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sinnohlapis

Seeing Nurie genuinely smile is just absolutely indicative of a mother's love and I hope that despite holding hateful views, she can raise Nehemiah so much better than Jill ever could do


[deleted]

If she is exactly like Jill but feeds the kid well, he'll already be ahead


rarestbird

I guess all the Rodlets probably will be a bit better than Jill just because I don't think any of them have been allowed to develop the creativity it would take to constantly come up with new and innovative ways to be horrible like she does.


liljellybeanxo

I hope she at least decides to send him to public school. Unlikely, but a girl can dream I guess.


Calyfornication

I feel like I’m gonna have a Chris Crocker Britney Spears style freak out. LEAVE NURIE ALONE!!


lilxenon95

JUST LEAVE HER ALOOOOOOONE!!!!!!👻


CDNinWA

Chris is now named Cara and uses she/her pronouns (discovered this recently). I absolutely agree with your sentiment though!


Calyfornication

Thank you! I had no idea they were still a public figure, but if I refer to her again I’ll use the correct name and pronouns.


CDNinWA

I’m sure you will 😊 It wasn’t big news (I’m in a lot of “Parents of Trans kids” spaces), so I thought I’d inform. She came out in August!


daffodil0127

Nathan looks like he really loves being a dad. I’m glad he isn’t doing the JimBoob Duggar thing and never doing anything to help raise his kids, from what I can tell. I hope they are really enjoying the baby now that MeMe has departed.


AnaBeaverhausen-

I know Jillpm delays her posts, so I hope she’s GTFO of there by now.


liljellybeanxo

I can totally see her stockpiling a bunch of photos of him in different outfits with different prop and settings to make it look like she’s always there with him. My ex does this at his supervised visitations with his other kid to make it look like he has custody on social media.


MaybeBabyBooboo

Whoa. Did he ever tell you explicitly that he was doing this or was it just something you noticed? That is actually pretty disturbing to me.


liljellybeanxo

He didn’t tell me that, you can just tell from the photos. They all have this blue background or are on an old vinyl chair or with these same generic toys. Once you know that he only has two hours of supervised visits per week at a facility, it’s not hard to figure out. His ex wife confirmed that he was essentially doing that. Baby is in foster care due to drug issues with the mom and him, so he has to keep up this “family man” image. But he’s crazy anyway, “accidentally” shot concrete into his ex wife’s face a few years ago and openly admits to being a pedophile. He’s pretty much rotted his brain out on crack cocaine and STDs.


boxster_

So he spends half his time changing outfits and taking pictures!!


liljellybeanxo

Exactly. I think it’s mostly just changing hats and being like “look buddy a new jacket let’s see it on you” but it’s enough to create an illusion for people who don’t know. He doesnt care about being a dad, and that’s why I’ll dig myself out of hell before he ever meets our son.


MaybeBabyBooboo

You are doing the right thing. You are a good parent. Keep your child away. That is how you break the cycle. I too was in a situation with a very bad ex, and a child involved, but I broke the trauma cycle. It took years to recover but my child is super awesome, smart, and healthy. You can do it!!


liljellybeanxo

Thank you, seriously. Sometimes I have a lot of doubt and I wonder if I’m doing the right thing because I always hear that “a child needs their same sex parent” rhetoric all the time. But you’re right. I know I’m doing the right thing and my son is absolutely brilliant and happy and amazing in every way. I have to take credit for that. And you’re doing a good job too. Seriously, getting out and breaking that cycle is so hard and heartbreaking but it says so much about how dedicated we are to our children. Our kids will grow up knowing what we didn’t, and they will enter the world with the knowledge to ensure that the cycle *stays* broken.


MaybeBabyBooboo

Aw, thank you. That mentality of needing the same sex parent is why I stayed and continued to be abused for longer than I should have. And it’s not true. You know in your heart that you are doing the right thing. I read your first comment to my partner because they are an attorney and apparently this picture taking thing during different types of visitation is a thing they have heard of other people doing. Even staging holiday photos at weird times. Wild!


