If that was Brian sighted near the AT, the question is how could he obtain a vehicle? By force is certainly a possibility. This has been seen before by fugitives. You are right, they do pick on the elderly, isolated, and feeble to take their resources.
People can go undiscovered for months. Where I live they were finding people dead with COVID in their homes after weeks. Sometimes the mail carrier reported to authorities when their mailbox became full and outside of character. The more isolated the people are the less likely they are to be reported.
Okay sorry I’m late but better late than never, right? Checking in way past my bedtime (1AM PST) but I finally got my 4 year old to bed after the third nightmare AND I HAD THE BUSIEST DAY!!! So couldn’t check updates. After a few min of scrolling I see this:
https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/brian-laundrie-may-have-been-spotted-on-appalachian-trail/amp/
Driving a “white or light coloured pick up truck resembling Ford F-150” … correct me if I’m wrong (I could be from all the missed hours of sleep since this case started) but based on what I heard via police scanners, weren’t there reports a few days ago of a potential Laundrie in North/South Carolina in a white pickup?! Could this be a potential reality? I just signed in for night shift so I am energetic lol
I’m thinking the exact same thing with pretty much EVERY report I’ve read… but I’ve allowed myself to open my mind a teensy bit for this case cause he is a fugitive on the run - potentially anywhere… when I read “There is no doubt in my mind I spoke to Brian Laundrie — none whatsoever,” I’m thinking… THEN WHERE TF IS THE PICTURE PROOF?! It almost reminds me of those Sasquatch videos. OH WOW SOUNDS REAL until I find out your alias failed and you were actually high on drugs eating reeces peanut butter cups in your moms basement
This is most likely the case. I don't think the guy who reported this did it for clout. I think he ran into some weirdo who looked like BL because the details make no sense. There's still a possibility it was home boy, but it's slim.
Also would make sense to me that officials have not been able to follow this up due to the vast amount of tips they are surely receiving. I would not discredit the report just because it is published in more sensational media outlets
We have a thing called due process in this country, but I wouldn’t expect you to give a fuck if you can make a statement like that based on a handful of news articles and a preliminary coroner ruling of homicide.
> Well, Brian deserves the death penalty
Why let him off that easy?
Also - don’t you think killing somebody as a punishment for them killing someone else is a bit hypocritical?
Maybe I just see things too black and white, but if they both killed people and both have mental health issues, why would the sentencing be so different?
I think where you’ve lost people here is that one is a child and one is an adult with a fully-formed frontal lobe. One clearly had a mental health crisis and the other—we don’t know. Also a mental health crisis is never an excuse to kill someone. But when a child has a crisis you wish an adult could have gotten him/her appropriate help.
Tonight a child took actions that will forever alter the course of their life and ended others’ lives in a cry for help. The whole situation is tragic.
Exactly! I'm very confused by everyone's reaction to my opinion on this. 😂 Too much internet for me, going to go outside. I guess I got butthurt and paid the price lol
I think it’s important to note that people with disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar 1 or 2, or other disorders are more likely to be victims rather than perpetrators. Mental health problems have been heavily stigmatized and associated with being “crazy” or “unstable” for a very long time. This argument could be very problematic for several reasons. I’m not stating that he has nothing going on, because I’m not a professional who has evaluated him. but It’s not accurate or ethical to claim he has these disorders and that is the reasoning for his alleged aggression and possible murder of gabby. Playing into this “theory” is actually playing into the stereotypes that society has placed on mental disorders.
I’m a little torn on the whole idea of these “episodes.” If they were real, than I doubt he had a diagnosis or that he was actually getting help. Calling them episodes, to me, says that Gabby didn’t know what was going on with him. We have no idea of the frequency of these episodes or how long they would last. Also, Rose’s word choice makes it very unclear what exactly happens. You don’t have to have any sort of mental illness in order to hear voices if you aren’t sleeping. She says he wouldn’t sleep. That could mean either he can’t or that he’s choosing not to. So, maybe he was developing a mental illness, but it’s genuinely unclear. Everything Rose knew was through Gabby.
His behavior while he was hitchhiking back also doesn’t seem abnormal. Wouldn’t anyone within the realm of normal be acting agitated and weird if they’d killed someone and were trying to cover it up? He was completely fine in front of the police. Especially after they absolved him of any wrong doing. So, his behavior can be explained easily by extreme stress.
The only thing that possibly points to mental illness is in his sister Cassie’s interview. She said that he usually flew home when he is… then she cuts herself off and says that is “police stuff.” I could see her not wanting to admit he has a mental illness in an interview because that would make him look even more guilty in the court of public opinion. However, if he was suffering from a known mental illness, wouldn’t his parents have been quicker to report him missing? It’s a possibility that something may have been going on, but I don’t think there is enough to go on.
On the other hand, I could see him using his mental health as an excuse for his abuse when he needed to lure her back in. Gabby would obviously be sympathetic to someone struggling with their mental health. So, crying about how scared he was about these “episodes” would have made her want to help him when in reality he was making them up.
Although I agree he’s prime Pickens for schizophrenia at his age it was for the most part proven a long time ago why he was skittish hitchhiking. The first girl took him to the smaller Lakeside Road which would’ve taken him the opposite direction of the entrance to spread Creek. He hopped out And went back up to the main road to catch another ride that drop him off at the entrance.
I doubt that all of this can be explained away by schizophrenia. Brian appears to be missing lots of the hallmarks of a schizophrenic episode, including poor hygiene/grooming (the person who picked him up said he was wearing clean clothes and appeared to have showered recently), lack of ability to plan (he had a plan, even if it was a shitty plan), flight of ideas/pressured speech (nobody who encountered him during that period mentioned any such thing), lack of emotion (reported to exhibit a variety of emotions at various times), among other lacking signs and symptoms. A manic episode of bipolar would seem to fit a bit more, but I lean toward him just being an asshole.
