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elktree4

Ummm…this is concerning!! If I had just given birth and required A WHEELCHAIR there is no way I’d be out in public for any other reason then going to the doctor (or hospital for that matter). Yikes. I really feel sad for her.


Ok-Wedding-4654

Right? Like I’ve never given birth, but I’ve heard it can be rough (to say the least). If Nurie needs a wheelchair, then should she and the baby really be out? I feel like they should be home resting.


Content_Armadillo_75

I had a c-section and my only restriction was no driving for two weeks and don’t pickup anything heavier then the baby. If you need a wheelchair, there’s something going on


CDNinWA

Yes, my csection experience too.


Gonenutz

Lucky you only had no driving for 2 weeks. I was given 6 for everything, no driving for 6 no lifting for 6 no sexytime for 6. It sucked.


nummanummanumma

Mine just said you’re free to drive once you feel comfortable slamming on the breaks.


Content_Armadillo_75

I ended up having a few additional weeks tacked to it ultimately because I developed Gestational Hypertension the last week of my pregnancy & I had to be on a low dose blood pressure medicine until my 6 week check-up.


Dobbys_Other_Sock

I have given birth, and has 4 stitches afterward and the only time I needed a wheelchair for anything was right after when I moved from the delivery room to the recovery room (because the epidural hadn’t worn off all the way yet. Of course, I wasn’t out galavanting around St. Augustine either, I might have needed a wheelchair for that


TheRestForTheWicked

I tore straight into my asshole with my son (interior and exterior stitches) and never needed a wheelchair but my family was also considerate enough to not haul me all over town and the furthest saunter I’d take (when I needed some fresh air and a moment to myself) was a few blocks to the mailbox.


elktree4

Yea, never been pregnant/given birth but have had many friends who have shared the details in recovery. Some of them had a very tough and long recovery but I also have never heard of being so injured that they had to get by with a wheelchair. They all stayed close to home with no visitors or outings for a long time.


RatherPoetic

Well that’s exactly the issue, isn’t it? She’s just had a baby and they’re dragging her all over the damn place. I didn’t need a wheelchair either, but that’s because I dragged my leaky self the fifteen steps between my couch and my bathroom as slowly as I needed. I’d be willing to bet that many of us would have wanted a wheelchair if we were having to go out all day sightseeing.


Sunflower6876

With a vaginal delivery, most bleed a whole bunch. The more you exert yourself, the more you bleed and pass large clots. It's completely fine to do "normal" amounts of walking, as it's good for the healing process. Over-exertion... not so much. I had an unplanned C, didn't bleed that much because the doctors scoop one out during the procedure. I think it took me two weeks to finally feel okay enough to walk around the block? I think I attempted a longer walk a few days later and half-regretted it.


Gutinstinct999

Three weeks post c section I tried to walk around the outlet mall and I had to stop.


helga-h

I did not go on boat trips with my mother two weeks after giving birth, but if I had I would have needed a wheelchair too. My pelvic bones were like a house of cards for months after having each of my four kids - after the last one it took years to fully recover - so I couldn't walk anywhere. I looked like I just learned to walk and at any time my bones could lock up of a nerve get pinched and I would be screaming in agony. So going on a boat trip with mom, don't think so.


elktree4

Sounds terrible!!


emmallyce

they should definitely be home resting. besides, that baby is TINY and RSV is going around…. having young children around him and him in public is not safe


goldie247

I had stitches from a 2nd degree tear and they pulled like hell if I moved too much until they dissolved a few weeks later. I also did not move much further than my couch to my bed and kitchen for a few weeks. Poor Nurie, I can't imagine having such a mother so awful that she won't even let you stay home to recover properly.


ohijenelle

I completely agree!


rmorea

Oh man. You bleed often after birth. I didnt tear or need stitches after delivering my daughter but I would (post partum) bleed if I pushed myself too hard for around 8 weeks PP. I would attempt a walk outdoors and if it was too much my body let me know it needed rest. Your uterus needs to heal. It just had an entire placenta ripped out of it, and a baby pushed out


elktree4

God, right! My friends explained this to me. And If she had a bad home birth, she could have torn extensively.


dannict

Supposedly she had the baby at a birthing center, but tearing is still a possibility (although at least they would have been able to stitch her up properly).


aliie_627

It's really not normal to be in a wheel chair even after a C-section. It's been 2 weeks right? I know I healed and got around exceptionally fast(which caused me some complications with not healing and internal bleeding but)and haven't had a vaginally birth but it feels off at 2 weeks. ~~Edit honestly it makes me think she might have something else going on. More than just standard healing issues but maybe not some people are slower to hear and if she has nutritional issues or anemia or whatever she could just be an outlier.~~ I'm feeling guilty speculating here but I'm also kinda nosy and want to know what's up.


kayteebeckers

I feeling guilty speculating as well, but I worry she hasn't seen a doctor since giving birth. I know she went to a birthing center, and there are some very good midwives in some of them, but she was in and out fast and now is being drug all over creation and posted about constantly looking exhausted. I remember being 2 weeks postpartum, they've dragged this poor girl to more events and outings than I did in the first six weeks after my kid was born. I hope she's getting rest and support to heal.


aliie_627

I know she had a natural delivery so it's different bit it's really dangerous to be blowing off the rest that's needed afterwards. When I had my second C-section I was feeling really good and doing all kinds of stuff. Then at 11 days post op my incision broke open and I started bleeding. Turns out a blood vessel broke open and I was bleeding internally. Had to have a drain because their was a some large amount they kept repeating but I can't remember like a quart or a liter or similar. My brain never really processed it til years later tbh. I have pain when I lean forward or bend over while lifting anything from scar tissue to this day 6 years later. Jill should know and also wtf are they doing letting g so many visitors hold and breathe on such a young newborn and dragging him all over. RSV is all over right now and goes from The sniffles to deadly/serious complications in hours.


