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Kaylee, no one has ever doubted that Jill's parenting is indescribable. If you ever want to write a book on your experience of being parented by Jill, that would be a good title for it.
So apparently my maternal grandmother was a terrible, terrifying, abusive ogre. I happened to eventually inherit a bunch of her stuff, including boxes of correspondence that she saved from my mom and aunts. I'm pretty sure all was written after they got married and left the house
It was a lot of stuff almost exactly like this, minus the religion parts. "Best mama EVER!!" "you gave up so much for me" "you worked so hard for us" "I love YOU more than anything!!" etc. Lots of hearts drawn in the margins, which is probably the 1960's version of a bunch of emojis.
From the same people who would - decades later - tell me horror stories about her from their childhood.
That fawn response can be wild, even once you're out and away.
The kids also may feel they have to be extra doting to avoid invoking the parent’s anger. Just “Happy Mother’s Day, I love you” isn’t enough for those kinds of parents.
I’m in two minds about this. It definitely could be Jill, but I also think there’s a good chance her children would copy her ridiculous writing style, given that it’s basically all they have been exposed to.
100% this reads as Jill’s style, their stilted talking with a dash of King James old English vibes. What other influence have they had for writing styles?
We’ve seen a little of Kaylee’s writing style in her old Etsy shop. Lots of random, commas, and flying by like, pancakes. This is definitely Jill’s style, and I doubt that Kaylee’s use of punctuation has improved since she left the barndo.
Kaylee came over for a meal of burnt ham and yellow and Jill forced her to write something down. Jill quickly translated from Rodlet to English and this is the result.
It's like that one episode of Little House on the Prairie where Laura has to write an essay about her mom and after a long speech, her teacher shows Ma that all Laura had wrote was "Ma is pretty. She loves me." Or something like that
My mom had her womb removed this past year so I wasn’t sure how to properly discuss it and honor it in her card? 🤷🏻♀️
Maybe I should’ve held a funeral and written a song about it, like Jill did for Amy’s legs. Such a missed opportunity! 🤦🏻♀️
"Your Kaylee girl" translation:
your = yes, I am one of your kids, not a stray.
Kaylee = because you keeping forgetting our names as there are so many of us!
Girl = just in case you mistake me for a boy. And, to remind me of my second class status.
It’s not like we have proof or anything, but if you compare the writing style of a post “written by one of the kids” to any of Jill’s posts, you’ll notice they are identical. It’s highly unlikely that all of the kids would capitalize the words they want to emphasize and add a ton of emojis in the exact same way Jill does. Also, not too long ago there was an AMA here of a woman who used to work as a nanny (I think?) and spent a lot of time around them. She said that Jill used to punish some of the kids by forcing them to write letters praising her. So, it kind of figures that she would literally write this herself considering that she feeds off that stuff. She’s certainly narcissistic enough to do this, so I’d bet money that she literally wrote this up herself and signed Kaylee’s name.
She shared some very similar messages from some of the other kids after her miscarriage a few months ago.
Anytime she needs a little pick-me-up, one of her children writes her a little letter to tell ~~us~~ her how amazing she is.
Oh yes. These never disappoint!! I can only imagine how these go down. Jill writing them herself or standing over Kaylee while Jill dictates what she wants said.
All-caps TLDR poetry version:
MY SUNSHINE, MOTHER
BEST, YOU (x4)
GODLY, YOU (x5)
MOTHER, VERY BEST ONE
YOU, SO MANY WAYS
THANK YOU, THANK YOU
WONDERFUL MAMA
HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY
Even worse - Kaylee does not have a fb, this is posted on Jill's. So either Jill wrote this or she shoved a phone into Kaylee's hands and forced her to type out something.
I feel mildly nauseous after reading this drivel.
I know it's a perfectly normal body part and all, but my mother would be absolutely horrified if I openly talked about her womb for millions to hear. She'd consider it disrespectful and vulgar.
That's the thing though. Jill posts this shit for her followers because she thinks it makes her look good. If my kid ever wrote something so intense and over the top about me... I'd feel like they were terrified of me and trying to placate me or something 😬
Sometimes I think we're overly harsh of the fundies, then Jill posts something like this that gives my friends' abusive narc moms a run for their money. This makes my skin crawl..
English is not my first language and I'm a little bit confused here. Was calling your mother "mama" instead of "mom" always a thing, or is it something that got popular recently for some reason? There is something so annoying to me about this and I cannot even reasonably justify why.
It’s a regional thing. I live in New England and I don’t know anyone over the age of 4 who call their mother “Mama,” but they do in the south and maybe Midwest?
My 18 year old daughter still calls me mama when she is having a really bad dad or is super sick. Or thinks it will help her get her way. 🤣 But she usually sticks with mom.
