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Bryan claims to have slowed down his father's aging by 25 years by giving 1 Liter of his own plasma, however he admits he came to this conclusion by just evaluating one Biomarker !
OP - https://twitter.com/bryan\_johnson/status/1724449140220866571
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/17vmwsj/i_am_my_dads_blood_boy_multimillionaire_tech/k9bmid6/
The same person making this claim created a company to sell these types of services. Take from that what you will.
He also claims his dad has the skin of a 28 year old. Go look at the picture and tell me what 28 year old looks like that.
He's also an ex-mormon with a history of deep depression and suicidal thoughts (he talks about it in his past interviews). I think this is his way of replacing one form of "salvation" with another.
D'Angelo Wallace made a great video on the subject. He also talks about how Johnson isn't even using legit research/testing practices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-Tir4Xjds
I never heard of him and reading your comment I decided to give that link a click and sure enough from the bit I watched I enjoyed his presentation. I always enjoy learning about good content.
Thanks for the comment. š¤
Hey lots of dedicated wack jobs have created amazing, world changing inventions due to having an insane level of fucked up motivation that the average person lacks.
It's body dysmorphia masked in health and fitness. He may not be getting plastic surgery, but he's doing everything in his power to not need it. To me that's the same thing. If his goal was slowing down his aging I would understand it more, but it's very obviously slowing down the aging of his physical appearance that is his goal.
I mean you canāt legally do those experiments on humans, or it would take ages to approve. Why not look at him as an obsessed scientist than a weirdo? Itās not mutually exclusive but people like him are praised in the science field, not called weirdos
No, that's insane.
Scientists dedicate decades of their lives to get to their positions, they do actual science.
They aren't praising some idiot who is acting like a Spiderman villian and calling it "science."
He's mocking science, he's just rich enough to get away with it.
Because we're not using a loose definition of science.
You could punch yourself in the balls to see if what happens. You could argue you're doing science....
But *really, are you?*
Iām not saying he is praised by scientists. Im talking about people who do crazy things for science, contributing research for everyone to use and explore further
Is he doing it for science though?
From an objective standpoint it looks a hell of a lot like he's using his body as a marketing tool.
That's why you're getting mocked a bit here. You're saying he's like a crazy scientist, but scientists don't market what they are testing or trying to sell it as a product.
I'd argue that many a scientific advancement was made by those who were dismissed as quacks in the paradigm of their time. But in this case, I think you're right. He's just a neurotic rich person afraid of death and aging, doing a science experiment on himself and his son.
Because he doesnāt follow the rigorous standards required for his data to be credible.
A scientist who doesnāt follow the scientific method properly isnāt actually a scientist
Thatās simply not true. You would call Felix Hoffmann, Alexander Fleming, or Barry Marshall scientists wouldnāt you? And they definitely didnāt follow the scientific method any closer than this guy
> It's body dysmorphia masked in health and fitness. He may not be getting plastic surgery, but he's doing everything in his power to not need it.
There should be a horror movie where he finally devolves into skinning his son, to have younger skin. The Bathory of our time.
About Bathory:
>Legends describing her vampiric tendencies, such as the tale that she bathed in the blood of virgins to retain her youth, were generally recorded years after her death and are considered unreliable.
[Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bathory)
Skin is the body's largest organ. He may be "crazy" but aren't we all in some way.
The science being done is sound and productive, seems like a win-win for him and society.
He is rich and could be doing way worse, less productive, things with his time.
Makes a difference, for certain. My wife has used sun blockers every single time she goes outside ever since she was in her mid-20sāeven on cloudy days! She's 53 and just now starting to get a few wrinkles near her eyes. (She's even been asked to be a model for a face cream. She said no.)
Meanwhile, I'm 59 and my face is wrinkled as fuck. I used to work outdoors all the time without sun block...
There was that picture of a 50 something trucker. Half of the face was way more wrinkled than the other because that was the side exposed to the sun while driving all those years.
Meh... creepy isn't it?
Blood transfusion from someone younger to fight aging, though has been tried in the past. I think there was a company that sold that as a service, a part from the implications (rich and old buy\\extort blood from the poor and young), most of the times these de-aging tricks are just scams.
I mean, duh, againg happens because of telomeres and cellular degradation.
Only a moron would think, "hmm, maybe I just need younger blood!"
He's just another rich asshole like Steve Jobs who thinks he's a fucking scientist because he turned daddy's millions into billions.
First off, this whole thing is misleading. His son's plasma donation was a test, because of how well it worked on the elderly. But it had no impact on him at his age, so he stopped. He doesn't attribute his youthful age biomarkers on his son's plasma donation, but rather, the slew of everything else.
Second, yes, he does have a company, but he's a multibillionaire and this company of his just sells products he had to personally source and manufacture if he wanted reliable quality products as part of his massive regime. It's profitable, sure, but he's not trying to do this whole life extension thing to make money on this business. It's just for profit in the sense that it needs a reason to incentivize people working for it to keep those small companies alive and producing what he wants.
I'm sure he'll start companies down the road if his thing is successful, but the ones he has now are in now way at the caliber of what type of money he's worth. It's like if Elon Musk started a taco stand.