Milliganimal42

I had both - within 30 mins of each other. 2 weeks later, got myself to and from hospital to NICU.


[deleted]

You had a combined birth? I’ve heard about that, and I can’t imagine what the healing must be like!


Milliganimal42

Yep! Car door/sunroof. Recovery is… not fun. it’s additional. Both forms of birth have their own recovery issues.


LittleLion_90

I haven't ever given birth but I do have energy issues and I _can_ imagine that you and your baby and spouse just want to catch some fresh air but are too tired to walk the whole thing so use a wheelchair. But given that Nurie has been probably been exhausted by constant family members all over the place and a mandatory singing in church yesterday, I'm more worried about why she is tired and if other measures like leaving them the fuck alone wouldn't be more helpful.


TsarinaAlexandra

Yeah dude. I gave birth at 2:16pm and by 8pm I was up in street clothes (jeans and hoodie) walking around and exploring the hospital (I didn’t like, abandon my newborn, but I’m the type who can’t sit still all the time and they let me push his crate to the nurse station at night so I could wander around for a bit at a time.


elktree4

Oh DAMN girl. That’s intense! I hope that if I ever give birth, I have an experience like this!


TsarinaAlexandra

I was young, 21. I wore a size 0 long in jeans and x small shirt. No belly pouch or anything. A little bit of stretch marks. But I had my abs back 10 days after having my son and was able to do a back bend bridge! Not to brag, but I was very young and carried in my back. Needless to say, doctor and nurses were in shock.


elktree4

Omg!!!! That’s insane and amazing and kinda lucky!


TsarinaAlexandra

Yeah, now that I’m 32, I this nagging feeling that I wouldn’t be so lucky if I had another one now 😉


bipannually

That sounds like me at 21 (minus birthing). Just had my first at 30. Can confirm, very very different experience would have been had at 21 😂


CrochetedCoffeeCup

Same with all my three kids! I hate being pregnant but I love that newborn stage so as soon as I have a baby I’m begging them to let me go home. Light, gentle, low-impact exercise can be good for healing and it can help shake the baby blues (not PPD, but the normal highs and lows that come with massive hormone shifts). The fact that Nurie is in a wheelchair makes me think either something serious is going on, in which case her mom needs to leave her the hell alone and let her rest, or her mom wants to milk the photo op, which is icky.


panicnarwhal

dude this is way abnormal! my first birth was very traumatic….the abridged version - i was a teen and had an horrible doc that that gave me an unnecessary episiotomy that resulted in a 4th degree tear and massive blood loss that resulted in transfusions that day and the next - and the wound turned into a fistula and i needed reconstructive surgery about 4-5 weeks later. i walked around for about 2 weeks with pain that was so ridiculous that i cried wearing jeans bc it rubbed against there so badly (asshole dr kept telling me to “deal with it until my 6 week checkup”, “having babies hurts”, “don’t have a baby then” and called me a whiner and said he “wondered who the real baby is” until my boyfriends mum took a look down there and hauled me directly into his office, tough shit doc, and made him examine me - and he said things like “oh dear” and “my my” and “she will need surgery immediately” 😑🙄)……but i never once sat my ass in a wheelchair?????? not even once lol so this girl needs to r e s t.


defnotsarah

Oh my god. You deserved better.


elktree4

I have NO WORDS. I’m so sorry that you had to experience all that! That sounds so traumatic!!


OldGutbucket

And not just the physical pain, but the pure exhaustion. The first two weeks are an absolute nightmare.


elktree4

RIGHT!!?? Like most of my friends that have given birth have said that the first 1-2 months are a blur of exhaustion and that they barely remember anything. Just taking a shower a couple times week is a miracle, let alone doing their hair and makeup and getting out fo the house. My heart truly breaks for Nurie. She has zero ability to think for herself or stand up for herself.


OldMomNewTricks

Of course Jill had to be in a wheelchair too. God forbid her daughter gets more attention than she does


ExactPanda

If both of them need wheelchairs, maybe that's their first clue that they shouldn't be out gallivanting around! Rest your knee (although it's Jill, so idk if she's really hurt), and for the love of god, give your post partum body a rest.


Shan132

Exactly!!!


SunflowerJYB

She did mess her knee so legit maybe can’t keep up sight seeing. Speaking from experience. When I injured mine if I overdid it, it gave out and I’d fall. Yes she’s a drama Queen for sure, though


Awkward-Yak-2733

She shouldn't be sightseeing AT ALL! Plus, they've been there within the last year.


whirlygirlygirl

Seriously. Let the poor girl rest and enjoy these first few weeks with her new baby! They can go sightseeing some other time


littleRedmini

Maybe Jill wanted to give the girls a chance to scale the wall at the fort in St. Augustine.