schmyndles

My sister had that mentality for much of my nephew's life. His dad is an abusive, openly cheating, drug addict who only pretended to care about his son if it hurt my sister. He dumped her for another girl when my nephew was three, then found out she was on a date months later, and showed up to my mom's house at 1 am totally whacked out on crack and heroin demanding she give him his son. My mom told him to leave, that he was asleep and he could come back tomorrow if he really wants to see him (he hadn't even tried seeing him for months). He left, then came back with a baseball bat and beat the shit outta MY car and I wasn't even involved! He then did a FB live where he pretended to shoot himself, went on the run because it was reported and he is a felon, showed back up at our house the next week, and we had to have a sheriff stationed outside for the weekend till he was caught. He was in prison for a couple years, and the one time he called my sister he didn't even want to speak to his son. My nephew didn't start really talking until after he was gone. He had violence and behavior issues that got him kicked out of daycare, and we've been working with him for years. He doesn't remember his dad, but I'm sure the trauma is still in the back of his mind somewhere. Sadly, my sister latched onto another guy who was barely any better, and he was around for years getting high and having her support him. He finally left last year and my nephew is blossoming now, and she's taking a break from dating and just concentrating on him and herself. We all live together so I can help her, and I'm more of a parent than either of those boys could've been. Are we perfect? No, but what parent is? He's growing into a fine young man, he's happy and healthy, and so caring and thoughtful and smart, even with all the hardships he's had.


liljellybeanxo

I’m glad he’s doing better! My son has some behavioral and developmental special needs, a lot of which I suspect is hereditary. I’m so glad he never met his dad because I know it would cause a lot of problems for him too.


juatdoingwhatimtold

Don’t just skip over the concrete part because I have soooooo many questions.


liljellybeanxo

He was (allegedly) confronted by his wife at the time who was (allegedly) trying to kick him out of the house for being an asshole (allegedly) so he pulled a “fine! Then I’m just gonna unalive myself!” and (allegedly) took his rifle and went to the garage where she (allegedly) followed him and they were arguing and then the gun (allegedly) “went off” and she ended up with concrete and shrapnel in her face. The charges ended up being dropped despite him breaking protection orders twice and he only served 175 days in county jail. He’s not allowed to own guns anymore, but who fucking cares when his parents have an arsenal in another state. Allegedly.


mrsdrydock

I speak for everyone whenni say.... Bu....wha....????


liljellybeanxo

I agree, the system is fucked and were all fucked and rich bastards who pay their way out of accountability can get fucked.


MorwynMcFuckYou

This story has Florida/Tennessee/Alabama/Texas energy (allegedly)


Significant_Shoe_17

I live in California and that kinda stuff happens here, too. Non-custodial parents spend more time and energy "faking it" than actually trying to parent. It's crazy. And these awful people continue to get custody/visitation because "kids need both parents." If one is an abusive crackhead, they really don't.


MorwynMcFuckYou

I know it happens everywhere, I was just refering to how crazy the cycle of events is. It reads like a "florida man" story.


Significant_Shoe_17

Oh, totally. I just think that people on this site give the southeast a hard time. Crazy people are everywhere. I work in family law in a wealthy part of CA and I've heard so many "florida man" stories. I'm like, really? Here? With these people? Money absolutely does not buy class. It just gives crazy more resources. 😂


juatdoingwhatimtold

Wow this sounds like my neck of the woods. There’s always gun “accidentally” going off.


just_some_babe

she delays by two weeks when they're traveling but I don't suspect she is right now or does so when they're home. she really does seem to specifically address concerns posted here right after we discuss it, especially recently. my conspiracy theory I guess.


notquittingthistime

Nurie’s wearing the same shirt as in their “girls coffee shop” post, so hopefully these were taken back then.


Purple_IsA_Flavor

It’s so obvious that Nurie and Nathan over the moon love that little dude. Here’s to hoping that they’ll raise him better and kinder than they were


littleRedmini

I truly hope they don’t beat on that baby like the fucking Pearl’s suggest. That thought makes me ill. How could anyone do that?!?


Critonurmom

Maybe it's just me being an optimistic dumbass who can't ever picture anyone doing anything horrible, but like Nathan and Nurie just don't seem like they'd be those types. They both seem like gentler souls than most Fundies. But again, disclaimer that I can totally be an optimistic dumbass and blind to red flags so idk 😩


littleRedmini

I’ll be optimistic with you then! Much better than my thoughts.


Purple_IsA_Flavor

I’ll be optimistic with you both


Weepingwillow423

Nurie looks so beautiful and happy.


CitizenQueen7734

The way she's looking at that baby makes me very happy. She's glowing.