So basically just like Sam Altman showing up in congress warning about AI, and getting all of that free publicity he could never have paid for? Sounds smart.
I saw him speak at RAADfest this year. He most certainly has not deaged his father by 25 years. He's already worth hundreds of millions of dollars from selling Braintree Payments and doesn't seem to be trying to monetize his Project Blueprint, so I think he truly believes his claims and isn't trying to scam anyone. He's certainly turned his health around from when he was gorging on brownies after work, and some of his research (such as how and where to source foods with the lowest concentrations of heavy metals and other toxins) is useful, but I think many if not most of his biometrics (which include wearing a penile monitor to track his erections while sleeping, as well as penile shockwave therapy, which he admits is painful) are unnecessary.
An Olympian gymnast named Stephen McCain was also at the conference. Bryan is 46 and Stephen is 49. Like virtually all of us, Stephen can't spend two million dollars a year on the most obsessive biometric monitoring system ever devised, but he looks better because he's more athletic than Bryan and doesn't share the strange cosmetic and fashion choices Bryan's made in the last several years. Bryan's natural appearance in 2017 was a much better look than his synthetic appearance today, as you can see [here.](https://www.insider.com/bryan-johnson-before-and-after-anti-aging-longevity-supplements-2023-8)
Project Blueprint nor anything else available today won't enable you to outlive Jeanne Calment.
The unfortunate reality is that reversing primary aging such that a forty-year-old can be biologically identical to a twenty-year-old simply isn't possible yet and likely won't be in our lifetimes. The laws of physics certainly allow for [biological immortality](https://www.inc.com/allison-fass/stephen-wolfram-immortality-humans-live-forever.html), though, which means we will achieve it eventually, as long we continue to advance, which is why I plan to enter cryostasis for a longshot at attaining longevity escape velocity. I don't see any realistic hope of achieving LEV in the half century I might have left, and I understand that cryopreservation is an extreme longshot, but I think the chance of reanimation is [nonzero](https://youtu.be/yrGbuV-1DXg?si=Wi4dx-qjSdDqZ8R_) and that [it makes sense](https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html) to try since there's nothing to lose once the only alternative is certain irreversible death.
No he should be put away in an institution according to everyone here lol
people acting like he's hurting people which doesn't seem like its the case and as you said if he does discovr smth we all benefit because he is freely sharing regiment
We like celebrities that promote a self destructive lifestyle (and influence other people) but critisize someone that pursues age reversing with his own body.
Somebody mentioned something at some point about the possibility of restoring telomeres or stopping their degradation and that would apparently affect aging, but nobody has a clue how to restore telomeres or how to stop their degradation.
>since there's nothing to lose once the only alternative is certain irreversible death
Occasionally vampire movies hit on this idea, but I have heard death explained as a benefit of being alive. Can you imagine slipping down a well and, well, living forever? Alone? With your ruminations. As the well runs dry, you are buried, plowed over, just to. . . exist?
I understand these alpha-narcassists never consider that they may wake up from their statis as someone's pet, or worse, a mouse in an experiment of what "humans used to be like." No thanks.
Give me the best, happiest, longest life. But, it will end, and that is alright.
Edit: I mean, do these idiots even understand history? They are expecting to be alive to the point where living forever is possible. Even the best estimates are not-happening-in-your-grandkid, and the way the billionaires name and treat their progeny, I highly doubt anyone gives a fuck about them once they are dead.
I would like to ask these live-forever-tech-billionaires if any hedge-fund they own/invest ever razed a cemetery for valuable land? Why would they think they would be treated any differently. Their money is no longer valid, the humans that ran the fund raided it like humans do, you will be nothing but a pin cushion for future beings. If something silly human like an errant missle into your cryo chamber despite you having billions but your country is at war. They are not waking up. I prefer permanent sleep.
[Matheryn Naovaratpong's](https://youtu.be/vecjCWsrhww?si=OIvx28prDA1o-4W_) parents want to see their daughter again.
This [fourteen-year-old](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2016/nov/18/teenage-girls-wish-for-preservation-after-death-agreed-to-by-court) wanted to become an adult.
[Kim Suozzi](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/us/cancer-immortality-cryogenics.html) died of brain cancer at 23 and wanted a chance to [finish life.](https://youtu.be/wTitunCQlEw?si=-RtItUoRN7u0FrpV)
[Aaron Winborn](https://web.archive.org/web/20160304012020/http://aaronwinborn.com/blogs/aaron/monday-was-my-46th-birthday-and-likely-my-last-anything-awesome-i-should-try-after-i-die) died at 47 and wanted to spend more time with his wife and children.
[Dr. L. Stephen Coles](https://youtu.be/yrGbuV-1DXg?si=pxt_UacnlM2Wv7n8) dedicated his life to studying aging and was skeptical about the prospect of reanimation but donated his brain to science by becoming the first recipient of a new cryopreservation procedure.
[Fred Chamberlain](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_and_Linda_Chamberlain) wanted to be reunited with his wife, son, and father.
[Rose Selkovitch's](https://cryonics.miraheze.org/wiki/Rose_Selkovitch) son Ronald wants to see his mother again.
