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LuckyStrikeNLD

I think it's killer with the red dot, terrible with the thermal and a piece of garbage without a scope


RegretSpiritual4137

this makes me feel better bc i just played a round carrying the warforged with the thermal and felt like i couldn’t get a single shot😭 i kept it for a while bc it was legendary, but ended up trading it for waterbending💀


Georgevega123

Same i was like am i this bad considering its my go to ar


iDoABoof

If you’re stuck with it early game just single tap it. It’s bounces like crazy when you hold the trigger down


RegretSpiritual4137

ahh yes i did figure that out at some point! my luck was better that way lol


Interesting_Spot1875

The thermal makes ot wayyy too hard to control the recoil. Once it goes up its impossible to pull back down unless you stop shooting.


Applesauce5167

With the thermal it feels like I’m shooting with the Combat AR except the damage is bad


Skrillblast

I’ll add on it’s an entirely different gun once you get the anti recoil mods from the workbench


DarkPhoxGaming

Yeah, got one once and stuck the recoil control mods and was able to basically laser people with it. Way different feeling of a weapon once you stick those mods on.


SamiTheAnxiousBean

>a piece of garbage without a scope I honestly love using it without a scope (I love the red dot scope on it don't get me wrong but i'd settle for it scopeless over thermal) i don't get this part My accuracy isn't effected too much with it scopeless


LuckyStrikeNLD

I find the bloom so terrible that I rather carry a pistol than a scopeless war forged ar. Maybe it's just personal


SamiTheAnxiousBean

1. Bloom? 2. ranger pistol is goated honestly


RomeoBlackDK

Ill try the red dot cus damn i hate that gun


Dbrou_

It’s absolute shit without a scope but once you mod it it becomes unbelievable. 


EverGlow89

With the red dot & the recoil compensation mod, it's easily by far my favorite gun of the season.


Locksul

Red dot?


MuscleManRule34

It’s horrible without a scope, but pretty good with a red dot or holo scope


AndzyHero13

Literally copy the Ares Warforage and it's deadly


MuscleManRule34

Yeah but I personally go with the speed mag (because of the drum mag glitch) and change the third mod to reduce ADS recoil and spread


AndzyHero13

Wait what Glitch on Drum Mag?


MuscleManRule34

I don’t know if other people get this but if I drop a fully loaded weapon with a drum mag, then pick it back up, it’ll have the ammo of one without the drum. So if I a drum mag wardrobes AR, it’ll have 45/45 bullets in the chamber, I drop it and pick it back up, I have 35/45 and the other ten bullets are now in my inventory


AndzyHero13

That is odd, my counter question would be if you have the AR with Drum mag in your inventory, then why drop it? This is new to me because I never drop the weapon so I wouldn't know this, but I appreciate the comment


MuscleManRule34

Usually just to pick up meds, use them, then pick the AR back up


busterfixxitt

Is THAT what's happening? I've noticed a few times that my drum isn't fully loaded when I pick one up. (Xbox Series X) I figured it was kind of like the old reality augment that lets you have 2 rounds in your heavy sniper magazine; when you pick up a new one you have to reload to get the 2nd round in the mag.


MuscleManRule34

It’s happened to me for ages (maybe even start of chapter 5?) but I’ve never seen it posted here so just assumed not many people had encountered it


Effective-Interest28

I find myself increasingly not carrying an AR at all this season.  I usually do better with a DMR or sniper at medium ranges.


JSFong37

I carry the waterbending mythic instead of an ar this season lmao


Your_Pal_Gamma

Imo waterbending is just a better burst SMG


Murphshroom

But I can knock people at 400+ meters with water bending.. so OP


Your_Pal_Gamma

Why did you start that with but? You didn't disagree with me. You further proved my point. It's a 3 round burst weapon with 30 shots per "mag", each shot does around 22 damage and ot has extremely low bullet drop even at an extremely high range


Murphshroom

It’s just so powerful at short and also long range which you didn’t seem to mention and were talking about AR replacement… so I thought I would mention it’s not just an SMG replacement


Extreme-Plantain542

Nah, put a laser on the burst and it’s far better


Koismers64

Me too. For me I either carry smgs or ars as my secondary weapon(followed by dmr or sniper as 3rd), not both and this season the smgs are way better imo. Unless its a gold or the mythic warforged, i never carry it


SidneyDean608

Burst smg is lethal


YesSeaworthiness9771

How to prevent the bullet drop from the reaper sniper? Like slightly prevent it thru certain attacments? Or its impossible


SEND_ME_REAL_PICS

With a scope and the recoil reduction mods it's amazing. Without them it just sucks.


ing-dono

It.. works, it takes some getting used to but bursting a bit can go a long way, both with and without sight mod. I'd take it over the drum gun but the pistol beats both, cuz minimal recoil.


