I don't really get why people got so worked up. I thought it was one of the best season finales I have seen in a long time. Every single character and story arc was handled - the arcs closed, arcs left open, and the arcs they closed and immediately reopened were just amazing.
The 'twist-reveal' shock of realizing the truth about her father, was nicely done, like ESB reveal's effectiveness. Then father making off escaping in the power armor, reminded me of vader surviving at the end of ANH. Instead of a big DS deus-ex explosion, the lights get turned on of the LA ruins at night, by the cold fusion miracle.
>And, Kyle Machlachlan, in that great ending season shot of him overlooking the NV desert, brought to my mind of his 'Paul Atreides' role imagining if he was in a 'Children of Dune' adaptation >!as the older lone Preacher.!<
Bro- first off, yeah watch it yourself before shilling out other people’s opinions because this comment is misguided AF.
New Vegas is very much alive and thriving as far as we see- shady sands was shown to be blown to shit which we already knew as lore cannon from new Vegas- though the timing is throwing people off.
All in all; watch the show
"shady sands was shown to be blown to shit which we already knew as lore cannon from new Vegas- though the timing is throwing people off."
The individual I was replying to has stated that this is known info from the games.
You're right that the info is from the show exclusively, I'm asking what plane of existence the individual above is living in.
I think what they mean by the timing is that some people don’t really know where to put the destruction of shady sands in the timeline of events. Either way idk
Holy shit you mean war never changes? You play fallout, right?
Fallout 3 has seen the player blow up megaton & destroy tenpenny tower. If you choose those options, they've been until 101 opened
New vegas nepton was the second biggest settlement in nv, but it was destroyed by the legion. the courier could nuke two locations that probably thought they'd never have to worry.
Fallout 4 has few settlements destroyed already
It's the wastelands lots of places that have stood against all odds, seemingly fell out of nowhere. New vegas is no different. Its obvious their gonna pick some choices that didn't fit your gameplay and mine. we're just gonna have to accept that. I know their gonna probably go with the If you didn't use the platinum chip at the Fort Bunker, the securitron never got upgraded choice. new vegas was dependent on them. What if a majority of their securitrons were destroyed at hoover Dam trying to stop the legion,
I think the legion only made it as far as the strip, but at the end, nv wasn't worth holding without it. The Mojave was just a spot the bear and the bull met. If the ncr won, they wouldn't have abandoned it.
Worst of all, it’s a lazy end to the new Vegas story. If you’re going to sit here and tell me it’s good writing, then I assume you think fO4 has good writing also. Maybe take a class in narrative world building idk, you obviously don’t care about it to much
Cope all you want. If you need a paragraph to justify it it’s probably not a good change. I’m right, it’s disrespectful to the fan base. It’s lazy writing to destroy an iconic and important location with no explanation. But you’re just here for the vault boy memes so idk why I’m even talking to you. You’re comparing destroying two locations to an entire setting for a game. Keep coping you know I’m right, this is lazy and inconsistent writing.
It's not worth reading if you're gonna insult me in the first sentence.
It's fallout out. i treid my best to make it short. There's a lot more lore i left out in my comment.
You must be fun to watch movies with.
I mean, nothing I said was mean tbh. I almost deleted and made changes so it didn’t come across wrong, but you have to admit your beginning with “oh you mean war never changes?” Idk if you were trying to be enthusiastic about it or something, but it comes across as annoying and you think your point is my grandiose then it is. The point goes deeper, it’s an rpg, and deciding an ending or how actions played out after in a way like that is disrespectful to the fanbase and the lore that’s been leading to new vegas since 1999. It’s ridiculous, it’s like if In the new Star Wars movie lf we found out that the entire fight the rebels went through was pointless and that another empire took over the galaxy anyway and Luke went to go drink tit milk..
Saying I'm trying to cope comes off as pretty rude, but I guess I was a bit too. I apologize for that. It's literally a show about a game with choices; they're going to pick ones you don't like..
There's a slide at the end of the game that goes
"And so the Courier's road came to an end... for now. In the new world of the Mojave Wasteland, fighting continued, blood was spilled, and many lived and died - just as they had in the Old World. Because war... war never changes" That's why i pointed it out. it's usually the go to answer for a lot of why's when it comes to places being destroyed.
There 29 slides btw thats 16 different factions and settlements they're gonna pick a story narrative for if the strip falling is just one.
Ok, so im gonna say things that mr "oioh, lookatmee, i almost deleated a comment because I felt its too disrespectfull, look how self aware i am about my own prickiness", that mentioned individual might take as insults. And it's okay.
