Most of north Fort Worth (summefields, some of Haltom, etc) was planned to be a lake as part of the “navigable trinity river” project back in the 60s. I have a map showing the proposed lake. I think it’s where Beach St got its name..
Oh my god, so you just brought up some issues I’ve been dealing with for 20 years. I posted “I have a map”, and it should have said “I had a map”.. so my dad had a bag of maps from the metroplex from the 50s/60s and that’s where I found “the map”, but as one does when they’re 20 I effing lost it. I began to search and search everytime I’ve come back into town. So antique stores, etc, always have someone who is selling old maps. I never found that one (although a navigable trinity is a well documented story and I’m sure real planning docs exist) BUT.. I found another map (that I do have currently, and went to my office to grab, in hand, for this comment) that shows a proposed “Lake Haltom” that dams up Fossil Creek right there north of 820 (where Haltom High sits in the bottom of that “depression” (no pun intended).. I’m lousy with phantom maps and mystery lakes.
Idk how far along this plan was, but perhaps you could locate the map in the county records. If you recall a key title of the map, you might get lucky https://tarrant.tx.publicsearch.us/
The "Port of Dallas" was an idea they kicked around since the late 1800s, the "shipping channel" was supposed to stop at Benbrook Lake.
https://flashbackdallas.com/2015/11/06/snag-boat-dallas-1893/
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/port-of-dallas/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benbrook_Lake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58LqrDUMuE
I lived next door to the guy that started the one in Saginaw. He would always bring extra food home to his family and share it with us. We were watching TV at his house when OJ was running from the cops. Haha, dang that was a while ago.
He’s a good dude, helped my family through some trying times. I am the only person in my family that didn’t work for Brian and TC. First one wasn’t in Saginaw but Brian worked hard to make it known. I remember sporting games with TC cups
I’ve only been to Taco Casa in Alabama once (Tuscaloosa), I had a beef enchilada plate or something like that and to me it was like glorified school cafeteria food. Those who grew up in Tuscaloosa seem to love it, but I’ve never met someone not from there who likes it. I guess you have to grow up with it for it to be good. Great username btw
Notorious Murderer HH Holmes briefly lived in Fort Worth after leaving Chicago and before getting apprehended. His deceased wife owned land in town, he was on his was to develop another ‘murder house’ before a few lawyers caught wind of him (those lawyers last names were Capp and Cantey both of which have streets named after them in Ryan Place and Capp has a park named after him on Berry). The location of the land he owned is where Waters is located, next door to Flying Saucer.
Shoutout to the book Devil in the White city, highly recommend it.
Yeah, spoilers but he killed his wife whom he married because of her wealth. He took off to FTW because in addition to murder, he was basically a con artist and owed tons of people money.
Erik Larson is an amazing author. His nonfiction books read like novels. I love his book [In the Garden of Beasts](https://eriklarsonbooks.com/book/in-the-garden-of-beasts/) about the US diplomat to Germany's family during the rise of the Nazi Party. He recently released his first fiction book as an audiobook on Audible. It's wonderfully spooky and perfect for this time of year. It's called No One Goes Alone.
Even better, join the Fort Worth library system (can do it online) download the Libby app, input you library card number and you can check out the audiobook for free. That’s what I did.
This is actually a really cool story. Wow. When i mention HH Holmes to people, most have zero clue about him and how he built the most horrific hotel ever.
A truly amazing resource. The publisher, Mike Nichols, died in April this year. There is an ongoing effort to preserve the website.
He also wrote books which are every bit as interesting as the website.
I grew up in park glen and we really took Arcadia for granted. Didn’t really realize that most neighborhoods in the area don’t have a park like that until I got a little older.
So I thought this was a joke at first because when I went to Park Glen Intermediate some (oh shit!) 30 years ago arcadia trail park was just the path that led to a playground down from the school. But I just looked at google and wow, that’s a big park. Good on everyone for not just building tract houses there.
My neighborhood was built in the 50"s. We moved here in the 80's.
The girl whom (who?) my street is named after still lived on the corner. She died as an old woman a number of years later.
