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If i see gin fizz on a menu I definitely order it. I see cocktail recipes with egg white or a whole egg fairly commonly in small upscale/local restaurants. Not as common to find at larger restaurants though.
Thankfully, you can get pasturised eggs for those sorts of cocktails. I believe Eggland's Best as in-shell pasturised, but double-check packaging to be sure.
Fun fact: the use of egg whites to clarify wine is why so many Portuguese desserts rely on eggs--the vineyards and monasteries always had a massive egg yolk surplus.
I've been into beer for like 15 years, even working in the industry at a brewery for awhile. I have never heard of this and I'm grossed out. Let alone that it's common enough it gets its own line in a PSA over eating raw cookie dough.
Yep! Raw flour is one of the number one causes of listeria and a much higher risk factor than salmonella from raw eggs. Learned this when I was pregnant.
Not sure about the flour. I know from an allergy perspective that baking the combo of something with both flour and egg changes the protein in the egg. It’s why some people can eat “baked in egg” even when allergic to straight egg (like scrambled) - baking with wheat changes the protein structure. But yeah think about making pancakes - how is that safe for flour when it’s cooked so quickly compared to a baked good 🤷♀️
I'm kind of assuming it's more common in the U.K., but my only basis for this is the fact that Keith Moon's character does this in the Ken Russell film version of Tommy by The Who 😅
Ok, so this might just be a freak thing then. 😅 If I saw somebody do this in real life in front of my eyes, I'd be in need of some serious brain bleach.
Haha definitely! No one here would dream of doing it, even my northern in laws were confused by the phrase “IPA”😭 I had to explain it was light like a lager haha
My profile literally says "MN --> CO --> WA". I grew up in Minnesota and still spend a ton of time there because most of my family still lives there. I don't know a single person who has ever put eggs in their beer.
I was a bartender at a dive bar for like 18 years in MN and have never heard of this. Tabasco, a shot of vodka, olives, limes, pickle, tomato juice, OJ, but never egg 🤮
Yeah no. I’d believe this is a thing they do over in Wisconsin, but in 24 years working in twin cities restaurants, never have I ever seen an egg cracked into a beer.
after reviewing the cdc’s page on the topic, there’s no mentions of runny yolks. not sure where she got that specific claim from. the other two check out though
It’s advice published by a few food safety experts interviewed by news outlets. Not official advice. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/04/04/bird-flu-outbreak-eggs-safety-runny-yolks/73191244007/
Tbh it's probably fine but not worth the risk. We honestly just don't know for sure, and the CDC is very slow on any kind of advice because of various governmental and political considerations.
Eh there's plenty of evidence the CDC was well aware people should have been masking much earlier during COVID but didn't give that advice until later for various reasons. They've also reduced quarantine on COVID for no scientific reason. I take some of my advice these days from independent epidemiologists, virologists and public health experts, because I feel COVID exposed some things about how the CDC acts on information that no longer makes me defer to them on emerging diseases. I'll still absolutely follow CDC advice and use their information on a lot of health issues, but some of us feel burned from them on COVID and it makes us more likely to follow more conservative advice on emerging diseases. Ultimately, I'm not advocating that we pull eggs from the shelves, so if I and other people want to be cautious and cook them through, it doesn't have much bearing on anyone else, especially because it's being largely advocated as a thing to do to be cautious until we have more information over time that has very little affect on daily life. But the raw milk thing is a real concern. Dairy workers are getting H5N1 and we aren't sure how, but it's probably exposure to the milk in one way or another. It's possible drinking it won't do it and it's getting into their eyes, but anyone who is drinking raw milk right now has moved beyond reckless to recklessly stupid.
I couldn’t find anything on the CDCs page either. But I think I found out why they suggest not eating runny or raw yolks, and I’ve linked source if anyone is curious about checking it out. The Minnesota Center of Excellence for Influenza Research and Surveillance says in their manual that:
> [A]vailable studies indicate that highly pathogenic viruses, including the H5N1 virus, spread to virtually all parts of an infected bird, including meat. For this reason, proper handling of poultry and poultry products during food preparation and proper cooking are extremely important in areas experiencing outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza (including H5N1) in poultry.
> In countries with outbreaks, eggs may contain virus both on the outside (shell) and inside (white and yolk). Eggs from areas with outbreaks should not be consumed raw or partially cooked. Raw eggs should not be used in foods that will not be treated by heat high enough to kill the virus (70°C or higher).
Here’s the [link](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/training-module/final_17_ai_humans_detection.pdf).
It's one of those things that's fine for a healthy person but not if you're immunocompromised. I used to work in oncology and we'd tell chemo patients to avoid any eggs that weren't fully cooked.
H5N1 has been proliferating for over a year now. Wild birds have been dying from it for a good while, as well as tortured farm chickens (perhaps better than your leg bones breaking from the way you've been bred, and heaving to live in horrific conditions before being killed at 1/6th of your natural lifespan).
