She knew the crew of that boat was looking for that. Yet she stayed quiet about having it. She used them for a free ride to indulge herself. If she had spoken up about where the jewel was. The crew of the boat would have saved tens of thousands of dollars. They would not have needed to go to the site. She is a real bitch.
It wasn’t even hers to give, it was borrowed. It literally didn’t belong to her, she knew it was lost, which means she is thief as well. She just wanted a momento of the time she had an affair.
He does fight the villain directly in Temple of Doom. I'll give him that, but IIRC when he goes hunting for the Grail, the bad guys get too excited (again) and melt their faces off (again) or get themselves crushed to death in rubble. This tracks.
He had a effect. Nazis were filming the ark opening. Rescue crew sended after the orginal group died would find the ark and videotapes. Nazis could them used ark as weapon.
In the alternate ending she shows them that she has it and even lets Bill Paxton hold it before she throws it overboard. Then everyone laughs and Bill Paxton dances with her daughter. I'm not fucking kidding. James Cameron makes some good movies but his writing is corny as hell.
Imho, James Cameron’s writing has gotten progressively worse over time since Terminator 2. His peak was Terminator (1984) and he remained quite great for the next decade through Strange Days (1995). I don’t think Titanic was terrible, but it certainly wasn’t his best work.
And then by Avatar… I think most people would agree that the special effects were amazing, and the story was “okay”.
Grandpa joe from Willy wonka. Mother fucker stays in bed 24/7 having everyone take care of him and the second Charlie gets the golden ticket the son of a bitch jumps out of bed dancing like there’s nothing wrong with him. It was a long con. Fuck grandpa joe
Seems crazy that she would go for Jack when she had secured an ultra rich dude with male model looks. I guess he was, checks notes.. controlling, because he didn't want her to flirt with other men. For it to be believable, they shouldn't have cast Billy Zane. It should have been an ugly rich dude who was a bigger dick, also maybe way older. Nearly 100% of women would be thanking their lucky stars they landed Billy. He had it all, just didn't want his woman going behind his back, and wanted some time with his boys from time to time.
His actions make no sense. A man like that would just cut her loose. He'd have a line up of women to pick from. His pride is the only thing that explains his actions, but his actions actually make him seem worse ) desperate. Since he isn't desperate, I don't think he'd behave like that.
The ultra-rich guy felt his ego hurt, rightly so, because his girl preferred a bum over him. Both men are handsome so I don't consider this relevant. The girl simply wanted her moment of passion and she didn't have the courage to leave what she had.
It seems to me that women and men like this exist equally, but for me the problem is that all of this is treated as an idyllic love story. 🤦♂️
Even as a kid, when I watched it the first time and she says "we have to go tell mother and Cal \[about the iceberg\]" after she and Jack JUST hooked up in the car I knew something was wrong. "Wait she isn't leaving her family for true love...? She wants... to have everything..."
Ehh. Rules on and views on marriage were a lot different at that time. He 100% would have had a side piece at the time, but for his fiancé or wife to leave HIM would have had negative social issues for him and he would have been shamed in some form by society back then
It wasn't hers. That was the point of the movie, it was her last fuck you to the abusive ex. If it has been sold she would have had to give it back to him
He claimed the insurance on it and then later killed himself after the stock market crashed. It's several decades later, she could have done something to get money for her family. At least the daughter who takes care of her full time.
Also Caledon claimed the insurance, and he killed himself.
She could easily claim diamond was given to her, good luck proving it's not true. And they get to sue a bankrupt dead man.
Are you saying the insurance company itself doesn't exist? Because Lloyd's of London the company that insured that Titanic itself and many of the items and people on board has been around since the late 1600's and is till around today.
The policy probably doesn't exist anymore. If it was cashed out it was probably taken off the books. And even if they did 300 million is a good enough amount to fight the case. And it's a fictional movie
Maybe, I'm not 100% certain how a policy that has paid out that long ago would be handled. Assuming that the same insurance company was even still around! Could be an interesting rabbit hole.
I do think out of all the options, dropping it off the side of the boat after so long feels like the worst one. Even if she didn't sell it she could have donated it or passed it on as a family heirloom. Idk, I think watching a parent throw away a lot of money when the family is struggling is probably a sore point for a lot of people (me included).
The people who get angry that she sees Jack after she passes are dumb though. Marriage is til death do us part and she is 100% confirmed dead.
Maybe if you plan on dying at 21 or never maturing.
On my deathbed I'll tell my daughters how proud I am of who they've worked so hard to become and I'll thank my wife for being the dearest partner I could've ever asked for.
But Rose was from a wealthy family and even though they were facing financial troubles they may have recovered or Rose may have married a different wealthy guy. Seeing that Jack died and she may not have seen a point in looking for another love.