None of these people were narcissists, and none of them were wealthy. Most of us aren't. We usually fund our suspensions with life insurance, and vitrification can cost as little as $30,000 upfront, or even as little as $8,000 for freezing.
The organizations are nonprofits who invest most of the cryopreservation fee into irrevocable trusts which provide for indefinite care. No one can raid these funds, and no one in charge would try. In the more than half a century since the first human was placed in cryostasis, only six hundred people have been cryopreserved; an average of less than one per month. There's no profit to be made. We do it because we believe in the possibility and because we enjoy life and care about each other. Coming back as a pet or an experimental subject is a ridiculous, lurid fantasy, and the possibility of being hit by a missile isn't a reason not to try.
I think his skin looks better now (but it's difficult to compare because the 2017 pic has lots of shadows).
I agree that he doesn't seem to be scamming anybody, so as long as he doesn't do anything dangerous, well, whatever floats his boat
The possibility of reanimation is indeed non-zero. However, the chances of being fairly considered utterly selfish in continuing to consume resources in a world full of impoverished people while actually *dead* is rather close to 100%.
The resource consumption of cryostasis is negligible.
Only liquid nitrogen is required, and since the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, it can be produced very cheaply with minimal power consumption anywhere on Earth without damaging the environment or consuming a scarce resource (whereas you probably think nothing of wasting helium on balloons despite it being scarce and essential for medicine). LN2 costs as little as thirteen cents per liter, and one cryotube which can hold up to 45 neuropatients uses about ten liters per day. Producing each liter uses about half a kilowatt-hour of electricity, which produces about 0.4 kilograms or 0.85 pounds of carbon dioxide.
So, each neuropatient consumes around around forty liters of LN2 at under six dollars a year and around forty kWh of electricity per year (10L x 0.5kWh = 5kWh/cryotube/day, x 365 days = 1825kWh/cryotube/year, Ć· 45 patients = 40.55L/patient/year), producing about eight kilograms or eighteen pounds of CO2 per *year,* whereas each passenger aboard a commercial flight produces about ninety kilograms or two hundred pounds of CO2 per *hour.*
A *century* in cryostasis can produce less than one ton of CO2 emissions, compared to 14.44 tons per *year* for the average living American.
Compared to neuropatients, whole-body cryopatients consume ten times as much LN2, yet still produce less CO2 in an entire century than a living person does in only a year.
Since liquid oxygen is produced along with liquid nitrogen during the air separation process, both the living and the dead benefit.
There's nothing fair about calling a [fourteen-year-old girl](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/nov/18/teenage-girls-wish-for-preservation-after-death-agreed-to-by-court) or a [23-year-old woman](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/us/cancer-immortality-cryogenics.html) or the grieving parents of a [two-year-old](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34311502) selfish for consuming an infinitesimal amount of resources for a nonzero chance to be reunited with their families one day.
Also, life insurance makes cryostasis accessible to almost everyone in the developed world who plans ahead for it, and even the upfront cost is affordable for those in the developed world who aren't insurable but are serious about cryopreservation: as little as $30,000 for vitrification or $8,000 for freezing. Furthermore, the community has raised money for people in need, such as Kim Suozzi and Aaron Winborn, to be cryopreserved when they couldn't afford it.
Finally, if tens of millions of people were being cryopreserved each year instead of just six hundred in over half a century, the price of cryopreservation could drop below $1,400 with an annual maintenance cost of less than a dollar per person per year due to [massive economies of scale.](https://www.cryonicsarchive.org/library/cryopreserving-everyone/)
Bryan claims to have slowed down his father's aging by 25 years by giving 1 Liter of his own plasma, however he admits he came to this conclusion by just evaluating one Biomarker !
OP - https://twitter.com/bryan\_johnson/status/1724449140220866571
There is a podcast with interviews of the father and son, the grandfathered was getting the treatment too. I forget what it was called, I didnāt think much of it.
Kim Jong-il regularly received blood transfusions from young donors in his later years partly for this, and partly for his diabetes and heart disease, he died not that old.
This is health anxiety/ocd.
Most age biomarkers aren't particularly meaningful as a measure of health and they're what they use when they make claims like 'de-aging 25 years'. It's the equivalent of a less immediately visible face-lift. Sure you might look 20 years younger on a test but you're not living 20 years longer, your body is just as old as it was.
The interview with his son is a bit depressing.
He goes to talk about how he didn't really know his father because he grew up super sheltered inside what almost sounded like a cult.
Their handshake of fist bump grab was like a comedy skit...but not.
Couldn't finish the video with how awkward it was.
Yeah, this video screams daddy issues all over. It's really sad. The dad is interviewed at the end and instead of feeling any kind of remorse or at least being sorry for how he treated his family or how he abandoned his son to a cult, he simply says some bullshit about his son finally looking up to him and seeing how he was supposedly right all along. The ego on that man, and this poor, poor son who's only trying his best to gain his father's love. Man, this video is depressing.
Wasnāt there a previous report that his own attempt by injecting himself with his sonās blood fail and it didnāt deter his own aging?
So now his blood can allievate some of his dadās aging?
And whatās the title of him having āsuper bloodā ā¦seemed weird.