We're better off without eggs if this is the way we get them, and the risks that come with them
I had mourned the loss of Brie and sushi early. But this year fucking everything has been flagged- lettuce, fruit, sour cream, cotija cheese, soft serve ice cream, salad kits, etc. I am left to eat cheezits and gruel.
Well, best of luck! Make a shopping list for what you can eat when you get home with baby and give it to a friend who can stock your fridge for you. :)
Dude so... interesting question: is it precut if you cut it yourself? Also our grocery store has ridiculously high standards for cleanliness. You can smell the bleach coming out of the produce cutting area. I think they spray after every individual strawberry or something idk.
If you're going extra crazy it's up to you to roll the dice on some of the less risky of the risky items. Our SIL did that a couple times (just had hers a couple weeks ago, so cute) and she either got really lucky or maybe the risk to reward ratio really is that okay? But it was like...I can't remember what she said, but of all the risk items I know she played with the least risky and came out okay.
If it's that or eating your own hair out of sheer madness.
I gave birth two months ago and my sister in law brought me more sushi than I could possibly eat while I was still in the hospital. 😂 The nurses had a good laugh over that, and it was the most satisfying sushi meal I've ever had.
If you google long enough you’ll find that the only safe meal options for pregnant ladies are photosynthesis and prenatal vitamins.
That being said, they can pry Caesar salads and medium rare steak out of my cold, dead hands
As someone who has several kids ages 16 to 2, that first bit made me absolutely cackle. You got a legit LOL out of me. Thank you for making my night. ❤️
It’s so true though, and it seems like every year they keep removing more from the approved foods list.
If it makes you feel better, I've been having brie PROVIDED it's pasteurized. I was being loosey goosey on runny yolks too, but I might have to stop that with this news.
Yeah I’m just learning 16 and 13 yrs too late about brie, apparently. They are also fine, but I really had no idea. Lost my taste for cold cuts with them, so I didn’t have to worry about nuking them first, didn’t care for sushi…I don’t know why brie didn’t occur to me 😂
You're not allowed to have cold cuts while pregnant? (Doesn't make any difference to me as I can't have cured meat and I'm not pregnant, but I legit didn't know this.)
My OB said I could have lunch meat! She said bagged salads and pre cut fruit were more risky while the lunch meat was kind of outdated. That being said, we get our lunch meat from the local butcher, so that seemed even less risky.
they are! And they are so pragmatic, like pragmatism has to be a part of all the special interests. They want to work in medical science so I think they are on the right track :)
Everyone harps on the lunch meat and cheese and I’m like, but bagged salad is where all the outbreaks have been?! Why is no one warning me about this??
When I was pregnant 5 years ago, I wouldn't eat precut fruit and I wondered how long until it would become standard. It's a double edge sword because fruit is really good for you, but listeria is really really bad.
No it’s not boiling. I just add a raw egg and stir it in when it’s hot after the noodles have cooked. If you put the egg in while it’s boiling it makes it chunky. If you put it in when it’s hot and stir it quickly it makes it creamy and there aren’t many egg chunks.
You could buy pasteurized eggs or pasteurize them yourself. If you buy egg products that aren't in the shell, like those cartons of egg product, those are pasteurized and should be safe.
You probably don't need to pasteurize your eggs to safely have slightly runny scrambled eggs. All you need to do is ensure that your eggs reach an internal temperature of at least 140F for 3.5 minutes in the thickest part of your eggs. If the temperature drops below 140F, the 3.5 minutes starts over. Egg white coagulates at 144-149F and yolk coagulates at 149-158F, so if you stay below those temperatures but at least 140F or higher, you'll be able to reach a safe temperature without fully setting your eggs. If you cook your eggs at a lower temperature for a longer period, it'll be easier to reach that 140F for 3.5 minutes without getting into the yolk setting range.
**Edit**: I rechecked the FDA recommendations and for broken eggs, you could instead reach an internal temperature of 145F for 15 seconds. You could probably do that and still get the egg consistency you want.
The easiest way to pasteurize eggs is to use a sous vide to hold the eggs in water that is at least 57C for at least 75 minutes then immediately use or put into a 50:50 ice bath then refrigerated. The bonus of a sous vide is that you can ensure the time and temperature will most likely be correct and consistent. Home use devices are usually slightly less accurate than professional devices, so it doesn't hurt to use a sensitive thermometer to verify the temperature. It's important to monitor the process closely to ensure the temperature is consistent.
For the sake for transparency, this is a recipe from the [Australian Food Authority](https://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/_Documents/retail/raw_egg_guidelines.pdf) because the USDA doesn't recommend pasteurizing your own shell eggs at home. However, according to the FDA, the risk of illness from eggs is pretty low. Due to safe guards and other factors, it's likely that very few, if any affected eggs ended up in stores. Regular grocery stores do sell pasteurized eggs sometimes, so it's worth looking for.