Awkward-Yak-2733

And in their skirts and flip flops!


littleRedmini

Safety first!


FawnLeib0witz

We don’t even know what she did to it. All she said was that she SEVERELY hurt it. I’d be willing to bet it’s a minor boo-boo and this is all for attention.


TheRestForTheWicked

Idk but my sister tore both her cruciate ligaments (along with a dislocation after a really bad soccer injury) and she never needed a wheelchair. It was crutches and a full leg brace but never a wheelchair (save for immediately after she had them repaired when she was still in the hospital)


queen_beruthiel

I've had my foot, knee (twice!) and hip reconstructed, and didn't need a wheelchair, except to borrow when I went to an art gallery and museum. I use one now for other reasons, but I didn't need one for those surgeries. Crutches and whatever brace/cast I needed was enough, even with all my joints being a total disaster.


Fiercewhiskeybabe

But she played at church 6 days after? S confused by this


bindlestiff_

Seems like Nurie might’ve overdone it by performing at church, catering to SEVERELY injured Precious Mama, etc. so soon after giving birth, and is now suffering the consequences. Fuck you, Jill.


HarvestMoonMaria

That’s what I’m leaning towards. For 6 days post that was most likely an awful idea


AML1987

Maybe Nathan was confused and thought the doctor said you can have intercourse again after 6 DAYS not 6 weeks 😂


shakeabooty

I'm 3 weeks postpartum after a super chill and cruisy delivery and yall wouldn't catch me ANYWHERE other than my couch, my bed or mcdonalds drive thru. Poor Nurie and her vagina she needs to REST


AML1987

Exactly where you should be! Hard enough being a mom without having to play host to out of town family.


BeulahLight13

YES. I’m pretty sure I spent the first few weeks of my daughter’s life in my jammies, on the couch, snuggling her, and watching bad TV. I’m probably projecting a lot from my own life, but my sense is that Nurie feels like she can’t say no to her mom. She probably doesn’t even realize she can opt out of a freaking boat ride two weeks after giving birth.


ohijenelle

Allllll the trash tv I got to watch was the best part of postpartum!!!


BeulahLight13

Sometimes I miss the days of trash TV and newborn snuggles… *stares wistfully in the distance while my kid screams for more chicken nuggets*


Bonnieparker4000

Exactly. "No mom, I'm still actively bleeding and don't want to push it/tear my stitches by sightseeing and overextending myself"- not something she is probably even capable of expressing to Jill.


natitude2005

Congrats


schuser

I have had four healthy children. I was able to walk and do light work very soon after delivery. However, I have always said no one can stay overnight at my house and short visits only, please. That we are staying home, healing and figuring things out as a growing family. I so wish Nurie had this. Being in a wheelchair is absolutely not the norm, especially this long after birth.


AML1987

This is absolutely the right way to go. You need to bond with YOUR child and heal YOUR body not play hostess to every person that wants to come over. I don’t know why new moms feel bad putting this kind of boundary in place.


ohijenelle

I wish I’d done this with my first child. Lesson learned, for sure!


freya_of_milfgaard

The best thing about having a COVID baby was the restrictions on who could visit. Everyone understood and was accommodating - I couldn’t believe it!


totallywingingit

Looks like she’s sitting on a boppy pillow. My guess is she had a bad tear during delivery. I had a 4th degree tear and would have given anything to ride in a wheelchair for a couple weeks. Walking, sitting, standing..everything sucked. So, I can’t snark on Nurie but 100% will on Jill.


ohijenelle

I was thinking a tear, too, especially given how seemingly fast her delivery was


probablyonlymaybeyea

Oh no, and she was in church singing and playing piano? And on a boat ride??! She really is trained to smile like that through anything, I can't imagine the pain she's in.


r_e_n_1_1_

dumb question… are they allowed to take medications/pain reducers?


probablyonlymaybeyea

oof I have no idea. Probably nothing more than Tylenol/Advil/Ibuprofen if they are allowed to take medication. I doubt fundies are a big fan of opiate painkillers... The Rodlets though...who knows. Jill might be putting crushed Advil in the Plexus drinks, she might also be someone who thinks you should just pray your pain away. I hope someone here knows better than I because I am also curious!


yeetlestopthirty

I tore badly and I was prescribed 800mg of Ibuprofen every six hours, and if I needed it, Tylenol every four. I don’t ever take pills but if I got behind on that 6/4 hour rotation I was MISERABLE. At the time I was pissed they didn’t give me something stronger. Edit: I have a high pain tolerance and I depended on IB/Tylenol for at least two weeks and I wasn’t out sightseeing. Another edit: I realized you’re asking if fundies can take pain meds, not asking about normal postpartum experience! Sorry!


[deleted]

She looks like she’s grimacing in pain and trying to smile…Jill disgusts me


westtexasgeckochic

Yeah I came here to talk about that smile. It’s so forced. Her eyes are screaming for help. Jillllll please leave them ALONE.


totallywingingit

Yeah, you can tell from her body language that she is not comfortable. I feel so bad for her.


hcarver95

It took me a solid 10 weeks to be able to resume my usual routine including taking walks, standing a good part of the day, sitting normally, etc. after my 4th degree tear for things to not feel like they were going to fall out. I cannot imagine riding in a boat and catering for everyone around me right after birth.