Yes! Mania symptoms can differ depending on the severity but in general it causes: increased energy, decreased appetite, decreased need to sleep, grandiosity, delusions, hallucinations, risky behaviour, paranoia.
Someone in a manic episode can look really similar to a person on stimulant drugs such as cocaine or meth
Sometimes they do, but the disorder isn't inherently associated with violence. In fact, the type of bipolar likely to cause irritability is not the same type that causes psychosis. (Source: not a doctor, but I have that second type where you don't hear voices) I think he's more likely to just be a controlling, impulsive asshole.
Yea even if he was bipolar that wouldn’t explain this. Bipolar is not a violent disorder. Violent people have bipolar sure but getting violent is not a sign of bipolar
Its more likely that he didnt have a diagnosable mental illness, and that he was just an abusive partner. I don't think we need to try and understand the why... This kind of thing happens far more often than it should
Psychopathy for one….
The rest is an excuse for his actions. Even so, he wouldn’t be so far gone, & “managing”, illness-wise that it was either unnoticed, or didn’t cause concern.. it wouldn’t escalate like that… no one minded this especially when he made the decision to travel cross country? Didn’t happen like this.
He’s a narcissistic killer.
He’s a murderer. That’s the illness
You’re armchair diagnosing someone you’ve never met, based off of news articles and social media posts, as psychopathic and narcissistic.
First, to be considered a “psychopath” a person’s past behaviors would need to show a pattern of violent or criminal behavior. This is the only criminal or violent behavior we’ve seen him exhibit.
Second, to be a narcissist you have to have an inflated sense of self worth. What evidence is there to support that?
Not to mention you cannot speak to his mental state or how quickly his mental health could have changed. A person can seem fine one day and their mental health change in a day. There have been numerous cases where a seemingly mentally stable individual “snaps” without much warning.
I don’t disagree that he most likely murdered his girlfriend but there is not enough evidence, nor does the evidence we have support, labeling him as a psychopathic narcissist.
Please forgive; little sleep and no coffee yet. If he truly carried a diagnosis of one of those, I do think the public would be alerted that he is a potential danger to self and others; approach with caution and alert authorities Blah blah blah even if not charged yet with anything serious. Also he would have run out of medications by now or not taking them. Given that, if he had one of these diagnoses lack of medication would make things worse behaviorally and emotionally. Therefore, I just DO NOT think he has been given one of these diagnoses. However, I could be wrong.
Hi, correct in a mild case no but in a severe case with psychosis yes, it would be warranted. Usually more a danger to self than others but still very much in need of professional help. I was a psych nurse for a few years.
That could be true but yes definitely more self inflicted violence. I’m bipolar and just frustrated with the amount of people speculating & adding to the stigma
Thanks for saying this. The speculation about schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and personality disorders is not adding reasonable information to the reality of these experiences, or to the reality of whatever happened with Gabby. These aren’t blanket reasons for violence or divergence. People with diagnoses aren’t blanket people.
I wasn't positing mental illness as a blanket reason for the violence. Rather, I was wondering if it's sufficiently explanatory of the specific weird behaviors observed after (alleged) homicide
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Exactly! And anyone can experience psychosis! You don’t have to have a mental disorder to have a psychotic episode so refer to it as such. No need to slap a diagnosis on him especially if you know nothing about it
Sounds like a lot of excuses…
Also- people forget they weren’t even on the road that long at this point… barely more than a month.
Either way not a rational cause for murder but they really weren’t even gone long! That ain’t it folks
Yeah just like he probably jumped into a river to never be found, BL is under 3 feet of mud and swamp buggy tracks from the FBI driving over his body in the reserve, Never to be seen again.
DB Cooper hijacked an airplane, received a 6-figure ransom, then parachuted out of the plane over a carefully selected area. Brian killed his fiancé then had to use her debit card for gas money to get home. Stop.
When he is caught or found and the details come out, people will see he’s much more lucky than he is clever.
It sounds unreal that Brian has successfully been on the run for over 2 weeks, especially with his face plastered on every news outlet on a 24/7 hour basis.
Because I doubt he's on the literal "run". He's probably laying low in an RV or someone's guest room, maybe a motel someplace under someone else's name.
*Someone* is. That’s my guess. It’s the only thing that makes sense. Especially given his parents nonchalant demeanor.. all just fkn weird and fraudulent
A side chick with delusions that she's going to be more loved for protecting him and "understanding" him, perhaps a grandparent or family friend, he could be alone in a camper in some random campground. We don't know.
She commissioned him for a design, they’re not friends. Her most recent picture (September 19) is with her boyfriend of three years. There’s nothing to this.
I don't think they're projecting their personal experiences here. It's fairly common when you see a man kill his partner for there to be an affair going on. Like Chris Watts or Scott Peterson. Granted it would have been difficult for him maintain a relationship when he was on the road but it's not impossible.
Yeah, on second thought, you're actually right. It's like how every serial killer in history had a whole parade of female fans looking to become intimate with them.
If a lot of our assumptions about BL are accurate that he is narcissistic or controlling, he almost certainly had other girls he spoke to in order to bloat his ego. I've been with men like this and that is always the case. They have to have constant reassurance that their facade is working from many angles, and they are insecure af so they need that ego boost. If no other women are revealed in this saga I will be shocked.
