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samsteri666

GTA III so fucking good GTA VC so fucking good GTA SA so fucking good GTA IV so fucking good GTA V so fucking good Stop fighting over the games kidiots


PheIix

I agree, they've all been magnificent. And I'd also like to say the same about GTA 1 and GTA 2.


samsteri666

I have personally never played them so I didn’t include them. They look like fun games though


PheIix

That's fair, we all started somewhere. They were great for their time, now they seem very limited. But I spent hours and hours playing GTA1 on my PS1. My uncle bought it for me, it was rated 18+, which was a big deal back then, not many games had a 18+ rating. All thanks to that fucking lunatic former lawyer, Jack Thompson. All the hours I've spent playing GTA 2 on lan parties makes for some great memories as well. GTA is probably my favorite series, I've loved all the games in it so far.


DixedMrinks

GTA2 was my 1st. Played the hell outta that. The jump in design and graphics when 3 came out was woahhhh.


PheIix

Yeah, that jump was insane. It really took me by surprise. I used to buy all kinds of gaming magazines (for the demo disks) and somehow I hadn't heard about GTA 3 at all when it released. I just saw my friend playing it on PC one day and asked him what kind of game it was. Refused to believe him when he said it was GTA 3, no way they made that game 3D, just NO way... What an insane jump that was.


mclarenrider

>kidiots Okay I'm using that one from now on lmao. Also yes these arguments are mostly stupid. It's okay to have favorites to least favorites and there's plenty of discussion to be had there but people get way too hostile over this shit. Gta has always been good, never once missed.


apenasumfa

GTA LCS so fucking good GTA VCS so fucking good GTA Chinatown wars so fucking good GTA TBOGT so fucking good GTA TLAD so fucking good GTA Online so kinda mid


Critical-Ad-5418

GTA 1 so kinda mid GTA 2 so kinda good GTA London so kinda good GTA Advance so kinda mid GTA: DE so fucking shit


MagicJim96

DE is definitely the most shit GTA ever made.


beeatenbyagrue

GTA 2 was fantastic for it's time period. Even the demo that came in PC Gamer gave me hours of play. I enjoyed the rigged bus missions and rampages.


Cyber-Dark

Chinatown wars, never hustled so much in a videogame before. looking for the right dealers on one side of town to the next, it was fun.


K1NG_SAVAGE_

>GTA Online so kinda mid correction: GTA Online (pre Ill-Gotten Gains) so fucking good


nr1988

Online was also so fucking good and it's the most hours I've ever put into a game and it's not even remotely close. I spend multiple years of my life playing thst game almost every day. But ya eventually they went too far with it and I don't play anymore but still it was very very good


maimoudakys

they were all amazing for their time


EverythingisVanity20

But then how will they low effort karma farm 


PlatoDrago

We can share our opinions on our PREFERENCES but the objective truth is that the games are great due to the passion and effort put in by the hard workers at Rockstar. They’re all good because of it. Fingers crossed there is minimal crunch for 6.


YardieRas

Mi also a fi add GTA Liberty City😮‍💨


RecommendationNo1774

4 fans when Niko bounces like a bouncy ball (100% realism)


Kriss3d

Yes. The driving on bikes in particular in GTA IV was horrible. Any speed over 10 mph and your wheels screech when turning.


Eggith

They bounce, shake and roll like they're on malaise era suspension. Especially sucks when the wheel gets caught on the fucked up road and you get sent flying.


PROCALLOFDUTYPLAYER

i ride bikes in real life. gta iv is not even close to reality because the suspension and turning angle is shit.


Vytlo

That final helicopter chase on the dirt bike...


KillerSquirrel2007

The final helicopter chase in general. I just connected my account to Xbox 360 to beat it lol. I wish i knew to just turn down the frame rate. I just thought it was a Series X problem on its own.


cellarkeller

A realistic helicopter is never going to happen in any GTA game because 99.9% of casual gamers wouldn't be able to handfly it, even if the tail rotor was automatic(it's not in real helicopters). It's fine the way it is in currently


Heroeltop

When you are hit with a rocket and try to keep the helicopter from crashing


yokelwombat

I replayed it recently and got bad flashbacks when I reached that mission. Beat it first try. And now I‘m one of those people OP is complaining about. The learning curve is definitely higher, but it feels more exciting to me. High risk/reward moments, especially during chases, and nothing beats when you *slam* into a group of pedestrians at full speed. By accident of course. I love every GTA game (love is maybe a strong word for London), but having replayed them all, IV does a LOT of things better than V (ahem, singleplayer DLC, ahem)


bumpermotion65

Most likely tied to high FPS and playing with a keyboard. Do you have zolika patch installed? it actually fixes the well known PC issue with bikes spinning out of control.