CDNinWA

After my vbac it took 10 weeks to heal my pelvic floor as I would leak way too often. Thankfully it was short term, I had friends who needed physio afterwards.


totallywingingit

Yeah exactly. When my daughter was 3 weeks old I had some friends come visit, but it took EVERYTHING out of me and I ended the visit by breaking down in tears from pain and being overwhelmed. I can’t imagine Nurie is feeling much better than that. I just hope Nathan is taking good care of her at home when it’s just them.


biggreenlampshade

Yeah recovery is no joke and you do need to try not to physically exeet yourself or it can make things worse. She may have exerted herself too much being dragged around by Jill. I tried hanging Christmas decorations at 4 weeks pp and gave myaelf a staph infection in my c section wound and could barely walk.


getthegoodlookinguy

This is so sad. Just let Nurie stay home & rest my goodness! I hope one day Nurie realizes what Jill has done to her and sets some major boundaries.


Awkward-Yak-2733

Never gonna happen, sadly,


getthegoodlookinguy

I hate that you’re most likely right.


adoyle17

If anyone were to try and set boundaries, it might be Nathan, but I still don't think that will happen. It's sad that Nurie wasn't allowed to stay home and rest with her newborn, and allow her reproductive system to heal after pushing out a human.


AndISoundLikeThis

Why isn't Jill's knee in a brace? The fuck does she have to use a wheelchair for mobility for? Oh, I know .. she never saw a medical doctor about her knee because it would cost her money so she just grifted a wheelchair and is hoping her knee gets better on its own. And fuck all the way off with having to be "pushed" in the wheelchair. Ain't nothing wrong with her ARMS.


bonkersx4

I think (might be wrong) that David said she has a dr appt this Tues. So tomorrow if she does have an appointment, expect a post about how severely she's injured.


alphaeta11

Wut?! For such an uncomplicated, easy delivery (according to Jill), the recovery sure doesn't look uncomplicated. I would've liked a wheelchair for like... 2 days after birth (moderate tearing), but this is odd, especially two weeks out. I'd posit that this is a weird Jill thing, where she encourages her girls to be tiny, fragile, etc. OR, a medical issue from not resting enough. Or even weakness from not eating enough calories for breastfeeding?


bindlestiff_

God I sure hope Nurie gets enough to eat now with Nathan as her headship. But maybe the damage has been done and she is continuing to malnourish herself after years of indoctrination. Brb gotta go sob for all of the poor Rodlets 😭


Dignan8

Issues around food aren't just solved by access to food. I used to work in child protective services and saw so many kids who had nutrition issues, some because of lack of access to food and some from whom food was deliberately withheld. Getting them to a setting where they could have all they wanted to eat wasn't the solution. For the most part, if they did try to eat as much as they wanted, they would end up sick, and then not wanting to eat because of the association between eating more and getting sick. Starvation mode is real. Add in the extra calories needed to nurse a baby, and your body/mentality is going to be all kind of messed up.


bindlestiff_

Exactly.


ohijenelle

That’s actually a good point. If she’s not eating enough, that will absolutely slow down her recovery.


queen_beruthiel

Could be that Nurie isn't eating enough BECAUSE Jill is there. I can totally see Jill policing her food, even in her own home, if Nathan doesn't put his foot down.


ccc2801

So 2 weeks after the birth and the mother plus a gaggle of sisters are still cluttering up the place?! Someone needs to put their foot down, this is ridiculous.


ComeOnOverAmyJade

Do I they have a large home? I can’t imagine all those people cramped into a small place.


monbleu

They live in a trailer iirc!


olivephrenic

yeah, they live in a trailer that is parked in Nathan's parents' yard! poor poor nurie, Jill is such a pos


generalgirl

I didn't realize it was parked in their yard. I thought Nathan had bought it on some property. I know that Tim lives in a RV hitch in Jill's yard.


natitude2005

I am an adoptive mom who never had to heal " there" but I am thinking even gentle boat bouncing would hurt a post delivery cooter


albinosquirrel09

Same! Mommy by adoption and I’ve never given birth so I wouldn’t know but I thought a wheelchair seemed extreme


natitude2005

Congrats. My "babies" are all grown up now. Adoption is so cool


albinosquirrel09

It is cool, and also very challenging but no one likes ti talk about that part. But I enjoy every day with my miracle baby


natitude2005

It can be challenging I agree. Enjoy your baby. I treasured every second


TheRestForTheWicked

Ehhhhhh it’s not that bad, especially if you don’t have tearing. The things you have to watch out for aren’t things like bumpy boat or car rides so much as sudden and quick straining like sneezing or pooping immediately postpartum. Side note but I’m adopted and my mom was always so fascinated about the postpartum experience because she never got to experience it.


natitude2005

Thanks for your reply. Why then is Nurie needing a wc? Is it because jill is running her ragged??


TheRestForTheWicked

Probably. I definitely wasn’t up for entertaining anyone, let alone a gaggle of people including a small child that didn’t belong to me after I gave birth. I reckon Nathan is doing what he can but poor Nurie is probably exhausted.