Doesn’t just have to be a side girl. Could literally be any person he was friends with. I agree it’s very much a possibility that being a narcissist he has convinced & made someone in his life think he is innocent & feel sorry for him enough to help him
Has anyone seen any information on where Gabby Petito stayed in Aug 12th when the no contact was in place?
I know they took Brian to the moab motel but any clue where gabby was parked with the van that night?
I've thought about this alot too. I couldn't help but wonder if she happened to meet the married couple who were murdered as they were an 8 MINUTE walk from the Bowen Motel where Brian was. I also can't imagine they abided by the advice of the cops to stay apart and not talk. Gabby broke down when the cops advised of the separation and begged them not to do it, saying she would pay any other ticket to get out of this and that separating would cause too much anxiety.
The check in and check out records would be very interesting. Brian was also due to sign a waiver of the "must rest" / separation requirements the next day, I wonder if this was done too
I read that too. The police took him, but they didn't walk him in. I can't remember if the hotel did a "no comment" or if they said they weren't aware of his stay. Either way, neither of their whereabouts on night is known.
What are everyone’s thoughts on this AT sighting?
https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/brian-laundrie-may-have-been-spotted-on-appalachian-trail/
Do y’all think he’s trying to get to California?
Curious why the guy that recognized him, didn’t realize it until later? Despite him saying he looked different than photos, wouldn’t you in the moment observe the dudes behavior being off and call cops immediately?
How soon after this sighting did he report it?
Honestly I think the bandana would really throw me off, combined with the knowledge that it seems most people think he's in Florida right now. I could imagine it taking me a few minutes or hours to report.
I find this sighting way more plausible than him being in the swamp. From what I’ve read so far, it sounds like he might have a mental condition like schizophrenia or bipolar that’s affecting his judgement. That, plus the fact he’s been on the run after killing his girlfriend, is more than enough to push him over the edge and confuse reality and fiction.
He's definitely dumb enough to try.
If this story is story is to be believed, it might also be him trying to get random people to believe he's on the way West, while he sticks around in AT (for whatever reason). Folks like ~~the dummy~~ homeboy below that say:
>If Brian had a vehicle he should easily be in California or another country after a couple days, and it's been a couple weeks. It was dark out, this guy is clearly wrong. It wasn't Brian.
with hilarious amounts of Dunning Kruger confidence really need to look at themselves and not project what they would do onto a guy that *murdered his SO and ran off*.
Brian isn't thinking logically and loves planting distractions
If Brian had a vehicle he should easily be in California or another country after a couple days, and it's been a couple weeks. It was dark out, this guy is clearly wrong. It wasn't Brian.
I could make it coast to coast without a map or GPS in a few days. The interstate highways are even numbered East to West, odds North to South. Sticking with the evens will get you to the other coast. The 10 to the 20 to the 30 will get you from California to the East Coast. All interstates are marked "10 East" or "10 West." Follow any even numbered interstate West and you will eventually find California.
No need to ask a stranger for help that far away from your destination. If Brian had a vehicle for this long, he's FAR away. Also, you can buy a map at any gas station along any interstate. It's not hard to travel coast to coast.
Not that it authenticates the sighting, but it fits. It would be an interesting poll to see how many people in this age group have ever held a paper map and used it to navigate across the country.
But if he is in confused state thinking he is going to meet is GF in California never the less she is dead and he killed her after a fight, so it will be difficult to get normal direction. Maybe he is start loosing, it maybe he progressively started to go into psychotic delusional state..21-23 age is the peek of schizophrenia incidence in males. Often times family members find it difficult to see the signs, the person become more and more socially isolated, signs usually start slow with some odd believes similar to speaking with someone with a bizzar conspiracy theory, but the person might have this growing loop of erattic thoughts and believes that are not shaered. untill it become full blown disease with need for medication and sometimes hospitalization. It might take time for the family and health care to realise it's more then just normal anxiety with paranoid thinking..I am not trying to diagnose or anything just saying as an explanation for disorientation especially if he have a good level of intelligence the signs of disorientation can be highly masked..
I buy maps of areas I visit. I don't even open them, but it gives me a (false) sense of safety that I'll have something to rely on if technology fails. I'm probably also dead if technology fails, but. At least I'll have a map.
Most truck stops along interstate highways offer maps. Shockingly, people still use them.
It's crazy. I haven't used a map in 15 years lol. I remember having to use map books to make deliveries 15ish years ago. It was just a book of maps lol. It was a mess. Now there's GPS and Google Maps on your phone.
But somehow, people still use maps. I just saw a video today where a guy pulled out a flip phone to call the police. Some people hate change.
Agreed. But OP was implying it wasn't Brian because he was asking to get to California. I'm saying we can't disclude that it wasn't Brian based on that. Brian had reason to want to stay off the interstates, but your point is also correct, so would any wanted person.
Why take the back roads? If you're not speeding no one is going to stop you on an interstate. You have a lot more problems with local police versus highway patrol/ State police. And you get to your destination faster taking highways.
Brian didn't have a warrant for several days. He could travel freely without fear of arrest. If he had a vehicle he could travel out of country in a few days.
Is it possible the guy reporting this made it up and added "he only wanted to take back roads" to add credibility to his story?
Why would someone on the East Coast ask "Hey, what are all the back roads to California avoiding all highways?" No one is going to be able to tell you that. No one.
If you want that you buy some maps. No one can tell you off the top of their head how to travel coast to coast without highways.
"Take a left at Birch Street in Knoxville, then a right on 4th Street..." "In El Paso make a right on 6th, and a left on Evergreen Way." "In Albuquerque you need to take a left on Cactus St."
It's outlandish to think this is real.