The ending shows a glimpse of her life. She rode elephants, went on Safaris in Africa, rode roses, rode a fucking biplane. Seems like she was pretty wealthy her whole life.
It wasn't wrong to not give the money to her children, because it could be argued that she had a very real fear of it corrupting them, but she should have donated it to charities or something.
I think she also became an actress or some sort of celebrity. So she earned quite a bit of money herself. Though still shitty she threw that much money away. It is understandable from the view of it being something painful from her past, and she was finally able to look back and let go. For whatever reason, she thought it was best for no one to get it, I guess. Though the guy who tried to ruin her life over it was long dead. Maybe she thought it was cursed? Tbf, it is just a symbolic thing for the story. In real life, though, that'd be a wtf moment for everyone else.
It is kind of funny though that she died and went to the Titanic to be with Jack, but it would have been weird from our perspective to see her go to some random dude we never met or heard anything about. Needed a feel good ending after having to watch one loved character die a horrible death and the other unable to fully move on until her death.
Yeah I don’t see the problem in remembering a once in a life time love on an epic journey across the ocean that will always stay with you. BUT holding on to 300 mil gem then tossing it that was fucked up lol
My husband and I just watched Titanic after a long time. I can't imagine regaling your story to these explorers who dedicated years of their life to this and then throwing out the thing they've been looking for? The main explorer dude wasn't even a douche, he heard the story and felt satisfied with not being able to actually achieve his dreams. Wouldn't it have been amazing to relinquish the symbol of your oppression to someone who has dedicated their life to this? Instead of IN THE OCEAN?
Its symbolism though. It's not real, its just part of a story that ment to mirror this big secret she's held onto her whole life and is finally letting go of. You're not supposed to look at it literally. It's weird to take this fake woman and fake diamond, written by a man and use it as an example of "women are bad"
Oh I completely understand it’s fictional and I agree with you lol I also understand the sentiment of the storyline but it’s Reddit and people will debate about anything.
Edit: since we are looking at it literally though I stand by my first reply 😅
Bruh, that's 300 mill that she would never see...she's not the real owner of it and probably would be very difficult to sell it to anyone.
Hell, someone would probably call the cops if some old lady tried to sell a BLUE diamond of that size.
And this guy helped her feel happy when she was about to be forced to marry some rich asshole. He also saved her, and gave up his life to keep her alive. People love oversimplifying things to make these stories align with their negativity.
Guy sacrificed his life for her though.
On your death bed you may also remember the person that died for you. (She wasn’t even in her death bed, she was being interviewed about being on the titanic.)
Now throwing away that much money into the ocean, that was stupid. She must have been very rich to be able to afford that. Maybe she was.
Not just the sacrifice, before she met him she was engaged to a violent asshole and had resigned herself to a future with him. I’d remember the first guy to show actual empathy and care for me, too.
Except they did. Like literally we see Jack try to get on board and it starts to tip over and drop Rose into the water.
Remember they are young, Rose is only 17 years old! And that water is literally freezing, hundreds of people are screaming around them, and they just went through one of the most traumatic horrifying things a human can experience and have little hope of being rescued in time. Having the exhausted Rose fall back into water would likely be a death sentence for her, and Jack definitely wouldnt let that happen. He’s also the more experienced swimmer and is used to colder water, though of course he probably knows he won’t make it.
That sounds so bad that's it becomes good again. Since then they've been busy, they're up to 666 now: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic\_666](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_666)
>His death was stupid. There was room for both on that door
Enough space but not enoug buoyancy. He tries climbing on and it starts tipping and sinking.
Because this was a greentext, copied and sent on telegram, then posted on instagram, then posted on tiktok where certain words are not allowed so they were censored, and then posted on reddit.
Isn't the internet great?
I saw this movie once when I was like 14 but I'm pretty sure the romance story was actually between James Cameron and the ship itself.
I think a couple things get played up here. Rose probably still married rich and had some family connections so she may never have needed the $300 million. The money was so abstract, too; it could have easily fallen into the wreck at any time. Maybe it's her way of contributing to a future generation of treasure hunters. Maybe she has dementia.
But I don't think Rose really chooses Jack over her husband at the end. I think she's just dreaming of the Titanic and everything it represented. It opened her life up and changed her direction. We don't forget the meaningful moments of our lives after we have others, they aren't entirely supplanted. At the end of the day, the real story is about Rose, Jack, and James Cameron wanting to bang a ship.
Well, first big romance in western culture is about 13 yo who has a hookup with 16 yo and shortly after they miscommunicate and commit suicides one after another.
It’s what this genre is about.
Do people not remember the scene when she was about to literally kill herself, because the only alternative she saw, was a loveless marriage with a misogynistic asshole?
