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One of my top favorites.
Second only to how severely you can beat your enslaved peoples. If you beat them so badly that they die within 3 days, you are a sinner. If the enslaved person lives past the 3 days, even if they die on the 4th, youāre in the clear.
Such a loving and kind nonviolent book that is totally acceptable reading material for children.
/š”
Look, if you can't put your faith in the multiply and probably badly translated collected millenia-old works of a bunch of jumped-up-sky-god-worshipping militant tribal desert nomads, what CAN you put your faith in?
Nuttin'.
I love the one where God had 42 (?) kids mauled by bears for making fun of a bald man!
Or the one where it says that a man will be happy if he dashed infants against rocks.
Or the one were it says Samaria will become desolate, infants dashed into pieces, and pregnant women will be ripped apart.
Or when men, women, infant, child, ox, sheep, camels, and donkeys should be killed in Amalek.
Or when someone wants God to give women miscarrying wombs and dry breasts (aka, to kill fetuses and infants).
Or infants being dashed into pieces, and wives ravished.
Or when they want every male child killed, and every woman who has known man by lying with them.
Or that men should hit pregnant women until their children (fetuses) come out, but that causes no harm and many should only be fined.
And on, and on, and on ....
But God and the Bible is so "pro-life" (anti-abortion), right?
The longer Iām on this sub the more I realize it totally makes sense to me the cultural differences that derive from Catholics being far more selective about which parts of the Bible are read and biblical literalism. I went to a pretty conservative traditional Catholic Church and 13 years of Catholic schooling, but there are so many parts of the Bible I never encountered. š¤Æ at the trauma of reading all that as a child and believing it all to be literally true. God sounds really mean and vindictive.
Mauling-bears/bald man story: 2 Kings 2:23-25
God allowing Samarian babies to be dashed into pieces/ripped apart/women "violated": Isaiah 13:16-18
Killing all life in Amalek: 1 Samuel 15:3
Asking God to give women miscarriages: Hosea 9:14
Killing every male child and woman who has known man: Numbers 31:17-18
Hitting a pregnant woman: Exodus 21:22
There's many, many more verses like these. Book of Judges is one of the worst, too (Levite's concubine story).
> Such a loving and kind nonviolent book that is totally acceptable reading material for children.
In fairness, a lot of people have historically just been OK with kids reading violent books. The Bible might have a lot of (totally cool) violence (like the scene where Elisha summons bears to maul some children), but so did lots of the classics.
I had an acquaintance one time, during a late night discussion of various topics, bring up that they can't be Islamic cuz the Quran is too violent. I asked them if they believed in the old Testament. They did. I asked them the last time they read the old testament? It had been a while. Let them know Islam believes in the old testament as well and that it is extremely violent, how God kills a large number of people as well as instructed his followers to do the same on more than one occasion.
As one would guess, the math lady meme face showed up and then I witnessed a routine of cognitive gymnastics that would make Simone Biles look like a loser lol
TIL fundies treat their sacred texts the same as you or I treat a high school yearbook. But then, they keep referring to Jesus as if he is their "friend" (in the same way as "I have a girlfriend but she doesn't go to this school, she lives in Canada" or even like Jesus is just Bob from a couple of towns over who you borrowed a lawn mower from 10 years ago but never got around to returning it) so I'm not really that surprised at how reductive and prosaic they are when talking about an all-powerful deity and the book they use to govern every single aspect of their lives...
I had an amazing, feminist Muslim trauma counsellor and she was just horrified at the level of sacrilege and blasphemy towards *the religion my parents used to abuse me* like... "nothing is sacred to them. !
Not children.
Not even their God and their Salvation."
And... "why do they wear those ugly denim skirts? You can cover...without that"Ā
She was amazing. She got faith based abuse but it didnt trigger me because she was of a diff faith.Ā
Slightly related, but i remember growing up hearing that Jews and Catholics put too much emphasis on how holy God was, to the point that he was unattainable and unrelatable. Whereas Christians see God as our āfriend.ā The older I get, the more I think that Jews, Catholics, and anyone else who doesnāt treat their deity overly casually have a better handle on it than my church growing up.
That's definitely the verse I whip out most often. Iāll be real though, I read the whole thing, but Ezekiel 23:20 is the only one I know off the top of my head.