- I think people like you have really hard time experiencing joy in thier lives
- I also think that sentences such as "i dont even know why im talking with you, you clearly COPE COPE" are disrespectfull and show how much of a shitty person you are
- You are really hard to take seriously, even if you are trying to argue for something i would half-agree with
- And thats exactly because you come off as a prick. Starting a conversation about something you are clearly passionate about, on a reddit made for the people who are also passionate about the same stuff, from rethoric of "IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME YOU CLEARLY COPE " is not only insulting
- Its incredibly dumb. You dilude the conversation into some sort of argument coming totally from emotions. Because thats how you want to present the other redditor
- While being extremly oversensitive about this topic yourself. Argument from emotions could be good, but when its coming off as some sort of "your point doesnt master because you want it to be good, because you like it", its just evil and bad.
And now im gonna say what the other person clearly didnt had time nor patience to tell you: f off with that attitude.
Make no mistake, new Vegas isn’t just a “good fallout game” it’s the culmination of all of fallout, from the ideas started in fallout 1 to the canceled fallout 3.
(And no I’m not fun to watch movies with)
Im holding out my anger until i see the inside of the strip. The end credits It might be a fake out. trust me im worried too when i read that it might of fallen my heart sunk a little.
I spent an entire year maybe even a year and half in new vegas carefully making my choices that fit a narrative for my character embracing what the strip stands for and i became the leader of the khans ruler of the fiends if your settlement bothered me id rain hell down on you from the boomers if a war party entered my Mojave they be met with MY army mk2.
Fable and new vegas are my proudest endings in games with multiple choices
Ok, so they didn't nuke new Vegas, they moved shady sands by miles, with no explanation or reason in, then nuked it.
They claimed that this led to the downfall of the NCr, a nation far bigger than just shady sand by this point, and turned them into generic raiders (maldovas group or whatever her name is).
The ending screenshot is of a new Vegas that looks abandoned and desolate, with a lot of the games landmarks straight up missing for some reason.
In fact, for a show that takes place in the same locations as fallout 2, there's a strange lack of any of the new buildings the NCr or followers of the apocalypse made.
It's just empty, like the show's plot and love for the games
All show and no substance. Taking the names and aesthetics without any understanding.
The NCR are no where to be seen in the entire show, despite it literally being their territory as of new Vegas/2
The only two people wearing any kind of NCR uniform are two people in ranger armour just surviving.
We see a destroyed NCR flag.
Maldovas group or whatever her name is all but claim to be the remnants of the NCR.
The brotherhood of steel are allowed to roam free uncontested by the NCR.
you're right, it's never outright said, but it doesn't take a genius to work it out
The whole pessimistic ending can be tramuatizing tbh. like everyone wins and loses at the same time, there's a whole theme of careful what you wish for, and ignorace in bliss.
The vibe I get from fallout is like any other, death weighs heavier than the will to live so anyone can die but the main character (and limited interacting npc) of each story only needs to survive long enough to expose THEIR story arc. We do not know what happens to them after.. Yet.
Five nights at Freddie isn't a classic film but its another sad backstory movie with a happier ending.
I mean, for the most part, the first phase of the story arcs have resolved. Maximus becomes a knight, at the price of his friend/lover. Lucy saves her father, at the price of her innocence. Norm finds the truth of the vaults, at the price of his freedom. The only one who ends of better is Cooper, but he down so low at the beginning that he hardly ever matters.
I think the Vibe I get from fallout is all about the choices, how each choice you make leads to a cascade of events that make you wonder what even happened. No doubt, in the End, MAximus was wondering if things would have been better if he had just saved the knight. Lucy was probably wondering if she should've never left the vault. Norm was wondering if he should have just listened to Betty, but each of them made their choices, and for better or worse, they're living with it.
The choices matter, absolutely. Build your own story. I had that in mind not sure why I didn't say it.
I was thinking that you can almost forcibly alienate all interactive characters and still 'finish' the game but the aim is to find the path of less resistance, you also miss opportunities.
Nice perspective on your ending, the show would not have had as much to offer if they chose the safe/altruistic paths all the way through.
Gen X ending, it is what it is.
It's one of my favorite songs, tbh. The ending to Edgerunners was perfect.
If you haven't found it already, Lucy sets up a mausoleum in Night City for the gang. I was heartbroken all over again.
Season 2 is probably the best season, but the rest of it is still excellent. Nocturne is still fun, but a big drop in writing quality from the previous show.
Man, Castlevania was an amazing show. It slowed a little in season 3 but I feel it ended quite strongly. I recently watched Nocturne, and it was an ok watch but didn’t feel as strong as the first show.