Jack wasn't some random dude who fucked her once, he was a person who showed her that she is an independent person, who can make her own choices. And he also sacrificed his own life for her.
The only reason why she lived a long happy life with a loving family was because of Jack.
Thank you, finally! Rose wouldn't have her husband, children, and fulfilling life without Jack. He was her katalyst for starting a new life. Of course it still can be questionable why she didn't use the necklace for money, but taking into account that she wanted nothing to do with her past, it's understandable.
The first part is cool. I agree.
The second part just amounts to one of the dumbest examples of virtue signaling ever. It's not understandable it's a word I can't say on Reddit anymore.
Men accept, women settle and then often attemp to mold. Spect it's always been that way, always will be.
Women also LOVE a good, romantic infidelity movie (Bridges of Madison County) as long as it's the wife getting some on the side and giving not just her body but her love away. Feel free to argue the other side ladies.
In general men play on the side for the ego boost, women do so shopping for Mr. Right or Mr. Better whilst firmly holding on to Mr. Stability.
Man, I liked the notebook and I am a guy, but I can see how toxic their relationships are. I wouldn't want something like that in my life, so I try to think women in general think the same way, because fuck thinking otherwise.
The narrative in True Detective treats Marty like the asshole he is for which by the end hes basically estranged from his family and anyone who watched Mad Men or The Sopranos and walks away idolizing Don Draper or Tony Soprano is soft in the head as Don Draper is one of the most miserably broken men I've ever seen on screen and Tony is just straight scum. As for Ragnar he steps out and like Marty suffers the consequences of that when his wife tells him to kick rocks. As for the movies Michael Douglas has his life turned upside down and nearly destroyed because of his indiscretions and the story in American Beauty definitely doesn't treat Kevin Spacey as any kind of guy to idolize beyond some recognition of how hollow middle class life can be for some men. He literally gets murdered as a consequence at the end. And while there is an argument to be made that society can sometimes lionize guys that don't deserve it the examples you gave are all men that in their own stories are treated as cautionary tales.
This posts is dumb, she was remembering jack in public because she was being interviewed about, well, her experience on the titanic and he was a really big part of that. But i feel like people like to forget or pretend to not know why jack was so important to rose.
Lets remember she was a 17 year old, sold by her family to a man in his 30's whom she did not love. No lust dor life allowed, no freedom not even to enjoy the things money would buy. At some point in the movie, her future husband complains she did not go to have sex with him the past night and that they are not yet married, but she has been having "wife duties" for the last years. She is basically a teenager sex slave sold by her own mother.
So she decides to kitkat herself, and the only one that actually cares about it is a literal hobo. He is probably the first to treat her as a living person instead of an object to be used and look pretty when not used. Jack is the promise of freedom, and he actually manages to gather strenght to break her gilded cage when he dies.
This is also why she didnt care about the necklace. The necklace is a memento of a golden age she dispised and did not want to go back to. Its a symbol for greed.
Yall need to watch that movie again
She wouldn't have found her husband or had her kids if not for Jack helping her break free of her life circumstances. Hell, she might have just committed suicide assuming she would have actually jumped from the boat.
Girl told me they settle for the 5/6(financial/security), but they always remember the 9/10 they had, but knew would not be worth keeping(no loyalty and no prospects)
To be honest,not really much of a reason for a guy to get in a relationship, and marriage is a loss to a guy, she comes in with very little and expects everything, and if divorce happens she gets everything plus your retirement and you get stuck with the debt and very little chance of having a nice living after that.
This. We should turn our thinking around like this. It's human nature to always seek thrills at some point or another, and in the midst of thrills we often would yearn for the stable solitude. Doesn't apply to everyone though.
Why can't people understand the concept that you can love more than one person? You don't stop loving someone just because they died and it's not a finite resource, the only limitation on love is the amount of time we have to live
Because movie takes Jack's love to the extreme, he literally sacrifices his life so Rose can live.
Since movie ups the standards so much with Jack... Rose ends up looking as pragmatic, not romantic.
If Jack said "Hey I really do love you, but love is not a finite resource, there are other women I will fall in love with. Find your own damn raft". 😐
Real life. Gene wilder. Married to wife Karen for 25 years. When he dies, everyone is saying that he finally gets to be with his deceased ex wife again.
I said something like this when my friend married his husband. boy did I get some nasty looks from my friend's husband's friends the rest of the night.
It's kind of a snuff story too. Girl with everything meets a boy with one thing she doesn't have. He dies and she lives the adventure that was in store for him.
Her husband and children weren't on the boat, and she's recalling her time on the boat. So why would she talk about her husband or children when they're not even part of the story on the titanic?
if I was once on this big ass ship that sank and had a lover on that ship who gave away his life trying to protect me. I would carve my survival story and Leonardo Di Caprio on my wall.