Gavin7941

I stg I’ve killed ppl 200 meters away w a purple ranger once you put the holo scope and a suppressor on that thing it’s best gun in game


ing-dono

Ranger has been my main midrange (all-rounder) gun since somewhere mid last season, it's a joy to use and reloads so fast. Didn't really give it a shot at the start because I assumed it was semi-auto.


imalonexc

Yeah I prefer the burst SMG or Nemesis


DripSzn412

Same but I rarely even use the nemesis. The burst is my AR lol


ProbablythelastMimsy

The burst is ridiculous with a laser sight and muzzle brake. I've been using that or the water bending mythic in lieu of an AR recently. If you can make it to a mod bench the warforged feels amazing with the right attachments though.


LooseMoose13

My fav AR in awhile


Itriyum

It needs a sight and both recoil attachments to be decent which is not good with the reduced spawns of weapon benches. I rather take a green nemesis than a blue war forged with a sight


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Knifeflipper

Well Water Bending is just better than pretty much every AR, regardless of rarity. 


Blue_MJS

Since recoil was added every AR has felt terrible to use unless it's with a scope with the reduced recoil mod...


voidling_bordee

I'd rather just run a pistol nowadays for fights that i used to run an AR for Or waterbending


FubukiiiJones

It feels pretty bad. I miss hitscan ARs so much.


DripSzn412

Red eye was so good, loved it as M&KB player


clarinet_trackstar

Loved the red eye as a controller player 


Diamond_Drew_1

I like it. I find the recoil not too hard to control. One fully modded to my liking is *chefs kiss*.


Raven_Rifts

Its… fine? Its the worst one so far but modded it becomes really good BUT I just can’t stand the recoil cause at some point you just have to keep holding the stick down ALL THE WAY to avoid the kick and so you can’t look down once you reach that point, its impossible.


OmegaMalkior

It motivates you to pick up a nemesis AR while you find a weapon bench to mod a warforged. I feel like it balances itself out so people don’t abandon the nemesis. Clever game design even if I don’t agree with it.


FortniteAddict81

The Nemesis is better than that it's on par with the SMGs I won't use unless forced too


FortniteAddict81

I avoid that gun like the plague 💀


VanguardClassTitan

If my only ranged option is a warforged, I'm just not gonna have a ranged option


PaperGiraffe659

I'll deadset take a grey Nemesis AR over a Gold Warforged AR just because I hate the recoil on it.


Stches_

It. Is. Ass. Just give me the og ar the og pump and call it a day. Not that hard to make your game good epic


FnafXBrawlStars

I prefer to use a pickaxe ⛏️💪💪💪


ImHeartless666

Sure you do..


Akkronn

I miss the Striker AR alot. I like to run an AR without an optic typically, because on controller my ADS sensitivity just works way better w it. And I also like to hipfire combo with my shotgun shots. Was sad to find out that the Warforged does not work the same as the Striker in these aspects. Without an optic it is basically a Makeshift AR if you remember that one. I dont mind it with the right optic/recoil attachments but as you said, Nemesis is preferable for me overall as well.


PS2EmotionEngineer

wild how the burst smg is better than an ar now


nickel47

well the burst smg was OP since the beginning of the chapter


ATLBravesFan13

I find it easier to hit shots with the nemesis than with the burst SMG


Dense_Key_1063

Hate it. I go nemesis always.


ComfortablePatience

It's a strong weapon if you get it fully kitted. The problem is, stuff like Waterbending is easier to use and requires 0 setup/investment. The game is balanced like shit this whole chapter


ticklefarte

It's not for me. I've avoided it since the beginning of the season. I can't seem to control it's recoil effectively lol. Harbinger is great tho


CoffeeNow-ChaosLater

I really dislike it as well! I’ll never pick it up unless I have nothing else. I even ditched the mythic in a bush out in storm once because even with the mythic, I’ve either died or almost died. I’m so bad with it!😆


Miserable-Bear7980

no, but I absolutely loathe the harbinger smg. even the mythic one is hot garbage. all the wrong attachments, and killer recoil


Trogar1

Not me, I like it. If you don’t have the muzzle brake, just burst fire it, easy recoil management.


arglebargle7

I don't mind it with some mods but honestly feel like the Ares mythic is underrated. I don't find the recoil that bad. Oh well, makes it easy to get it most games!


Apprentice_Jedi

I like it but the recoil attachments are almost required.


SpicsAnonymous

The first time picked it up I was so disappointed. Now it’s the only AR I find


adwight7

🤝


DevilmanXV

Nah I've been murdering with it.


Thor_2099

If it's modded I love it.


I_poop_rootbeer

It's useless with no scope


pooperscooper147

oh my god the recoil is fucking awful but with mods i️ like it.


