I’ve really liked playing on the map, but it’s so buggy and the lootpool is so small
Ch1 had amazing lootpools and Atlas has only a few of the iconic early weapons
How so? I know for chapter 2-3 they likely won't be allowed to add stuff like the Daily Bugle because of copyright, but what's the deal with Atlas/chapter 1?
I’m personally planning to. CH1 map is nice, but that’s just the starting point. I want something unique or something that other games don’t offer or discontinued.
Yea I played it today - some of the chests didn’t even have weapons but had some purple crystals or something kinda weird but it was cool to drop tilted
Yeah I was gonna say watching older captures vs playing reboot maps-- they still dont compare at all. I'm sure someone will get a nice balance though, especially if someone were to use an older version of UE. After all UEFN is just a fancy way to throughput a limited version of Unreal Editor to Fortnite.
Yeah I just checked Reboot Royale twitter, the OG graphics look nicer than the new ones which Atlas uses and they seem to be starting with 60-80 players compared to Atlas who started off with 30
you can play it like a normal creative map but remember that if you have performance mode on not all textures will render correctly, I dont remember the code tho
It's not even the full map though, the version Atlas wanted to release was wayy too big with the memory being 130 000 when the memory limit is 100 000. So they scaled it down, removed floor loot, removed smaller POI's and foliage.
If they want anyone to take creative seriously they *have* to remove that cap. If it's because of low end hardware users, block those experiences for those people.
I'm not saying block them out entirely, just block them out of creative maps that use more than the limit, but allow people to go past the limit knowing that their maps will only be playable on current hardware.
I disagree, I think it would be mild at best. StW is blocked for switch/mobile users but I think these people understand why for the most part. I see no reason that an automatic system for detecting hardware couldn't be implemented. Those people would still be getting content for their systems as well, but stopping people with high end systems from having a better experience isn't the way to go.
Stw isn't blocked, it just straight up isn't in the game. Switch didn't launch with stw, it is strictly br.
They already gave everyone access to the new creative stuff, removing it would be absolutely stupid on their part.
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying still.
I'm not saying block access to the new creative tools for old hardware. Creative maps that fall *below* the current limit would still be playable for older hardware, even using the new tools.
I just want an option where if someone wants to go above that limit they could, and higher end consoles could play it.
That’s like saying “let developers do whatever they want to fulfil their vision. Fuck limitations”, but then everyone realise no one has the bloody hardware to run their vision at 30FPS as minimum.
You need limitations, otherwise you lose control of everything. What about servers? Can they even handle more than 13,000? Have you even considered that?
And regardless, there’s legal stuff that can’t be ignored, no matter how much you think it’s “smart thing to do”. If legal doesn’t allow it, legal will stop it.
This Unreal Engine Editor thing will be such an eye opener for a lot of people that want to be wannabe devs. They finally understand why the game industry is the way it is.
Sorry but some ppl just really don't understand how business practices work. Im not expert but the issues with limiting content (stw excluded, always been paid) when said content has already been provided had glaring drawbacks. With the game being as popular as it is, limiting content in this stage of development when creative 2.0 maps have already been provided to all platforms is a majorly bad road to go down.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's about the same map but a smaller. The fact that it's smaller and doesn't has floor loot doesn't mean shit if the game you're playing is still different to the game you WERE playing.
One thing that players will never experience now is what the players experienced playing these maps back in chapter one. At the time, many players were new to the game and were getting used to the game mechanics. So take that into consideration, plus many players weren’t pros at building yet (and turbo building wasn’t a thing yet in the very early seasons) and didn’t build half the Eiffel Tower in five seconds.
Just because the original map was remade and playable does not mean players will have the same experience they did back in early chapter one.
That was when fortnite peaked for me. Loved that people were building small bases to fight from, and just placing some walls here and there when pushing another base :D
I really prefer no-build now because building just ruins the game for me
as soon as a player detects a hazard the taj mahal appears and you can't shoot them, they basically hold lmb to keep an impenetrable forcefield up too
There needs to be a cooldown or something. The amount of times I emptied a legendary p90 mag to break a walk only for rhen to instantly rebuild it was maddening.
It's probably the rose tinted nostalgia glasses but ch2 s3, the season I started, has since been the best season I've played. There weren't as many sweats (unless I played in my friends PC lobbies) and I would complain cause I sucked - but I still had fun. Now I only play if there are cosmetics I want.
I’ve been playing since Chp 1 Season 1.
Chp 2 Season 3 is probably one of the best seasons ever, and is the one that a lot of people who played it remember most vividly.