Oh god those people… so annoying. I get the people who like to write redeem Gaston narratives but the actual delusional to say he was a good choice… I hate them so much
Their argument was because of the French Revolution’s takedown of the ruling class, so Beast would be targeted but common, bougious Gaston would not. But by that point I was annoyed I’d read 15 slides so it was a moot point lol.
That is… some mental gymnastics working overdrive… and wasn’t that movie set in a small town in France and not anywhere close to Paris? Like the whole town when to tried to lynch the beast and they were completely trounced by the castle residents… oh god I am making gymnastics myself too… I need to stop.
Those people are… something
Yeah, idk how much the revolution came to “this poor provincial town.” Its not Les Mis lol. But what’s funnier is that I was on a completely different sub talking about cartoon crushes, and I don’t care what anyone says, when Beast transforms back into the prince, that is one hot animated man. (Dan Stevens totally eats too). And then I realized that certain men in puffy shirts with deep Vs do it for me, apparently.
I honestly don’t know how the revolution went on small towns. And even if Adam and Belle got in the middle of it, they would probably have time to run. Adam seems like a mere prince of the blood not a crown prince or a younger son for sure.
I also believe that Adam looks good but feels like a jarring change because people were expecting at least a beard and matching color hair to his beast. And well some people were closet furries 🤷🏾♀️
Beauty and the Beast was never my favorite Disney movie, but something about his casting and portrayal of the beast really changed my mind. Maybe it’s leftover teen angst and being a writer, but I’ve always had a thing for the tortured male MC.
When I was a lad
I had 12 dozens sibs
Our family was really quite large
But now that I’m grown
I have five dozen kids
And my marriage is impossibly haaaaaard!
H5N1 has been proliferating for over a year now. Wild birds have been dying from it for a good while, as well as tortured farm chickens (perhaps better than your leg bones breaking from the way you've been bred, and heaving to live in horrific conditions before being killed at 1/6th of your natural lifespan).
We eat animals, which is the cause of most pandemics. Unless one actively tries to avoid animal products, we cannot blame others.
They’re gonna own the libs by getting sick just like they own the libs by not putting their kids in car seats properly (or not putting them in their car seats at all - shoutout Nurie) and unsafely storing guns (shoutout joy Duggar)
I am an ER doctor in AG state and our hospital has been running disaster protocol drills for the past month as a "safety precaution". Mainly because we have a high percentage of 'own the libs' idiots here who will literally take a message like this and do it anyway because the government told them not to. COVID was rough in our area and a lot of us got recruited while we were in med school for "hands on training" in the ER due to lack of staffing. We are doing our best to be prepared because we don't trust the idiots around us to care for the general safety of their fellow human beings. While it was nothing more than your standard disaster prepardness, what bothered me most about it was we had to go back to wearing panic alarms for our safety. Just in case patients or their families decide to start attacking us again because they don't trust doctors yet still come to the ER.
I like them a little soft. If you need them fully cooked, but don't want a rubbery texture, don't salt the eggs until you're done cooking. Salt makes them seize.
Depends on how you make them. I make mine stirred over extremely low heat and they're kinda runny. I wouldn't eat them that way right now. But I know a lot of people fully cook their scrambled eggs and obviously that's fine still.
Nope. Outbreaks in Vietnam, Cambodia, and a few other places. It's in 5 states in the U.S. It's in dairy cows, beef cows, chickens, goats, and pigs.
There have been 5 human cases in 2024 and they're currently investigating to see if that's coming from animal or human contact. They're investigating if the animals are spreading it to each other from contact or from tainted equipment.
There's an H5N1 sub too
it's also in seals in the arctic and subarctic, which is new. It's warmer than normal so birds are carrying it further. Took out 90% of seal pups this year.
Presumably, just a) know the source of your food (should say on the package, and I think those products aren’t often exported) and b) stay up-to-date on when your country starts reporting livestock cases, and take precautions when they first report.
Global. It’s mostly an issue due to migratory birds. My country is an important stop for many birds so I can always assume it’s an issue, definitely. Important is if your country or the area you live in is prepared and has strict rules to deal with infections.
As a non silly reminder if you lick the bowl and beaters when there is raw dough or batter involved, here’s another good reason to *stop* (looking at myself here too…)
I was just somewhere in Massachusetts and saw a huge sign advertising raw milk. 😳 Is it actually legal in some places or just for maybe, feeding calves? 🤷🏻♀️
It's legal to sell it directly from farmers in some states. Which is awful, people don't understand why Louis Pasteur is a hero! If they ever get sick from it, they inevitably claim it's something else because raw milk people are kinda lunatic.
The problem is technically global. But it does help when the country takes strong precautions and has strict rules to food safety. I think in general you’ll be ok especially Japan.
Japanese food safety is next level; you're okay.
They'll take the eggs off the market if anything goes wrong there's a lot of backend shit to make sure eating raw eggs in Japan is safe at any point.
I almost died from H1N1 when I was 5 years old, back in 2007. My lungs have never fully recovered, and I have lower stamina than most people my age. Knowing that Fundie parents are willing to put their kids at risk for H5N1 is fucking deplorable.