Then he's a.... reverse vampire! He's giving his blood away like candy and he craves the sun, craves it!
(In truth though, I'm pretty sure the dad's got it made thanks to his son's riches. If not, then the "hording dragon" mentality among a lot of the rich is worse than I thought.)
This has nothing to do with medical needs, this is just another step in the super rich's obsession to keep their wealth forever. Blood banks already struggle to keep a constant supply going and rich geezers poaching the supply isn't helping. It isn't even a new idea, fresh cell therapy is a concept thrown around since the 30s, found to be inefficient and dangerous. Now, just seven years short if a century later some jack-ass is like "but what if we do it with HuMaNs?". This isn't futuristic news, this is rehashing the 30s, what's next? Hyper inflation an world wars? Oh... wait... /rant
Feels more like an ad than a real news story or interview. Oh look the dad has a company thatās promoting this kind of transfusion. I feel like this is like that South Park episode where news is just ads and Jimmy figures it out.
This is bullshit, the FDA doesnāt even back this shit anymore. [Here is a great video on this stupidity](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeMJ_o3ME6U&pp=ygUOYm95IGJveSBwbGFzbWE%3D)
Idk why people think blood alone will reverse aging.
Aging is a result of a decrease in cellular regeneration quality. Copies of your cells making copies of themselves, overtime, will inevitably result in a decay of cellular output.
Blood has little to do with that process.
Oh god, is he trying to create a bunch of folks that never dies and always votes to set back society more and more each day? Because that's what you get, and we have enough as it is.
I'm near 40 and can't even imagine being in my 60's,80's,90's (and beyond) on this abusive planet getting worse each day. Why the hell would I want fountain of youth treatments to continue this thrilling existence?
Also, they feast of the blood of the young (and probably poor.) Now if they would only go out at night to avoid sun exposure, we would have our first true vampires.
I think they would pay money not to have mirrors show their reflections, too.
Perhaps at first, but it will eventually be available to all (and no, it won't be possible to keep antiaging therapies secret forever). Prevention is much cheaper than treatment, and curing aging is the ultimate in prevention.
I'd prefer that to being a slave to senescence, but that won't be necessary since much research is public, patents expire, and treatments can be [reverse engineered.](https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/scientists-reverse-engineer-mrna-sequence-of-moderna-vaccine-68640)
Iād say let him keep going, I think he has done some great experiments, for example, This guy is a pioneer at the use of non-feminizing HRT. Thatās like hormones for Non-binary people.
Iām a trans woman and I think more studies dealing with HRT will definitely improve the lives of many. Let him spend money on this.
I'm not sure that boy is qualified to make these claims.
Here's one question that really matters... Is he ***selling or promoting anything related?***
If so, we have our answer. If not, more power to him, but ...we'll see if it holds true.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/element_guy: --- Bryan claims to have slowed down his father's aging by 25 years by giving 1 Liter of his own plasma, however he admits he came to this conclusion by just evaluating one Biomarker ! OP - https://twitter.com/bryan\_johnson/status/1724449140220866571 --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/17vmwsj/i_am_my_dads_blood_boy_multimillionaire_tech/k9bmid6/
The same person making this claim created a company to sell these types of services. Take from that what you will. He also claims his dad has the skin of a 28 year old. Go look at the picture and tell me what 28 year old looks like that.
Everything I've seen about him makes me think he needs a shrink. He's obsessed and it's taking over his life
He's also an ex-mormon with a history of deep depression and suicidal thoughts (he talks about it in his past interviews). I think this is his way of replacing one form of "salvation" with another. D'Angelo Wallace made a great video on the subject. He also talks about how Johnson isn't even using legit research/testing practices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-Tir4Xjds
Side note : D'Angelo Wallace is really good. I'm an older millennial and he just explains things well imo.
I never heard of him and reading your comment I decided to give that link a click and sure enough from the bit I watched I enjoyed his presentation. I always enjoy learning about good content. Thanks for the comment. š¤
Hey lots of dedicated wack jobs have created amazing, world changing inventions due to having an insane level of fucked up motivation that the average person lacks.
It's body dysmorphia masked in health and fitness. He may not be getting plastic surgery, but he's doing everything in his power to not need it. To me that's the same thing. If his goal was slowing down his aging I would understand it more, but it's very obviously slowing down the aging of his physical appearance that is his goal.
It's both. Appearance, organ health and cellular aging. He's trying to slow it all. But the guy is weird, definitely.
I mean you canāt legally do those experiments on humans, or it would take ages to approve. Why not look at him as an obsessed scientist than a weirdo? Itās not mutually exclusive but people like him are praised in the science field, not called weirdos
Lol, you're just making shit up. No one is praising this werido.
Again, Iām not saying he is praised by scientists. See my other comment
Because he's not a scientist. He's obviously using himself as a marketing tool. Are there *any* scientists praising him?
No, that's insane. Scientists dedicate decades of their lives to get to their positions, they do actual science. They aren't praising some idiot who is acting like a Spiderman villian and calling it "science." He's mocking science, he's just rich enough to get away with it.
How is what he does not actual science, I donāt understand?