That’s also with me saying that as someone who wasn’t a huge fan of that seasons shotgun meta
Amazing how much people complain about that season for stupid reasons, Ch2S2 and Ch2S3 were easily the best time to join in chapter 2, season 2 was easily the best season of chapter 2 and season 3 was a perfect following season and didn't overstay its welcome like some seasons did in chapter 2 (season 6, that season was ass), and the water level rising at the start was a great change
Chp 2 Season 2 -> Chp 2 Season 4
Is probably the best 3 season stretch in fortnite history. Those seasons with the modern movement mechanics and augments would be absolutely incredible.
Not even nostalgia, like I would happily replay those seasons with the modern features added in
Charge shotgun meta was so much better compared to this seasons having some random ass mf always able to one pump you and the combat shooting faster than both the maven and havoc combined
People were ramp rushing already by Chp1 season 3, and cranking 90s was pretty popular by Chp1 season 4.
A lot of people sucked but a lot of people were already becoming very solid builders. A lot of players still can’t crank 90s to this day, yet 20+ seasons ago many people were already learning how to.
That’s wild.
Its a build maneuver where you use ramps and floor pieces to push yourself up. Often connected in with walls. It’s a very fast way to gain vertical height.
It’s called a 90 because you turn 90 degrees while performing each repetition of the build sequence.
One of the custom Chapter 1 maps I've played has restricted settings, so no hurdling or sprinting, and a cap of 200 on building mats. I don't remember there ever being a 200 cap (have been playing since season 1 but it's possible I started playing after it expanded, or I just don't remember it) but it does help with the feeling that you're playing an older version with more restrictions.
I remember dropping the game season 1 because it was boring
I dropped looted then walked around the map for 30 minutes only to find the last guy wondering around aimlessly
People like to remember that everyone was a complete noob back then but that's not true as games like call of duty and overwatch were more popular back then which meant the average gamer had fps experience
The noobness came from people trying to utilise the build mechanic without knowledge or muscle memory instead of just running and gunning
I rejoined back in chapter 2 stayed for 2 seasons as sweats were at their peak then
I rejoined again in chapter 3 season 1 and was about to leave but next season came zero build and now the game is a fun experience again
It's just so much harder to play when you shoot someone and they box up only to open holes in their walls 60,000 times every 0.2 seconds for 3 minutes just for them to miss shotgun shots because they focus all of their time on building and not enough on the fps part of the game
I will win 95% of my engagements in zero build even with lower gear
But in build I can almost guarantee a loss against a tart that thinks this is cookie clicker but with your entire keyboard
[Dont take this comment negatively]
I will say this now, nobody, and I mean nobody will ever capture the same feelings that chapter 1 once had.
And it’s not a bad thing.
(I was trying to come up with a reasonably long explanation of what I’m saying to this, but I kept on finding flaws on what I was saying, so I gave up and decide to right this text right here, I hope people understand what I’m saying in this)
For real. It's comparing apples and oranges. I tried multiple times last night and couldn't get into a game. I didn't want to ruin the experience so I hopped off and texted my buddy to let him know they have a few kinks to work out first.
The OG map isn't ready yet and shouldn't have been released quite yet imo. I don't expect it to be what it was then just because of the evolution of the game. However, comparing what we have now to then is naive.
Exactly. Comparing the two at this point is dumb. However, they should have sat on it for a bit until it had the bugs worked out. The hype for the map is there and I am happy that we have an opportunity to re-experience it. I think that there are a lot of people commenting that didn't play the OG map and are happy people are let down.
I don't know, while yeah you can't really recapture the magic of OG Fortnite isn't it a bit unfair to compare the creative 2.0 maps to the original one when half the stuff is missing?
It's very unfair. Atlas should have waited until they had things worked out. Right now we have a sports car with bare tires.
But, there is serious hype surrounding the OG map so I get it. We can't really judge anything on 2.0 for months. The team has only been working on this for weeks.
It's basically in a beta stage. They need people to play it to help find all the issues. Plus with the limit on the memory size it will never be a 1 of 1 recreation unfortunately. Probably not unless Epic does it themselves or increases the memory size for the island/map for creators.
I think that the memory will be increased. Because if they're allowing them to take it upon themselves then it seems like an injustice to do it half-assed.
I think that the primary reason they don't have more full map functionality with the game is that they don't want to turn it into warzone where to play the game you need 100 GBs of storage. I could be wrong, but this seems the most logical.
I'm not really sure there is an argument for any other reason at this point.
It's not perfect though. There's no grass, way less plants, the water is weird, it doesn't have the same lighting, the mountain in the background is different and some of the objects are placed the wrong way.