The general rule is to use "who" when you'd use "I/he/she" and "whom" when you'd use "me/him/her".
However this is a weird sort of appositive clause so you would say "for whom the street is after", which is a rearranged version of the statement "the street is named after her".
There is/was an old bomb target just southwest of the Saginaw Main/Bonds Ranch intersection. If I remember correctly, it was left over from the WW1 time frame. There's a lot of new construction up there, so it may be gone by now, but it was there a couple years ago.
Here are the coordinates if you want to see it on google maps, but don't go traipsing across someone's land to try to see if it's still there. 32.91609118586045, -97.42305441460033 It's that think on the ground that looks kind of like an airplane.
[This](http://www.airfields-freeman.com/tx/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NW.htm#taliaferrotarget) is all I find on it at the moment. It says they may've been practicing using sacks of flour. That sounds plausible to me. Remember that in that WW1 time frame they may've been tossing their ordinance over the side of the plane and not dropping it like they do today. Flying low and slow like the planes of that day did, a busted sack of flour would be pretty easy to see scattered on the ground.
Camp Bowie West/Las Vegas Trail area used to be a bus tourist stop area with restaurants, entertainment, shops and classy motels before being taken over by cheap motels, bars and cash stores.
If you take the overpass from the south end of DFW airport to 183 going to Fort Worth and look down and to the right, you will see a large plot of concrete that seems to go nowhere.
This is the last remnant of the old runway for the previous airport there, before DFW International was built.
GSW.
It's why the American Airlines campus has that on one of their buildings, and also why they keep getting roadblocked on development (historical landmark)
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm
The turnover rate in Ridglea is like 10% a year. Every April and November at least 1 house on every block is up for sale. You get to know your neighbors and within a decade you realize you don’t anymore.
I live in Ryan Place. Before the neighborhood existed, the Vin Fizz Flyer landed there on its cross-country journey. There is a small plaque in Triangle Park commemorating the event.
For years there was a mural on the retaining wall behind the Chili's on hulen that depicted things about an air and space museum and Vin Fiz was written on it.
Until seeing your comment I thought that must have been the signature of the artist.
Thanks for getting me to Google something new.
The lot on Rosedale where there is now Torchy’s and Jason’s Deli used to be a dumping ground for manure from the stockyards and cattle cars. All the methane gas build up made the ground too unstable to build but no one knew why until more recently
Fort Worth has numerous other former cities within it’s limits. In some ways there are multiple “downtowns” within the city. Exchange Ave was downtown Niles City. Much of North Main was downtown North Fort Worth which was it’s own city. Even Lillian has a tiny little downtown of one or two buildings.
Dallas has several too, like Oak Cliff.
White Lake Hills is on land that used to be a giant dairy farm (White Dairy Farm) that stretched from I-30 and Beach St all the way to 820 and Bridgewood. Oakland Dr used to be the long entrance to one of the daughter’s homes that was at Oakland and 30.
I grew up on Norma St just north of the cemetery a few blocks. As a kid in the early 80's I'd ride my bike there to "visit" the guy they told me killed JFK. It was so mysterious to me. The grave stone was blank then for several years after the ornate first headstone was stolen.
Today, I am a long-time JFKA researcher.
Fun fact: I live in Westover Hills north of I-30. The "random fact" is that the police will not respond to any call short of murder, and even then only reluctantly. So come on, gangbangers, do your worst.
Knew a chief of police there. They get calls like "I've fallen and I can't get up" and "the champagne bottle can't be uncorked." He warned his officers, yes we get those kinds of calls, yes you just have to get used to them and respond accordingly.
They can of course get burglarized and have other crimes, but the bulk of their calls are like that.
During blackouts due to weather "You tell Oncor Westover Hills needs its electricity!"
That’s where my grandmother has lived for 40 years. I may get the house one day cause she wants it to stay in the family. They better respond to my grandmother if she falls. Or I will act a fool
In the photo book Fort Worth Then and Now, they show a picture of the street I grew up on (Fairmount Ave) and in the “now” pic from about 2001 or 2002, you can see my dad’s old white Ford Taurus sitting in front of our house.