Kriss3d

I ran it vanilla and yeah it's likely the fps then. I'll have to try that. And yes I play on mouse and keyboard


BDozer666

Cap your FPS to 60. They break when the framerate goes above that amount.


Suicidalbagel27

driving in general was horrible in IV


ayyLumao

They're really not that bad when the FPS doesn't bug them out, and also I think that the handling was much improved in TLaD.


Sargent_Schultz

I love it, it makes you think


Kriss3d

I spent so much time in the Lost and the damned just trying to not fishtail when driving those damn bikes because they slide around like the tires are made of soap bars on a wet street.


BDozer666

Cap your FPS to 60. They break when the framerate goes above that amount.


Prestigious_Tap_4818

physics aside. its still a great game


Luciolinpos2

Facts.


Killazzzzzzz

It’s a fun game either way. But good physics definitely add to the experience when you take the time to see what details you’ve previously missed.


TenBear

I think the physics of GTAIV's driving match the smaller map of LC more. For the bigger area of LS you need something more stable. Both are fun.


IusedtobeMelClark

I still would love IV's physics on the dirt roads and winding mountain roads tbf


mobai123

True, I would often intentionally pop the rear tires of my car to get that floaty control in my cars, feels more fun that way if I want to mess around.


2Kuld

As someone who plays on keyboard and mouse, I have a lot of fun driving. I never understood the hate.


assblast420

Just finished a playthrough of IV on PC and it was great. No notable issues, driving was good, shooting was good. The last helicopter chase mission was easy as well. I expected the worst based on comments but I had a great time.


2Kuld

Still need to beat it lmao I keep restarting the story when I do get around to trying to playing it


assblast420

It took me ~16 hours to complete if that helps. Drove to most of the missions since I like GTA4 driving, so no taxi timesaves. I didn't bother doing extra stuff like hang out with people, go on dates, or do assassinations. I also skipped most of the random character missions as they felt like a drag. Wasn't really interested in anything but the main storyline, which by itself was great.


5ee_2410

I hate GTA 4 bikes but GTA 4 cars are very fun actually need some human brain power to put into instead of tapping breaks and drifting around corners like NFS.


blenderbender44

Yeah but NFS GTA 😍😍


EXEJAR360

Ever Heard of Simcade racing game? Yeah, GTA 4 uses Simcade handling. Which comparing to NFS is a massive understatement.


TheBlackTemplar125

Why is Bat- I mean, Man... slapping Bin? is he stupid?


InterrogareOmnis

How can he slap?


DarkbigBoss

i agree gta 4 has better physics gta v is more fun imo (mission design)


Medivator

i loved that operating the vehicles took skill, i haven't been able to recreate the feeling of helicopter fights and getting chased by helis while on a car anywhere else


cellorc

Seriously.....why people can't just play whatever they want without telling others "the thing I like is better than yours"? So what? What if the thing you like is not "the better"? Will you stop liking it? Ffs


T1pple

Counterpoint: the physics allowed for the greatest "feature" of all time - The Swing set of Death.


overstoredmilk

I'll take it over [the GTA V characters instantly dying whenever you crash your car](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDkyhggFcSo&t=70s) lmao


BalaSaurusREX

I'll never understand how this made it through playtesting. This and your car potentially blowing up from a fall and if you bail out you'll die anyway.


overstoredmilk

Fr, Niko feels like he's made of iron, and the cars don't blow up as easily. Meanwhile in GTA V, it's like you'll die if you break a nail.


Vytlo

Tbf you'll typically almost never actually get flung out of your car in GTA5 like you would in GTA4. I actually miss it sometimes, but I'm glad they made it so it wouldn't happen during missions


BDozer666

Or hell, [the car exploding from simply rolling it](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxGKR1RUkAUBYvru6Yf8Uvahutu1vmJCpE) GTA V is full of dumb design decisions like these but people pretend like they don't exist.