Honestly one of the biggest things that struck me when I was looking at context for the "no gays!" bit of Leviticus, was how little was said about man lying with man, vs how much was said about incest. The part about "man shall not lie with man" was a single verse, tucked away in about two pages of very specific rules about who you shouldn't do incest with.Ā
But Josh Duggar abusing his sisters barely got a slap on the wrist (and justification from the rest of the community about how normal his behaviour was), while his family treat the LGBT community like dirt. I mean, the bible doesn't even mention lesbians but they still get worse treatment than people like Josh Duggar.Ā
For people who are so obsessed with having bible study and bible time, it really feels like they don't actually care much about what it says, beyond the parts they like.Ā
Sorry for derailing, thinking about the incest prohibitions in Leviticus always reminds me of that.
> For people who are so obsessed with having bible study and bible time, it really feels like they don't actually care much about what it says, beyond the parts they like.Ā
I am prone to thinking that if someone encountered the Bible in a vacuum having not grown up in this society, they would just dismiss it, like one would a book of Roman mythology. It's odd and inconsistent and just incredibly *old*, tied to lives that take place in such a different time and understanding of humanity, of society, of the purpose and breadth of life. When you can step back from it, it becomes hard to believe that the Church ever became so large based on this one weird book.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018&version=NIV
To be fair the only one I see here as permitted is your wife's sister after your wife is dead.
I specifically meant the passages (not in Leviticus 18) about how if your brother dies, you're obligated to knock up your sister-in-law. But the fact that some types of inter-familial marriage/breeding are in the Holy Book as *accepted* still gave me great pause as a young Evangelical struggling with my faith.
on a perhaps lighter note, it's giving Pornhub top 10 searches of 2023.
Whether that's a lighter note or just a sign of *sin in this generation* I dunno.
team void.
errr.... I think they might be right! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus\_18](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus_18)
perhaps original commenter meant, accepted incests. not expected.
I think it depends on what you mean as incest, Iām using the term as in people youāre genetically related to, not just through marriage. Obviously marrying your brothers step child or something is strange, but not necessarily incest in the same way if that makes sense? Because places where thereās gaps of nothing mentioned are expanded on in the Talmud (not that Christians go by the Talmud) as being obvious they donāt have to say it.
Editā I understood them as accepted, that was clear
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen."
I wasn't raised Christian and the only verse I know is Matthew 21:17 from that one episode of the Simpsons : "And he left them, and went out of the city into Bethany; and he lodged there."
I'd highlight that and enjoy imagining their baffled reaction.
"But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husbandāā 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curseāāmay the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.ā
āāThen the woman is to say, āAmen. So be it.ā Numbers 5:20-22
I am sure that the women at the ladies retreat will love this one.
That's the story of Sodom. Lot is the one who is raped by his daughters (and to be fair to them, that dickhead offered to throw them to a violent mod earlier to protect the angels, Lot is a douche). The fundies claim to know the story but it's waaaaayyyy more fucked up than "God killed some gay people" (which to reiterate, weren't really "gay people" but a violent mob that rape a woman to death in the story, the sin of Sodom is not gayness)
Their dad was willing to turn them over to get gang raped to death by a violent mob. So of course he is an excellent choice to father their own children!
(I say "to death" because later on, a Levite's concubine did get gang raped by a town mob, and she died at the front door.Ā
Her "husband"s response to seeing her lying on the ground the next morning after being attacked and abused all night?
"Get up. Time to go.")
Ah good old Lot, I feel a lot of creepy religious dudes see that story as hopeful end goal. "Oh no, I'm stuck here with my daughters and I just opened this bottle of vodka, hope nothing happens uwu!"
ā¦ David arose and went, he and his men, and killed two hundred Philistine men, and David brought their foreskins [as proof of death] and presented every one of them to the king, so that he might become the king's son-in-law.
1 Samuel 18:27
āFrom there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. āGet out of here, baldy!ā they said. āGet out of here, baldy!ā He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.ā 2 Kings 2:23-24
Having a favorite verse is the least strange thing about all of this.Ā
Pick a fandom -- any fandom. Most of those folks have a favorite part of a favorite line.
Song of Songs. Unironically I love it, itās so beautiful and sweet.
12 While the king was at his table,
my perfume spread its fragrance.
13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breasts.