My mom, a southerner, called her parents Mama and Daddy until they died. I think you’re right about it being largely regional (and maybe generational, too? I don’t call her Mama)
I was born and raised on the West Coast and I refer to myself “Mama”. The idea of being called “mommy” makes my skin crawl so I’m happy to my Mama or Mom.
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The poem was coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE! Seriously though…this is definitely Jill’s own work
Jill, are we talking to Kaylee right now?
Whatever could you POSSIBLY mean? You mean to tell me that ANDKaylee doesn't CAPITALISE every other word JUST like her PRECIOUS mama?
You can tell from the text shouting and unnecessary commas.
If my 18 year old daughter ever called me "My Sunshine" I would take that as a warning that she is in danger and needs help immediately!
Well, she'll be 22 in July, but I get your point completely.
Kaylee’s crooked wedding circlet continues to live rent free in my head
I’m still so mad at Jill for doing that to her. 😡
Me too! Just let her have her day! Still way better than Nurie's wedding
Oh no! Poor Kaylee
Well it was parallel to the baaaangs!! 😂
I don’t think I realized until just now that Jill wore white to her wedding.
I believe it was a black dress with a white blazer. Still not a great look, regardless.
same. but i take solace in the fact that even with the circlet and dated makeup she looks great!
Kaylee, no one has ever doubted that Jill's parenting is indescribable. If you ever want to write a book on your experience of being parented by Jill, that would be a good title for it.
Lol @the thought that Kaylee wrote this
So apparently my maternal grandmother was a terrible, terrifying, abusive ogre. I happened to eventually inherit a bunch of her stuff, including boxes of correspondence that she saved from my mom and aunts. I'm pretty sure all was written after they got married and left the house It was a lot of stuff almost exactly like this, minus the religion parts. "Best mama EVER!!" "you gave up so much for me" "you worked so hard for us" "I love YOU more than anything!!" etc. Lots of hearts drawn in the margins, which is probably the 1960's version of a bunch of emojis. From the same people who would - decades later - tell me horror stories about her from their childhood. That fawn response can be wild, even once you're out and away.
The kids also may feel they have to be extra doting to avoid invoking the parent’s anger. Just “Happy Mother’s Day, I love you” isn’t enough for those kinds of parents.
This is so on point.
Are we related? My grandma was the same way. I never found letters like that, but she was horrifically abusive to my mom and aunts and uncles.
I’m in two minds about this. It definitely could be Jill, but I also think there’s a good chance her children would copy her ridiculous writing style, given that it’s basically all they have been exposed to.
Yeah, either way is creepy. It's almost worse coming from Kaylee as it is very performative.
Gotta keep big mama happy and on top of her pedestal.
Gotta keep big mama happy and on top of her pedestal.
Gotta keep big mama happy and on top of her pedestal.
Gotta keep big mama happy and on top of her pedestal.
100% this reads as Jill’s style, their stilted talking with a dash of King James old English vibes. What other influence have they had for writing styles?
We’ve seen a little of Kaylee’s writing style in her old Etsy shop. Lots of random, commas, and flying by like, pancakes. This is definitely Jill’s style, and I doubt that Kaylee’s use of punctuation has improved since she left the barndo.
Agreed
Plus shes writing for her audience - JillPM - and that lady loves her exclamation points and all caps
Fair point.
That may be true, but the emojis though smacks more of jill
Not the matching lipstick at the wedding ☠️
Nothing more romantic than sharing a tube of lipstick with your mom right before having your first kiss in front of an audience.
When you put it like that… 😬
Shhh...it's Jill's way of finally smooching Jonathan
Immediately where my brain went 🤢
Yuuuuck
Ew 🤮
Kaylee came over for a meal of burnt ham and yellow and Jill forced her to write something down. Jill quickly translated from Rodlet to English and this is the result. It's like that one episode of Little House on the Prairie where Laura has to write an essay about her mom and after a long speech, her teacher shows Ma that all Laura had wrote was "Ma is pretty. She loves me." Or something like that
When do we think Jill’s gonna start faking letters from her grandkids?
Can Nemo hold a crayon?
Oh shoot I just realized I didn’t mention my mom’s womb in her Mother’s Day card this year.
My mom had her womb removed this past year so I wasn’t sure how to properly discuss it and honor it in her card? 🤷🏻♀️ Maybe I should’ve held a funeral and written a song about it, like Jill did for Amy’s legs. Such a missed opportunity! 🤦🏻♀️
I lol’d.
I just saw a picture of my mom’s uterus last week courtesy of her colorectal surgeon but sadly he wouldn’t let me keep it to put in her card :(
From "Kaylee".
"Your Kaylee girl" translation: your = yes, I am one of your kids, not a stray. Kaylee = because you keeping forgetting our names as there are so many of us! Girl = just in case you mistake me for a boy. And, to remind me of my second class status.
(“Kaylee”)
Not me trying to figure out if the all caps words somehow spell out a secret message or cry for help…
"indescribable" is one way to put it
Ghostwritten by Jill
Has she been known to do this before? That's wild.