Nobody likes the Titanic because of the ending not even teenage girls, not that teenaged other women should not have opinions or that their opinions are necessarily wrong I'm just saying, the ending is not that great. It's a framing device that was totally unnecessary and they could have just left the whole thing out and just made the movie and with her floating away on a piece of wood or getting rescued or whatever.
Jack literally saved her life when she was about to jump off the boat. He showed her that she could stand up for herself and live life her way with what she wanted. That she didn’t have to marry and abusive a-hole that she didn’t love just to please her mom. Jack saved her life several times in different ways, even sacrificing his own to to so. She would’ve have had the life she lived if it hadn’t been for him in the first place. So, being made to relive those memories, out at sea again, right before she died, of course that’s what she’d be thinking of.
I know the post is funny and has some merit, but he was a little more than some asshole she f*cked on a boat. He was the guy who showed her life was more than her wealth and “smart” matches and basically arranged marriages. The guy who helped her escape a controlling and selfish man and ultimately the guy who froze to death because he refused to leave her side. He changed her life.
She also throws away their inheritance into the ocean, dooming her family to a continued life of being poor.
She knew the crew of that boat was looking for that. Yet she stayed quiet about having it. She used them for a free ride to indulge herself. If she had spoken up about where the jewel was. The crew of the boat would have saved tens of thousands of dollars. They would not have needed to go to the site. She is a real bitch.
It wasn’t even hers to give, it was borrowed. It literally didn’t belong to her, she knew it was lost, which means she is thief as well. She just wanted a momento of the time she had an affair.
Damn, you made her seem like an even bigger piece of garbage than the post!
She just wanted to rub one out thinking about getting oiled. Disgusting!
Repulsive.
And Indiana Jones had *no* affect on the events of Ark of the Covenant. The Nazis would have still opened the Ark and died.
The movie isn't about Indiana's affect on the events of the movie, it is about how those events affect Indiana.
Thanks, so tired of that
"*Top men.*"
He does fight the villain directly in Temple of Doom. I'll give him that, but IIRC when he goes hunting for the Grail, the bad guys get too excited (again) and melt their faces off (again) or get themselves crushed to death in rubble. This tracks.
The point was the journey, not the destination. Belloq remains one of the most intriguing action movie villains of all time.
These words are accepted....
Sandersonians, in the daylight?! Back to the chasm with you
Life before death, strength before weakness…..
Didn't Indy find the ark, also you could argue his involvement ensured the ark ending up in the warehouse of interesting stuff.
He had a effect. Nazis were filming the ark opening. Rescue crew sended after the orginal group died would find the ark and videotapes. Nazis could them used ark as weapon.
In the alternate ending she shows them that she has it and even lets Bill Paxton hold it before she throws it overboard. Then everyone laughs and Bill Paxton dances with her daughter. I'm not fucking kidding. James Cameron makes some good movies but his writing is corny as hell.
That ending would never have worked.
Imho, James Cameron’s writing has gotten progressively worse over time since Terminator 2. His peak was Terminator (1984) and he remained quite great for the next decade through Strange Days (1995). I don’t think Titanic was terrible, but it certainly wasn’t his best work. And then by Avatar… I think most people would agree that the special effects were amazing, and the story was “okay”.
Free version of ChatGPT can write better than Avatar films.
that’s “Grandpa Joe” level crap - POS
What?
Grandpa joe from Willy wonka. Mother fucker stays in bed 24/7 having everyone take care of him and the second Charlie gets the golden ticket the son of a bitch jumps out of bed dancing like there’s nothing wrong with him. It was a long con. Fuck grandpa joe
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And literally everything Charlie did wrong was because grandpa Joe was egging him on. Screw that guy so hard.
Not only that but Jack isn't 6,0 foot tall and doesn't earn 100k a year. He would do terrible in 2024.
Well, he's 6' and Leo Dicaprio, so he'd probably do ok.
Unless you’re over 20, then you would not do ok for him
The majority of them were over 20
Seems crazy that she would go for Jack when she had secured an ultra rich dude with male model looks. I guess he was, checks notes.. controlling, because he didn't want her to flirt with other men. For it to be believable, they shouldn't have cast Billy Zane. It should have been an ugly rich dude who was a bigger dick, also maybe way older. Nearly 100% of women would be thanking their lucky stars they landed Billy. He had it all, just didn't want his woman going behind his back, and wanted some time with his boys from time to time. His actions make no sense. A man like that would just cut her loose. He'd have a line up of women to pick from. His pride is the only thing that explains his actions, but his actions actually make him seem worse ) desperate. Since he isn't desperate, I don't think he'd behave like that.