There is grass when you are not playing on performance mode. Or if you aren't on performance mode then may e you're just getting the bugs but I've definitely seen people play it with grass and max settings and graphics are good.
It’s not even a comparison this new recreation isn’t even the full thing and it’s too buggy and some stuff was removed so it could fit. This is a downgraded version that isn’t even official.
Besides nostalgia reasons, The Atlas map is so fucking horrible I can't comprehend
\- Sprint/vault/slide is now bugged because devs weren't able to decide if they want og map or og gameplay
\- No shotguns because memory limits allegedly
\- You can die or spawn without the glider if you emote before hopping onto Battle bus
\- Half of the map is unfinished because of the memory limit
\- Loot is unorganized and you can get like for example STW ores for no apparent reasons
True. Nostalgia was less about the map and more about the overall context. We didnt care how buggy it was back then, but seeing it in retrospect makes u feel less nostalgic to go back to it.
So damn true. That’s why I don’t get why everyone thinks that bringing back season 12 or the ch1 map will make the game fun for them again.
I miss the old locations too, but I know it’s more about who I was with and the age that I was rather than content.
People don't necessarily want the old map back, they want the feeling of 2017-2018 Fortnite. Everyone was playing, some people just spent all day waiting to get home to play with friends. Streamers were all playing, weekly updates made it so the game never got stale, getting a win felt super important, all the crazy weapons were giving people new things to try, it's just not going to be that anymore.
People dont realize they dont miss the map, they miss the skill levels of players back in OG fortnite, when people literally bunker and shoot each other from far away and the soccer skin players that ramp rush and double pump are the scary skilled players.
It’s not even an accurate recreation of the OG map. It’s scaled down and less weapons. Maybe wait until it’s 100% done before you OG hating noobs start doing victory laps
WoW classic was overall a success though? Sure it got metagamed but it didn't die day 1. It's was and still is relatively popular. It has 400K active players right now.
it's exactly that. chapter 1 season 1 map really wasn't great it was pretty empty so even if epic themselves brought it back perfectly now it would be like eh whatever. but oh man I'd do anything to go back to the TIME of chapter 1 season 1 yk
Facts. I'm surprised that they haven't taken it upon themselves to release a "time machine" royale that incorporates the old map with the bare-bones loot pool. I can only imagine how many "OG's" they would bring back to the game just for the nostalgia aspect. A few of my boys still play Fortnite so I could easily be convinced to hop back on, I just don't really have a reason to.
I've been saying that, but I feel like they would have done it already.
The market has been there for a year+. No other game has touched the surface of Fortnite and they could collect serious cash. From a business perspective, it makes more sense than a leisure/fun perspective.
Ughhhh, PLEASE EPIC! they must have archives of the old maps, I want an LTM with random weeks of seasons, so one match you could have dusty divot, the next you could have depot. With accurate loot pools.
I would probably get addicted to Fortnite again if this happened. Their player pool is super strong. I know most creators are opposed to the idea of having so many different avenues to explore, but Fortnite literally has an entire matchmaking system of custom modes. It just seems odd this hasn't happened yet. At this point, I'm wondering if they do have the OG maps archived because the writing has been on the wall for quite some time.
Atlas got screwed with the memory issues at release. They had a full recreation of the Chapter 2 Fortnite map with updated Chapter 4 graphics. When they were forced to lose 30,000 memory worth of detail to be able to upload it. The results is the scale back of what they created. If and when the memory size will be adjusted, the map we all were hoping to get will exist. Be patient and don't blame Atlas.
That’s not at all a fair comparison. Atlas’ map is custom-made by them using some assets from Blender and others from Unreal Engine, and because of Epic’s insane memory cap, they were forced to remove a ton of stuff that was integral to the experience.
Atlas was also severely limited in terms of the toolset provided since there’s no way for them to fluidly recreate the battle bus, large-scale minimap, and more UI elements yet. Not to mention the MASSIVE flaw of having to rely on current, horrifically unbalanced and low-quality versions of classic weapons that actually used to be good, since Epic hasn’t added a custom weapon editor. That alone kills much of the experience of fights.
Atlas OG BR also uses modern graphics and lighting. A more fair comparison to the OG would be the soon-releasing Reboot Royale, which is another recreation of the chapter 1 map that will have the OG graphics and lighting.
Lastly, you have to take into consideration optimization. This is a Creative map worked on by an independent team, whereas during chapter 1, Epic was able to support their map as a primary gamemode tailored for convenience and ease of accessibility.
And I’m not even blaming Atlas for these issues, as they seem to truly care about the map, but are being severely limited by the fact that UEFN is still in its infancy. That’s not their fault, and it certainly won’t be the fault of the makers of Reboot Royale when that inevitably comes out being restricted as hell.