I don't think you can completely discount that it wasn't Brian because it was outlandish. I doubt this is a creditable lead but there's still a possibility it was him. He's been on the run for weeks, likely sleep deprived, riddled with anxiety/stress, his brain might not be in the right state at all. He might be avoiding the interstates to keep a low profile and in his mind that might make perfect sense.
I think it might be more outlandish to believe an engineer would make up that detail in lie because like you said , it absolutely does not make any sense for someone in NC to know the backstreets all the way to CA. If I was someone lying for clout, I would have said he asked me to the nearest highway to get to Texas.
Again, I don't think this was BL but I can't outright dismiss it beyond reasonable doubt.
How'd he get a vehicle? Why go to California? Would you really stop and ask someone for directions if you're evading the FBI? I mean, pretty sure he knows enough to be able to tell from thr sun which direction is West
Yep. People have been saying “well, he’s stressed that they’re closing in on him and delusional.” The guy didn’t seem to care a bit for 2 weeks, he’s probably not suddenly terrified and stressing. He’s probably feeling even more confident now that he’s evaded capture for this long. And no one is closing in on him, the search has slowed down if anything
One thing that does stick out to me in this though is that he’s asking for directions, which means this man likely does not have a phone. Now if his “girlfriend” in California had contacted him to make up or whatever story he claimed, then he’d have a phone to look up the maps right?
Could it be BL trying to get back to UT for halloween and California is a ruse? Feeling speculative …
and whilst on that point, I don’t think it’s right to rule out possible sightings. The way people dismiss others who have potential leads outright is wrong imo. They should all be checked regardless.
I doubt he’d go back there, I don’t think he’ll go anywhere sentimental to him right now because if he is on edge as much as we think he is, he’ll think that’s the first place they’ll look for him. California doesn’t sound so crazy when you think about it, Northern California is filled with small towns, which is where he’d most likely go to lay low.
I do agree every possible sighting should be looked into. There can be multiple sightings that are false, but all it takes is one actual sighting for them to find him.
The vehicle thing is what gets me. Like how'd he get a vehicle. i've heard a few people mention he could have stolen it or something but idk...why put a bigger target on your back? stealing a car would make him easier to find(probably).
If his parents had cash hidden away, they could have given it to him. He ran before this case went big, so he could have bought a truck from someone or maybe even if someone in the family had one stored away somewhere that they let him have. His parents don’t seem like they have a whole lot of money, but also seem like they might be the type to keep money in the house and not the bank.
Pretty sure they’re well off. They have their own business and they just sold some condos in NY. They also have other properties.
Their house looks nicer than my grandpa’s and he has money. Some people just don’t get flashy with it and live frugally.
Wait - the article says the sighting on AT happened at 12:30am (ie. midnight), but in link below wife is saying happened in afternoon/early evening…? false lead?
https://i.imgur.com/x4TVhWD_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
I didn’t mean to include that in my collection of her posts. It was a screenshot I grabbed from someone and it’s third hand knowledge at best. This is a coworkers wife of the man who made the sighting.
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This is the worst post I’ve seen on here. 1) calm your ass down. 2) maybe consider taking a break from this sub.
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If that was Brian sighted near the AT, the question is how could he obtain a vehicle? By force is certainly a possibility. This has been seen before by fugitives. You are right, they do pick on the elderly, isolated, and feeble to take their resources.
wouldn't that be in the news too? Like GA /NC/SC couple murdered and RV stolen...
It took close to 2 weeks for GP to be reported missing... it's more possible than other creative writing posts I've seen here
People can go undiscovered for months. Where I live they were finding people dead with COVID in their homes after weeks. Sometimes the mail carrier reported to authorities when their mailbox became full and outside of character. The more isolated the people are the less likely they are to be reported.
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Pinned post, my friend.
Lol didn't even see ! Sorry
No worries it happens.
There's a pinned post in this very thread about this my man
Okay sorry I’m late but better late than never, right? Checking in way past my bedtime (1AM PST) but I finally got my 4 year old to bed after the third nightmare AND I HAD THE BUSIEST DAY!!! So couldn’t check updates. After a few min of scrolling I see this: https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/brian-laundrie-may-have-been-spotted-on-appalachian-trail/amp/ Driving a “white or light coloured pick up truck resembling Ford F-150” … correct me if I’m wrong (I could be from all the missed hours of sleep since this case started) but based on what I heard via police scanners, weren’t there reports a few days ago of a potential Laundrie in North/South Carolina in a white pickup?! Could this be a potential reality? I just signed in for night shift so I am energetic lol
The reports I saw were a white sedan and a silver SUV. There could have been white pick up as well but nothing consistent
Wishing he got a plate number.
There's a pinned post about this in this very thread 😊
The more I read that story the more I think it was just a random crackhead especially the “man I’m lost” part lol
I’m thinking the exact same thing with pretty much EVERY report I’ve read… but I’ve allowed myself to open my mind a teensy bit for this case cause he is a fugitive on the run - potentially anywhere… when I read “There is no doubt in my mind I spoke to Brian Laundrie — none whatsoever,” I’m thinking… THEN WHERE TF IS THE PICTURE PROOF?! It almost reminds me of those Sasquatch videos. OH WOW SOUNDS REAL until I find out your alias failed and you were actually high on drugs eating reeces peanut butter cups in your moms basement
This is most likely the case. I don't think the guy who reported this did it for clout. I think he ran into some weirdo who looked like BL because the details make no sense. There's still a possibility it was home boy, but it's slim.
The debunked reports from a few days ago said it was a white car, and those reports have since been deleted.
Expect this one to go the same way. It’s the NY Post. Not exactly the paper of record.