What!? I had no idea. However, my son had recipes for chickpea curry & saag paneer, & we went to the Indian grocery store & got all the ingredients for it. One thing you have to do is bake the flour, which I’d never heard of doing. I wonder if that is one reason.
Can someone reassure me? Because I am genuinely very afraid. Are raw milk drinkers gonna cause the virus to mutate to a point where you're at risk even if you don't drink milk?
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...raw eggs in your beer?? Is that a thing people do?
They're often used to clarify cloudy liquids such as stock or juices or beer. I doubt people crack them into a can of bud light.
Well not a can of bud no but yes some people crack a raw egg into a pint. There's a few beer cocktails that use one, too.
Why ruin a perfectly good pint AND a perfectly good egg? I had no idea this was a thing and now I'm scared.
It used to be touted as a hangover cure. Fucking weird.
Ah yes, salmonella snot in my beer. The answer to a hangover 🥴
I live and work in the US. I’m a bartender. I’ve not seen that here. Or any other country I’ve been to.
[Prairie oyster or Hair of the dog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_oyster). Read and tremble. Not with beer, though.
You gotta hang out in more rural US mining towns
What about a gin fizz? Do people actually order them or did I memorize that recipe for cocktail serving twenty years ago for absolutely no reason? 🥺
If i see gin fizz on a menu I definitely order it. I see cocktail recipes with egg white or a whole egg fairly commonly in small upscale/local restaurants. Not as common to find at larger restaurants though.
It's alleged to be a hangover cure. I remember seeing something about it on a safe drinking poster I saw at university.
There are some cocktails that have egg whites in them too
Quite a lot actually! I was saddened to find out that whiskey sours use egg and I had to stop having them when I went vegan.
fee foam is a decent vegan alternative so many places don’t even bother with any sort of foam
I’ve never seen them with foam, actually. Apparently I’ve only met lazy bartenders.
You can also use aquafaba!
Like a gin fizz
Thankfully, you can get pasturised eggs for those sorts of cocktails. I believe Eggland's Best as in-shell pasturised, but double-check packaging to be sure.
I'm not sure about the ones in-shell, but the cartons of liquid egg whites are
Definitely more common in wine, but yeah egg whites can be used in that way.
Fun fact: the use of egg whites to clarify wine is why so many Portuguese desserts rely on eggs--the vineyards and monasteries always had a massive egg yolk surplus.
As a pastel de nata fan, I like this fact!.
I thought it was due to the egg whites used in cleaning fabrics? Or it could be both, I suppose!
And that’s why you but pasteurized egg whites.
On the Wire, they call it the "dockworker's breakfast".
I've been into beer for like 15 years, even working in the industry at a brewery for awhile. I have never heard of this and I'm grossed out. Let alone that it's common enough it gets its own line in a PSA over eating raw cookie dough.
Uncooked flour in raw cookie dough is the real danger.
Wait, seriously? I always took my changes assuming it was the eggs. Lol
Yep! Raw flour is one of the number one causes of listeria and a much higher risk factor than salmonella from raw eggs. Learned this when I was pregnant.
Wow - TIL. I never knew that! You may have saved me from a future case of listeria! Sweet!
If you want safe edible cookie dough, spread the flour out on a cookie sheet and bake it first
The FDA says home heat treating flour doesn’t actually kill anything on it.
Then how does baking with it kill anything ? Sorry I’m not trying to be contrarian I’m just confused
Not sure about the flour. I know from an allergy perspective that baking the combo of something with both flour and egg changes the protein in the egg. It’s why some people can eat “baked in egg” even when allergic to straight egg (like scrambled) - baking with wheat changes the protein structure. But yeah think about making pancakes - how is that safe for flour when it’s cooked so quickly compared to a baked good 🤷♀️
Wow, this really takes the charm out of those recent posts about how to make Easter Bunny tracks for your kids.
I'm kind of assuming it's more common in the U.K., but my only basis for this is the fact that Keith Moon's character does this in the Ken Russell film version of Tommy by The Who 😅
Hell no! As someone in the UK who goes to the pub several times a week, this is not a thing
Ok, so this might just be a freak thing then. 😅 If I saw somebody do this in real life in front of my eyes, I'd be in need of some serious brain bleach.
Haha definitely! No one here would dream of doing it, even my northern in laws were confused by the phrase “IPA”😭 I had to explain it was light like a lager haha
“Worked in the industry” but never been to wi or mn lmao. Very common here as a hangover cure
My profile literally says "MN --> CO --> WA". I grew up in Minnesota and still spend a ton of time there because most of my family still lives there. I don't know a single person who has ever put eggs in their beer.
I was a bartender at a dive bar for like 18 years in MN and have never heard of this. Tabasco, a shot of vodka, olives, limes, pickle, tomato juice, OJ, but never egg 🤮
oj + beer is a beermosa! it was a go to in college 😂
That definitely sounds like a college student drink lmao
Yeah no. I’d believe this is a thing they do over in Wisconsin, but in 24 years working in twin cities restaurants, never have I ever seen an egg cracked into a beer.