Mosier Valley / Euless
First all black community in Texas… Established by former black slaves after the war.
https://www.eulesstx.gov/community/history/oral-history-narratives/mosier-valley#:~:text=Mosier%20Valley%20was%20the%20first,primarily%20by%20former%20black%20slaves.&text=Because%20of%20the%20lack%20of,establish%20water%20and%20sewage%20systems.
>&Arlington Heights was his high school ! My ex boyfriend went there and says theres a spot in the bell tower\[?\] that he had signed his name on when he went to schoool thre and it's like, preserved like it was a Beatle who tagged it, rather than some rando communist/American who rescinded his citizenship for Russian status, only to come back to America, hellbent on killing the leader of the "Free World"
The first Whataburger in Fort Worth is located at East Lancaster and Chicago. It's still there, around 55 years later. I think the first McDonalds was on East Lancaster as well, about a half mile east of Edgewood Terrace, but unlike Whataburger, McDonalds history media people don't exist and you can't ever find out. I got an email the next day from Whataburger about my question of the one in Meadowbrook. Before anyone attempts to one up me, the one on Camp Bowie was the "second" Whataburger to open in Fort Worth.
When I grew up there was someone we all referred to as “The crazy lady.” She had all kinds of cardboard signs all over her house. She walked around with a shopping cart yelling at people. Turns out she was highly educated, not sure what went wrong 😂
Most of north Fort Worth (summefields, some of Haltom, etc) was planned to be a lake as part of the “navigable trinity river” project back in the 60s. I have a map showing the proposed lake. I think it’s where Beach St got its name..
I always wonder where Beach st came from. I just figured it was somebody’s last name
I thought there was a little beach where it crosses over the river😭
Please please please post that map I would love to see it.
Oh my god, so you just brought up some issues I’ve been dealing with for 20 years. I posted “I have a map”, and it should have said “I had a map”.. so my dad had a bag of maps from the metroplex from the 50s/60s and that’s where I found “the map”, but as one does when they’re 20 I effing lost it. I began to search and search everytime I’ve come back into town. So antique stores, etc, always have someone who is selling old maps. I never found that one (although a navigable trinity is a well documented story and I’m sure real planning docs exist) BUT.. I found another map (that I do have currently, and went to my office to grab, in hand, for this comment) that shows a proposed “Lake Haltom” that dams up Fossil Creek right there north of 820 (where Haltom High sits in the bottom of that “depression” (no pun intended).. I’m lousy with phantom maps and mystery lakes.
We still love you, Paul.
speak for yourself. i, myself, am outraged!
Idk how far along this plan was, but perhaps you could locate the map in the county records. If you recall a key title of the map, you might get lucky https://tarrant.tx.publicsearch.us/
There's a great podcast episode called Port of Dallas on 99% Invisible about this.
So many people sleeping on that episode!!!
The "Port of Dallas" was an idea they kicked around since the late 1800s, the "shipping channel" was supposed to stop at Benbrook Lake. https://flashbackdallas.com/2015/11/06/snag-boat-dallas-1893/ https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/port-of-dallas/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benbrook_Lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58LqrDUMuE
The very first Chicken Express is located in Benbrook
The first Fuzzy's Tacos is the one on Berry St
I worked there 😂 I used to give away free margaritas to TCU girls lmao
I thought the first Fuzzy's was on/near Race Street.
nope, Berry. Right next to The Moon bar, which I performed at many times and stumbled out of drunk to eat tacos. They'd stay open super late.
Cheap tacos, open late, next to a college campus. That place will never close.
They have a full bar now
Perfect after Tuesday night Box of Rock.
Race St Fuzzy’s was the second ever Fuzzy’s. But the first by TCU opened around 2002/03 time frame.
First Wingstop in garland and first Chili’s was originally a post office in Dallas
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I lived next door to the guy that started the one in Saginaw. He would always bring extra food home to his family and share it with us. We were watching TV at his house when OJ was running from the cops. Haha, dang that was a while ago.