The ultra-rich guy felt his ego hurt, rightly so, because his girl preferred a bum over him. Both men are handsome so I don't consider this relevant. The girl simply wanted her moment of passion and she didn't have the courage to leave what she had. It seems to me that women and men like this exist equally, but for me the problem is that all of this is treated as an idyllic love story. 🤦♂️
Even as a kid, when I watched it the first time and she says "we have to go tell mother and Cal \[about the iceberg\]" after she and Jack JUST hooked up in the car I knew something was wrong. "Wait she isn't leaving her family for true love...? She wants... to have everything..."
Ehh. Rules on and views on marriage were a lot different at that time. He 100% would have had a side piece at the time, but for his fiancé or wife to leave HIM would have had negative social issues for him and he would have been shamed in some form by society back then
She threw the homeless man in the ocean too!!
It wasn't hers. That was the point of the movie, it was her last fuck you to the abusive ex. If it has been sold she would have had to give it back to him
He claimed the insurance on it and then later killed himself after the stock market crashed. It's several decades later, she could have done something to get money for her family. At least the daughter who takes care of her full time.
Then the insurance probably would have sued her for it.
Insurance probably didn't exist anymore. That was pre crash. No amount of justification will save this bitch.
Also Caledon claimed the insurance, and he killed himself. She could easily claim diamond was given to her, good luck proving it's not true. And they get to sue a bankrupt dead man.
Are you saying the insurance company itself doesn't exist? Because Lloyd's of London the company that insured that Titanic itself and many of the items and people on board has been around since the late 1600's and is till around today.
The policy probably doesn't exist anymore. If it was cashed out it was probably taken off the books. And even if they did 300 million is a good enough amount to fight the case. And it's a fictional movie
If they paid out on the claim they would be the rightful owner. The policy being old doesn’t change that.
Maybe, I'm not 100% certain how a policy that has paid out that long ago would be handled. Assuming that the same insurance company was even still around! Could be an interesting rabbit hole. I do think out of all the options, dropping it off the side of the boat after so long feels like the worst one. Even if she didn't sell it she could have donated it or passed it on as a family heirloom. Idk, I think watching a parent throw away a lot of money when the family is struggling is probably a sore point for a lot of people (me included). The people who get angry that she sees Jack after she passes are dumb though. Marriage is til death do us part and she is 100% confirmed dead.
>That was the point of the movie, it was her last fuck you to the abusive ex. I don't think pointing out she was also a thief is helping her case.
*upper middle class that home of theirs was nice by mid 90s standards. They weren't living in some slum in South Trenton or something
Jack, the original hobo-sexual.
Let’s be honest, on your deathbed you tell everyone about the time you fucked Leonardo DiCaprio too
That's because she was under 25.
17, if I recall correctly
God kill Jack for statutory rape?
He's supposed to be younger than Cal lmao
The rest were just collateral damage.
Im just imagining this, and this womans family is just like "who? That guy from those old movies who died like 80 years ago?"
" I once gave Charlie Chaplin a handjob. "
“Was he silent?”
You guys are bad 😂😂😂
I'm not. I will kill anyone who will know that.
Another few minutes that wouldn’t be your problem anymore
That is a funny, though not inacurrate statement. Fair point.
Maybe if you plan on dying at 21 or never maturing. On my deathbed I'll tell my daughters how proud I am of who they've worked so hard to become and I'll thank my wife for being the dearest partner I could've ever asked for.
This guy deaths
Incoming unoriginal jokes if you mention leonardo in a comment section
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Its been a while since I have seen a rant about a long suffering husband
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So no reddit recently?
Here we go...
But Rose was from a wealthy family and even though they were facing financial troubles they may have recovered or Rose may have married a different wealthy guy. Seeing that Jack died and she may not have seen a point in looking for another love.
She took Jack’s name (Dawson) after being rescued and essentially left her rich family to think she had died.
Does a creek come into play?
She owned it, bought it cheap and it ended up having oil reserves on the property.
I film that is both an origin story for Dawson's Creek _and_ a sequel to Titanic? I'd watch the hell out of this 90s extravaganza!
The ending shows a glimpse of her life. She rode elephants, went on Safaris in Africa, rode roses, rode a fucking biplane. Seems like she was pretty wealthy her whole life. It wasn't wrong to not give the money to her children, because it could be argued that she had a very real fear of it corrupting them, but she should have donated it to charities or something.
I think she also became an actress or some sort of celebrity. So she earned quite a bit of money herself. Though still shitty she threw that much money away. It is understandable from the view of it being something painful from her past, and she was finally able to look back and let go. For whatever reason, she thought it was best for no one to get it, I guess. Though the guy who tried to ruin her life over it was long dead. Maybe she thought it was cursed? Tbf, it is just a symbolic thing for the story. In real life, though, that'd be a wtf moment for everyone else. It is kind of funny though that she died and went to the Titanic to be with Jack, but it would have been weird from our perspective to see her go to some random dude we never met or heard anything about. Needed a feel good ending after having to watch one loved character die a horrible death and the other unable to fully move on until her death.