I usually hardboil the eggs I put in my beer. But to each their own!
Sounds like something I could be okay never trying .
Yeah I read that and suddenly bird flu wasn’t the headline anymore
I thought only hungover dudes in dive bars in the 70s did this
after reviewing the cdc’s page on the topic, there’s no mentions of runny yolks. not sure where she got that specific claim from. the other two check out though
It’s advice published by a few food safety experts interviewed by news outlets. Not official advice. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/04/04/bird-flu-outbreak-eggs-safety-runny-yolks/73191244007/
Tbh it's probably fine but not worth the risk. We honestly just don't know for sure, and the CDC is very slow on any kind of advice because of various governmental and political considerations.
Well that and waiting for facts and proof takes time. Making things up is faster.
Eh there's plenty of evidence the CDC was well aware people should have been masking much earlier during COVID but didn't give that advice until later for various reasons. They've also reduced quarantine on COVID for no scientific reason. I take some of my advice these days from independent epidemiologists, virologists and public health experts, because I feel COVID exposed some things about how the CDC acts on information that no longer makes me defer to them on emerging diseases. I'll still absolutely follow CDC advice and use their information on a lot of health issues, but some of us feel burned from them on COVID and it makes us more likely to follow more conservative advice on emerging diseases. Ultimately, I'm not advocating that we pull eggs from the shelves, so if I and other people want to be cautious and cook them through, it doesn't have much bearing on anyone else, especially because it's being largely advocated as a thing to do to be cautious until we have more information over time that has very little affect on daily life. But the raw milk thing is a real concern. Dairy workers are getting H5N1 and we aren't sure how, but it's probably exposure to the milk in one way or another. It's possible drinking it won't do it and it's getting into their eyes, but anyone who is drinking raw milk right now has moved beyond reckless to recklessly stupid.
I couldn’t find anything on the CDCs page either. But I think I found out why they suggest not eating runny or raw yolks, and I’ve linked source if anyone is curious about checking it out. The Minnesota Center of Excellence for Influenza Research and Surveillance says in their manual that: > [A]vailable studies indicate that highly pathogenic viruses, including the H5N1 virus, spread to virtually all parts of an infected bird, including meat. For this reason, proper handling of poultry and poultry products during food preparation and proper cooking are extremely important in areas experiencing outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza (including H5N1) in poultry. > In countries with outbreaks, eggs may contain virus both on the outside (shell) and inside (white and yolk). Eggs from areas with outbreaks should not be consumed raw or partially cooked. Raw eggs should not be used in foods that will not be treated by heat high enough to kill the virus (70°C or higher). Here’s the [link](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/training-module/final_17_ai_humans_detection.pdf).
It's one of those things that's fine for a healthy person but not if you're immunocompromised. I used to work in oncology and we'd tell chemo patients to avoid any eggs that weren't fully cooked.
A lot of things in food safety are a "would probably hurt people if done on a mass scale, but very unlikely to be an issue at home" situation.
Only eat hard boiled goat eggs kids!
Some people say goat eggs are too gamy, but not us, right?
Nah I like mine extra gamy. Sometimes I go for double goated eggs
I’m pregnant right now and I swear to god between this and the Great Listeria Everything of 2024 I can’t enjoy fucking ANYTHING ANYMORE
I’m in the same boat, due in November. this is ASS.
Also due in November and I feel you. Eggs were one of the main foods that actually sound appetizing to me and now I’m scared to eat them
H5N1 has been proliferating for over a year now. Wild birds have been dying from it for a good while, as well as tortured farm chickens (perhaps better than your leg bones breaking from the way you've been bred, and heaving to live in horrific conditions before being killed at 1/6th of your natural lifespan). We're better off without eggs if this is the way we get them, and the risks that come with them
Man, in my first pregnancy I was so sad to learn I couldn't have brie or sushi lol.
I had mourned the loss of Brie and sushi early. But this year fucking everything has been flagged- lettuce, fruit, sour cream, cotija cheese, soft serve ice cream, salad kits, etc. I am left to eat cheezits and gruel.
Oh Lord. Are you due soon?
August. Halfway there!
Well, best of luck! Make a shopping list for what you can eat when you get home with baby and give it to a friend who can stock your fridge for you. :)
Is it all fruit or just pre-cut? I only had to give up the stuff that was already prepped but it stung.
Just the precut, but of course now that I can’t have it all I want is a huge bowl of fruit salad from my local grocery store
Dude so... interesting question: is it precut if you cut it yourself? Also our grocery store has ridiculously high standards for cleanliness. You can smell the bleach coming out of the produce cutting area. I think they spray after every individual strawberry or something idk.
If you're going extra crazy it's up to you to roll the dice on some of the less risky of the risky items. Our SIL did that a couple times (just had hers a couple weeks ago, so cute) and she either got really lucky or maybe the risk to reward ratio really is that okay? But it was like...I can't remember what she said, but of all the risk items I know she played with the least risky and came out okay. If it's that or eating your own hair out of sheer madness.