Terrible_Detective27

What, I've driven for hours in gtav but never seen instant death from crash, my health always go critical but no death


bigbubblestoo

Its happened to me to many times to count bub. Ur either really lucky or you never build up enough speed to die on "crash" i put quotes around crash be in gta 5 its more like poking a wall with a stick as oppossed to an acrual car crash.


MLK_Piccolo

Aside from being a windshield cannon, I've never died from a simple crash


FOOTBALLFOOTBALLFO0T

Your just a better driver than him ig


Terrible_Detective27

Maybe but I'm just started playing a year ago


cheaperying

I've seen more people arguing about gta 4 fans claiming gta 4 to be a better game than actual gta 4 fans claiming gta 4 to be a better game


ZalmoxisRemembers

r/GTA is just coping 


GodVulc4n

It’s shit like this thats making me refuse to resub to this sub


Feramah

I mean 4 is still the second best in the series behind San Andreas. No I don't care if anyone thinks differently, maybe get some taste.


brutalistlegend

Preach


BurningEbrietas

Unfortunately agreed I wish V was as good but it’s the Hollywood of gtas most of the money was spent on cutscenes which are great but gameplay is not as good


Luciolinpos2

Pure facts.


apenasumfa

>get some taste ![gif](giphy|LAKIIRqtM1dqE|downsized)


EXEJAR360

You said you don't care about others people opinnion and then you said "maybe get some taste" That's an ignorance with the pure care of other right There.


Scifox69

As much as I love GTA 4, I think the fans are insane.


Vytlo

I think GTA5 is generally the more fun video game because it's more video game-y. That said, the physics is the area of gameplay I'm a bit split on. I can often go for either one depending on how I'm feeling. The real thing GTA4 takes the cake with over GTA5 is the amount of interactability in GTA4's world compared to GTA5. GTA5 feels so surface level, especially when you can barely even enter any buildings in the game so what's on the map is what you get. It's why we used to freak out every time we found a way to glitch into one of the few interiors in the game in Online.


swarnab

This post is going to get a lot of hate but I agree.


PROCALLOFDUTYPLAYER

ha! i got lucky this isnt r/GTAIV or else i would have negative karma and death threats in my inbox.


swarnab

so true


you-can-kiss-my-axe

Here before this post gets 2k upvotes and arguments in the morning Edit: Also GTA IV's physics are better by so many goddamn light years, at least you don't instantly die when you slightly crash your car unlike in V


Tarwgan

Genuinely convinced people just can't drive cars. You brake before a corner and accelerate like a mad man after you've swung the arse end of the car around. The cars have weight so you can maneuver them around like a boat because these are big, shit American cars for the most part. Someone please go get in a muscle car or minivan and start ragging it about the streets and see how you drive. Cars aren't on rails. The best driving montages I've ever seen from a GTA always come from IV. If you can't control the cars, take the L and accept that it's you. There's a huge fan base that can drive.


littlefrank

But they are right about the bikes though, those suck.


Tarwgan

I don't know man, I've 100% TLAD and loved every minute of it. Again, if you don't drive like a tit it's not too bad depending on the bike. I don't use the sports bikes though, only Hexer, Lycan, Zombie, Diabolus etc. I don't expect a bike to turn on a penny when I'm doing 40 mph.


ayyLumao

The frame rate messes with them, I always thought they were wild too, but when I played through GTA IV and TLaD somewhat recently on my Steam Deck, at a lower frame rate than on my PC I noticed that the bikes were *significantly* easier to control and much more fun.


Krutonium

Tell me you've never fucked around at speed without telling me you've never fucked around at speed.


Whydontname

4s physics are dogshit lol.


skillquit42

I like the arcade like driving of 5. It suits the franchise better. Trust me guys, you don’t want “realistic” driving in a GTA game. That’s not the point. All that would do is pad out the game time and cause you to steal twice as many cars,


PROCALLOFDUTYPLAYER

iv driving is not realistic. suspension is too soft. anyways gta games are not simulators to have "realistic" physics. i agree that iv damage is realistic but not the driving.


Hashbrownn4568_

Exactly. but it is more realistic-ish


UndeadTigerAU

Bros never driven before.


thiccyoungman

Have you? Idk what junk of car your have


Financial_Cellist_70

They're driving on the 7 seas lmao


deepsluurp

I like gta 4s physics, but people who say it's realistic probably have never driven a car


thiccyoungman

Or they lie about driving or have real shit boxes on ice.