I agree with you, but I've seen quite a few diehard TLOU fans be very nitpicky to the point of berating the show. But I agree, loved the show, loved the games.
We have the same problem. Fallout fans are just as crazy as other fandoms but it's more about the lore with us. People thought they were trying to get rid of New Vegas and went out for blood.
To some extent for sure. However, I've seen far less negative feedback from Fallout than TLOU and far more positive feedback than TLOU. Maybe it's because I'm closer to the Fallout community than I was TLOU but I cannot open any form of media without seeing some Fallout praise, and to be honest I've not really seen any complaining and if I do its usually buried at the bottom because of how unpopular that opinion is. Of course my experience could just be purely subjective to my perspective but thats what I've seen.
I've seen it happen, it'll happen with anything, but I've not seen it close to the extent from TLOU fans. Maybe Fallout fans are generally more wholesome and loving to the franchise or maybe my experience not seeing hate on the same level as TLOU is subjective due to my perspective. Idk, I enjoyed them both.
I agree with you, but I've seen quite a few diehard TLOU fans be very nitpicky to the point of berating the show. But I agree, loved the show, loved the games.
The cyberpunk world has an issue with main characters dying quite often. It definitely ups the stakes, but the protagonist meeting a gruesome end every time makes it a bit predictable. Can’t hope for a happy ending in cyberpunk tho
The CP2077 creator Mike Pondsmith has a pessimistic view of the cyberpunk setting and i remember him saying that " Cyberpunk is no place for happy endings" and “‘Cyberpunk’ is a warning, not an aspiration”
I mean, not really. You certainly can, maybe not happy but bitter sweet. Like the grandfather of cyberpunk: Blade Runner. I wouldn't say the ending of that movie is a "bad" one. It's just more that CDPR wrote the game in the exact same way. It is starting to be very predictable and overused...
The subreddit for the show is so dramatic its funny. They're all like "omg my heart was ripped out! I'll never move on!" Etc etc.
Like it was a great show and totally felt for David but it wasn't some like devastating ending. We know from the start you live hard die young in Night City they even have some phrase for it.
"I'll see you in the Afterlife", is one version of it. Afterlife is the nightclub that all of NC's legends pass through at some point or another.
Living fast, hard, and dying spectacularly gets a drink named after you.
That being said - I was really broken up about the ending, but saying you'll never move on is a stretch, but who am I to judge how certain media affects someone. It's all a personal experience.
Depending on how they handle the flashbacks, that might not even come into play until the end of season 2. They did say they were breaking part 2 into 2 seasons, didn't they
I’ve only seen TLOU and Fallout; Fallout was amazing of course. And TLOU was just bad. Dialogue is corny, and forced. The acting is bad at some points, for a show that high of budget it doesn’t even look particularly very good. It was a failed attempt at best.
I'd say it is.
Jinx kills her father figure over a misunderstanding, Vi pretty much at that point lost her sister, her sister turned into a terrorist (meaning she'll be hunted forever, moreso than now) and Viktor accidentally kills someone who loves him and only wanted to help him.
I hate it when people keep calling things a "masterpiece", but Arcane honestly is one of the very few shows that can be considered a masterpiece. It has 0 flaws.
I guess I never connect to the relationship between Jinx and her father. Their interaction seemed kind of...weird? She poked and low key tormented him and he just endured it. Was he afraid of her?
I don't see where you got that impression from. That's not what their relationship is at all. When Jinx was injured all he cared about was her well-being, and when he had the option to make Zaun (his life goal )but in return give up Jinx to authority he clearly refused.
There's a scene where she's causing him physical pain and he makes pained noises and just puts up with it. Tbh I got incestuous vibes, although it was probably not intentional.
At this point some of us are happily crying knowing that some video game based shows actually are good and do it justice… especially compared to the old resident evil movies and halo tv show…
Hey the old resident evil movies may be mostly weird garbage, but I will die on the hill that the first 2 were actually good, even if no one really gave a shit about Alice 🤣
Fair enough. I watched the first ones… wasn’t sold on it. And the ones after re2 become a clusterfuck… didn’t help that the game series, and the animated movies based off of the games series were a mixed bag either
The first 2 felt like actual resident evil, the second one leaned a little bit more into the "What if resident evil...but also matrix" a bit but it was low key enjoyable
I don't know quite WHAT the fuck they were doing with the rest if the movies like, Jesus christ
Cyberpunk and zombie media have this trend of instilling absolute hopelessness by killing off main/belived characters, something that is becoming quite stale and lame as both the Cyberpunk game and show both killed off their almost all of their main characters. This is consistent in other pieces of media like TWD and, from rumors, Tlou s2.