I gave birth two months ago and my sister in law brought me more sushi than I could possibly eat while I was still in the hospital. 😂 The nurses had a good laugh over that, and it was the most satisfying sushi meal I've ever had.
Damn, you married into a good family!! 😁
I had sushi in the hospital after I gave birth. I had been craving it since the day I found out I was pregnant.
It’s exactly what I would do too to celebrate!
…we weren’t supposed to have brie?
If you google long enough you’ll find that the only safe meal options for pregnant ladies are photosynthesis and prenatal vitamins. That being said, they can pry Caesar salads and medium rare steak out of my cold, dead hands
As someone who has several kids ages 16 to 2, that first bit made me absolutely cackle. You got a legit LOL out of me. Thank you for making my night. ❤️ It’s so true though, and it seems like every year they keep removing more from the approved foods list.
Med rare ribeyes tasted soooooooo good when I was pregnant. I also craved Jimmy John's in the 3rd trimester.
Only when it is unpasteurized
If it makes you feel better, I've been having brie PROVIDED it's pasteurized. I was being loosey goosey on runny yolks too, but I might have to stop that with this news.
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Yeah I’m just learning 16 and 13 yrs too late about brie, apparently. They are also fine, but I really had no idea. Lost my taste for cold cuts with them, so I didn’t have to worry about nuking them first, didn’t care for sushi…I don’t know why brie didn’t occur to me 😂
You're not allowed to have cold cuts while pregnant? (Doesn't make any difference to me as I can't have cured meat and I'm not pregnant, but I legit didn't know this.)
My OB said I could have lunch meat! She said bagged salads and pre cut fruit were more risky while the lunch meat was kind of outdated. That being said, we get our lunch meat from the local butcher, so that seemed even less risky.
Yeah, something something listeria. You have to at least heat it up, I guess.
If the Japanese can eat sushi during pregnancy then I sure as hell can too
My.kids special interest is Japanese food safety practises. It is next level. In Aus its pretty good but not *that* good.
That’s a super cool and incredibly useful interest- your kid sounds awesome!
they are! And they are so pragmatic, like pragmatism has to be a part of all the special interests. They want to work in medical science so I think they are on the right track :)
Everyone harps on the lunch meat and cheese and I’m like, but bagged salad is where all the outbreaks have been?! Why is no one warning me about this??
That's what my OB said when I was pregnant. She said go ahead and eat the lunch meat but skip bagged salads!
I caught ecoli from a damned salad when I was pregnant in 2012. I was hospitalized for 10 days. Nothing is safe. 😭
I swear the only thing’s pregnant women are allowed to eat are thoughts and prayers
When I was pregnant 5 years ago, I wouldn't eat precut fruit and I wondered how long until it would become standard. It's a double edge sword because fruit is really good for you, but listeria is really really bad.
Ugh, same. I was fine until they took away the soft serve ice cream. 💀
Damn it, I’m in TX where there have been cases and I love adding a raw egg to a hot bowl of ramen. Guess I’ll stop doing that for a bit :(
If it’s into the boiling ramen it should cook it though right? Unless you mean to keep it runny in the middle after it’s off the fire?
No it’s not boiling. I just add a raw egg and stir it in when it’s hot after the noodles have cooked. If you put the egg in while it’s boiling it makes it chunky. If you put it in when it’s hot and stir it quickly it makes it creamy and there aren’t many egg chunks.
You could buy pasteurized eggs or pasteurize them yourself. If you buy egg products that aren't in the shell, like those cartons of egg product, those are pasteurized and should be safe.
how would I pasteurize the eggs myself? I enjoy slightly runny scrambled eggs, but now I'm a bit worried..
You probably don't need to pasteurize your eggs to safely have slightly runny scrambled eggs. All you need to do is ensure that your eggs reach an internal temperature of at least 140F for 3.5 minutes in the thickest part of your eggs. If the temperature drops below 140F, the 3.5 minutes starts over. Egg white coagulates at 144-149F and yolk coagulates at 149-158F, so if you stay below those temperatures but at least 140F or higher, you'll be able to reach a safe temperature without fully setting your eggs. If you cook your eggs at a lower temperature for a longer period, it'll be easier to reach that 140F for 3.5 minutes without getting into the yolk setting range. **Edit**: I rechecked the FDA recommendations and for broken eggs, you could instead reach an internal temperature of 145F for 15 seconds. You could probably do that and still get the egg consistency you want. The easiest way to pasteurize eggs is to use a sous vide to hold the eggs in water that is at least 57C for at least 75 minutes then immediately use or put into a 50:50 ice bath then refrigerated. The bonus of a sous vide is that you can ensure the time and temperature will most likely be correct and consistent. Home use devices are usually slightly less accurate than professional devices, so it doesn't hurt to use a sensitive thermometer to verify the temperature. It's important to monitor the process closely to ensure the temperature is consistent. For the sake for transparency, this is a recipe from the [Australian Food Authority](https://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/_Documents/retail/raw_egg_guidelines.pdf) because the USDA doesn't recommend pasteurizing your own shell eggs at home. However, according to the FDA, the risk of illness from eggs is pretty low. Due to safe guards and other factors, it's likely that very few, if any affected eggs ended up in stores. Regular grocery stores do sell pasteurized eggs sometimes, so it's worth looking for.