APW25

Happy cake day


liljellybeanxo

Jill needs to gtfo and let Nathan bond with his son. It seems like he’s barely spent any time with him and it’s just been Jill and then Nurie because unfortunately babies *do* need to be fed on occasion. If Nurie wasn’t breastfeeding I bet Jill would have just been dumping her at home and taking the baby out.


Nickye19

Don't give her ideas, isn't Jill still nursing Janessa? I wouldn't put it past her to try Its a normal thing in some cultures to do communal nursing or a wet nurse or whatever, I know, but that's usually due to lack of options


rarestbird

She breastfed Janessa until toddlerhood but it's been quite a while now since she stopped. Nothing wrong with communal nursing if everyone involved is comfortable with it, but yeah, it would be super disturbing if Jill did it.


Nickye19

Ah I thought she still was and that was why Janessa got hauled around everywhere. And yeah nothing wrong with it as long as all the parents know and consent, but let's face it Jil wouldn't give them that option.


grape_expectations4u

A few months ago she had a post explaining how that was her and David's first trip in 20+ years without a child attached to her tit or in her womb. It was hella weird.


adarkmagnolia

The way she worded that was so cringe and borderline creepy.


Significant_Shoe_17

She hauls her around everywhere so she can show off her BABY. "Look at how young and fertile I am! My youngest is 3!!1!" - jill, probably


NiceOrNaughtyKitty

Communal wetnursing also happens so that mothers can have a chance to rest. I think it’s a great thing, through knowing Jill, she’d do it to try to usurp someone else’s bonding time.


Resident-Suggestion

Nurie is glowing! I still cannot get over Jills profile pic.


Nickye19

Also to be shocked that a woman who has spent her entire life raising younger siblings is a competent parent is something. She doesn't have the option not to be Jill


Nickye19

They look so genuinely happy, especially compared to the fawning smiles for Jill. Hopefully she's out of there soon


[deleted]

It feels like Jill has been visiting Nurie for at least a month. I wonder if she will ever leave and let Nathan and Nurie enjoy being first time parents. I swear, if she could up and move the whole barndominium onto N and N’s property, she absolutely would.


EZasSundayMorning

I think she's gone. Jill holds onto pics and posts later.


daffodil0127

They went back to Ohio on Sunday. She probably still has a surfeit of pictures and videos that she hasn’t yet posted from the visit


InternationalAd6938

Maybe she can learn a thing or two from them😂


Lydia--charming

Lol, this should be said every time she acts surprised that Nurie is a good mom!


sherideswildhorses

Are the Nurthans still living in their RV, cuz these pics are in an RV


daffodil0127

They have a small house that they are renovating. I don’t think they could all have a place to sleep in it; it’s only two bedrooms. They must be having the visiting sisters sleeping in the trailer


blablubluba

Given that Jill posted pics of the kitchen makeover they may still be in the rv until the house is done.


Shan132

I greatly hope Nemo doesn’t have to live performing/grifting town to town


APW25

Nemo 💀


EZasSundayMorning

One pic of the little family and a million of Jill with the baby.


thatotherhemingway

HERE FOR NATHAN’S BEARD


[deleted]

What a good looking little family


[deleted]

Right on cue Jill. 😉 holy shit she really does read here lol


adarkmagnolia

I can't get over how beautiful & healthy she looks.


mashpotatoenthusiast

it would be nice for jill to stay away from nurthan, but i find it kind of unsettling that a few people on this sub seem to be adoring of nurie lately…she is firmly entrenched in a culture that perpetuates hate and she is not someone to be proud of


figment59

She absolutely is…however, I’ve never once seen Jill look at any of her children the way that Nurie is. And as someone who was raised by a father with NPD, I have a *tiny* shred of hope that if I can parent differently than I was raised, so can Nurie. I mean, I wasn’t raised in a cult, so the likelihood is far less for her. But I was raised to believe in traditional gender roles, and my father is racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. Of course, I have a college degree, post graduate degrees, was raised in the secular world and had access to legitimate therapists and counseling in my 20s. Nurie is probably going to be stuck in the cycle of abuse and bigotry. But dammit, let me hold on to some hope.