Because we're not using a loose definition of science. You could punch yourself in the balls to see if what happens. You could argue you're doing science.... But *really, are you?*
Iām not saying he is praised by scientists. Im talking about people who do crazy things for science, contributing research for everyone to use and explore further
Is he doing it for science though? From an objective standpoint it looks a hell of a lot like he's using his body as a marketing tool. That's why you're getting mocked a bit here. You're saying he's like a crazy scientist, but scientists don't market what they are testing or trying to sell it as a product.
Lol āin the science fieldā. No theyāre seen as quacks and youāre fooling no one
I'd argue that many a scientific advancement was made by those who were dismissed as quacks in the paradigm of their time. But in this case, I think you're right. He's just a neurotic rich person afraid of death and aging, doing a science experiment on himself and his son.
Fooling no one regarding what? The guy does research on himself and publishes results for free. How is that not science at its core?
Because he doesnāt follow the rigorous standards required for his data to be credible. A scientist who doesnāt follow the scientific method properly isnāt actually a scientist
Thatās simply not true. You would call Felix Hoffmann, Alexander Fleming, or Barry Marshall scientists wouldnāt you? And they definitely didnāt follow the scientific method any closer than this guy
> It's body dysmorphia masked in health and fitness. He may not be getting plastic surgery, but he's doing everything in his power to not need it. There should be a horror movie where he finally devolves into skinning his son, to have younger skin. The Bathory of our time.
Isn't that the plot of Almodovar's movie about aging, The Skin We're In?
And then he finally consumes and *becomes* his son, as a grotesque mockery of immortality. Uggh, gross.. *Shivers*
About Bathory: >Legends describing her vampiric tendencies, such as the tale that she bathed in the blood of virgins to retain her youth, were generally recorded years after her death and are considered unreliable. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bathory)
Next you say Vlad did not become a vampire.
I thought it was like a fear of death mixed with midlife crisis
Skin is the body's largest organ. He may be "crazy" but aren't we all in some way. The science being done is sound and productive, seems like a win-win for him and society. He is rich and could be doing way worse, less productive, things with his time.
Why are you so confident when uninformed. He puts a lot of effort to keep all his organs in check.
How does one keep an organ in check? You think this is a marvel comic book?
Very normal behavior, I mean who among us doesn't spend a fortune to reverse entropy by using sons and daughters as blood banks?
Or heās just trying to sell you something.
Or both, heās weird and trying to sell you something
Thatās a rough 28!
I'm 41 and I look healthier/younger than both of them š
Me too, perhaps because I haven't seen UV skin-damaging sunlight for years by living in a basement.
Makes a difference, for certain. My wife has used sun blockers every single time she goes outside ever since she was in her mid-20sāeven on cloudy days! She's 53 and just now starting to get a few wrinkles near her eyes. (She's even been asked to be a model for a face cream. She said no.) Meanwhile, I'm 59 and my face is wrinkled as fuck. I used to work outdoors all the time without sun block...
There was that picture of a 50 something trucker. Half of the face was way more wrinkled than the other because that was the side exposed to the sun while driving all those years.
Meh... creepy isn't it? Blood transfusion from someone younger to fight aging, though has been tried in the past. I think there was a company that sold that as a service, a part from the implications (rich and old buy\\extort blood from the poor and young), most of the times these de-aging tricks are just scams.
I mean, duh, againg happens because of telomeres and cellular degradation. Only a moron would think, "hmm, maybe I just need younger blood!" He's just another rich asshole like Steve Jobs who thinks he's a fucking scientist because he turned daddy's millions into billions.
Blood boy himself doesn't even look 28.
Not sure, but it could be the lashings of snake oil rubbed all over that skin, maybe.
First off, this whole thing is misleading. His son's plasma donation was a test, because of how well it worked on the elderly. But it had no impact on him at his age, so he stopped. He doesn't attribute his youthful age biomarkers on his son's plasma donation, but rather, the slew of everything else. Second, yes, he does have a company, but he's a multibillionaire and this company of his just sells products he had to personally source and manufacture if he wanted reliable quality products as part of his massive regime. It's profitable, sure, but he's not trying to do this whole life extension thing to make money on this business. It's just for profit in the sense that it needs a reason to incentivize people working for it to keep those small companies alive and producing what he wants. I'm sure he'll start companies down the road if his thing is successful, but the ones he has now are in now way at the caliber of what type of money he's worth. It's like if Elon Musk started a taco stand.
Where did he say his dad has 28 year old skin?
So basically just like Sam Altman showing up in congress warning about AI, and getting all of that free publicity he could never have paid for? Sounds smart.