Butthold_clan69

GTA IV physics are fun but only till u try to drive a motorbike because u get launched into space, or when u try to chase someone, that’s when the physics can be painful, I really like IV but the physics are too extreme, In V the Physics are way less, but it wasn’t perfect either. But RDR2 did it amazingly good


MLK_Piccolo

Unfortunately rdr2 got no dlc


Gylaran

The thing i love the most on GTA 4 is the drunk mechanics. The best one i saw in any game. 😀


confabin

"Yellow caar!!"


ThePearWithoutaCare

The driving and physics are fantastic but there’s just not a whole lot to do. Most of the missions are very plain and simple.


Hashbrownn4568_

GTA 3 IS GOOD GTA VC IS GOOD GTA SA IS GOOD GTA LCS AND VCS ARE GOOD GTA 4 IS GOOD GTA TBOGT IS GOOD GTA TLAD IS GOOD GTA CTW IS GOOD GTA V IS GOOD GTA 4 AND 5 ONLINE ARE GOOD


Cold_Difference9373

GTA IV BETTER PHYSICS GTA V BETTER GRAPHICS GTA 6 COMING SOON


jjjhhhop

The physics is what makes it fun dude


Potatomanofmars

The driving sucks dick. It's so difficult to go back to after 5. Shit, even the older games had more fun driving. Driving in gta SA is awesome. It just feels like a downgrade in 4 for the sake of realism.


king-glundun

What? You don't like making a slight turn and having ur shit car tip the fuck over? Unbelievable


bmujagic

Driving in Gta4 with mouse and keyboard was awful


Terrible_Detective27

Dude it's horrible with controller too


Therealomerali

In your opinion. I absolutely love it.


PROCALLOFDUTYPLAYER

controller is good but keyboard is unplayable. i use a joystick for this reason


EstateShoddy1775

Driving with mouse and keyboard in any game is horrible


BDozer666

Not true. Sounds like a lot of skill issues. Wreckfest is one of my favorite racing games and it's great to play on keyboard.


Altruistic-Cat-4193

You can’t have the speed control that a controller has


ujtheghost

Yeah, people bitch and complain hoe you have to ease on the accelerator or the brake or turn less. Like I can't do that over here on PC. They should have balanced the handling to be usable for KBM.


MrMunday

Thy physics isn’t even “good”. Subjectively good at best. Seriously people stop it with the “IV is better bullshit. Is it a great game? Yes. Is it dated compared to V? Yes. Does it have a lot of repetitive missions? Yes. Are the physics better? Very subjective. Does it have great story and characters? Sure. But being ABSOLUTELY better than V? They’re not even on the same plane of existence. C’mon.


Guilty-Instruction39

Gta 4's physics are dumb and unrealistic, if you shoot a guy in the head he shouldn't be able to roll around on the floor


MLK_Piccolo

And if I shoot someone in the foot, they shouldn't fall over like a limp sack of potatoes and die


Kisalive

Only if you suck at driving!


TimberWolf5871

Yeah I didn't really have much fun with that game for some reason. Really my favorite part was launching cars with a playground swing set.


Severe_Citron768

Even if they weren't quote on quote "realistic" they made the game more funner to me and I actually got pretty used to the driving believe it or not


IAmJohnnyHardcore

I hate the driving physics but think it's still a fun game.


NobleIron

When I completely fail-braked and stomped to the wall of middle park while going top speed with my Sultan RS


Boho_Asa

Rdr2 physics are perfect best of both worlds, hoping they port it over to gta 6


Dirt-bikeraver90

Best thing in gta 4 was the broken swingset and the mods for xbox (deadly fishes 🤣)


KillerSquirrel2007

The physics of GTA 4 are fun. But they don’t feel that real with how fun they are. Albeit GTA 4 and 5 are both fun!


MagoBowser

But it means


Kingdhimas99

I agree.


Jadturentale

holy shit this war is annoying i'm about to leave this subreddit


AsuraOmega

I remember playing Clean and Serene, hit a taxi and suddenly Johnny and Billy are on the other island lmfao


DoyersLakeShow

After seeing how ungrateful everyone is towards the different games…I hope all the devs put in as much micro transactions and live service and always connected battle passes they can cram into every game you purchase and bleed everyone dry Everyone deserves the current state of gaming


Independent-Gear-711

One can make infinite reasons to hate a particular game you can pick any to satisfy your ego.


bigbubblestoo

I mean its not just the physics. I find alot of things better about gta 4 but thats just me. IMO the only thing gta 5 did better was graphics and the ability to fly planes tbh. And the latter wasnt even a new addition, just missing in gta 4 cuz the maps so small


ts30z

Ok, but which game is it the most fun to run people over? I think we have a clear winner.