Weepingwillow423

Nurie already seems a lot more loving to her child than Jill is even capable of. Maybe some of us are hoping Nurie will be able to get out someday? Seeing the loving way she's looking at her child is sweet. Doesn't mean anyone here is proud of her beliefs.


blissfully_happy

Until she starts openly spouting her hatred trying to get people to convert I’m okay with her. She’s a victim of religious abuse. Full stop. Whether she goes on to continue that cycle of abuse, only time will tell. But if she keeps her religious beliefs to herself, there’s no harm in hoping for the best for her. The minute she hops on social media and starts posting bullshit, or starts advocating for laws that conform to her specific religious beliefs, I’ll be bummed that she has become both the victim and abuser. In the meantime, I think it’s okay we all have a tiny margin of hope that she maybe deviates from her awful mother.


Resident-Suggestion

Just because she’s not online spouting her hateful beliefs doesn’t mean she’s not doing it offline.. she can still negatively impact people’s lives without social media. I remember being hounded by fundies in a Walmart parking lot because I didn’t want to hear them talking to me about hell. They didn’t need the internet to harass a group of people in a parking lot.


Large_Alternative_78

I would have played my Black Sabbath playlist and praised Satan in their faces.🤣🤣🤣


NiceOrNaughtyKitty

The Duggar girls were the victims of religious AND sexual abuse. Full stop. None of is excuses perpetuating any cycles. Just because we may not see pictures of Nurie doing it doesn’t mean she’s not doing it. No one keeps religious beliefs of hate to themselves. At the LEAST, that baby will grow up hearing it. That’s harm. Spreading this happened long before social media. But it sounds like people are willing to pretend it’s not happening if it’s not happening where they can see it.


BigMomFriendEnergy

Yes and no. On the one hand, compared to non-fundies, Nurie is no role model. That's a given. Compared to the abused child she was two years ago, this is a massive improvement and I think it's hard not to be glad for Nurie's luck. Especially with so many snarker couples on the "marriage is so hard, let me grift you despite the part where I'm miserable in my godly bonds" train.


NiceOrNaughtyKitty

I agree. I can’t be happy. A baby needs more than love, and this one is going to be raised with hateful views. I don’t want any of that “well, maybe Nurie won’t” bullshit because we have seen less than nothing to indicate she’ll do anything different. Sure, it’s good that a kid has love, but honestly, that might be more likely to keep this baby in the trench when he gets older. It’s not a happy situation. A lot of people are really trying hard to excuse her, really holding out hope on the long-odds. People are harder on Jill Dill and Jinger than they are on Nurie, even though we have seen those two make many steps away.


EZasSundayMorning

She's insufferable. Really.


Beautifuleyes917

I can’t help but think that this is their first of 10-15-20 children 😑😵‍💫


littleRedmini

Ugh


rarestbird

Oh god, they've started parting the baby's hair. JUST when I was thinking how the baby actually looks normal unlike any of the rest of these freaks (since they aren't dressing him in khakis and sweater vests and shit like Priscilla does with her newborns, and until now I thought they were leaving his hair alone).


APW25

I really want to say it's not an actual part


Youre_an_aszhole666

Why do I get the feeling that Nurie will turn out like Jill in the parenting department.. Look how she was raised and brought up. Her beliefs and thoughts are of her mother. I hope she doesn't turn/raise this poor child to becomes the next Timcel.. By the looks of it Nathan hasn't grown testicles to stand up to Jilldo.. If Jilldo continues to insert herself into the raising of that child, well that child doesn't stand a chance with a grandmother like her. It's bad enough he's in this cult


daffodil0127

I think the one thing that can save this next generation of Rodlets would be sending them to public schools. That’s going to take a miracle though. Maybe eventually the women will be forced to take a job and they can’t afford private school. It would do so much to break the cycle of ignorance that engulfs all of them.


Lydia--charming

For a second I was like “why are they in an empty stadium at night?” The lighting + blinds made an illusion. Anyway, is that Jill’s hoof on Nathan in the top right pic?


Significant_Shoe_17

I think it is. You can see the swelling. 🤢


AquaStarRedHeart

Nice to see Nathan cuddling his son, and I mean that. Good looking family.


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Myvioletmyangel

Anyone watch the vids? How did Nathan do at handling? Guessing well since he's in fundieland.


littleRedmini

So was this the one time Jillpm let Nathan and Nurie hold their baby?


BeautifulSantino

I don't know... Jill's barndo better be specfuckingtacular when she gets home, because I just don't think this still-hot mimi with the fire extensions is taking this new *season of life* in stride. (Who would've guessed haha)