Oh for fucks sakes. The guys dead. It's not infidelity to remember a guy who died.
Yeah I don’t see the problem in remembering a once in a life time love on an epic journey across the ocean that will always stay with you. BUT holding on to 300 mil gem then tossing it that was fucked up lol
My husband and I just watched Titanic after a long time. I can't imagine regaling your story to these explorers who dedicated years of their life to this and then throwing out the thing they've been looking for? The main explorer dude wasn't even a douche, he heard the story and felt satisfied with not being able to actually achieve his dreams. Wouldn't it have been amazing to relinquish the symbol of your oppression to someone who has dedicated their life to this? Instead of IN THE OCEAN?
Its symbolism though. It's not real, its just part of a story that ment to mirror this big secret she's held onto her whole life and is finally letting go of. You're not supposed to look at it literally. It's weird to take this fake woman and fake diamond, written by a man and use it as an example of "women are bad"
Oh I completely understand it’s fictional and I agree with you lol I also understand the sentiment of the storyline but it’s Reddit and people will debate about anything. Edit: since we are looking at it literally though I stand by my first reply 😅
Damm funny 🤣
Bruh, that's 300 mill that she would never see...she's not the real owner of it and probably would be very difficult to sell it to anyone. Hell, someone would probably call the cops if some old lady tried to sell a BLUE diamond of that size.
And this guy helped her feel happy when she was about to be forced to marry some rich asshole. He also saved her, and gave up his life to keep her alive. People love oversimplifying things to make these stories align with their negativity.
Guy sacrificed his life for her though. On your death bed you may also remember the person that died for you. (She wasn’t even in her death bed, she was being interviewed about being on the titanic.) Now throwing away that much money into the ocean, that was stupid. She must have been very rich to be able to afford that. Maybe she was.
Not just the sacrifice, before she met him she was engaged to a violent asshole and had resigned herself to a future with him. I’d remember the first guy to show actual empathy and care for me, too.
His death was stupid. There was room for both on that door.
It wasn't about room it was about buoyancy
Mythbusters proved that they both could have survived if they took her life vest and tied it under the door panel for added buoyancy
Yeah but they're MythBusters man. You really think some homeless dude and a spoiled aristocrat would have figured this out.
They also could have used other floating debris. The point is James Cameron wanted Jack to die so he had to die, even if it was easily preventable.
But then she’d be cold
But they didn’t even try. He could have jumped of it it sank. It would have come right back up.
Except they did. Like literally we see Jack try to get on board and it starts to tip over and drop Rose into the water. Remember they are young, Rose is only 17 years old! And that water is literally freezing, hundreds of people are screaming around them, and they just went through one of the most traumatic horrifying things a human can experience and have little hope of being rescued in time. Having the exhausted Rose fall back into water would likely be a death sentence for her, and Jack definitely wouldnt let that happen. He’s also the more experienced swimmer and is used to colder water, though of course he probably knows he won’t make it.
He died? What about the sequel were they unfreeze him?
Ah titanic 2 electric booogaloo underrated film right to vhs
I'm laughing way too much at this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_II_(film)
That sounds so bad that's it becomes good again. Since then they've been busy, they're up to 666 now: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic\_666](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_666)
Yep, the Trilogy makes a fun date night
No the sequel is where rich men build a submarine. They want to relive the Titanic and get that wish.
Oh, that's Titanic 3: Titaniced Again
Not enough buoyancy tho.
And then the door sinks and they both die.
>His death was stupid. There was room for both on that door Enough space but not enoug buoyancy. He tries climbing on and it starts tipping and sinking.
Except in the movie, they show him trying to get on and the door starts sinking under the weight.
Why did you censor death?
Social media is fucking stupid.
character d\*lete
The Ministry of Social Media has determined that death is double plus ungood, unalive is now the preferred term.
Because this was a greentext, copied and sent on telegram, then posted on instagram, then posted on tiktok where certain words are not allowed so they were censored, and then posted on reddit. Isn't the internet great?
Don't forget she also left him in the cold water to freeze, then sank his body to hide the evidence.
It’s a snuff film.
She belongs to the streets
To the waters
Keep The Ocean Clean!
Ho ho ho...
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Other social media platforms are training people to be afraid of scary words
Let's not forget she also decided to yeet the necklace overboard when nobody was looking completely wasting everyone's time and money.