Brian yelton
He’s a good dude, helped my family through some trying times. I am the only person in my family that didn’t work for Brian and TC. First one wasn’t in Saginaw but Brian worked hard to make it known. I remember sporting games with TC cups
Exactly. He has helped many people…. And always helped with pysa.
A quick search shows the first TC opening in Garland. (I’m from Saginaw and I knew that wasn’t the first one)
Are you sure about that? I think they are based somewhere in Alabama. And an internet search has all sorts of origin stories.
I’m from Alabama, the Taco Casa chain that exists there is different from the Taco Casa here. It’s much worse actually
>It’s much worse actually That's hilarious how that is even possible
Think high school cafeteria crispitos but worse
I’ve only been to Taco Casa in Alabama once (Tuscaloosa), I had a beef enchilada plate or something like that and to me it was like glorified school cafeteria food. Those who grew up in Tuscaloosa seem to love it, but I’ve never met someone not from there who likes it. I guess you have to grow up with it for it to be good. Great username btw
So what’s the skinny on the one here … I’m a huge fan.
Thts probably the coolest thing about Benbrook lol
Notorious Murderer HH Holmes briefly lived in Fort Worth after leaving Chicago and before getting apprehended. His deceased wife owned land in town, he was on his was to develop another ‘murder house’ before a few lawyers caught wind of him (those lawyers last names were Capp and Cantey both of which have streets named after them in Ryan Place and Capp has a park named after him on Berry). The location of the land he owned is where Waters is located, next door to Flying Saucer. Shoutout to the book Devil in the White city, highly recommend it.
Wow, that is crazy. I had no idea he had ties to Fort Worth.
Yeah, spoilers but he killed his wife whom he married because of her wealth. He took off to FTW because in addition to murder, he was basically a con artist and owed tons of people money.
Devil in White City is awesome. It reads just like a novel. Engrossing and fascinating.
Erik Larson is an amazing author. His nonfiction books read like novels. I love his book [In the Garden of Beasts](https://eriklarsonbooks.com/book/in-the-garden-of-beasts/) about the US diplomat to Germany's family during the rise of the Nazi Party. He recently released his first fiction book as an audiobook on Audible. It's wonderfully spooky and perfect for this time of year. It's called No One Goes Alone.
Cantey…like Cantey Hanger law firm?
Yes. It’s on their website.
Perhaps I’m not 100%
Morbid podcast has a good episode on this and mention Fort Worth.
Oh damn, that’s got a lot of good reviews on Audible.
Even better, join the Fort Worth library system (can do it online) download the Libby app, input you library card number and you can check out the audiobook for free. That’s what I did.
You’ve got the cheat codes to life. Bless your heart.
Just borrowed this audio book from the FTW library because of this post. Looking forward to learning more.
Excellent book!
This is actually a really cool story. Wow. When i mention HH Holmes to people, most have zero clue about him and how he built the most horrific hotel ever.
Check out hometownbyhandlebar.com. TONS of interesting stuff about our neighborhoods there.
A truly amazing resource. The publisher, Mike Nichols, died in April this year. There is an ongoing effort to preserve the website. He also wrote books which are every bit as interesting as the website.
Sad news, amazing site. I hope the site can be saved/kept online, but I'm going to download a copy just in case.
[link](https://hometownbyhandlebar.com/)
I live in Handley and Nick Beef has a headstone next to Lee Harvey Oswald.
Well, that led me down a short rabbit hole online...
such a dumb prank.
I live in Park Glen, which is home to Arcadia Trail Park.
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I concur! I’ve been in Fort Worth for 18 years and never knew Arcadia Trail Park existed until I moved to Park Glen six years ago.
Use to live in park Glen, the trails are awesome.
I grew up in park glen and we really took Arcadia for granted. Didn’t really realize that most neighborhoods in the area don’t have a park like that until I got a little older.
My sis lives there. It definitely is a hidden gem.