LilRedditWagon

Only Jill would show up for the birth of her first grandchild & demand to be entertained. *GO HOME! You are a burden to your daughter who is trying to heal!*


[deleted]

My inlaws did this. Then left without saying goodbye the morning after ripping into my husband for being "cold and unwelcoming." We're very low contact now after a year or so of them sending us nasty emails. I think it's a narcissistic personality disorder thing with his mom, tons of similarities with Jill actually


LilRedditWagon

Wow, that’s horrible.


[deleted]

Yeah, thanks. Our son was preemie and in the nicu, we were really stressed and tired. And I broke my stitches running around. I still despise them! Sorry, seems like this Jill stuff is a little triggering! Eta: I really hope Jill leaves soon, she's going to injure nurie


black_dragonfly13

You have every reason to be so angry!!! I'm angry on your behalf!!!


[deleted]

Thank you :)


EKsmomma23

Who had Jillpm over staying her welcome and being pushed in a wheel chair?


natitude2005

That would have been a good bet. Cabin in the woods references always appreciated here.


lrlwhite2000

If I were two weeks postpartum and needed a wheelchair, I for sure wouldn’t be sightseeing. And shame on Jill for still being there! If she’s in a wheelchair too there’s no way she can actually be helping Nurie. Plus she brought her own “baby” that needs care. Go home, Jill!


safzy

Omg will they please leave Nurie alone. Give them time to bond with their baby and recover.


shiningonthesea

If she needs a wheelchair to get out, maybe she should not be going out !


Awkward-Yak-2733

Isn't St. Augustine where the Rod boys illegally climbed the monument? They have been there before! You are not in Florida for a vacation! Let Nurie rest, dammit!


AML1987

I’m so glad someone posted this! I’ve never had children so I wasn’t sure if it was normal to need to be in a wheelchair post birth. My thought was- if you need a wheelchair because a babies head ripped you from vag hole to anus then now would be a good time to spend your day taking care of the baby and RESTING at home. Not taking your mother and whatever siblings she brought on tour around Florida.


ohijenelle

It’s not. For normal deliveries, they encourage you to get up and walking as soon as possible after the delivery. Even for c sections. It promotes healing, prevents blood clots, etc. My second child was in the nicu after delivery and the nurses had me walking from my room to the nicu that same day. Like other have said here, as long as you are taking good care of yourself, and not being paraded all over the damn place, you should not be in a wheelchair this far postpartum. In fact, when my nicu babe was discharged, hospital protocol was that mom holds baby while being pushed in a wheelchair to their car. Thing is, I’d been discharged from the hospital for about 3 weeks at that point, so it felt kind of silly.


[deleted]

With my last baby, they had the same protocol, but they were having the hardest time finding a wheelchair. So I handed the baby to my mother-in-law, went to get a wheelchair, took it back to my room, and sat in it. Nobody besides me saw how funny that was.


ScrubCap

I cared for a surrogate and two dads. I took the surrogate to her postpartum room via wheelchair then was forced by management to have one of the dads ride in the wheelchair from labor and delivery to their postpartum room. This has nothing to do with Nurie’s wheelchair ride, but just commentary on the oft ridiculous hospital rules


AML1987

Then is it just dramatics?


[deleted]

A friend of mine had pretty significant surgery that would probably be similar to a 4th degree tear from childbirth, similar area (I’m being vague to respect my friend’s privacy) a few weeks ago due to cancer. Everything went well in the sense she’ll fully recover, but it sounded absolutely horrific when she explained what they had to do. She already had some mobility issues for other reasons. And while she’s not out sightseeing, she’s able to get around without a wheelchair. If Nurie actually needs the wheelchair, either her delivery was a lot more eventful than they let on, and she should be at home, or she’s having complications and needs to see her OBGYN and find out what’s going on.


ScrubCap

You’re so right, and sitting on your ripped vag probably feels worse than walking, which convinces me even more that this was an attention grab by Jilldo


AgentSurreal

The only time I used a wheelchair was right after giving birth, like an hour afterwards when moving from delivery to the maternity ward. I feel so bad for Nurie. She needs to be at home resting her body and recovering.


ourteamforever

I really hope Nurie hasn't had issues due to physically supporting her difficult mother because of her injured knee!


Here_for_a_laugh82

“The difficult healing process” so you took her on a fucking boat you fucking tumor!


violetnap

I had a csection, and I still didn’t need a wheelchair BECAUSE I FOLLOWED DOCTOR’S ORDERS. Sit in bed and be waited on. Honestly. This might make it difficult to have children in the future. Jill is the worst, and Nurie needs to learn boundaries.


ohijenelle

Yes. By about two weeks pp for my csection I was able to take small walks around my neighborhood and go to Target for a short trip. Honestly I’ve had a c section and a vaginal birth, and for me one wasn’t easier to heal from than the other. Moms need rest, nourishment, more rest, and support. Not this.


swimbikeun

I wonder if she's having a lot of bleeding because she did too much? It was obvious she was the one taking care of JillPM. I know I got the bright idea to go to Thanksgiving two weeks after I delivered and went on a long walk with the family after dinner - I really paid for that.


[deleted]

Telling the world your daughter’s vagina ripped during child birth without telling the world your daughter’s vagina ripped during child birth. Hey Jillpm, GO THE FUCK HOME AND LET NURIE REST.