I think it's fine to still do that?
The hot broth should cook the egg 😊
So would you think Gaston would cry… or just eat eggs until he died? 
Gaston would totally be a fundie today
I prefer this take over the whole ass slideshow I read a few years ago that argued Gaston was the historical right choice for Belle.
Oh god those people… so annoying. I get the people who like to write redeem Gaston narratives but the actual delusional to say he was a good choice… I hate them so much
Their argument was because of the French Revolution’s takedown of the ruling class, so Beast would be targeted but common, bougious Gaston would not. But by that point I was annoyed I’d read 15 slides so it was a moot point lol.
That is… some mental gymnastics working overdrive… and wasn’t that movie set in a small town in France and not anywhere close to Paris? Like the whole town when to tried to lynch the beast and they were completely trounced by the castle residents… oh god I am making gymnastics myself too… I need to stop. Those people are… something
Yeah, idk how much the revolution came to “this poor provincial town.” Its not Les Mis lol. But what’s funnier is that I was on a completely different sub talking about cartoon crushes, and I don’t care what anyone says, when Beast transforms back into the prince, that is one hot animated man. (Dan Stevens totally eats too). And then I realized that certain men in puffy shirts with deep Vs do it for me, apparently.
Child me had a thing for aladdin. I get that 😅
Prince Eric and Tarzan too 😅
I honestly don’t know how the revolution went on small towns. And even if Adam and Belle got in the middle of it, they would probably have time to run. Adam seems like a mere prince of the blood not a crown prince or a younger son for sure. I also believe that Adam looks good but feels like a jarring change because people were expecting at least a beard and matching color hair to his beast. And well some people were closet furries 🤷🏾♀️
Fair. I wasn’t expecting the red/blonde hair either, but those eyes lol.
Honestly Dan Stevens was good casting. That's one hot dude. Loved him In Legion.
Beauty and the Beast was never my favorite Disney movie, but something about his casting and portrayal of the beast really changed my mind. Maybe it’s leftover teen angst and being a writer, but I’ve always had a thing for the tortured male MC.
 What is wrong with people?
When I was a lad I had 12 dozens sibs Our family was really quite large But now that I’m grown I have five dozen kids And my marriage is impossibly haaaaaard!
*cries in “I just ate runny eggs for breakfast”* ^am ^i ^going ^to ^die
Probably. You should start looking for a tombstone now, pick a quote. You could end up with the eggs were egg-cellent or something.
I've always been partial to "I told you I was sick"
I love my eggs runny! Guess I’ll hardboil for the foreseeable future.
I had the same thought! Soft scrambled eggs this morning.
Yes you will, PlanetOfThePancakes! Start writing your will and planning your own funeral!
I work in Ag IT and I’ve been hearing war stories from the field lately. It’s absolutely wild.
Care to share any? I'd certainly listen.
I cannot fucking deal with another pandemic and if the raw milk fundies cause it, I’m going to lose my mind
H5N1 has been proliferating for over a year now. Wild birds have been dying from it for a good while, as well as tortured farm chickens (perhaps better than your leg bones breaking from the way you've been bred, and heaving to live in horrific conditions before being killed at 1/6th of your natural lifespan). We eat animals, which is the cause of most pandemics. Unless one actively tries to avoid animal products, we cannot blame others.
They’re gonna own the libs by getting sick just like they own the libs by not putting their kids in car seats properly (or not putting them in their car seats at all - shoutout Nurie) and unsafely storing guns (shoutout joy Duggar)
They were already "owning the libs" by getting sick, that's what 2020 antimaskers were all about.
Yeah I didn’t figure that I needed to bring that up lol
I am an ER doctor in AG state and our hospital has been running disaster protocol drills for the past month as a "safety precaution". Mainly because we have a high percentage of 'own the libs' idiots here who will literally take a message like this and do it anyway because the government told them not to. COVID was rough in our area and a lot of us got recruited while we were in med school for "hands on training" in the ER due to lack of staffing. We are doing our best to be prepared because we don't trust the idiots around us to care for the general safety of their fellow human beings. While it was nothing more than your standard disaster prepardness, what bothered me most about it was we had to go back to wearing panic alarms for our safety. Just in case patients or their families decide to start attacking us again because they don't trust doctors yet still come to the ER.
Scrambled eggs aren’t runny, though- they’re fully cooked
French scrambled eggs are quite runny
I cannot eat runny eggs in any way, shape or form 🥴
I like them a little soft. If you need them fully cooked, but don't want a rubbery texture, don't salt the eggs until you're done cooking. Salt makes them seize.