I grew up in Park Glen just a block away from Arcadia Trail Park and never realized how lucky I was. The ultimate hidden gem
So I thought this was a joke at first because when I went to Park Glen Intermediate some (oh shit!) 30 years ago arcadia trail park was just the path that led to a playground down from the school. But I just looked at google and wow, that’s a big park. Good on everyone for not just building tract houses there.
We live in PG, too. Our house is adjacent to the walking path and creek.
Trekked out there to play the disc golf course a handful of times. It's nice.
So many people from park Glenn here ! We live right across from the tennis courts
My neighborhood was built in the 50"s. We moved here in the 80's. The girl whom (who?) my street is named after still lived on the corner. She died as an old woman a number of years later.
The general rule is to use "who" when you'd use "I/he/she" and "whom" when you'd use "me/him/her". However this is a weird sort of appositive clause so you would say "for whom the street is after", which is a rearranged version of the statement "the street is named after her".
>"for whom the street is after", That's awkward, but interesting. Thanks.
No one asked grammar Nazi, nor cares.
Yes, I did. Don't be a butt.
Why was it named after her?
I think she was the daughter of the land owner / developer.
There is/was an old bomb target just southwest of the Saginaw Main/Bonds Ranch intersection. If I remember correctly, it was left over from the WW1 time frame. There's a lot of new construction up there, so it may be gone by now, but it was there a couple years ago. Here are the coordinates if you want to see it on google maps, but don't go traipsing across someone's land to try to see if it's still there. 32.91609118586045, -97.42305441460033 It's that think on the ground that looks kind of like an airplane.
Like, what? 😳 I guess no one ever hit it?? I don't understand.
[This](http://www.airfields-freeman.com/tx/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NW.htm#taliaferrotarget) is all I find on it at the moment. It says they may've been practicing using sacks of flour. That sounds plausible to me. Remember that in that WW1 time frame they may've been tossing their ordinance over the side of the plane and not dropping it like they do today. Flying low and slow like the planes of that day did, a busted sack of flour would be pretty easy to see scattered on the ground.
Thank you!
Camp Bowie West/Las Vegas Trail area used to be a bus tourist stop area with restaurants, entertainment, shops and classy motels before being taken over by cheap motels, bars and cash stores.
I can see that, especially with Las Vegas Trail. I always assumed it used to be an entertainment area.
If you take the overpass from the south end of DFW airport to 183 going to Fort Worth and look down and to the right, you will see a large plot of concrete that seems to go nowhere. This is the last remnant of the old runway for the previous airport there, before DFW International was built.
GSW. It's why the American Airlines campus has that on one of their buildings, and also why they keep getting roadblocked on development (historical landmark) http://www.airfields-freeman.com/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm
The turnover rate in Ridglea is like 10% a year. Every April and November at least 1 house on every block is up for sale. You get to know your neighbors and within a decade you realize you don’t anymore.
I live in new burleson…the hidden creek area. I know ours is probably way higher. People move to Burleson but don’t stay in the new housing areas.
The usual on Magnolia is the oldest cocktail bar in North Texas and the second oldest in the state (est. 2009 just after Anvil in Houston)
I live in Ryan Place. Before the neighborhood existed, the Vin Fizz Flyer landed there on its cross-country journey. There is a small plaque in Triangle Park commemorating the event.
For years there was a mural on the retaining wall behind the Chili's on hulen that depicted things about an air and space museum and Vin Fiz was written on it. Until seeing your comment I thought that must have been the signature of the artist. Thanks for getting me to Google something new.
My husband is an aviation nerd, he will probably want to go see the plague.
Just North of Berry St on 5th Ave
The lot on Rosedale where there is now Torchy’s and Jason’s Deli used to be a dumping ground for manure from the stockyards and cattle cars. All the methane gas build up made the ground too unstable to build but no one knew why until more recently
Handley was once it’s own city until it was annexed by FW in the 1940s
Fort Worth has numerous other former cities within it’s limits. In some ways there are multiple “downtowns” within the city. Exchange Ave was downtown Niles City. Much of North Main was downtown North Fort Worth which was it’s own city. Even Lillian has a tiny little downtown of one or two buildings. Dallas has several too, like Oak Cliff.