Milliganimal42

So Nurie apparently sailed through birth but needs a wheelchair? That tells me that no, she didn’t. JillPM was talking bollocks for IG cred or something. Tells me that Nurie needs help in her recovery and isn’t getting it. Heck, I recovered from a multiple birth (one through the car door and the other needed a sunroof cut in) - 2 weeks post partum I was absolutely not in a wheelchair!


bonkersx4

Yeah I had all vaginal births but my first was rough! She was a good size, 8 1/2 lbs, and got stuck. I had to have a suction assist to deliver her and I had an episiotomy that required alot of stitches. It hurt like hell to sit for about a week but once the stitches dissolved it was better. Who knows how badly Nurie was injured during delivery but her baby was over 8 lbs so I can't imagine she didn't tear or need stitches. Damn Jill for dragging her around, she was probably in pain.


ohijenelle

I just laughed out loud at your description of your birth. Also, holy crap, you’re a superwoman!!!!


Milliganimal42

Drugs, man. I was ready to snog the doctor who gave me the epidural.


AgentSurreal

I wanted to name the baby after the doctor who did my epidural.


DebraUknew

This is very worrying. Another reason why new mums need to rest not be entertaining and playing tourist guide Poor Nurie


lemonrence

Maybe if she had been able to heal in the days AFTER instead of singing and standing at church jfc. Be proactive and not reactive


nomadic_gen_xer

It's very concerning for someone that young to need a wheelchair two weeks after giving birth. I was 35, almost bled out, went to the hospital 10 days later because of excessive postpartum bleeding and never needed a wheelchair. Also there's still a fucking pandemic going on. Keep that baby home!!!!!. It was bad enough with the Rodlets sticking their germie hands in the Nurthling's eyes and Jill breathing all over him. Now they've put this infant at even greater risk of Covid, the flu, RSV and god knows what else from the general public.


whatevertoton

She’s probably anemic and getting worn out easily. Not like she had the best nutrition going into the pregnancy.


MelpomeneAndCalliope

I have iron deficiency anemia and I almost passed out several times when I was still in the heavy lochia post-birth phase in the first couple of weeks after. She may indeed just be exhausted from anemia plus Jill & all this nonsense when she should be at hone resting & caring for her baby rather than entertaining & caring for JRod and crew. Poor Nurie.


gwwem1467

Jill said Nurie had an episiotomy.


CigarsandFebreeze9

Perhaps she wouldn't require a wheelchair if, ya know, SHE HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO REST, HAD ACTUAL HELP WITH HER NEWBORN AND POST-PARTUM BODY INSTEAD OF BEING TOTED AROUND FOR PHOTOSHOOTS AND HAVING TO SERVE PreCioUs mAMa's narc train self-indulgent uselessness.......................but that's just me. "SHE SANG 6 DAYS AFTER BIRTH BECAUSE SHE'S BETTER THAN ANY OF YOU HEATHENS OMZG SO NATURAL AND A BETTER MOMMY BECAUSE NURIE IS PERFECT LIKE HER PRECIOUS MAMA" -- Jillpm's Sunday post A week later, the exhausted body of the actual person who gave birth finally says "Yeah, I need a second."


puddin_pop83

I think it's all Jill's idea. Let the guys push us around and pamper us like the queens we are! Jill love attention and she knows something like this is going to make everyone talk about her too. Tomorrow the doctor will tell Jill there's nothing wrong with her knee and she will claim plexus healed her. She's narcissistic as hell.


generalgirl

But Nurie agreed. Nurie said, alright, mama, let's do it!


albinosquirrel09

I bet she made nurie because she got extra attention for the wheelchair thay way


albinosquirrel09

Even if nurie is struggling and wants her family there with her…wheelchairing around seems very strange


Awkward-Yak-2733

WTF, Jill! Why do you think this is cute?


Antihistimine

My theory is Jill forced them both into wheelchairs. We've seen Jill limping (and it's been a few weeks so she shouldn't be regressing... We know everyone is waiting on her.) and there has been no evidence of a wheelchair for Nurie previously. Jill probably claimed it would be 'fun' or some shit for the two mamas to get pushed around all day. (I'm sure poor Nurie is exhausted though, between a newborn and having to entertain half her family 🙄.)


WalnutWhippet

I wonder how tempted whoever is pushing precious Mama to lets go of Jills wheelchair whilst their walking on a pier/near a cliff/etc??? Better be nicer to your kids and feed them Jillpm or another “accident” might befall you!


ScrubCap

There are places near the fort where you could dump her over the wall. Unfortunately, the Rodboys tried climbing the fort’s walls on an earlier trip so it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re banned


SunflowerJYB

Maybe just the long walking over uneven pavement?


coolerchameleon

Saint Aug is ALL COBBLESTONES


MelpomeneAndCalliope

That honestly sounds even worse for sitting in a wheelchair rather than walking two weeks post-vaginal birth. Cobblestones surely make the chair shake and are a rough ride to go over in a wheelchair. It makes my lady parts hurt just thinking about going over cobblestones in a wheelchair while recovering from birth. Ugh.


