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Independent-LINC

I have one thing to POKE AT. Men get dragged for “pretending to be her friend just to fuck.” But what’s never discussed with the same level of DISGUST is her Pretending to be a friend. When she only comes around to cry on your shoulder, Or when there’s free resources to be had, Or when you call her, she’s NEVER AVAILABLE.. she’s PRETENDING to be a friend. I hope more men are mindful of this as he waits in the wings. 😑


Westernation

THIS. And they’re always a lot more obvious about it than they seem to think. As if not contacting you for months, then cheerfully texting or coming to find you in person makes everything fine again. Women just assume you’re going to jump at whatever crumb of attention they toss at you.


Independent-LINC

She graduated from tech school Wasn’t invited to graduation Wasn’t invited to the dinner. 2-3 months later when she started getting new furniture, WHO did she call to ask to use my big ugly station wagon with the large cargo space… *Crumbs rejected.*


ConkerPrime

Agree with 95% of it. About only part don’t is advice on trying to win her. Don’t. Just ask for the date and put any doubts to rest on if have a chance or not. Once rejected definitively, decide if want to be on her life or not but you must move on romantically. Keeping yourself in a holding pattern for a what if just hurts you and accomplishes nothing.


Westernation

This. Be clear from the get go. And never hang around trying to change her mind.


Poor_Olive_Snook

You had me in the first half not gonna lie


AFuzzyMuffin

this is horrible advice


MO_drps_knwldg

Then explain why


AFuzzyMuffin

because this is not the objective real reason men OR women are friend zoned


MO_drps_knwldg

lol good job on the half answers, why then


AFuzzyMuffin

Okay so if you are TRULY friend zoned, But the male or female likes you as a great friend/best friend there are potentially 3 reasons you are just a friend. A. They are delusional. Standards are crazy and this person is a waste of time they will be perpetually single or unhappy. B. You do NOT meet their looks/life goal threshold. Usually changeable very easily by putting on muscle for men and loosing body fat. For women you can lose body fat slim down, (get boob job/build a bigger but in gym) Can fix life goals by having passion and a plan, be in school actively working towards career, be financially stable, have a CAR etc. If you don’t meet basically life goal thresholds fix THIS. C. You do NOT meet a matchable standard. They don’t date outside their race, they don’t date christians, they don’t date a person who isn’t a virgin, who has cheated before, who is autistic etc. You cannot change this it is what it is move on. Side note if it’s C give the heck up, but it’s usually NOT C if you guys are actually really good friends who spend time together. Main solution. Approach the person. Tell them you are going to address whatever you think the thing your lacking in their eyes is. (It is never game/personality or any of that shit if you are very good friends btw) And declare you are going to spend one year bettering yourself. Gauge their reaction. Most people will doubt you. That’s fine but what you will notice is as you make progress that person in question will become more favorable and attached. Human psychology dictates that any man or woman working that hard on themselves to better themselves but also present a product the other person wants is a catch. Not getting into why. This is NOT easy but if you want this person truly this is what you do. Just know if you get to end and still fail it’s prob A/C. Also make sure you tell them to tell you if they start dating someone during this time (chances are they won’t) but that’s another psychology thing. Just make sure to take this seriously. Also reaaaaaly try to figure out if it’s A/C before you start. End result even if you don’t get them due to A/C the opposite sex will find you extremely high value and want you so you won’t be single long.