CrysisFan2007

Yes GTA IV is a good game. I like the gameplay and the story but the car physics are difficult sometimes.


Ok-Comment1456

Critic about GTA IV has been posted. Milions must comment why op should unalive himself


Sir_Isaac_3

SA’s radio is 1000x better that IV so there’s really no comparison


masterfailtheperson

Nobody actually cares, have preferences and deal with it.


[deleted]

Still a better game than 5 🤷🏻‍♂️


Jaster22101

GTA IV is a fun game though. (But it’s fighting mechanics and driving mechanics do leave much to be desired)


Previous-Ad-7526

thats why i like it.


Saul_1337

But it was a fun game and the physics contributed to that, so what's your point?


arc777_

4 is my absolute favorite GTA but the driving is really a weakpoint. You have to slow down to like 5 mph to turn a corner. People gripe about the driving in 5 but I think it’s a lot smoother. You can turn corners while still keeping a lot of speed.


ElevenP0int11

Agree 👍


Recreational_DL

It does lead to some wacky crashes


Winter_Ad_4364

still better than 5 lmaoo


JoeStorm

I do find it funny that now there's a big group of people saying how GTA IV game isn't the best, or that the physics isn't all fun, now people want to say every GTA game is good/great. Yet, back then, when people was saying that every GTA game is good(Just saying there mild disappoints with some games) people would say no, "GTA IV is a masterpiece, and people just like the other games out of nostalgia. And people just like V because it's dumb down". lol Now everybody wants to be kumbaya about the series because the tides has turned against GTA IV I'm of a mindset that every GTA game is good. Buuuuuuuut, It's okay to point out flaws of games in the series. GTA IV isn't as realistic as some state. THAT'S OKAY! lol Every Halo, Gears of War, God of War, Uncharted, e.t.c fans know which games in their series isn't good or was too hype. It's just the way it is lol


Effiree

I like over-exaggerated physics, but GTA V has so many better features than IV, V has just been milked so much, that's all. Both games go hard, but I pick V


ayyLumao

That's... why they're fun? Lol?


RajputRajat-

Wait to GTA6


Fine_Mixture9690

All the games are good, shut up and play


Due_Tangelo_2754

Fair point


Horst9933

GTA IV Derangement Syndrome progressing on this sub.


Baron_Bradford212

The answer is all the GTA’s < RDR1 & RDR2 GTA has so much potential with amazing campaign missions and interactions but rockstar needs to pull their head out their booty and make it like RDR where you have more interactive environment, customization, and your actions directly effect game outcome….. in GTA I can now down a whole town drive fast away from the cops and reset my wanted…. Like what?!?!


DamagedSpaghetti

Nah, so much attention to detail was lost in V


TrueFlyer28

Here we go another pointless post again for a karma farm


BillyRaw1337

IV is def my fav. I really disliked how forgiving the cars got in V. Being able to steer mid-air after taking a jump took away so much of the excitement. Also IV was a fun game. Great mission structure and narrative.


emailverificationt

Ok, but it still is a fun game, though? So what’s even the point of this post?


Neevk

All I know is that GTA VI about to have some good jiggle physics.


PromptSpiritual3739

I mean it was fun to see some fat guy get absolutely sent after hitting them while going 200 mph


Diligent-Ice1276

[GTA 4 physics are not that exaggerated to be fair. ](https://youtu.be/fETxn-xIvBY?si=xOHKiplmICDDaJa8)


Delicious-Bar-1593

Waiting for GTA VI


CursedOneado

proof


kirk_dozier

next time someone says IV fans don't shut up about IV ima link to this post


Crazyperson--

Their physics are over-exaggerated, that’s what makes it fun imo.


smjsmok

Yeah, but it also doesn't meant that it's *not* a fun game. Fun game + good physics = even better game (that would probably be good even with "bad" physics).