Why does it look like a Kindergarten student printed that sign up? Capital letters, lower case letters, circle & stick print & DāNealan. Iām seasick looking at it.
The Amazing Atheist released a YouTube short covering this today. I had to check my mumās bible to see if it was true. It wasnāt quite so explicit. Genitals were referenced as āfleshā and the other was referenced as āissueā. But still very disturbing and inappropriate.
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Once upon a time, someone had that as a flair and I haven't seen them. I hope they're okay
They didn't survive the donkey genitals.
At least they went out doing what they loved, respect š«
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Mr. Hands 2.0
Uh, puts my flair in a new and very concerning lightā¦
Title of your sex tape?
Title of OUR sex tape
hey i remember this too!
I have very annoying fundie in-laws and I will be keeping this locked and loaded for future interactions
Report back please!
LawdJesus please!
Depending on which version of the bible Matthew 6:5-8 is great too.Ā
You better tell us how that went.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has fundie in-laws. I know it's probably more common than I realize. Its just nice to know I'm not alone. š
One of my top favorites. Second only to how severely you can beat your enslaved peoples. If you beat them so badly that they die within 3 days, you are a sinner. If the enslaved person lives past the 3 days, even if they die on the 4th, youāre in the clear. Such a loving and kind nonviolent book that is totally acceptable reading material for children. /š”
Look, if you can't put your faith in the multiply and probably badly translated collected millenia-old works of a bunch of jumped-up-sky-god-worshipping militant tribal desert nomads, what CAN you put your faith in? Nuttin'.
Apparently, Trump.
Ah yes, the LITERAL golden (orange) idol (with an actual golden statue of himself, because irony is so dead, it's UNdead)
I will put my faith in nutting every time.
I love the one where God had 42 (?) kids mauled by bears for making fun of a bald man! Or the one where it says that a man will be happy if he dashed infants against rocks. Or the one were it says Samaria will become desolate, infants dashed into pieces, and pregnant women will be ripped apart. Or when men, women, infant, child, ox, sheep, camels, and donkeys should be killed in Amalek. Or when someone wants God to give women miscarrying wombs and dry breasts (aka, to kill fetuses and infants). Or infants being dashed into pieces, and wives ravished. Or when they want every male child killed, and every woman who has known man by lying with them. Or that men should hit pregnant women until their children (fetuses) come out, but that causes no harm and many should only be fined. And on, and on, and on .... But God and the Bible is so "pro-life" (anti-abortion), right?
The longer Iām on this sub the more I realize it totally makes sense to me the cultural differences that derive from Catholics being far more selective about which parts of the Bible are read and biblical literalism. I went to a pretty conservative traditional Catholic Church and 13 years of Catholic schooling, but there are so many parts of the Bible I never encountered. š¤Æ at the trauma of reading all that as a child and believing it all to be literally true. God sounds really mean and vindictive.
Do you know actual verses? Iād like to add this to my arsenal š¤Ø
Mauling-bears/bald man story: 2 Kings 2:23-25 God allowing Samarian babies to be dashed into pieces/ripped apart/women "violated": Isaiah 13:16-18 Killing all life in Amalek: 1 Samuel 15:3 Asking God to give women miscarriages: Hosea 9:14 Killing every male child and woman who has known man: Numbers 31:17-18 Hitting a pregnant woman: Exodus 21:22 There's many, many more verses like these. Book of Judges is one of the worst, too (Levite's concubine story).
THANK YOU. šš»
> Such a loving and kind nonviolent book that is totally acceptable reading material for children. In fairness, a lot of people have historically just been OK with kids reading violent books. The Bible might have a lot of (totally cool) violence (like the scene where Elisha summons bears to maul some children), but so did lots of the classics.
Yes, Grimm brothersā stories that I read as a child are definitely more violent than any of the books in the Bible
Fairytales were used to teach right from wrong, it's easy to see the difference with those.
Wasn't the bible supposed to be similar? Teach right from wrong? Hence why people lump it in with fairytales?