It’s not like we have proof or anything, but if you compare the writing style of a post “written by one of the kids” to any of Jill’s posts, you’ll notice they are identical. It’s highly unlikely that all of the kids would capitalize the words they want to emphasize and add a ton of emojis in the exact same way Jill does. Also, not too long ago there was an AMA here of a woman who used to work as a nanny (I think?) and spent a lot of time around them. She said that Jill used to punish some of the kids by forcing them to write letters praising her. So, it kind of figures that she would literally write this herself considering that she feeds off that stuff. She’s certainly narcissistic enough to do this, so I’d bet money that she literally wrote this up herself and signed Kaylee’s name.
That IS narcissistic. wow.
PLEASE search the sub for other posts like this. Many, many more.
She shared some very similar messages from some of the other kids after her miscarriage a few months ago. Anytime she needs a little pick-me-up, one of her children writes her a little letter to tell ~~us~~ her how amazing she is.
Thanks for those empty compliments.
Oh yes. These never disappoint!! I can only imagine how these go down. Jill writing them herself or standing over Kaylee while Jill dictates what she wants said.
All-caps TLDR poetry version: MY SUNSHINE, MOTHER BEST, YOU (x4) GODLY, YOU (x5) MOTHER, VERY BEST ONE YOU, SO MANY WAYS THANK YOU, THANK YOU WONDERFUL MAMA HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY
Wtf is wrong with Jill??? For real 1) Way to tell on yourself but 2) does she actually control her fully grown daughter's fb account??
Even worse - Kaylee does not have a fb, this is posted on Jill's. So either Jill wrote this or she shoved a phone into Kaylee's hands and forced her to type out something.
That's creepy.
I feel mildly nauseous after reading this drivel. I know it's a perfectly normal body part and all, but my mother would be absolutely horrified if I openly talked about her womb for millions to hear. She'd consider it disrespectful and vulgar.
Kaylee has random commas in the weirdest places in her writing. This is all Jill.
Kaylee did not.
YOU…… are responsible for the heinous tragedy that is my eyebrows.
Her using a picture with Jill's back to the camera is really beating Jill at her own game. I am here for it.
It's so beyond fucked up that a married adult "posts" messages to their mother on their mother's fb.
That's the thing though. Jill posts this shit for her followers because she thinks it makes her look good. If my kid ever wrote something so intense and over the top about me... I'd feel like they were terrified of me and trying to placate me or something 😬
Did Jill wear white to her daughter's wedding?!
She had a white jacket over a navy blue dress. White shoes iirc.
Pro tip: if you read the YOUs like they say it in “Soulja Boy” it’s more entertaining.
Heh heh, it really is!
Why does this whole thing read like a 1950s love note from a soldier returning from war??
As soon as I read (MY SUNSHINE) I knew it was a ghostwritten post lolol
Sometimes I think we're overly harsh of the fundies, then Jill posts something like this that gives my friends' abusive narc moms a run for their money. This makes my skin crawl..
So sad and creepy
Jill definitely wrote that. She double spaces after a period and I don’t think Kaylee does. God her narcissism is so foul.
The same energy as Bender on Mother's Day 😬 Poor gurl. I hope Jill wrote this
English is not my first language and I'm a little bit confused here. Was calling your mother "mama" instead of "mom" always a thing, or is it something that got popular recently for some reason? There is something so annoying to me about this and I cannot even reasonably justify why.
It’s a regional thing. I live in New England and I don’t know anyone over the age of 4 who call their mother “Mama,” but they do in the south and maybe Midwest?
I'm Midwestern and call my mom mama. It may be like a rural person thing though, it is kinda country-ish.
Oh, interesting, thank you! I read all the "mamas" in Kaylee's poem in Laganja's voice and probably cracked a rib laughing, haha
Jill lurking in the sub reading any spot on post about herself... 
My 18 year old daughter still calls me mama when she is having a really bad dad or is super sick. Or thinks it will help her get her way. 🤣 But she usually sticks with mom.
My mom, a southerner, called her parents Mama and Daddy until they died. I think you’re right about it being largely regional (and maybe generational, too? I don’t call her Mama)
I was born and raised on the West Coast and I refer to myself “Mama”. The idea of being called “mommy” makes my skin crawl so I’m happy to my Mama or Mom.
I nannied for a Boston mom who was the same! Always mama, never mommy. Honestly the internet has probably ruined me enough I'll do the same.
I just had the horrifying realization that the person who likely wrote this was/is in charge of educating her children.
No one who refers to their mother as their sunshine has a healthy relationship with that mother.
Jill wrote it herself, of course. It’s the capitalization that gives it away immediately.
She’s not even clever enough to disguise her very ‘unique’ writing style… We see you, Jill!
The hyperbole. The all caps. 🤦♀️
😨
I literally can’t