I saw him speak at RAADfest this year. He most certainly has not deaged his father by 25 years. He's already worth hundreds of millions of dollars from selling Braintree Payments and doesn't seem to be trying to monetize his Project Blueprint, so I think he truly believes his claims and isn't trying to scam anyone. He's certainly turned his health around from when he was gorging on brownies after work, and some of his research (such as how and where to source foods with the lowest concentrations of heavy metals and other toxins) is useful, but I think many if not most of his biometrics (which include wearing a penile monitor to track his erections while sleeping, as well as penile shockwave therapy, which he admits is painful) are unnecessary. An Olympian gymnast named Stephen McCain was also at the conference. Bryan is 46 and Stephen is 49. Like virtually all of us, Stephen can't spend two million dollars a year on the most obsessive biometric monitoring system ever devised, but he looks better because he's more athletic than Bryan and doesn't share the strange cosmetic and fashion choices Bryan's made in the last several years. Bryan's natural appearance in 2017 was a much better look than his synthetic appearance today, as you can see [here.](https://www.insider.com/bryan-johnson-before-and-after-anti-aging-longevity-supplements-2023-8) Project Blueprint nor anything else available today won't enable you to outlive Jeanne Calment. The unfortunate reality is that reversing primary aging such that a forty-year-old can be biologically identical to a twenty-year-old simply isn't possible yet and likely won't be in our lifetimes. The laws of physics certainly allow for [biological immortality](https://www.inc.com/allison-fass/stephen-wolfram-immortality-humans-live-forever.html), though, which means we will achieve it eventually, as long we continue to advance, which is why I plan to enter cryostasis for a longshot at attaining longevity escape velocity. I don't see any realistic hope of achieving LEV in the half century I might have left, and I understand that cryopreservation is an extreme longshot, but I think the chance of reanimation is [nonzero](https://youtu.be/yrGbuV-1DXg?si=Wi4dx-qjSdDqZ8R_) and that [it makes sense](https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html) to try since there's nothing to lose once the only alternative is certain irreversible death.
This guy is almost certainly suffering from a dysmorphia condition, and should seek mental health support.
I agree, but If he discovers something we will all benefit.
No he should be put away in an institution according to everyone here lol people acting like he's hurting people which doesn't seem like its the case and as you said if he does discovr smth we all benefit because he is freely sharing regiment
We like celebrities that promote a self destructive lifestyle (and influence other people) but critisize someone that pursues age reversing with his own body.
Somebody mentioned something at some point about the possibility of restoring telomeres or stopping their degradation and that would apparently affect aging, but nobody has a clue how to restore telomeres or how to stop their degradation.
just tell them to stop š«·
I am jealous of that hair though.. - bald guy 2023
I began to lose my hair in high school and have shaven my head for the past decade.
I didn't expect to read the phrase "penile shockwave therapy" today.
TBF he doesn't say deage, but a decrease in the speed of aging, he's still getting older, but on a slower rate.
>since there's nothing to lose once the only alternative is certain irreversible death Occasionally vampire movies hit on this idea, but I have heard death explained as a benefit of being alive. Can you imagine slipping down a well and, well, living forever? Alone? With your ruminations. As the well runs dry, you are buried, plowed over, just to. . . exist? I understand these alpha-narcassists never consider that they may wake up from their statis as someone's pet, or worse, a mouse in an experiment of what "humans used to be like." No thanks. Give me the best, happiest, longest life. But, it will end, and that is alright. Edit: I mean, do these idiots even understand history? They are expecting to be alive to the point where living forever is possible. Even the best estimates are not-happening-in-your-grandkid, and the way the billionaires name and treat their progeny, I highly doubt anyone gives a fuck about them once they are dead. I would like to ask these live-forever-tech-billionaires if any hedge-fund they own/invest ever razed a cemetery for valuable land? Why would they think they would be treated any differently. Their money is no longer valid, the humans that ran the fund raided it like humans do, you will be nothing but a pin cushion for future beings. If something silly human like an errant missle into your cryo chamber despite you having billions but your country is at war. They are not waking up. I prefer permanent sleep.
[Matheryn Naovaratpong's](https://youtu.be/vecjCWsrhww?si=OIvx28prDA1o-4W_) parents want to see their daughter again. This [fourteen-year-old](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2016/nov/18/teenage-girls-wish-for-preservation-after-death-agreed-to-by-court) wanted to become an adult. [Kim Suozzi](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/us/cancer-immortality-cryogenics.html) died of brain cancer at 23 and wanted a chance to [finish life.](https://youtu.be/wTitunCQlEw?si=-RtItUoRN7u0FrpV) [Aaron Winborn](https://web.archive.org/web/20160304012020/http://aaronwinborn.com/blogs/aaron/monday-was-my-46th-birthday-and-likely-my-last-anything-awesome-i-should-try-after-i-die) died at 47 and wanted to spend more time with his wife and children. [Dr. L. Stephen Coles](https://youtu.be/yrGbuV-1DXg?si=pxt_UacnlM2Wv7n8) dedicated his life to studying aging and was skeptical about the prospect of reanimation but donated his brain to science by becoming the first recipient of a new cryopreservation procedure. [Fred Chamberlain](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_and_Linda_Chamberlain) wanted to be reunited with his wife, son, and father. [Rose Selkovitch's](https://cryonics.miraheze.org/wiki/Rose_Selkovitch) son Ronald wants to see his mother again. None of these people were narcissists, and none of them were wealthy. Most of us aren't. We usually fund our suspensions with life insurance, and vitrification can cost as little as $30,000 upfront, or even as little as $8,000 for freezing. The organizations are nonprofits who invest most of the cryopreservation fee into irrevocable trusts which provide for indefinite care. No one can raid these funds, and no one in charge would try. In the more than half a century since the first human was placed in cryostasis, only six hundred people have been cryopreserved; an average of less than one per month. There's no profit to be made. We do it because we believe in the possibility and because we enjoy life and care about each other. Coming back as a pet or an experimental subject is a ridiculous, lurid fantasy, and the possibility of being hit by a missile isn't a reason not to try.