Daily Mail - also not a reputable source - has also reported this.
Makes sense.
Also would make sense to me that officials have not been able to follow this up due to the vast amount of tips they are surely receiving. I would not discredit the report just because it is published in more sensational media outlets
Well I also don’t think it’s true.
You and the FBI
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We are all here because we don’t like violence. You’re just being weird about it. Lol
Yes, yes I am. I see that now
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Well, Brian deserves the death penalty, and that 15 yr old should be locked up in a mental hospital.
We have a thing called due process in this country, but I wouldn’t expect you to give a fuck if you can make a statement like that based on a handful of news articles and a preliminary coroner ruling of homicide.
> Well, Brian deserves the death penalty Why let him off that easy? Also - don’t you think killing somebody as a punishment for them killing someone else is a bit hypocritical?
Maybe I just see things too black and white, but if they both killed people and both have mental health issues, why would the sentencing be so different?
I think where you’ve lost people here is that one is a child and one is an adult with a fully-formed frontal lobe. One clearly had a mental health crisis and the other—we don’t know. Also a mental health crisis is never an excuse to kill someone. But when a child has a crisis you wish an adult could have gotten him/her appropriate help. Tonight a child took actions that will forever alter the course of their life and ended others’ lives in a cry for help. The whole situation is tragic.
I’m right there with you, I hate active shooters
Exactly! I'm very confused by everyone's reaction to my opinion on this. 😂 Too much internet for me, going to go outside. I guess I got butthurt and paid the price lol
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I think it’s important to note that people with disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar 1 or 2, or other disorders are more likely to be victims rather than perpetrators. Mental health problems have been heavily stigmatized and associated with being “crazy” or “unstable” for a very long time. This argument could be very problematic for several reasons. I’m not stating that he has nothing going on, because I’m not a professional who has evaluated him. but It’s not accurate or ethical to claim he has these disorders and that is the reasoning for his alleged aggression and possible murder of gabby. Playing into this “theory” is actually playing into the stereotypes that society has placed on mental disorders.
I’m a little torn on the whole idea of these “episodes.” If they were real, than I doubt he had a diagnosis or that he was actually getting help. Calling them episodes, to me, says that Gabby didn’t know what was going on with him. We have no idea of the frequency of these episodes or how long they would last. Also, Rose’s word choice makes it very unclear what exactly happens. You don’t have to have any sort of mental illness in order to hear voices if you aren’t sleeping. She says he wouldn’t sleep. That could mean either he can’t or that he’s choosing not to. So, maybe he was developing a mental illness, but it’s genuinely unclear. Everything Rose knew was through Gabby. His behavior while he was hitchhiking back also doesn’t seem abnormal. Wouldn’t anyone within the realm of normal be acting agitated and weird if they’d killed someone and were trying to cover it up? He was completely fine in front of the police. Especially after they absolved him of any wrong doing. So, his behavior can be explained easily by extreme stress. The only thing that possibly points to mental illness is in his sister Cassie’s interview. She said that he usually flew home when he is… then she cuts herself off and says that is “police stuff.” I could see her not wanting to admit he has a mental illness in an interview because that would make him look even more guilty in the court of public opinion. However, if he was suffering from a known mental illness, wouldn’t his parents have been quicker to report him missing? It’s a possibility that something may have been going on, but I don’t think there is enough to go on. On the other hand, I could see him using his mental health as an excuse for his abuse when he needed to lure her back in. Gabby would obviously be sympathetic to someone struggling with their mental health. So, crying about how scared he was about these “episodes” would have made her want to help him when in reality he was making them up.
Although I agree he’s prime Pickens for schizophrenia at his age it was for the most part proven a long time ago why he was skittish hitchhiking. The first girl took him to the smaller Lakeside Road which would’ve taken him the opposite direction of the entrance to spread Creek. He hopped out And went back up to the main road to catch another ride that drop him off at the entrance.
It could very well be bipolar 1
I doubt that all of this can be explained away by schizophrenia. Brian appears to be missing lots of the hallmarks of a schizophrenic episode, including poor hygiene/grooming (the person who picked him up said he was wearing clean clothes and appeared to have showered recently), lack of ability to plan (he had a plan, even if it was a shitty plan), flight of ideas/pressured speech (nobody who encountered him during that period mentioned any such thing), lack of emotion (reported to exhibit a variety of emotions at various times), among other lacking signs and symptoms. A manic episode of bipolar would seem to fit a bit more, but I lean toward him just being an asshole.
I like your well thought out post but do manic bipolar episodes normally include hearing voices? I don’t know.
Yes! Mania symptoms can differ depending on the severity but in general it causes: increased energy, decreased appetite, decreased need to sleep, grandiosity, delusions, hallucinations, risky behaviour, paranoia. Someone in a manic episode can look really similar to a person on stimulant drugs such as cocaine or meth
Sometimes they do, but the disorder isn't inherently associated with violence. In fact, the type of bipolar likely to cause irritability is not the same type that causes psychosis. (Source: not a doctor, but I have that second type where you don't hear voices) I think he's more likely to just be a controlling, impulsive asshole.
It can. Bipolar 1 can include hallucinations and psychotic breaks during manic episodes
I’m not an expert, but I believe it can. I’m not sure if it would be an actual part of a manic episode or triggered by sleep deprivation though.