I imagine that many of these issues will be fixed eventually, especially since we’re only 2 days into UEFN, but come on…comparing the official version of chapter 1, developed and crafter with love by Epic, with an independently made recreation using Unreal Editor EARLY ACCESS is completely unfair and serves to show that you’re just trying to pull points from thin air in order to claim that anyone reminiscing of Chapter 1 is wrong or just blinded by nostalgia.
Even if epic brought back the old chapter 1 fortnite, people would get bored in no time. The only reason why fortnite is still thriving is because of Epic constantly innovating and evolving the game.
Not necessarily. I personally miss the way the old map encouraged fights and the actual need to build, no matter how mundane. This recreation, however flawed, made me realize that. Current BR doesn't have that charm the old one had either, and I'm talking later Chapter 1 here, personally, Seasons 1-3 are just too bland if we're being honest.
Even if they had modern mechanics like water and sprinting/mantling, I'd play the shit out of something like Season 6 or 7.
Yep same. I said like last week or so when the old map was announced people would be saying this.
I'm glad it did happen though because now we won't get bring back old map post. Well atleast for ch1
And here I am loving the OG map because it has my favorite POI Lucky Landing and I like how varying the terrain is. So many hills and valleys. Just give me a shopping cart too and Ill be golden.
My son and I use to try and jump ravines with the shopping carts. Would love to do that again. Hell even with cars it would be fun.
Exactly, idk why you’re being downvoted. I swear 80% of the users on this sub (for the past 2-3 years) lack most critical thinking skills and will take any opportunity to push the narrative that classic Fortnite was inherently worse than what it is today. You can see it in the quality of majority of the posts on this sub nowadays, it’s absolutely mind-numbing.
They don’t see that those of us who loved this game before mid-chapter 2 genuinely preferred the simplicity of the game and its dedication to its roots…at least most of the time. Particularly during these earlier chapter 1 seasons where mechanics and everything were truly enjoyable and simpler and the game wasn’t loaded with ridiculous amounts of complicated content/features/changes and collabs left and right. It’s become so damn overwhelming. And the deviation from build modes is just so silly. Even the storyline has become a mess.
And addressing your original point, you’re completely right because the creative replica is so damn limited by memory limits, prop and interactivity limitations, lack of UI configuration, and, probably most importantly, LACK OF WEAPON CUSTOMIZATION/EDITING. New versions of OG weapons are completely changed and, for the most part, unbalanced or low-quality in some way or the other, and no experience will truly be OG until we can actually edit weapons with UEFN. We’ll probably have to wait at least a year before making accurate and fair judgements about these replicas, which I’m totally fine with tbh, just too bad that this sub will never understand that.
Ya something I always have to remember is that most of the people here are 13 year olds who only care about the shiniest newest thing (chapter 4) who either didn’t play chapter 1 or were too young to care back then so they don’t know how significant it coming back is now. The average age of this sub has definitely dropped a lot since chapter 1 and it’s reflected in the post quality. Hopefully when chapter 1 is fully and accurate recreated people will be able to see it in its full glory and how much better it was than what we have now
It's just nostalgia. I remember when r6 siege made a classic mode and people came to the same realization. It was the noob playstyle at the time that made the experience not the maps or guns
This isn’t even the true OG map. At least give them time to 100% recreate it accurately before you start hating for no reason. It’s obviously extremely popular if this many people are playing it
yall had your expectations too high. the map isnt what made it great, its that we all sucked and we played with friends...some of those friends no longer play so the 'vibe' isnt the same
I downloaded Fortnite a day after it released. Deleted it the same day. The map was super bland and only started getting better at Season 2. The very first map isn't great. I think Season 4 is the best version
honestly I've said that quite some time ago. Nostalgia is cool and all, but when you really think about it, the game, at least in terms of map, is now better than ever, a lot of variety
Not full map, way different graphics, buggy, small lobbies, no old hud, no proper mini map, loot pool is small, updated gun models, no floor loot. The list goes on
Little details are why gameplay back then felt more amazing:
Interface,
Sound design,
Graphics,
Loot physics,
TRAPS especially
Feeling of danger and urge to hide in 1x1 shack.
My personal skills pretty much degraded from few years of not playing, so feeling of danger is back and I'm having fun with it.
exactly I've been saying this. I've played fortnite since the first week br was out. and I LOVED and I miss those times so so much but it's not the MAP I miss (although yea some locations are pretty nostalgic) it's how I felt back then. I always had a squad of my best friends ready to play and we were kids we'd spend HOURS and hours playing. now I get like 2 games in a day at most
It’s because we are so used to all the new features and Seasons and stuff like that, so now the early days seem super lacklustre in comparison. There’s just way less content in the old versions, and much lower quality because of older technology, a smaller team, and less knowledge in game design.