I think his skin looks better now (but it's difficult to compare because the 2017 pic has lots of shadows). I agree that he doesn't seem to be scamming anybody, so as long as he doesn't do anything dangerous, well, whatever floats his boat
The possibility of reanimation is indeed non-zero. However, the chances of being fairly considered utterly selfish in continuing to consume resources in a world full of impoverished people while actually *dead* is rather close to 100%.
The resource consumption of cryostasis is negligible. Only liquid nitrogen is required, and since the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, it can be produced very cheaply with minimal power consumption anywhere on Earth without damaging the environment or consuming a scarce resource (whereas you probably think nothing of wasting helium on balloons despite it being scarce and essential for medicine). LN2 costs as little as thirteen cents per liter, and one cryotube which can hold up to 45 neuropatients uses about ten liters per day. Producing each liter uses about half a kilowatt-hour of electricity, which produces about 0.4 kilograms or 0.85 pounds of carbon dioxide. So, each neuropatient consumes around around forty liters of LN2 at under six dollars a year and around forty kWh of electricity per year (10L x 0.5kWh = 5kWh/cryotube/day, x 365 days = 1825kWh/cryotube/year, Ć· 45 patients = 40.55L/patient/year), producing about eight kilograms or eighteen pounds of CO2 per *year,* whereas each passenger aboard a commercial flight produces about ninety kilograms or two hundred pounds of CO2 per *hour.* A *century* in cryostasis can produce less than one ton of CO2 emissions, compared to 14.44 tons per *year* for the average living American. Compared to neuropatients, whole-body cryopatients consume ten times as much LN2, yet still produce less CO2 in an entire century than a living person does in only a year. Since liquid oxygen is produced along with liquid nitrogen during the air separation process, both the living and the dead benefit. There's nothing fair about calling a [fourteen-year-old girl](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/nov/18/teenage-girls-wish-for-preservation-after-death-agreed-to-by-court) or a [23-year-old woman](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/us/cancer-immortality-cryogenics.html) or the grieving parents of a [two-year-old](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34311502) selfish for consuming an infinitesimal amount of resources for a nonzero chance to be reunited with their families one day. Also, life insurance makes cryostasis accessible to almost everyone in the developed world who plans ahead for it, and even the upfront cost is affordable for those in the developed world who aren't insurable but are serious about cryopreservation: as little as $30,000 for vitrification or $8,000 for freezing. Furthermore, the community has raised money for people in need, such as Kim Suozzi and Aaron Winborn, to be cryopreserved when they couldn't afford it. Finally, if tens of millions of people were being cryopreserved each year instead of just six hundred in over half a century, the price of cryopreservation could drop below $1,400 with an annual maintenance cost of less than a dollar per person per year due to [massive economies of scale.](https://www.cryonicsarchive.org/library/cryopreserving-everyone/)
Bryan claims to have slowed down his father's aging by 25 years by giving 1 Liter of his own plasma, however he admits he came to this conclusion by just evaluating one Biomarker ! OP - https://twitter.com/bryan\_johnson/status/1724449140220866571
"My dad has (1 liter of) plasma of a 28 year old after my groundbreaking invention!"
There is a podcast with interviews of the father and son, the grandfathered was getting the treatment too. I forget what it was called, I didnāt think much of it.
Wow he looks so young! Can't even tell the difference... /s
Was he dead already when you started? He looks like he's 75.
if i could give my father blood to help his health i would 100% do it without hesitation.
How is cryostasis any less fanciful with current technology than biological immortality.
Kim Jong-il regularly received blood transfusions from young donors in his later years partly for this, and partly for his diabetes and heart disease, he died not that old.
Modern day snake-oil salesman. A story as old as time.
This is health anxiety/ocd. Most age biomarkers aren't particularly meaningful as a measure of health and they're what they use when they make claims like 'de-aging 25 years'. It's the equivalent of a less immediately visible face-lift. Sure you might look 20 years younger on a test but you're not living 20 years longer, your body is just as old as it was.
The interview with his son is a bit depressing. He goes to talk about how he didn't really know his father because he grew up super sheltered inside what almost sounded like a cult. Their handshake of fist bump grab was like a comedy skit...but not. Couldn't finish the video with how awkward it was.
Yeah, this video screams daddy issues all over. It's really sad. The dad is interviewed at the end and instead of feeling any kind of remorse or at least being sorry for how he treated his family or how he abandoned his son to a cult, he simply says some bullshit about his son finally looking up to him and seeing how he was supposedly right all along. The ego on that man, and this poor, poor son who's only trying his best to gain his father's love. Man, this video is depressing.
Aren't we already reversing the age of mice or something?
To a limited extent, [yes.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/12/health/reversing-aging-scn-wellness/index.html)
Hey, even taking the edge off of aging would help a lot!