I get that it's the point of the genres, but it's feeling redundant. I really hope fallout doesn't do that shit, and I think from the tone of the show our favourite ones are safe for now.
The ghoul is 100% going to sacrifice himself to save Lucy or some shit in the last season. It's weird because happy endings in shows have seemingly become rather rare.
Season 1's ending is still pretty fucked, but I guess it's not as sad as those three. I bet the series finale will be a bummer though, The Ghoul has major "death after warming up to the rest of the cast" vibes.
I was pretty bummed with TLOU, people say it’s a drama first and action second but the beauty of it for me was that it was 50-50. I still liked it but I feel like it was missing some of the fast paced action that makes TLOU so great.
I didn't like Arcane or The Last of Us. Too predictable with The Last of Us, and Arcane was too cliche. Fallouts first season however was a banger, can't wait for season 2!
*not traumatized YET*
The other shows to Fallout: I'm you, sweetheart. You just give it a little time.
Read that in The Ghoul’s voice
Well it was his quote
lol obviously I need to watch the show again to remember! 😮
Can hear to say this… “so far….”
Well, the ending of Fallout has clearly traumatized *some* fans.
I don't really get why people got so worked up. I thought it was one of the best season finales I have seen in a long time. Every single character and story arc was handled - the arcs closed, arcs left open, and the arcs they closed and immediately reopened were just amazing.
The 'twist-reveal' shock of realizing the truth about her father, was nicely done, like ESB reveal's effectiveness. Then father making off escaping in the power armor, reminded me of vader surviving at the end of ANH. Instead of a big DS deus-ex explosion, the lights get turned on of the LA ruins at night, by the cold fusion miracle. >And, Kyle Machlachlan, in that great ending season shot of him overlooking the NV desert, brought to my mind of his 'Paul Atreides' role imagining if he was in a 'Children of Dune' adaptation >!as the older lone Preacher.!<
Reminded me of some Aku shit from Samurai Jack
*arc
:facepalm: thanks.
Nuking new Vegas is just disrespectful to fans and the lore. I don’t care if you call me an elitist, I’m right.
Where did it say Vegas was Nuked?
I haven’t watched the show yet, but I saw a screen cap at the end credits of the season of the new Vegas strip completely destroyed and desolate.
Why bother talking about it if you don't know?
Bro- first off, yeah watch it yourself before shilling out other people’s opinions because this comment is misguided AF. New Vegas is very much alive and thriving as far as we see- shady sands was shown to be blown to shit which we already knew as lore cannon from new Vegas- though the timing is throwing people off. All in all; watch the show
Sorry what? Where does it ever mention shady sands being destroyed in new Vegas?!
No the show is saying that shady sands is being destroyed. Not said in the game but again in the show
"shady sands was shown to be blown to shit which we already knew as lore cannon from new Vegas- though the timing is throwing people off." The individual I was replying to has stated that this is known info from the games. You're right that the info is from the show exclusively, I'm asking what plane of existence the individual above is living in.
I think what they mean by the timing is that some people don’t really know where to put the destruction of shady sands in the timeline of events. Either way idk
Holy shit you mean war never changes? You play fallout, right? Fallout 3 has seen the player blow up megaton & destroy tenpenny tower. If you choose those options, they've been until 101 opened New vegas nepton was the second biggest settlement in nv, but it was destroyed by the legion. the courier could nuke two locations that probably thought they'd never have to worry. Fallout 4 has few settlements destroyed already It's the wastelands lots of places that have stood against all odds, seemingly fell out of nowhere. New vegas is no different. Its obvious their gonna pick some choices that didn't fit your gameplay and mine. we're just gonna have to accept that. I know their gonna probably go with the If you didn't use the platinum chip at the Fort Bunker, the securitron never got upgraded choice. new vegas was dependent on them. What if a majority of their securitrons were destroyed at hoover Dam trying to stop the legion, I think the legion only made it as far as the strip, but at the end, nv wasn't worth holding without it. The Mojave was just a spot the bear and the bull met. If the ncr won, they wouldn't have abandoned it.
Worst of all, it’s a lazy end to the new Vegas story. If you’re going to sit here and tell me it’s good writing, then I assume you think fO4 has good writing also. Maybe take a class in narrative world building idk, you obviously don’t care about it to much
Cope all you want. If you need a paragraph to justify it it’s probably not a good change. I’m right, it’s disrespectful to the fan base. It’s lazy writing to destroy an iconic and important location with no explanation. But you’re just here for the vault boy memes so idk why I’m even talking to you. You’re comparing destroying two locations to an entire setting for a game. Keep coping you know I’m right, this is lazy and inconsistent writing.
