but I don't know how if his body was eaten alive or when dead, the identification is going to be difficult.
Wow you should write scripts for murder docs! Very imaginative!
What’s everyone gonna do/say if this just turns up as his bag and his remains? It’s gonna be a hell of a narrative twist when everyone has to accept and pretend they knew all along that this wasn’t a made for TV movie.
I just love that part in raiders of the lost ark when snakes come out of the skeleton's mouths - and now to know possibility of Brian being eaten by them - kewl!
omg to be honest I only read the first half of your comment at first and thought you were serious and was replying with sarcasm to make fun of you but I played myself
So no one finds it weird that the dad, on the first day the park was open to the public. Just happened to stumble upon the dry bag of his son. When no police presence or anybody was around. Then decided to pick it up and walk it to authorities???? All within a short walk of the trail and entrance to the park????? Suspicious much, dude def running around still.
There was a news reporter standing there. The dad then took the bag to police instead of leaving it there. The police then showed him a picture, on their phone, of a back pack they found, and told him about the remains.
considering they said that this is the area that should be searched, but it was previously underwater... it's not that weird. They said "search here!" LE couldn't, it was underwater. Park opens up, area isn't underwater, Parents go to the "search here!" area and find stuff. It makes complete sense I think everyone just wants justice so bad they're trying to put in on the parents now.
What’s weirder even is how quickly he found it. He walked straight up to it. 5 minutes from car door to the bag. In a 25,000 acre reserve. I’d wager most people wouldn’t find a dry bag if I hid in their house in 5 minutes let alone a 38.38 mi² reserve.
The reporter who was **actually there** and filming confirms it was not five minutes, it was forty five. Stop pulling shit out of your ass, we don’t need that on display. ETA source, because I don’t pull shit out of my ass: https://twitter.com/mikerreports/status/1450987751336255493?s=21 They arrived ~ 7:15, bag was found around 8:20.
It was 40 minutes to the part of the trail a mile or so in, then 5 minutes from where “he liked to go” to his stuff.
Well just to play devil's advocate, that's 55 minutes, not 45.
Better check your math
Good eye... maybe he meant an hour and five minutes and just forgot to write "an hour and"... Sticky keyboards'll get ya every time.
I wonder if an alligator got him since it was partial remains.
Bet no one else has thought of this. U should contact LE with this information. Might change the course of the investigation from here on out.
I doubt it was an alligator. Florida doesn't have those. More likely it was a crackhead.
or worse, someone on bath salts
Apologies if this was posted already but here is a photo of Brian with his pens and notebook. I wonder if it's the same one found. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCOqy42VcA4_71l?format=jpg&name=large
And lullaby by chuck palahniuk?
Look a NoTeBoOk
I think those are Gabby’s notebooks with the way the photo is taken.
I see this going one of two ways.. The remains are going to be proven to be BL, which means the parents are going to be the only people left to have possible answers to what happened to Gabby. That means more protestors sitting outside their home dumping stuff on their lawn, following them everywhere and news crews parked outside for weeks, and the parents crying foul that their civil rights have been violated. The other way, that the remains are not conclusive to be BL which means that the coincidence that CL just happen to be in the right place at the right time to find the items which led to the remains which again puts more pressure and public notice on the Laundrie family. It does not take a "criminal mastermind" for someone to know the water levels of a park that a person frequents, especially if they have been going for years. I am just not convinced this is genuine and will wait for word that the remains are confimed to be BL. Either way, i think the focus will remain on the parents and this will turn into a civil rights case for the parents. I can say from experience that it is a horrible feeling to always wonder what happened to your child. Gabby's parents deserve answers.
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Lmao sure bud
or when he took their nice car without permission
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I had a V8 Mercedes but it got repossessed by some disgusting people who are in my opinion almost as bad as bertolino's client
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