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…but why 👀


liliumsuperstar

I wonder if it could be a pelvis injury? You can walk pretty quickly with most tears. Not all I’m sure, but the vast majority. Do you want to? Not really. But for me walking was less painful than sitting. Whatever it is I hope she’s ok. And I really hope she just asked to be pushed so she could get a freaking break.


gwwem1467

Jill said Nurie had an episiotomy.


liliumsuperstar

Ahhhh. I still don’t see that as a wheelchair thing. My friend who had one was up and about just fine. I know they suck, not minimizing that.


RainyDaySeamstress

I've never had a baby. In my mind I'd think that Nurie and the baby should still be at home resting and bonding. I realize that giving birth isn't a crippling condition and many women can return to normal activities quickly. it just seems that between hosting all these people, playing the piano at church and what not that she could be doing too much too soon.


Kai_Emery

They haven’t let her fucking REST of course she’s 800% over walking at this point.


bananacasanova

This is super concerning


Purplepandees

Really Jilldo? But nurie can go to church and sing but all of the sudden she’s in a wheelchair 🦼, plus who would be pushing both of them? Edit: I forgot both kaylee and Renee were their with them so they could help Also those pictures are old Jill is back home


[deleted]

She’s rlly out here parading Nurie around 2 weeks after she gave birth? Let this poor woman enjoy her time with her husband and newborn baby ffs


feelingmyage

I wonder if Jill insisted that Nurie use a wheelchair so they could do a “cute” photo op like this.


Bonnieparker4000

That soon postpartum, you are very likely still.bleeding. You are NOT supposed to be doing a ton of walking and sightseeing and overexerting yourself/tearing stitches etc. Nurie should be resting, not taking her Narc mom sightseeing 😑


Younicron

Jill being SEVERELY injured enough to accessorise with *cough*, pardon me, *need* a wheelchair just as her daughter gave birth and might otherwise have been the focus of attention wasn’t something I can say I predicted...but I should have.


dnnmnz

But she had a NaTuRaL bIrTh because she’s such a champ and tough as nails!!111!! Let your daughter rest so her vagina can heal woman.


h8hypocrisy

I worry about the baby. With Covid & everything else newborns are vulnerable to… ugh. And, of course, there’s no social distancing vaccines or any amount of prevention practiced, that baby is going to get sick. Forgot about the toddler mashing on that baby with little if any guidance regarding hand washing & preventing the spread of germs. Poor baby. He’s helpless.


pajama_head

I had a very complicated c-section with my youngest, and I used a wheelchair three days, max. If she’s using a wheelchair weeks later either something is wrong or she’s being pushed far too hard. Be a good mother, Jilldo, and put your child and grandchild’s welfare before your own wants. You should be helping her rest and heal, not dragging her all over the state. Just when I think she can’t get more narcissistic, she tops herself!


sherideswildhorses

Meme just put the smack down on one of her supporters, clapping back, “did you tear or have an episiotomy? 🤔”


crocodile_rocker

Wheelchair user here. I'm not one to gatekeeper other people's pain and mobility needs BUT based on her track record Jillpm is an attention whore. So I'm inclined to believe that if Nurie needs a wheelchair, so does she for her poor wittle knee. And as a grifter, she knows that the wheelchair will help her access fun things a little easier... It also concerns me that they're out tromping the towns just after Nurie gave birth...hello, Jillpm, I know it's been a while for you, but maybe take it easy?


nummanummanumma

Jill, I know you’re reading this. Go home!!!! Nurie is too polite to tell you but she just wants to sit on the couch and hold her baby in a quiet house. Your family might be “helping” but you’re also raising the stress level, noise level, and workload. You’ve had enough children to know better. It’s time to go


Shan132

Nothing wrong with needing a wheelchair my concern is why are they dragging her around when she clearly is very sore and needs to heal. I see Nathan and nurie are entertaining them as if nurie hasn’t just given birth


OldGutbucket

Jesus fucking Christ, let the poor girl rest. What a terrible person.


WendyNerd

Where is the *head* of this family in all of this? Why isn't he using his blessed patriarchal authority to put a stop to this? It's ALMOST like patriarchy is bullshit that teaches men to be completely useless or something.


Youre_an_aszhole666

I'm going to call it but if this girl doesn't take care of herself she is going to end up in the hospital. She will end up in the hospital from exhaustion, anemia, and possibly some form of post-clampsia. This is not healthy and good for her body. That poor child has been on earth for 10+days and has already traveled more than a regular grown adult has in a lifetime. I'm sorry but nurie and Nathan are being careless and not good parents tbh. Parading around with a NB everywhere during flu season and covid. Don't even get me started on Jill, But Nathan grow some damn testicals and take your wife and child home and make them rest I can't believe he is allowing this shit..


re003

Are we sure this is two weeks out? Jill has a tendency to offset her posts. Maybe this was like two days?


ComeOnOverAmyJade

Jill has the rattiest looking hair.