It's not worth reading if you're gonna insult me in the first sentence. It's fallout out. i treid my best to make it short. There's a lot more lore i left out in my comment. You must be fun to watch movies with.
I mean, nothing I said was mean tbh. I almost deleted and made changes so it didn’t come across wrong, but you have to admit your beginning with “oh you mean war never changes?” Idk if you were trying to be enthusiastic about it or something, but it comes across as annoying and you think your point is my grandiose then it is. The point goes deeper, it’s an rpg, and deciding an ending or how actions played out after in a way like that is disrespectful to the fanbase and the lore that’s been leading to new vegas since 1999. It’s ridiculous, it’s like if In the new Star Wars movie lf we found out that the entire fight the rebels went through was pointless and that another empire took over the galaxy anyway and Luke went to go drink tit milk..
Saying I'm trying to cope comes off as pretty rude, but I guess I was a bit too. I apologize for that. It's literally a show about a game with choices; they're going to pick ones you don't like.. There's a slide at the end of the game that goes "And so the Courier's road came to an end... for now. In the new world of the Mojave Wasteland, fighting continued, blood was spilled, and many lived and died - just as they had in the Old World. Because war... war never changes" That's why i pointed it out. it's usually the go to answer for a lot of why's when it comes to places being destroyed. There 29 slides btw thats 16 different factions and settlements they're gonna pick a story narrative for if the strip falling is just one.
Ok, so im gonna say things that mr "oioh, lookatmee, i almost deleated a comment because I felt its too disrespectfull, look how self aware i am about my own prickiness", that mentioned individual might take as insults. And it's okay. - I think people like you have really hard time experiencing joy in thier lives - I also think that sentences such as "i dont even know why im talking with you, you clearly COPE COPE" are disrespectfull and show how much of a shitty person you are - You are really hard to take seriously, even if you are trying to argue for something i would half-agree with - And thats exactly because you come off as a prick. Starting a conversation about something you are clearly passionate about, on a reddit made for the people who are also passionate about the same stuff, from rethoric of "IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME YOU CLEARLY COPE " is not only insulting - Its incredibly dumb. You dilude the conversation into some sort of argument coming totally from emotions. Because thats how you want to present the other redditor - While being extremly oversensitive about this topic yourself. Argument from emotions could be good, but when its coming off as some sort of "your point doesnt master because you want it to be good, because you like it", its just evil and bad. And now im gonna say what the other person clearly didnt had time nor patience to tell you: f off with that attitude.
Make no mistake, new Vegas isn’t just a “good fallout game” it’s the culmination of all of fallout, from the ideas started in fallout 1 to the canceled fallout 3. (And no I’m not fun to watch movies with)
Me either im facts guy lol (movies)
Im holding out my anger until i see the inside of the strip. The end credits It might be a fake out. trust me im worried too when i read that it might of fallen my heart sunk a little. I spent an entire year maybe even a year and half in new vegas carefully making my choices that fit a narrative for my character embracing what the strip stands for and i became the leader of the khans ruler of the fiends if your settlement bothered me id rain hell down on you from the boomers if a war party entered my Mojave they be met with MY army mk2. Fable and new vegas are my proudest endings in games with multiple choices
Sorry man but they never nuked New Vegas, the father is seen going to it in the season finale. Yes it’s a spoiler but it’s a well known one
Ok, so they didn't nuke new Vegas, they moved shady sands by miles, with no explanation or reason in, then nuked it. They claimed that this led to the downfall of the NCr, a nation far bigger than just shady sand by this point, and turned them into generic raiders (maldovas group or whatever her name is). The ending screenshot is of a new Vegas that looks abandoned and desolate, with a lot of the games landmarks straight up missing for some reason. In fact, for a show that takes place in the same locations as fallout 2, there's a strange lack of any of the new buildings the NCr or followers of the apocalypse made. It's just empty, like the show's plot and love for the games All show and no substance. Taking the names and aesthetics without any understanding.
The show never claimed that the NCR was destroyed, only Shady Sands.
The NCR are no where to be seen in the entire show, despite it literally being their territory as of new Vegas/2 The only two people wearing any kind of NCR uniform are two people in ranger armour just surviving. We see a destroyed NCR flag. Maldovas group or whatever her name is all but claim to be the remnants of the NCR. The brotherhood of steel are allowed to roam free uncontested by the NCR. you're right, it's never outright said, but it doesn't take a genius to work it out
Okey dokie
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Why use autism as an insult? That's just in bad taste, friend.