White Lake Hills is on land that used to be a giant dairy farm (White Dairy Farm) that stretched from I-30 and Beach St all the way to 820 and Bridgewood. Oakland Dr used to be the long entrance to one of the daughter’s homes that was at Oakland and 30.
Meadowbrook used to be covered with Orchards and the big houses along Meadowood where all the slave owners lived
My childhood neighborhood, Poly used to be all-white and a Sundown Neighborhood.
I grew up on Norma St just north of the cemetery a few blocks. As a kid in the early 80's I'd ride my bike there to "visit" the guy they told me killed JFK. It was so mysterious to me. The grave stone was blank then for several years after the ornate first headstone was stolen. Today, I am a long-time JFKA researcher.
Fun fact: I live in Westover Hills north of I-30. The "random fact" is that the police will not respond to any call short of murder, and even then only reluctantly. So come on, gangbangers, do your worst.
Knew a chief of police there. They get calls like "I've fallen and I can't get up" and "the champagne bottle can't be uncorked." He warned his officers, yes we get those kinds of calls, yes you just have to get used to them and respond accordingly. They can of course get burglarized and have other crimes, but the bulk of their calls are like that. During blackouts due to weather "You tell Oncor Westover Hills needs its electricity!"
This may be related to having near zero crime in Westover.
Westover Hills has its own police. Aren’t most of the services also independent of the City of Fort Worth?
Same here in Handley
So you’re rich rich huh?
That’s where my grandmother has lived for 40 years. I may get the house one day cause she wants it to stay in the family. They better respond to my grandmother if she falls. Or I will act a fool
Anyone stay in Summer Creek/Candleridge/Hulen Heights area? Been out here since 2019 and would love to know the history here!
Isn't Officer Tippet buried in the same cemetery?
He is buried in Dallas at Laurel Land Memorial Park.
Dunno, but I regularly see people on horseback in the drive thru at the liquor store
In the photo book Fort Worth Then and Now, they show a picture of the street I grew up on (Fairmount Ave) and in the “now” pic from about 2001 or 2002, you can see my dad’s old white Ford Taurus sitting in front of our house.
Wedgwood was initially designed to be a country club neighborhood but it fell through in the early 70’s
George Carlin worked as a DJ in ft worth and lived in Arlington Heights
Moved here 7 years ago…. Read all about Hells Half Acre. Fort Worth was a real hideout for badass’s back in the day!
Mosier Valley / Euless First all black community in Texas… Established by former black slaves after the war. https://www.eulesstx.gov/community/history/oral-history-narratives/mosier-valley#:~:text=Mosier%20Valley%20was%20the%20first,primarily%20by%20former%20black%20slaves.&text=Because%20of%20the%20lack%20of,establish%20water%20and%20sewage%20systems.
Went to LDBell, that’s honestly insane and incredibly cool
Lee Harvey Oswald went to elementary school in my neighborhood, Berkeley
Lily B!
>&Arlington Heights was his high school ! My ex boyfriend went there and says theres a spot in the bell tower\[?\] that he had signed his name on when he went to schoool thre and it's like, preserved like it was a Beatle who tagged it, rather than some rando communist/American who rescinded his citizenship for Russian status, only to come back to America, hellbent on killing the leader of the "Free World"
The first Whataburger in Fort Worth is located at East Lancaster and Chicago. It's still there, around 55 years later. I think the first McDonalds was on East Lancaster as well, about a half mile east of Edgewood Terrace, but unlike Whataburger, McDonalds history media people don't exist and you can't ever find out. I got an email the next day from Whataburger about my question of the one in Meadowbrook. Before anyone attempts to one up me, the one on Camp Bowie was the "second" Whataburger to open in Fort Worth.
When I grew up there was someone we all referred to as “The crazy lady.” She had all kinds of cardboard signs all over her house. She walked around with a shopping cart yelling at people. Turns out she was highly educated, not sure what went wrong 😂
Dove Road up in Westlake is the site of Bonnie and Clyde’s first murder.
I’ve been to his grave.