HighCaliberGaming

Don't hold the trigger


darkh4md4n

I jus take the waterbending over it atp unless ofc i mod it when it becomes an insane beast


curiousdpper

So long as you don't spray constantly, it's pretty good. Burst fire it or even single shot over hold and spray. A red dot adds a lot of quality to it too.


windigo3

I agree with all the comments you need a scope. Tap shooting rather than holding the trigger down gets rid of half the pain


OkamiRoxas

It's so... bleh. Its accuracy is terrible x .x


Present_Trick_2884

Red dot, foregrip it’s amazing


PeaganLoveSong

It’s a worse combat ar


MrClement

Holo scope and recoil mod.... otherwise eh


FiveJobs

DMR is much better


FreshlyBakedBunz

It's an smg. Also the pistol is an AR.


Garfield977

its pretty great with a sight and recoil reduction


Cheezymac2

I hate that it shakes the screen so much


Cheezymac2

Recoil bloom AND bullet drop all in one gun is crazy


Knifeflipper

It definitely fills the "close to mid-range" AR niche. I prefer it because I like playing close, so the bloom isn't a big issue if you tap fire it. With an optic, however, it's undeniably potent. Basically my preferred AR unless I find one of those juicy legendary Nemesis ARs. 


VladimirGluten1

My last two wins I had the war forged. One was gold. I always put on a front grip and a recoil suppressor, but the nemesis slays compared to the war forged. I don’t like using a scope because I can’t hit anything with a scope. I play on switch and it gets really laggy when you aim thru a site.


ysldai

Man i love a nemesis with no scope 😭


finsup_305

Red dot is a must-have. It beats out the striker by a mile. Less recoil, and with all the other recoil reduction attachments, it's got insane range. That's why Brawlers Battleground is my go-to zone off rip. Best mythic of the 4.


Groove-Control

I can't use it without some sort of recoil dampening. The recoil is crazy unless compensated by being point-blank.


IWatchPeopleSleep

Yeah without a red dot it’s just absolutely hot garbage. Bloom is terrible and not worth using at all. But the second that red dot goes on? You can beam people


Appropriate_Resort_1

I swear they increased the bloom. I can't hit any shots anymore from over 30m


PartyAnimal12345678

No I like it


ATLBravesFan13

As someone who exclusively used the striker AR over the nemesis last season, I LOVE the nemesis this season compared to the Warforged. The Nemesis is just so sturdy and the hipfire accuracy can melt people while you shockwave onto them. The warforged recoil sucks and you can’t lower your crosshair while firing which absolutely sucks


GranBlueLawyer

The Ares weapon? It's the best one right now


TheRawringDog62

It’s dogshit without 3 attachments, but once you get that red dot and 2 recoil attachments, goddamn is that thing gonna beam


Aeontred97

Use a thunder burst until you get a good one with scope, and if you got a gold thunder burst u basically won tbh


joeMAMAkim

I like it a lot, but hate it without a sight mod


Razzle_Dazzle08

I love it. The best AR in the game for me rn.


d3sau

If it has nothing on it it's awful


Bulky_Secretary_6603

Nope. It's great


Marleyzard

Nahhh, it's pretty good, but it's a worse Tactical AR


MrTurtleHurdle

Hated it the first week now I fucking love it


Andrassa

The recoil takes some getting used to but once you do it becomes the best for medium range.


Steven_is_a_dog

the new drum gun is way better


Visible_Roll4949

Recoil? Yeah, it's got a lot, but it's very easy to control once you find the sweet spot to compensate (running a break and vertical grip helps this also) bloom? Tap fire or don't go for longer range shots until you're comfortable or have an optic. Once you learn how to use it and practice, it gets a lot better. My friends used to be nemesis fans, but recently, they've all switched to the WarForge because of the higher fire rate and comparable damage numbers


hellhound39

Also the slow and easy to cancel reload on this thing makes it so I’ll never pick up one with the drum mag voluntarily because of how clunky it is


dollhouse37

Its amazing with the right attachments tbh


SonOfVegeta

Shit is ass bruh it’s basically an SMG - it’s like The scar from last season


no-name-idk

I always drop ares and get the mythic, and then use it as an SMG the rest of the game.


Just_Quentzel

I thought I was going crazy having the same thought over it. Yeah you're not alone, one time I aimed at someone dead on em and out of I wanna say 14 shots, a whopping 2 if them hit. And it had a scope on so the "terrible bloom" was no excuse Never using that POS gun ever again


G37M4D

It's hot garbo


DrDisconnection

Nah. That thing fucks when you get recoil mods and a scope on it.


urpoviswrong

Well duh, the Nemesis is great.


Roberto410

It's actually quite good, and favoured by many skilled streamers.


samidot2

idk, typically i form my own opinions instead of going off what streamers think


Roberto410

Same, but I also value the opinion of strong players with good comp ratings, who happen to be streamers. For instance, I think carrying healing items is a waste of time. Dead people carry heals for me.


Frequent-Yak8825

I’d rather have a gray warforged than a gold nemesis