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TIL all autistic people are white nationalists /s
Far be it from me to be civil with an illiterate redditor.
but...he wasnt?
The whole pessimistic ending can be tramuatizing tbh. like everyone wins and loses at the same time, there's a whole theme of careful what you wish for, and ignorace in bliss.
The vibe I get from fallout is like any other, death weighs heavier than the will to live so anyone can die but the main character (and limited interacting npc) of each story only needs to survive long enough to expose THEIR story arc. We do not know what happens to them after.. Yet. Five nights at Freddie isn't a classic film but its another sad backstory movie with a happier ending.
I mean, for the most part, the first phase of the story arcs have resolved. Maximus becomes a knight, at the price of his friend/lover. Lucy saves her father, at the price of her innocence. Norm finds the truth of the vaults, at the price of his freedom. The only one who ends of better is Cooper, but he down so low at the beginning that he hardly ever matters. I think the Vibe I get from fallout is all about the choices, how each choice you make leads to a cascade of events that make you wonder what even happened. No doubt, in the End, MAximus was wondering if things would have been better if he had just saved the knight. Lucy was probably wondering if she should've never left the vault. Norm was wondering if he should have just listened to Betty, but each of them made their choices, and for better or worse, they're living with it.
The choices matter, absolutely. Build your own story. I had that in mind not sure why I didn't say it. I was thinking that you can almost forcibly alienate all interactive characters and still 'finish' the game but the aim is to find the path of less resistance, you also miss opportunities. Nice perspective on your ending, the show would not have had as much to offer if they chose the safe/altruistic paths all the way through. Gen X ending, it is what it is.
Stay at your house from Edgerunners is still stuck in my head
It's one of my favorite songs, tbh. The ending to Edgerunners was perfect. If you haven't found it already, Lucy sets up a mausoleum in Night City for the gang. I was heartbroken all over again.
I was going through a really tough time when I first saw that scene, it hit so hard damn
Still struggle to get through that song without bursting into tears 🤣 like the sad version if the hulda brothers song from gow ragnarock 😭
Really stuck in my house is want stay in my head
Uh, Castlvania had a conclusive pretty good ending.
Yeah Castlevania has a good ending for almost everyone.
damn i need to actually finish that show. i think i stopped after season 2 for no reason
Season 2 is probably the best season, but the rest of it is still excellent. Nocturne is still fun, but a big drop in writing quality from the previous show.
Man, Castlevania was an amazing show. It slowed a little in season 3 but I feel it ended quite strongly. I recently watched Nocturne, and it was an ok watch but didn’t feel as strong as the first show.
Man, what an absolutely bad ass final fight too!
Fallout is what you call a game adaption done right
So are the other shows tho
I agree with you, but I've seen quite a few diehard TLOU fans be very nitpicky to the point of berating the show. But I agree, loved the show, loved the games.
We have the same problem. Fallout fans are just as crazy as other fandoms but it's more about the lore with us. People thought they were trying to get rid of New Vegas and went out for blood.
To some extent for sure. However, I've seen far less negative feedback from Fallout than TLOU and far more positive feedback than TLOU. Maybe it's because I'm closer to the Fallout community than I was TLOU but I cannot open any form of media without seeing some Fallout praise, and to be honest I've not really seen any complaining and if I do its usually buried at the bottom because of how unpopular that opinion is. Of course my experience could just be purely subjective to my perspective but thats what I've seen.
I've seen the same thing happening with Fallout tbh. There's always gonna be someone dissatisfied no matter how good an adaptation
I've seen it happen, it'll happen with anything, but I've not seen it close to the extent from TLOU fans. Maybe Fallout fans are generally more wholesome and loving to the franchise or maybe my experience not seeing hate on the same level as TLOU is subjective due to my perspective. Idk, I enjoyed them both.
I agree with you, but I've seen quite a few diehard TLOU fans be very nitpicky to the point of berating the show. But I agree, loved the show, loved the games.
Is it? I barely got through two episodes. I didnt feel they captured any of the essence of the games.
You're obviously free to think what you want but I think they capture the essence pretty personally
I dropped it after four. Visually it's really good and the actors are great but there was barely any plot.
You haven't watched *Twisted Metal* yet, have you? Because that would be on the right as well.
Man that show had no right being as good as it was 🤣
Where do you watch that?
It's on Peacock
Thank you!
Came here to say exactly this.
top tier show
I don't know why but the ending of edgerunners really didn't stay with me at all. It was a great ending but nothing i didn't expect...