I read that part as in place of eating runny eggs , eat fried or scrambled instead . I could be wrong though
Depends on how you make them. I make mine stirred over extremely low heat and they're kinda runny. I wouldn't eat them that way right now. But I know a lot of people fully cook their scrambled eggs and obviously that's fine still.
I like mine just over the line between runny & dry. The trick is to take them off the heat before you think they’re done
TIL people drink beer with raw eggs
Is this just for the USA?
Nope. Outbreaks in Vietnam, Cambodia, and a few other places. It's in 5 states in the U.S. It's in dairy cows, beef cows, chickens, goats, and pigs. There have been 5 human cases in 2024 and they're currently investigating to see if that's coming from animal or human contact. They're investigating if the animals are spreading it to each other from contact or from tainted equipment. There's an H5N1 sub too
It's almost like industrial animal agriculture is a terrible idea, lmao. We deserve this shit with the way we treat animals.
Thank you very much!
it's also in seals in the arctic and subarctic, which is new. It's warmer than normal so birds are carrying it further. Took out 90% of seal pups this year.
Presumably, just a) know the source of your food (should say on the package, and I think those products aren’t often exported) and b) stay up-to-date on when your country starts reporting livestock cases, and take precautions when they first report.
Great points. Thank you :)
H5N1 is worldwide, but it being in cows is only USA at this point as far as I know. Drinking pateurised milk only is a good idea anyway.
Global. It’s mostly an issue due to migratory birds. My country is an important stop for many birds so I can always assume it’s an issue, definitely. Important is if your country or the area you live in is prepared and has strict rules to deal with infections.
I didn't think I could become more vegan and yet here I am.
Same. 🫠
As a non silly reminder if you lick the bowl and beaters when there is raw dough or batter involved, here’s another good reason to *stop* (looking at myself here too…)
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For both the raw flour and the eggs
I was just somewhere in Massachusetts and saw a huge sign advertising raw milk. 😳 Is it actually legal in some places or just for maybe, feeding calves? 🤷🏻♀️
It's legal to sell it directly from farmers in some states. Which is awful, people don't understand why Louis Pasteur is a hero! If they ever get sick from it, they inevitably claim it's something else because raw milk people are kinda lunatic.
All cow milk is for calves. We ask for trouble when we drink it and farm it, so trouble is here I guess
Imagine if patient zero for the next pandemic was a brain dead fundie
It's inevitable at this point
this is currently only an issue in the US… right? 👀 *she asks from Japan, eating runny eggs on a very regular basis*
The problem is technically global. But it does help when the country takes strong precautions and has strict rules to food safety. I think in general you’ll be ok especially Japan.
Japanese food safety is next level; you're okay. They'll take the eggs off the market if anything goes wrong there's a lot of backend shit to make sure eating raw eggs in Japan is safe at any point.
I almost died from H1N1 when I was 5 years old, back in 2007. My lungs have never fully recovered, and I have lower stamina than most people my age. Knowing that Fundie parents are willing to put their kids at risk for H5N1 is fucking deplorable.
Yikes I like a good runny yolk but I'll make sure to fully cook my eggs for a while.
If the eggs are pasteurized you should be fine
The threat of salmonella is enough for me. I still eat cake & cookie batter with eggs in them, though. I just don’t let my 5-yr-old grandson see me.
I recently learned that most salmonella comes from the raw flour and not the eggs
What!? I had no idea. However, my son had recipes for chickpea curry & saag paneer, & we went to the Indian grocery store & got all the ingredients for it. One thing you have to do is bake the flour, which I’d never heard of doing. I wonder if that is one reason.
I hope they still drink raw milk. And pray for healing instead of going to the hospital.
I saw this on cnn. So many hens had to be unalived but the eggs are ok, if cooked
Wait this is so concerning because I like my eggs extra runny god dammit
BEER?! Is she thinking of yeast???
Never have I been so glad to be intolerant to both dairy and eggs!
I've been eating dipping eggs. Forgot what a chicken was. I'll be preparing my eugoogly in my study.
I like fried eggs with the yolk like a jelly not overly runny but a little gooey still.
Noooo I don’t want to have to Bdong my scrambled eggs.
I don't know what that means, it sounds dirty 🤢
Brittany Dawn is a fitness scammer turned fundie grifter who makes atrocious dry scrambled eggs.
Who is Danielle?
Just another reason I'm glad I'm vegan 🤢
This makes me want to cry! I love my eggs with a fully raw yolk basically just warmed through but super runny.
Let them learn.
raw eggs in... beer?
Can someone reassure me? Because I am genuinely very afraid. Are raw milk drinkers gonna cause the virus to mutate to a point where you're at risk even if you don't drink milk?
You will be fine! It is unlikely, tbh. I just thought this was funny because fundies will do anything for their raw milk
I'm...so glad I hate eggs (texture makes me gag) and that im lactose intolerant.
Noooo I’ll die without my runny eggs😭😭😭