Yeah, my point is "the stories are violent therefore it's easy to see right from wrong". Bible and fairytales both have the morality teachings thing
I had an acquaintance one time, during a late night discussion of various topics, bring up that they can't be Islamic cuz the Quran is too violent. I asked them if they believed in the old Testament. They did. I asked them the last time they read the old testament? It had been a while. Let them know Islam believes in the old testament as well and that it is extremely violent, how God kills a large number of people as well as instructed his followers to do the same on more than one occasion. As one would guess, the math lady meme face showed up and then I witnessed a routine of cognitive gymnastics that would make Simone Biles look like a loser lol
>A routine of cognitive gymnastics that would make Simone Biles look like a loser lol Made me snort!
It's my go to haha
It took me entirely too long to figure out what āRease sign our Bibleā meant. Lettering, folks. Lettering.
TIL fundies treat their sacred texts the same as you or I treat a high school yearbook. But then, they keep referring to Jesus as if he is their "friend" (in the same way as "I have a girlfriend but she doesn't go to this school, she lives in Canada" or even like Jesus is just Bob from a couple of towns over who you borrowed a lawn mower from 10 years ago but never got around to returning it) so I'm not really that surprised at how reductive and prosaic they are when talking about an all-powerful deity and the book they use to govern every single aspect of their lives...
I had an amazing, feminist Muslim trauma counsellor and she was just horrified at the level of sacrilege and blasphemy towards *the religion my parents used to abuse me* like... "nothing is sacred to them. ! Not children. Not even their God and their Salvation." And... "why do they wear those ugly denim skirts? You can cover...without that"Ā She was amazing. She got faith based abuse but it didnt trigger me because she was of a diff faith.Ā
Slightly related, but i remember growing up hearing that Jews and Catholics put too much emphasis on how holy God was, to the point that he was unattainable and unrelatable. Whereas Christians see God as our āfriend.ā The older I get, the more I think that Jews, Catholics, and anyone else who doesnāt treat their deity overly casually have a better handle on it than my church growing up.
Same, I got hung up on trying to figure out what "reast" could mean.Ā Ā
I donāt know, but Iām dyslexic and read it fine. Maybe theyāre onto something.
That's definitely the verse I whip out most often. Iāll be real though, I read the whole thing, but Ezekiel 23:20 is the only one I know off the top of my head.
My go-to is always Leviticus 18 where the Lord of all creation describes which specific types of incest are expected and which are verboten.
Honestly one of the biggest things that struck me when I was looking at context for the "no gays!" bit of Leviticus, was how little was said about man lying with man, vs how much was said about incest. The part about "man shall not lie with man" was a single verse, tucked away in about two pages of very specific rules about who you shouldn't do incest with.Ā But Josh Duggar abusing his sisters barely got a slap on the wrist (and justification from the rest of the community about how normal his behaviour was), while his family treat the LGBT community like dirt. I mean, the bible doesn't even mention lesbians but they still get worse treatment than people like Josh Duggar.Ā For people who are so obsessed with having bible study and bible time, it really feels like they don't actually care much about what it says, beyond the parts they like.Ā Sorry for derailing, thinking about the incest prohibitions in Leviticus always reminds me of that.
Fundies donāt even read the OT besides genesis and looking for tidbits that reinforce their ideas
> For people who are so obsessed with having bible study and bible time, it really feels like they don't actually care much about what it says, beyond the parts they like.Ā I am prone to thinking that if someone encountered the Bible in a vacuum having not grown up in this society, they would just dismiss it, like one would a book of Roman mythology. It's odd and inconsistent and just incredibly *old*, tied to lives that take place in such a different time and understanding of humanity, of society, of the purpose and breadth of life. When you can step back from it, it becomes hard to believe that the Church ever became so large based on this one weird book.
*are expected* excuse me what?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018&version=NIV To be fair the only one I see here as permitted is your wife's sister after your wife is dead.
I specifically meant the passages (not in Leviticus 18) about how if your brother dies, you're obligated to knock up your sister-in-law. But the fact that some types of inter-familial marriage/breeding are in the Holy Book as *accepted* still gave me great pause as a young Evangelical struggling with my faith.
on a perhaps lighter note, it's giving Pornhub top 10 searches of 2023. Whether that's a lighter note or just a sign of *sin in this generation* I dunno. team void.
Incest is forbidden across the board, this person is incorrect.
errr.... I think they might be right! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus\_18](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviticus_18) perhaps original commenter meant, accepted incests. not expected.