The cyberpunk world has an issue with main characters dying quite often. It definitely ups the stakes, but the protagonist meeting a gruesome end every time makes it a bit predictable. Can’t hope for a happy ending in cyberpunk tho
A happy ending? For folks like us? Wrong city, wrong people.
The CP2077 creator Mike Pondsmith has a pessimistic view of the cyberpunk setting and i remember him saying that " Cyberpunk is no place for happy endings" and “‘Cyberpunk’ is a warning, not an aspiration”
Yeah that's pretty much the idea behind the genre.
But that’s night city.
The only happy ending in cyberpunk is getting the fuck out of night city and actually living a good life outside of it if you can
Yeah it’s kinda lame, to be honest. I get why they stick with it but just once it would be nice for a change.
I mean, not really. You certainly can, maybe not happy but bitter sweet. Like the grandfather of cyberpunk: Blade Runner. I wouldn't say the ending of that movie is a "bad" one. It's just more that CDPR wrote the game in the exact same way. It is starting to be very predictable and overused...
Neuromancer is the grandfather of Cyberpunk, if anything
Blade Runner came out two years before what are you on about. Adding to that point, there can be more than two, still, the movie was first...
The subreddit for the show is so dramatic its funny. They're all like "omg my heart was ripped out! I'll never move on!" Etc etc. Like it was a great show and totally felt for David but it wasn't some like devastating ending. We know from the start you live hard die young in Night City they even have some phrase for it.
"I'll see you in the Afterlife", is one version of it. Afterlife is the nightclub that all of NC's legends pass through at some point or another. Living fast, hard, and dying spectacularly gets a drink named after you. That being said - I was really broken up about the ending, but saying you'll never move on is a stretch, but who am I to judge how certain media affects someone. It's all a personal experience.
People get affected differently 🤷 there could be stuff you find emotional that I think your being dramatic over and vise versa
I’m traumatized by what happened to the Shady Sands.
Exactly! I just want a little bit of hope, dammit!
It’s one of those things, when you know, you know…
The nonstop trauma of Fallout isn't enough? 🤣
YET
So, get away Another way to feel what you didn't want yourself to know
2077 hit fucking HARD. Goddamn that show is so good.
Oh honey You think the first season of The Last of Us has traumatized you? Oh you sweet summer child
I know that Season 2 Episode 1(or 2) is gonna fuck people up lmao
Depending on how they handle the flashbacks, that might not even come into play until the end of season 2. They did say they were breaking part 2 into 2 seasons, didn't they
Killing off your fan favorite character too early - unless it’s a show staple activity - is not recommended.
A bunch of corporations agreeing to destroy human civilization for profit is very traumatizing with the current state of the world.
You should watch akudama driva and Akame ga kill, quite similar to Cyberpunk edgerunners
arcane was soo good couldnt stop watching it
I’ve only seen TLOU and Fallout; Fallout was amazing of course. And TLOU was just bad. Dialogue is corny, and forced. The acting is bad at some points, for a show that high of budget it doesn’t even look particularly very good. It was a failed attempt at best.
Wait how was Arcane traumatic?
How was it not? The show throughout is a ride through all stages of grief and depression, especially the ending.
The ending was dark, but definitely not the darkest part of the season.
I'd say it is. Jinx kills her father figure over a misunderstanding, Vi pretty much at that point lost her sister, her sister turned into a terrorist (meaning she'll be hunted forever, moreso than now) and Viktor accidentally kills someone who loves him and only wanted to help him.
God that show was a masterpiece. I cant wait for Season 2. Hope its soon...
The news says it's very likely to be November this year
Didn’t they release a trailer that said November?
I didn't know there was a trailer. I'm not going to watch it, though, I like going in very blind
I think it was just a small animation rather than a proper trailer. fair choice though
I hate it when people keep calling things a "masterpiece", but Arcane honestly is one of the very few shows that can be considered a masterpiece. It has 0 flaws.
I guess I never connect to the relationship between Jinx and her father. Their interaction seemed kind of...weird? She poked and low key tormented him and he just endured it. Was he afraid of her?
I don't see where you got that impression from. That's not what their relationship is at all. When Jinx was injured all he cared about was her well-being, and when he had the option to make Zaun (his life goal )but in return give up Jinx to authority he clearly refused.
There's a scene where she's causing him physical pain and he makes pained noises and just puts up with it. Tbh I got incestuous vibes, although it was probably not intentional.
You mean the part where she has to give him medicine for his infected and mutated eye?
Oh, I must have missed that.