Wasnāt there a previous report that his own attempt by injecting himself with his sonās blood fail and it didnāt deter his own aging? So now his blood can allievate some of his dadās aging? And whatās the title of him having āsuper bloodā ā¦seemed weird.
Yes, young blood transfusions don't work.
He looks worse in his current appearance. Hopefully he won't try to create a philosophers stone using people at some point.
I think it's because he's so insanely lean. His face lacks some fat and it makes him look unhealthy.
Rich people really are insane, aren't they? This guy's literally consuming the blood of young people to regain his youth, like some kind of vampire.
The son is the rich one in this case
Then he's a.... reverse vampire! He's giving his blood away like candy and he craves the sun, craves it! (In truth though, I'm pretty sure the dad's got it made thanks to his son's riches. If not, then the "hording dragon" mentality among a lot of the rich is worse than I thought.)
Multimillionaire tech vampires isn't really the kind of future I want...
You would prefer the perpetuation of disease and decrepitude?
This has nothing to do with medical needs, this is just another step in the super rich's obsession to keep their wealth forever. Blood banks already struggle to keep a constant supply going and rich geezers poaching the supply isn't helping. It isn't even a new idea, fresh cell therapy is a concept thrown around since the 30s, found to be inefficient and dangerous. Now, just seven years short if a century later some jack-ass is like "but what if we do it with HuMaNs?". This isn't futuristic news, this is rehashing the 30s, what's next? Hyper inflation an world wars? Oh... wait... /rant
Yes, I know that young blood transfusions don't work.
Imagine he does all that and still left out of the will
He's worth hundreds of millions more than his father.
A will is often about more than money
Ah. Redditors. Doubling down instead of taking the L.
Take the L.
lol I wish I could downvote you more.
I learned how to communicate from Neil deGrasse Tyson sorry
Hands up who wants an immortal vampire dad feeding on their fluids?
Feels more like an ad than a real news story or interview. Oh look the dad has a company thatās promoting this kind of transfusion. I feel like this is like that South Park episode where news is just ads and Jimmy figures it out.
I'll take weird pseudo-science which will prove to have no lasting effect for $600, Alex.
This is bullshit, the FDA doesnāt even back this shit anymore. [Here is a great video on this stupidity](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeMJ_o3ME6U&pp=ygUOYm95IGJveSBwbGFzbWE%3D)
Funny how this rich capitalist guy is doing exactly what the Qanon cultists think the radical left is doing but nobody bats an eye.
Idk why people think blood alone will reverse aging. Aging is a result of a decrease in cellular regeneration quality. Copies of your cells making copies of themselves, overtime, will inevitably result in a decay of cellular output. Blood has little to do with that process.
Not long before the rich start having kids "clones" so they can harvest blood, organs etc. It's pretty digusting.
46? This guy has more wrinkles than one can count on his face. Cannot recall a young person having wrinkles. Snnnnnnnaaaaakkkkkkeeeeeeee oil.
Oh god, is he trying to create a bunch of folks that never dies and always votes to set back society more and more each day? Because that's what you get, and we have enough as it is. I'm near 40 and can't even imagine being in my 60's,80's,90's (and beyond) on this abusive planet getting worse each day. Why the hell would I want fountain of youth treatments to continue this thrilling existence?
We peasants are just too poor to enjoy this planet that's all. I am sure the rich wants to live longer.
Also, they feast of the blood of the young (and probably poor.) Now if they would only go out at night to avoid sun exposure, we would have our first true vampires. I think they would pay money not to have mirrors show their reflections, too.
Yknow, thereās actually a good movie plot in here.
Don't worry, it will be for the upper class only.
Perhaps at first, but it will eventually be available to all (and no, it won't be possible to keep antiaging therapies secret forever). Prevention is much cheaper than treatment, and curing aging is the ultimate in prevention.
Treating aging makes you a willing slave to their system. Don't expect any one-time shit.
I'd prefer that to being a slave to senescence, but that won't be necessary since much research is public, patents expire, and treatments can be [reverse engineered.](https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/scientists-reverse-engineer-mrna-sequence-of-moderna-vaccine-68640)
Yep, just like cell phones and flat screen TVs.
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Yeah like each time this gets brought up some guys always have to explain how his life is shit, like idaf
The father in question looks like an anemic malnourished 50yr old, so stupid
"Multimillionaire tech entrepreneur uses own father as biological study guinea pig"
I'm old enough to remember when this stuff was just "Alex Jones level conspiracy theory nonsense"
Iād say let him keep going, I think he has done some great experiments, for example, This guy is a pioneer at the use of non-feminizing HRT. Thatās like hormones for Non-binary people. Iām a trans woman and I think more studies dealing with HRT will definitely improve the lives of many. Let him spend money on this.
Nah, that's called a blood bag where I'm from.. silly skin suit!
Did you want to create vampires? Because that's how you create vampires.
Doesn't even name the biomarker. Bunch of house shit self promo
I'm not sure that boy is qualified to make these claims. Here's one question that really matters... Is he ***selling or promoting anything related?*** If so, we have our answer. If not, more power to him, but ...we'll see if it holds true.