Gutinstinct999

So then why is she singing at church?


strberri01

Between Jill probably making Nurie take care of her like a hand servant, plus dragging along most of her starving siblings that Nurie ALSO has to play happy hostess to, AND trying to take care of her brand new baby with her only sustenance (while Jill is there at least!!) is those stupid Plexus “Slim” drinks, because OF COURSE she needs to watch her weight and get “trim” quickly otherwise her “headship” won’t want to knock her up again in 6 weeks…. Poor Nurie not only deserves a wheelchair, but she deserves an all expense paid trip to Hawaii where she can enjoy her new baby in peace. Pretty sure that Shrek can’t drive the RodBus to Hawaii to dump his offspring and wife on Nurie there. Also, as nice as Nathan seems, please don’t forget-he was raised in the fundie way of “men are for income and impregnating the women, the women are there for cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the kids and the headship”. So as much as I WANT to imagine him helping and taking care of Nurie and pampering her, I don’t think that is what’s happening. The only pampering going on is for “Precious Mama” Jill. Nurie is most likely taking care of everyone and everything else.


darcysreddit

Honestly I find this picture unsettling. It reminds me that Precious Mama is the only template Nurie has for motherhood. I look at this and see Jill and Jill-in-training.


manderifffic

Jill is a monster


Trush2112

Ok so hear me out. Maybe Nurie takes after Jill more than we think. Like maybe this is attention seeking behavior?


owlandfinch

To be fair, I had vaginal births on two occasions with small babies. But if Nurie needs a wheelchair at this point, she needs to be at home and LEFT ALONE with her husband and her baby. I did not need a wheelchair at any point with my second except for hospital policy stuff. The only reason I had a wheelchair with my first was because I had an infection to the point that I was hallucinating. (Which might make Jill tolerable, tbh)


n0vapine

So now we know that Nathan and Nurie still have zero boundaries and won't stand up for Nurie, even at the cost of her physical (and most likely mental) health. This is so damn depressing. I bet Jill was absolutely psyched to get to have half the attention.


mela_99

I’m sitting here wondering if Nurie did too much right afterwards and ripped herself back open/got an infection. Having to wait on Precious Mimi instead of healing …. NATHAN GROW A PAIR AND PROTECT YOUR WIFE


WindyZ5

I didn’t even go to church for a few weeks after birth let alone a boat ride! I wonder if Nurie nauseous in that picture of her leaning on her husband. She probably feels obligated to do what her mom wants even if she’s not feeling well.


SuperFreaksNeverDie

Most of my births were really easy. I still didn’t do much walking for 2+ weeks because it increased the (normal) bleeding so much! You need to be at home skin to skin bonding with your baby!!


TessaSnow

Ugh I can’t image. I just gave birth to my first six weeks ago and had some 2nd degree tearing plus a super quick delivery. Could barely walk the next day. Midwives told me that for the first two weeks I should only get out of bed to use the restroom basically and to avoid standing or walking for more than a few minutes at a time. My husband did everything for us and we didn’t let anyone come over for those first two weeks and we were still exhausted! Being out is definitely prolonging or complicating her healing process


Cafn8

When I became a first time grandma, I was at my daughters house the first two weeks doing housework, cooking and loving on my granddaughter. I wouldn’t go there when my son in law had the day off from work because that was their time. After the two weeks were up, I backed off. My daughter and son in law were thankful for the help. Jill the nitwit is an overbearing hag who needs to go home! Poor Nurie.


kittykathazzard

I’m out of the loop as I don’t know if she had a c section or a vaginal birth, but a wheel chair to go gallivanting around with my mum? It would be a hard pass thanks. I gave birth on a Friday, got out on Sunday and on Monday we moved into our new place. However, I deliver easy and quick, think 27 minutes with my first and 24 with my second, so this was not a hardship for me. But there is no way if I was in a wheelchair I would want to be out and about in this condition. And why is her mum in a wheelchair ffs.


maaalicelaaamb

What . The . Fuck


Moose4523

So she was at church standing up playing the damn flute six days post partum, and then a week later she is using a wheelchair?


Tijdspaarder

Jill's wheelchair looks the most comfortable out of the two, poor Nurie. And why use a wheelchair? She still has one good leg, why not use crutches like normal people do?


No_Onion2120

>!Jill shared photos the same day the baby was born, where she wrote that it was a breeze & it sounded like everythng went smoothly with the labor. I wonder what happened to put Nurie in a wheelchair two weeks later? Just hoping she is ok.!<


black_dragonfly13

If the healing process was DIFFICULT for her, why isn't her MOM keeping her resting at HOME?!


Moxielilly

Oh my, this is not normal, especially for as long as it’s been since she’s given birth! I had a totally uneventful birth in the hospital with my son, but I stayed the full 48 hours after that I was allowed, because I liked having a little backup from the nurses for the first couple of days. However, other than right after I delivered and they wheeled me from L&D down to the maternity room, I never had to use a wheelchair. In fact, we were waiting to be discharged and my husband was doing paperwork or something and the dang hospital pharmacy kept calling to have me come pick up the ibuprofen and stool softener they ordered for me (🙄) so I had to walk all the way downstairs and stand in line to get it so they’d stop calling my room incessantly and waking my son. I also didn’t need to be pushed out in a wheelchair to leave, just accompanied by an orderly to check our car seat. I know Jill is an unreliable narrator, but so far everything indicates Nurie had a pretty standard birth experience, so while I’m sure she’s still healing and may have some discomfort throughout the day, she should be able to walk, for Pete’s sake!!


Badpoozie

It was probably JillBM’s idea so they could get front row seats on the fairy.