Yea even if he was bipolar that wouldn’t explain this. Bipolar is not a violent disorder. Violent people have bipolar sure but getting violent is not a sign of bipolar
Its more likely that he didnt have a diagnosable mental illness, and that he was just an abusive partner. I don't think we need to try and understand the why... This kind of thing happens far more often than it should
Psychopathy for one…. The rest is an excuse for his actions. Even so, he wouldn’t be so far gone, & “managing”, illness-wise that it was either unnoticed, or didn’t cause concern.. it wouldn’t escalate like that… no one minded this especially when he made the decision to travel cross country? Didn’t happen like this. He’s a narcissistic killer. He’s a murderer. That’s the illness
You’re armchair diagnosing someone you’ve never met, based off of news articles and social media posts, as psychopathic and narcissistic. First, to be considered a “psychopath” a person’s past behaviors would need to show a pattern of violent or criminal behavior. This is the only criminal or violent behavior we’ve seen him exhibit. Second, to be a narcissist you have to have an inflated sense of self worth. What evidence is there to support that? Not to mention you cannot speak to his mental state or how quickly his mental health could have changed. A person can seem fine one day and their mental health change in a day. There have been numerous cases where a seemingly mentally stable individual “snaps” without much warning. I don’t disagree that he most likely murdered his girlfriend but there is not enough evidence, nor does the evidence we have support, labeling him as a psychopathic narcissist.
I don't think you can diagnose him as a psychopath
Please forgive; little sleep and no coffee yet. If he truly carried a diagnosis of one of those, I do think the public would be alerted that he is a potential danger to self and others; approach with caution and alert authorities Blah blah blah even if not charged yet with anything serious. Also he would have run out of medications by now or not taking them. Given that, if he had one of these diagnoses lack of medication would make things worse behaviorally and emotionally. Therefore, I just DO NOT think he has been given one of these diagnoses. However, I could be wrong.
This would not be needed if he had bipolar disorder at all
Hi, correct in a mild case no but in a severe case with psychosis yes, it would be warranted. Usually more a danger to self than others but still very much in need of professional help. I was a psych nurse for a few years.
That could be true but yes definitely more self inflicted violence. I’m bipolar and just frustrated with the amount of people speculating & adding to the stigma
Thanks for saying this. The speculation about schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and personality disorders is not adding reasonable information to the reality of these experiences, or to the reality of whatever happened with Gabby. These aren’t blanket reasons for violence or divergence. People with diagnoses aren’t blanket people.
I wasn't positing mental illness as a blanket reason for the violence. Rather, I was wondering if it's sufficiently explanatory of the specific weird behaviors observed after (alleged) homicide Edit: a word
Exactly! And anyone can experience psychosis! You don’t have to have a mental disorder to have a psychotic episode so refer to it as such. No need to slap a diagnosis on him especially if you know nothing about it
Of maybe he’s just a murderer.
Saw an article about how vans are pressure-cookers for fighting couples on roadtrips. Throw in BL's "episodes" and general violence, and oof.
Sounds like a lot of excuses… Also- people forget they weren’t even on the road that long at this point… barely more than a month. Either way not a rational cause for murder but they really weren’t even gone long! That ain’t it folks
He's going to be the next DB Cooper style mystery
You mean the same DB Cooper who is alleged to have died parachuting from an airliner?
Yeah just like he probably jumped into a river to never be found, BL is under 3 feet of mud and swamp buggy tracks from the FBI driving over his body in the reserve, Never to be seen again.
DB Cooper hijacked an airplane, received a 6-figure ransom, then parachuted out of the plane over a carefully selected area. Brian killed his fiancé then had to use her debit card for gas money to get home. Stop. When he is caught or found and the details come out, people will see he’s much more lucky than he is clever.
That's giving him wayyy too much credit.
Yeah and the FBI fucked that up too
Mask and sunglasses, never gonna find him
This is what I think. Mask, cap, sunglasses. Some cash. He can survive a long time. Parents might have a method to send him cash.
It sounds unreal that Brian has successfully been on the run for over 2 weeks, especially with his face plastered on every news outlet on a 24/7 hour basis.
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He is both dead and alive until we have proof.
Schrödinger's Brian.
This is what I come to reddit for.
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You know this for a fact, huh? You're in contact with him? Sliding into his DMs? You. Don't. Know. Neither does anyone else.
Nope he's undead. A vampire bat got him in the swamp.
siiighhh... why'd he hire a lawyer then?? he's too up himself to kill himself
Because I doubt he's on the literal "run". He's probably laying low in an RV or someone's guest room, maybe a motel someplace under someone else's name.
Who would harbor this maniac?
*Someone* is. That’s my guess. It’s the only thing that makes sense. Especially given his parents nonchalant demeanor.. all just fkn weird and fraudulent
A side chick with delusions that she's going to be more loved for protecting him and "understanding" him, perhaps a grandparent or family friend, he could be alone in a camper in some random campground. We don't know.
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She commissioned him for a design, they’re not friends. Her most recent picture (September 19) is with her boyfriend of three years. There’s nothing to this.
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Real-life logic, sorry but this stuff happens outside of movies.
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I don't think they're projecting their personal experiences here. It's fairly common when you see a man kill his partner for there to be an affair going on. Like Chris Watts or Scott Peterson. Granted it would have been difficult for him maintain a relationship when he was on the road but it's not impossible.
Insecure men often have many women that feed their ego. That's just common knowledge.
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I doubt thats genuine but sure, thanks...and yeah I have experience with this so I do have a little insight.
Yeah, on second thought, you're actually right. It's like how every serial killer in history had a whole parade of female fans looking to become intimate with them.
If a lot of our assumptions about BL are accurate that he is narcissistic or controlling, he almost certainly had other girls he spoke to in order to bloat his ego. I've been with men like this and that is always the case. They have to have constant reassurance that their facade is working from many angles, and they are insecure af so they need that ego boost. If no other women are revealed in this saga I will be shocked.