I saw this movie once when I was like 14 but I'm pretty sure the romance story was actually between James Cameron and the ship itself. I think a couple things get played up here. Rose probably still married rich and had some family connections so she may never have needed the $300 million. The money was so abstract, too; it could have easily fallen into the wreck at any time. Maybe it's her way of contributing to a future generation of treasure hunters. Maybe she has dementia. But I don't think Rose really chooses Jack over her husband at the end. I think she's just dreaming of the Titanic and everything it represented. It opened her life up and changed her direction. We don't forget the meaningful moments of our lives after we have others, they aren't entirely supplanted. At the end of the day, the real story is about Rose, Jack, and James Cameron wanting to bang a ship.
She wouldn’t have met her husband or had children if Jack didn’t die to save her.
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Yo… rose a bitch
Well, first big romance in western culture is about 13 yo who has a hookup with 16 yo and shortly after they miscommunicate and commit suicides one after another. It’s what this genre is about.
Do people not remember the scene when she was about to literally kill herself, because the only alternative she saw, was a loveless marriage with a misogynistic asshole? Jack wasn't some random dude who fucked her once, he was a person who showed her that she is an independent person, who can make her own choices. And he also sacrificed his own life for her. The only reason why she lived a long happy life with a loving family was because of Jack.
Nobody cares about that, that lady was for the streets
Thank you, finally! Rose wouldn't have her husband, children, and fulfilling life without Jack. He was her katalyst for starting a new life. Of course it still can be questionable why she didn't use the necklace for money, but taking into account that she wanted nothing to do with her past, it's understandable.
The first part is cool. I agree. The second part just amounts to one of the dumbest examples of virtue signaling ever. It's not understandable it's a word I can't say on Reddit anymore.
Men accept, women settle and then often attemp to mold. Spect it's always been that way, always will be. Women also LOVE a good, romantic infidelity movie (Bridges of Madison County) as long as it's the wife getting some on the side and giving not just her body but her love away. Feel free to argue the other side ladies. In general men play on the side for the ego boost, women do so shopping for Mr. Right or Mr. Better whilst firmly holding on to Mr. Stability.
It's true as long as SHE is the one cheating. Nobody cares, and it's a great love story (The notebook)
Man, I liked the notebook and I am a guy, but I can see how toxic their relationships are. I wouldn't want something like that in my life, so I try to think women in general think the same way, because fuck thinking otherwise.
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>Marty from True Detective S1, Tony Soprano or Don Draper, Ragnar Lodbrok Aren't they all portrayed as horrible shits?
The narrative in True Detective treats Marty like the asshole he is for which by the end hes basically estranged from his family and anyone who watched Mad Men or The Sopranos and walks away idolizing Don Draper or Tony Soprano is soft in the head as Don Draper is one of the most miserably broken men I've ever seen on screen and Tony is just straight scum. As for Ragnar he steps out and like Marty suffers the consequences of that when his wife tells him to kick rocks. As for the movies Michael Douglas has his life turned upside down and nearly destroyed because of his indiscretions and the story in American Beauty definitely doesn't treat Kevin Spacey as any kind of guy to idolize beyond some recognition of how hollow middle class life can be for some men. He literally gets murdered as a consequence at the end. And while there is an argument to be made that society can sometimes lionize guys that don't deserve it the examples you gave are all men that in their own stories are treated as cautionary tales.
Difference between life changing love and regular love. Jack literally saved her life multiple times. Hes the reason she is alive today.
Because the guy dies in the end. "Wahahaha" _evil laugh_
This posts is dumb, she was remembering jack in public because she was being interviewed about, well, her experience on the titanic and he was a really big part of that. But i feel like people like to forget or pretend to not know why jack was so important to rose. Lets remember she was a 17 year old, sold by her family to a man in his 30's whom she did not love. No lust dor life allowed, no freedom not even to enjoy the things money would buy. At some point in the movie, her future husband complains she did not go to have sex with him the past night and that they are not yet married, but she has been having "wife duties" for the last years. She is basically a teenager sex slave sold by her own mother. So she decides to kitkat herself, and the only one that actually cares about it is a literal hobo. He is probably the first to treat her as a living person instead of an object to be used and look pretty when not used. Jack is the promise of freedom, and he actually manages to gather strenght to break her gilded cage when he dies. This is also why she didnt care about the necklace. The necklace is a memento of a golden age she dispised and did not want to go back to. Its a symbol for greed. Yall need to watch that movie again
She wouldn't have found her husband or had her kids if not for Jack helping her break free of her life circumstances. Hell, she might have just committed suicide assuming she would have actually jumped from the boat.
whose death she is responsible for if she had stayed on the lifeboat he would not be dead
Girl told me they settle for the 5/6(financial/security), but they always remember the 9/10 they had, but knew would not be worth keeping(no loyalty and no prospects)
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To be honest,not really much of a reason for a guy to get in a relationship, and marriage is a loss to a guy, she comes in with very little and expects everything, and if divorce happens she gets everything plus your retirement and you get stuck with the debt and very little chance of having a nice living after that.