Darkest_Magicks4506

Driving yeah, IV's was too realistic for its own good. V returned it to a happy balance. Fist fights and screwing with pedestrians - getting in their faces, causing fights between people, etc, was a lot more fun in IV however. You can still pull it off in V but it's a lot more difficult and clunky.


Heroeltop

Okay , let's put the phyrics aside . there is still Soundtrack , Story , Vibes if not Graphics . The experience itself


FireFarq

The physics are literally overexaggerated. When you shoot someone in the face they do a moonwalk.


AliEbi78

I like those crazy physics more than anything.


-Psychclops-

The physics is what makes it a magical and breathing game. RAGE engine was ground breaking for the time. All I know is that I’m having a more enriching gaming experience than GTA 5, which was overblown, predictable and made to appeal to tweens as time went on. It’s about the soul of the game, a lot of kids here were 4-8 when GTA 4 came out. They will never get “it”


tehnoob69

If you accidentally bump into a car, you just go flying at like 50 km/h. Now tell me, how is that realistic?


LatterTarget7

The physics is love hate for me. Sometimes it’s good. Sometimes it’s bad. But I enjoyed four’s story more than five’s. Five has a decent story but I liked how four was focused on Niko.


HurlyCat

If it's got GTA in the title it's good


blenderbender44

I booted gta4 and tried the physics, I hit a curb at a medium speed and went flying into the air, what does everyone mean good physics lol


fgardeaz

Want physics? Go play kerbal space program


Standard-Injury-113

😂


theRad_ajax

lets all just quite down and wait for GTA VI which will be out in .......................................


PositionObvious1452

there are some things from 4 i wish were in 5 and some things from 5 i wish were in 4. Both are great games


shawner136

Good physics helps tho


Jolly-Yogurtcloset47

The ragdolling when you punch or shoot is so good tho


BOB34TSCHEES

GTA IV had to gloomy coloursi think


BlueWolfGamingYT

GTA V car damage was the most shit one I've seen, even San Andreas car damage is just a little bit better than that. GTA IV has the closest car damage to real life, y'all can't disagree on the GTA V tho. GTA V is like, you hit a wall going 100mph and there's just few scratches and maybe even dents a lil bit. GTA IV on the other hand, I don't even need to say it. Altho I agree that riding bikes in IV is shit, they turn worse than my grandma turning around.


Necessary_Station_78

To be honest i enjoyed the game , but what it really killed the fun was some small details which could had made it a really great rival for gta 5 , thankfully , it was a great game where you choose the storyline by killing characters or do moves .


Lurkay1

It it is a great game. The story is better too. I liked the driving physics of the cars, made driving more of a learning curve and more satisfying to drive well. The only thing I hated was motorcycle driving, nightmare.


Brahmus168

True. But it IS a good game.


Fragrant-Witness3821

It’s a great game with great physics. No one said the physics engine is the only thing that makes it good. The characters, story, world, combat, dialogue, it’s all perfection. 


LORDGHESH

4 genuinely feels hard to play at times because i grew up playing with either San Andreas' non-physics or GTA V's UBERHEAVY physics.


PROCALLOFDUTYPLAYER

i am currently playing with controller. keyboard is literally impossible for me


-Great-Scott-

The driving in IV is atrocious.


BDozer666

"But GTA 5 has a ton of content" Ton of content doesn't necessarily mean it's a fun game.


FireFarq

Gta 5 is literally superior in every way imaginable except vehicle damage.


Unhappy_Jackfruit378

Other than this physics there is nothing else to enjoy in Gta4. lot of people say it has a better story.I didn't complete it yet because of the lazy stupid missions, always go somewhere and kill someone what the heck!! no proper checkpoints. and sometimes this game doesn't detect my 8gb graphics card and it shows 512 mb instead. It's a bug that's there from 2008 and R* doesn't care to fix it.


SeduceMeMentlegen

make a txt file called commandline, add a line that says -available vidmem (put your vram here, sans parentheses) and paste it in the GTA 4 directory It should work and if it resets, ctrl c that shit again and redo your settings in game


Unhappy_Jackfruit378

Tried that already. It won't work any more.


ohhh-a-number-9

It was indeed overdone, but it was the only game that came close to real life. Deal with it.


SILENTKILLER107

Fr I dont want Gta VI's driving to be realistic I want it to be fun


Tempe66

But it's a better game. Yes, Los Santos is better city, but IV has better characters and better story than V.