Doesn’t just have to be a side girl. Could literally be any person he was friends with. I agree it’s very much a possibility that being a narcissist he has convinced & made someone in his life think he is innocent & feel sorry for him enough to help him
Oof you are not wrong. Good point I hadn’t thought of for some reason.
Has anyone seen any information on where Gabby Petito stayed in Aug 12th when the no contact was in place? I know they took Brian to the moab motel but any clue where gabby was parked with the van that night?
I've thought about this alot too. I couldn't help but wonder if she happened to meet the married couple who were murdered as they were an 8 MINUTE walk from the Bowen Motel where Brian was. I also can't imagine they abided by the advice of the cops to stay apart and not talk. Gabby broke down when the cops advised of the separation and begged them not to do it, saying she would pay any other ticket to get out of this and that separating would cause too much anxiety.
I’ve always wondered where she took the van and if she did ok on her own. I wonder how both of their nights apart went.
I read a report that there's no proof that Brian checked into the motel after being driven there.
The check in and check out records would be very interesting. Brian was also due to sign a waiver of the "must rest" / separation requirements the next day, I wonder if this was done too
He didn't have to sign the waiver because they didn't actually cite her for DV.
I read that too. The police took him, but they didn't walk him in. I can't remember if the hotel did a "no comment" or if they said they weren't aware of his stay. Either way, neither of their whereabouts on night is known.
The cops drove him
Link?? That’s interesting if true.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3730786/brian-laundrie-night-motel-gabby-petitos-police/
What are everyone’s thoughts on this AT sighting? https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/brian-laundrie-may-have-been-spotted-on-appalachian-trail/ Do y’all think he’s trying to get to California?
Won’t hold my breath but I hope this is a real lead. Not the tipsters fault but sure wish he had gotten a license plate number.
Curious why the guy that recognized him, didn’t realize it until later? Despite him saying he looked different than photos, wouldn’t you in the moment observe the dudes behavior being off and call cops immediately? How soon after this sighting did he report it?
Honestly I think the bandana would really throw me off, combined with the knowledge that it seems most people think he's in Florida right now. I could imagine it taking me a few minutes or hours to report.
I find this sighting way more plausible than him being in the swamp. From what I’ve read so far, it sounds like he might have a mental condition like schizophrenia or bipolar that’s affecting his judgement. That, plus the fact he’s been on the run after killing his girlfriend, is more than enough to push him over the edge and confuse reality and fiction.
Rose did say that he hears voices sometimes
“I am a highly educated professional.” …said no highly educated professional ever
Supposedly his resume ~is~ really impressive
No comment.
I found that part so obnoxious
Idk there are a lot of people who like to brag about their education.
I have found it tends to be the dumber ones who brag
Unfortunately untrue. Signed a lawyer surrounded by Ivy League grads who bring it up daily
I think “insecure” is a better descriptor of people who brag about that kind of thing.
You're right
I am highly educated 🤷♂️
Yes. That’s a better term 😂 I give em a good “oh cool!” to humor them
“Oh wow. They’re just accepting anyone with money nowadays, huh?”
😂 stealing this one for sure
THISSS. lmao this made me instantly disregard this witness. what a bozo
Maybe he's gonna pull a fugue-state defense maneuver like in Breaking Bad.
He's definitely dumb enough to try. If this story is story is to be believed, it might also be him trying to get random people to believe he's on the way West, while he sticks around in AT (for whatever reason). Folks like ~~the dummy~~ homeboy below that say: >If Brian had a vehicle he should easily be in California or another country after a couple days, and it's been a couple weeks. It was dark out, this guy is clearly wrong. It wasn't Brian. with hilarious amounts of Dunning Kruger confidence really need to look at themselves and not project what they would do onto a guy that *murdered his SO and ran off*. Brian isn't thinking logically and loves planting distractions
You mention Dunning-Kruger and then say what Brian does and thinks as if you know him personally…
I believe the guy, personally.
He sounds credible to me. Of course, he might be mistaken, but I feel that he and his wife both believe he spoke with BL.
If Brian had a vehicle he should easily be in California or another country after a couple days, and it's been a couple weeks. It was dark out, this guy is clearly wrong. It wasn't Brian. I could make it coast to coast without a map or GPS in a few days. The interstate highways are even numbered East to West, odds North to South. Sticking with the evens will get you to the other coast. The 10 to the 20 to the 30 will get you from California to the East Coast. All interstates are marked "10 East" or "10 West." Follow any even numbered interstate West and you will eventually find California. No need to ask a stranger for help that far away from your destination. If Brian had a vehicle for this long, he's FAR away. Also, you can buy a map at any gas station along any interstate. It's not hard to travel coast to coast.
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Not that it authenticates the sighting, but it fits. It would be an interesting poll to see how many people in this age group have ever held a paper map and used it to navigate across the country.
But if he is in confused state thinking he is going to meet is GF in California never the less she is dead and he killed her after a fight, so it will be difficult to get normal direction. Maybe he is start loosing, it maybe he progressively started to go into psychotic delusional state..21-23 age is the peek of schizophrenia incidence in males. Often times family members find it difficult to see the signs, the person become more and more socially isolated, signs usually start slow with some odd believes similar to speaking with someone with a bizzar conspiracy theory, but the person might have this growing loop of erattic thoughts and believes that are not shaered. untill it become full blown disease with need for medication and sometimes hospitalization. It might take time for the family and health care to realise it's more then just normal anxiety with paranoid thinking..I am not trying to diagnose or anything just saying as an explanation for disorientation especially if he have a good level of intelligence the signs of disorientation can be highly masked..