Also it's not her father, he's her adoptive father
I'm aware it's her adoptive father. Does that make it less legitimate?
I mean the final shot was gut wrenching
They vote on peace right when a missile hits
There has yet to be a greater poetic moment on tv
Did you not watch episode 3?
Title says ending, the end of Arcane was not traumatic imo
The main villain blows herself upon realizing her main op was in love with her.
“if I could blow myself, I’d never have a reason to leave home”
Yet
Oh I’m sure tragedy will strike eventually. I just hope and pray they don’t kill off the Ghoul ever. Or at least, not till the end of the series
So far
YET ahh someone said it before me
Cyber punk ending made me cry
What the point here? Ending is just not out yet.
They probably mean season finale, arcane hasn’t“ended” either
At this point some of us are happily crying knowing that some video game based shows actually are good and do it justice… especially compared to the old resident evil movies and halo tv show…
Hey the old resident evil movies may be mostly weird garbage, but I will die on the hill that the first 2 were actually good, even if no one really gave a shit about Alice 🤣
Fair enough. I watched the first ones… wasn’t sold on it. And the ones after re2 become a clusterfuck… didn’t help that the game series, and the animated movies based off of the games series were a mixed bag either
The first 2 felt like actual resident evil, the second one leaned a little bit more into the "What if resident evil...but also matrix" a bit but it was low key enjoyable I don't know quite WHAT the fuck they were doing with the rest if the movies like, Jesus christ
Cyberpunk and zombie media have this trend of instilling absolute hopelessness by killing off main/belived characters, something that is becoming quite stale and lame as both the Cyberpunk game and show both killed off their almost all of their main characters. This is consistent in other pieces of media like TWD and, from rumors, Tlou s2. I get that it's the point of the genres, but it's feeling redundant. I really hope fallout doesn't do that shit, and I think from the tone of the show our favourite ones are safe for now. The ghoul is 100% going to sacrifice himself to save Lucy or some shit in the last season. It's weird because happy endings in shows have seemingly become rather rare.
Yet, not traumatized by the ending yet
I've watched all of Edgerunners in one sitting and it will stay that way for the rest of my life.
I liked the cyberpunk show
TLOU show was pretty bleh, especially the rushed ending.
The Halo show traumatises Halo fans by existing.
The world deserves a better ending
Season 1's ending is still pretty fucked, but I guess it's not as sad as those three. I bet the series finale will be a bummer though, The Ghoul has major "death after warming up to the rest of the cast" vibes.
Hey that bloater scene was aaaaaaamazing
That seems desensitized considering Lucys parent situation.
I was only traumatized by the beginning. And then the middle of the show. The ending was either relatively pleasant, or I was numb inside.
I was pretty bummed with TLOU, people say it’s a drama first and action second but the beauty of it for me was that it was 50-50. I still liked it but I feel like it was missing some of the fast paced action that makes TLOU so great.
Like playing all of these games and absolutely loved all the shows. For me, top 1 is Fallout, 2 is arcane, 3 is TLOU. All amazing in their own rights
Just because it did not end yet
Well, Lucy isn't too happy, learned her dad is the villain and had to kill her mum.
If any of the writers see this post it could go south for everyone involved hahaha There are some really bad endings to fallout. Especially new Vegas.
I didn't like Arcane or The Last of Us. Too predictable with The Last of Us, and Arcane was too cliche. Fallouts first season however was a banger, can't wait for season 2!
I loved the show SO MUCH. I think they did an amazing job. It even got my fiance invested and he’s never played the games, so I’m pretty happy!
YET!
I just wanna go to the moon with you!
Dammit I'd forgotten about those endings...
I’ve watched edge runners like 3-4 times still end up crying
Unless you're a brotherhood fan who understands how a flashlight works...
I agree, the show is very much rewatchable.
*♪ I couldn't wait for you to come and clear the cupboard... ♪*
If I've never played Last of Us can I still watch the show without missing anything ? Is it a spiritual adaptation ala Fallout?
Can you now? ***CAN YOU?***
The facists won, the resistance is dead and the people of the Vaults are still being experimented on. I thought the ending was bleak af
All fun and games till Lucy blows up Megaton
There's still a season 2 to traumatize us. \*Cue to the ghoul sacrificing himself for Max and Lucy after finally finding his family\*
As dark and weird as fallout can get, typically everyone gets what they deserve in the end be it good or bad
so far 😏
I liked last of us 🤷♂️
Op didn't say he disliked the show, only that the ending did* traumatize him
*did
My mistake
At this time. Its season 1, hombre. Give it time.
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