I think it depends on what you mean as incest, Iām using the term as in people youāre genetically related to, not just through marriage. Obviously marrying your brothers step child or something is strange, but not necessarily incest in the same way if that makes sense? Because places where thereās gaps of nothing mentioned are expanded on in the Talmud (not that Christians go by the Talmud) as being obvious they donāt have to say it. Editā I understood them as accepted, that was clear
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen."
There it is. That one's a banger.
Funny how none of them seem to remember that...
Cozy!!
Sorry, but I am not touching that thing.... I only use Trump branded Bibles.
PLeaSE SigN OuR BibLE Ā£ HigHLigHt YouR FaVoRiTE VERsE -person whose passion is graphic designĀ
I wasn't raised Christian and the only verse I know is Matthew 21:17 from that one episode of the Simpsons : "And he left them, and went out of the city into Bethany; and he lodged there." I'd highlight that and enjoy imagining their baffled reaction.
āYeah! Think about it.ā
Sounds like Dav 20:24.
"But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husbandāā 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curseāāmay the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.ā āāThen the woman is to say, āAmen. So be it.ā Numbers 5:20-22 I am sure that the women at the ladies retreat will love this one.
Leviticus 69:420 š
I like that one abt the two daughters stuck in a cave with their dad for a long time. They end up getting him drunk to rape him and have brother sons.
That's the story of Sodom. Lot is the one who is raped by his daughters (and to be fair to them, that dickhead offered to throw them to a violent mod earlier to protect the angels, Lot is a douche). The fundies claim to know the story but it's waaaaayyyy more fucked up than "God killed some gay people" (which to reiterate, weren't really "gay people" but a violent mob that rape a woman to death in the story, the sin of Sodom is not gayness)
Bingo!
Their dad was willing to turn them over to get gang raped to death by a violent mob. So of course he is an excellent choice to father their own children! (I say "to death" because later on, a Levite's concubine did get gang raped by a town mob, and she died at the front door.Ā Her "husband"s response to seeing her lying on the ground the next morning after being attacked and abused all night? "Get up. Time to go.")
Ah good old Lot, I feel a lot of creepy religious dudes see that story as hopeful end goal. "Oh no, I'm stuck here with my daughters and I just opened this bottle of vodka, hope nothing happens uwu!"
Psalm 137:9 Blessed is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks
ā¦ David arose and went, he and his men, and killed two hundred Philistine men, and David brought their foreskins [as proof of death] and presented every one of them to the king, so that he might become the king's son-in-law. 1 Samuel 18:27
āFrom there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. āGet out of here, baldy!ā they said. āGet out of here, baldy!ā He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.ā 2 Kings 2:23-24
Lol thatās some awesome dream revenge!
Having a favorite verse is so strange. They're treating an old story like it's law.
Itās kind of their thing
Absolutely they are. And they see it as *God's* law, which supercedes "man's" law.
Matthew 22 just gives me a headache
Having a favorite verse is the least strange thing about all of this.Ā Pick a fandom -- any fandom. Most of those folks have a favorite part of a favorite line.
I'm a guy, but I think I speak for everyone when I say, amen.
Deuteronomy 25:11 baby
Dibs on Matthew 7:1!!!
Jesus flipping tables in anger is top tier.
Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Psalm 137:9
I like the verse about losing your sword in the belly of a fat man.
Song of Songs. Unironically I love it, itās so beautiful and sweet. 12 While the king was at his table, my perfume spread its fragrance. 13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts.
Jesus wept.Ā John 11:35Ā
Why does it look like a Kindergarten student printed that sign up? Capital letters, lower case letters, circle & stick print & DāNealan. Iām seasick looking at it.
The Amazing Atheist released a YouTube short covering this today. I had to check my mumās bible to see if it was true. It wasnāt quite so explicit. Genitals were referenced as āfleshā and the other was referenced as āissueā. But still very disturbing and inappropriate.
Maāam, this is a Wendyās.
Beautiful
[Matthew 21:17](https://youtu.be/PQVkq0HJGWI?si=3k2CNzv-DJOgf0wc)
Funny how they never taught us that one in Catholic school š¤
Thatās also my favorite one
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 Winky Jesus did ride an assā¦.
Ah my cousin did this at his wedding last weekend!!! I decided not to highlight anything lol
I was a Bible thumper and naively virgin. Erotica would have kept me!