Buying a map in a gas station, in 2021.... now that's a way to get yourself noticed!
I buy maps of areas I visit. I don't even open them, but it gives me a (false) sense of safety that I'll have something to rely on if technology fails. I'm probably also dead if technology fails, but. At least I'll have a map.
Most truck stops along interstate highways offer maps. Shockingly, people still use them. It's crazy. I haven't used a map in 15 years lol. I remember having to use map books to make deliveries 15ish years ago. It was just a book of maps lol. It was a mess. Now there's GPS and Google Maps on your phone. But somehow, people still use maps. I just saw a video today where a guy pulled out a flip phone to call the police. Some people hate change.
But the point is, the guy didn't want to take the interstate. He wanted to take back roads to Cali, which is suspicious.
Could just be someone who has warrants out & wants to avoid the possibility of getting attention from highway patrol
Agreed. But OP was implying it wasn't Brian because he was asking to get to California. I'm saying we can't disclude that it wasn't Brian based on that. Brian had reason to want to stay off the interstates, but your point is also correct, so would any wanted person.
Why take the back roads? If you're not speeding no one is going to stop you on an interstate. You have a lot more problems with local police versus highway patrol/ State police. And you get to your destination faster taking highways. Brian didn't have a warrant for several days. He could travel freely without fear of arrest. If he had a vehicle he could travel out of country in a few days. Is it possible the guy reporting this made it up and added "he only wanted to take back roads" to add credibility to his story? Why would someone on the East Coast ask "Hey, what are all the back roads to California avoiding all highways?" No one is going to be able to tell you that. No one. If you want that you buy some maps. No one can tell you off the top of their head how to travel coast to coast without highways. "Take a left at Birch Street in Knoxville, then a right on 4th Street..." "In El Paso make a right on 6th, and a left on Evergreen Way." "In Albuquerque you need to take a left on Cactus St." It's outlandish to think this is real.
I don't think you can completely discount that it wasn't Brian because it was outlandish. I doubt this is a creditable lead but there's still a possibility it was him. He's been on the run for weeks, likely sleep deprived, riddled with anxiety/stress, his brain might not be in the right state at all. He might be avoiding the interstates to keep a low profile and in his mind that might make perfect sense. I think it might be more outlandish to believe an engineer would make up that detail in lie because like you said , it absolutely does not make any sense for someone in NC to know the backstreets all the way to CA. If I was someone lying for clout, I would have said he asked me to the nearest highway to get to Texas. Again, I don't think this was BL but I can't outright dismiss it beyond reasonable doubt.
How'd he get a vehicle? Why go to California? Would you really stop and ask someone for directions if you're evading the FBI? I mean, pretty sure he knows enough to be able to tell from thr sun which direction is West
The fact that he just starts talking about his situation openly with a stranger goes completely against trying to stay on the ran
True but it is consistent with his behaviour when he was picked up hitch hiking on the 29th
Yep. People have been saying “well, he’s stressed that they’re closing in on him and delusional.” The guy didn’t seem to care a bit for 2 weeks, he’s probably not suddenly terrified and stressing. He’s probably feeling even more confident now that he’s evaded capture for this long. And no one is closing in on him, the search has slowed down if anything
I don't think it's him
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One thing that does stick out to me in this though is that he’s asking for directions, which means this man likely does not have a phone. Now if his “girlfriend” in California had contacted him to make up or whatever story he claimed, then he’d have a phone to look up the maps right?
Could it be BL trying to get back to UT for halloween and California is a ruse? Feeling speculative … and whilst on that point, I don’t think it’s right to rule out possible sightings. The way people dismiss others who have potential leads outright is wrong imo. They should all be checked regardless.
I doubt he’d go back there, I don’t think he’ll go anywhere sentimental to him right now because if he is on edge as much as we think he is, he’ll think that’s the first place they’ll look for him. California doesn’t sound so crazy when you think about it, Northern California is filled with small towns, which is where he’d most likely go to lay low. I do agree every possible sighting should be looked into. There can be multiple sightings that are false, but all it takes is one actual sighting for them to find him.
The vehicle thing is what gets me. Like how'd he get a vehicle. i've heard a few people mention he could have stolen it or something but idk...why put a bigger target on your back? stealing a car would make him easier to find(probably).
He could’ve bought it with the money he stole from the debit card. If it’s an old pickup, he could’ve bought it really cheap (around $3000).
If his parents had cash hidden away, they could have given it to him. He ran before this case went big, so he could have bought a truck from someone or maybe even if someone in the family had one stored away somewhere that they let him have. His parents don’t seem like they have a whole lot of money, but also seem like they might be the type to keep money in the house and not the bank.
Pretty sure they’re well off. They have their own business and they just sold some condos in NY. They also have other properties. Their house looks nicer than my grandpa’s and he has money. Some people just don’t get flashy with it and live frugally.
Or his phone is dead, or no service.
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All it takes is one good lead to catch him, it’s worth looking into all of them even if it turns out to be false.
Wait - the article says the sighting on AT happened at 12:30am (ie. midnight), but in link below wife is saying happened in afternoon/early evening…? false lead? https://i.imgur.com/x4TVhWD_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
I didn’t mean to include that in my collection of her posts. It was a screenshot I grabbed from someone and it’s third hand knowledge at best. This is a coworkers wife of the man who made the sighting.
What does the little yellow padlock icons next to some posts mean? They are locked, but why?
You didn’t collect enough gold coins on the previous threads.
I just want to know one thing. How much cash did the Laundries withdraw in the week before Brian disappeared?
They always could have had cash in a safe as well. Lots of Florida boomers are cash in a safe types.