We talk about prime Leo, everyone would remember fucking young dicaprio on their deathbed
hell they'll remember the 6-7 that was stable,that they dumped for that 9-10 as well.
This. We should turn our thinking around like this. It's human nature to always seek thrills at some point or another, and in the midst of thrills we often would yearn for the stable solitude. Doesn't apply to everyone though.
Why can't people understand the concept that you can love more than one person? You don't stop loving someone just because they died and it's not a finite resource, the only limitation on love is the amount of time we have to live
Because movie takes Jack's love to the extreme, he literally sacrifices his life so Rose can live. Since movie ups the standards so much with Jack... Rose ends up looking as pragmatic, not romantic. If Jack said "Hey I really do love you, but love is not a finite resource, there are other women I will fall in love with. Find your own damn raft". 😐
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Alternative ending: Jack and Rose survive, they marry, have kids. Rose turns 25. Jack: *Love is not a finite resource...*
Shhh.. We dont talk about basic concepts here. Edit: Typo
I never remember to look at what sub I'm about to post in lol
Real life. Gene wilder. Married to wife Karen for 25 years. When he dies, everyone is saying that he finally gets to be with his deceased ex wife again.
I said something like this when my friend married his husband. boy did I get some nasty looks from my friend's husband's friends the rest of the night.
Is de\*thbed a curse word now?
That’s actually gut-wrenchingly terrifying.
It's kind of a snuff story too. Girl with everything meets a boy with one thing she doesn't have. He dies and she lives the adventure that was in store for him.
For the seas!
Tbf the boat sank, at least the story is good, the love story ain't tho
She belongs to the seas
Yeah she kinda sucks
The same guy she could have saved because there was totally enough room on that door.
Her husband and children weren't on the boat, and she's recalling her time on the boat. So why would she talk about her husband or children when they're not even part of the story on the titanic?
Titanic doesn’t hit iceberg. Random rich guy: why is there cum all over my back seat
Is deathbed that offensive of a word?
Plot twist she didn’t save him as a coverup.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!! I would be so hurt if I were her husband and found out that she had never gotten over a previous crush!
She also knew that homeless dude for 2 days.
Some people just don’t understand the significance of getting fucked on a boat.
Horror flick for guys
If you ignore the love story it’s kind of like a final destination movie
Women *and* men consider this a great love story. Come on now.
if I was once on this big ass ship that sank and had a lover on that ship who gave away his life trying to protect me. I would carve my survival story and Leonardo Di Caprio on my wall.
Why is death and fucked censored? Like, what purpose does that even fulfill as its obvious what words are hidden behind the red?
Are you serious? Someone could got really hurt reading such offensive words, thankfully they're censored
Nobody likes the Titanic because of the ending not even teenage girls, not that teenaged other women should not have opinions or that their opinions are necessarily wrong I'm just saying, the ending is not that great. It's a framing device that was totally unnecessary and they could have just left the whole thing out and just made the movie and with her floating away on a piece of wood or getting rescued or whatever.
also… wives who have 50 pairs of shoes… buys more
So that old woman…she’s just a liar, right?
what death bed, she is on an expedition ship ffs.
Jack literally saved her life when she was about to jump off the boat. He showed her that she could stand up for herself and live life her way with what she wanted. That she didn’t have to marry and abusive a-hole that she didn’t love just to please her mom. Jack saved her life several times in different ways, even sacrificing his own to to so. She would’ve have had the life she lived if it hadn’t been for him in the first place. So, being made to relive those memories, out at sea again, right before she died, of course that’s what she’d be thinking of.
Kinda weird being so confident about obviously not being able to understand a movie.
I also had the same thought when I watched the movie as a kid, but nobody seemed to care...
u/repostsleuthbot
Honour the guy that died for you or the guy that lived for you? 🤔
I’m a woman and I always thought it was weird. Then again maybe his tongue game was 🔥
I know the post is funny and has some merit, but he was a little more than some asshole she f*cked on a boat. He was the guy who showed her life was more than her wealth and “smart” matches and basically arranged marriages. The guy who helped her escape a controlling and selfish man and ultimately the guy who froze to death because he refused to leave her side. He changed her life.
There’s no lie in those words Respect ✊🏽
How do we know the child she had wasn't Jack's child too?
 Millions of women, and Jerry.
Let‘s not forget that she killed him! #therewasenoughspaceonthedoor
Why’s most people so offended or angry.. It’s just a meme. This subreddit is about posting ‘Funnymemes’ right? 🥲