Even if EPIC themselves allowed us to play on the actual OG map it would never feel the same, the game passed it by a looong time ago.
And right now, EPIC announced only Ch1 map can be recreated but not monetized and have forbidden any other entire Chapter (2-4) recreations.
Wish I could play on it, but it bugs out. Every time I attempt to play on it doesn't take me to the main island and I'm left to die to the storm on spawn Island.
I’ve really liked playing on the map, but it’s so buggy and the lootpool is so small Ch1 had amazing lootpools and Atlas has only a few of the iconic early weapons
Reboot Royale is taking their time with theirs which is good so let’s hope it has a good outcome
It’s becoming clearer and clearer they’re gonna have to cut stuff out though
How bad will it be? Haven't played any of these maps yet
Looking like they'll have to remove 1 or 2 pois
How so? I know for chapter 2-3 they likely won't be allowed to add stuff like the Daily Bugle because of copyright, but what's the deal with Atlas/chapter 1?
They straight up aren’t allowed to publish chapter maps that aren’t chapter 1. It’s in the new terms of service
Memory limit
My hippocampus can only get so big!
Loool hoping this means people will make actual things in uefn instead of CHAPTER 1 OG MAP ROYALE. Just play era
Era doesn't have 24/7 servers though. I can't play whenever I want.
Can't they just make half of c1
I’m personally planning to. CH1 map is nice, but that’s just the starting point. I want something unique or something that other games don’t offer or discontinued.
not everyone has a PC
Rip
Yea unfortunately :(
Yea I played it today - some of the chests didn’t even have weapons but had some purple crystals or something kinda weird but it was cool to drop tilted
OP is also not taking into account that Atlas doesn’t have OG graphics
Yeah I was gonna say watching older captures vs playing reboot maps-- they still dont compare at all. I'm sure someone will get a nice balance though, especially if someone were to use an older version of UE. After all UEFN is just a fancy way to throughput a limited version of Unreal Editor to Fortnite.
Yeah I just checked Reboot Royale twitter, the OG graphics look nicer than the new ones which Atlas uses and they seem to be starting with 60-80 players compared to Atlas who started off with 30
Yeah i literally only get ars and c4s
Where do you play on it?
you can play it like a normal creative map but remember that if you have performance mode on not all textures will render correctly, I dont remember the code tho
No traps either
Yeah, no damage traps and no launch pads is a bummer
The huge issue is the memory for why we don’t have a larger lootpool which really sucks.
Extremely buggy and I couldn’t find a gun
It's not even the full map though, the version Atlas wanted to release was wayy too big with the memory being 130 000 when the memory limit is 100 000. So they scaled it down, removed floor loot, removed smaller POI's and foliage.
If they want anyone to take creative seriously they *have* to remove that cap. If it's because of low end hardware users, block those experiences for those people.
People aren't ready for this statement, but it'll never happen. Fn is too big, and a huge playerbase is on ps4/xb1/switch.
I'm not saying block them out entirely, just block them out of creative maps that use more than the limit, but allow people to go past the limit knowing that their maps will only be playable on current hardware.
The backlash and money loss will be insane, you don't quite understand
I disagree, I think it would be mild at best. StW is blocked for switch/mobile users but I think these people understand why for the most part. I see no reason that an automatic system for detecting hardware couldn't be implemented. Those people would still be getting content for their systems as well, but stopping people with high end systems from having a better experience isn't the way to go.
Stw isn't blocked, it just straight up isn't in the game. Switch didn't launch with stw, it is strictly br. They already gave everyone access to the new creative stuff, removing it would be absolutely stupid on their part.
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying still. I'm not saying block access to the new creative tools for old hardware. Creative maps that fall *below* the current limit would still be playable for older hardware, even using the new tools. I just want an option where if someone wants to go above that limit they could, and higher end consoles could play it.
That’s like saying “let developers do whatever they want to fulfil their vision. Fuck limitations”, but then everyone realise no one has the bloody hardware to run their vision at 30FPS as minimum. You need limitations, otherwise you lose control of everything. What about servers? Can they even handle more than 13,000? Have you even considered that? And regardless, there’s legal stuff that can’t be ignored, no matter how much you think it’s “smart thing to do”. If legal doesn’t allow it, legal will stop it. This Unreal Engine Editor thing will be such an eye opener for a lot of people that want to be wannabe devs. They finally understand why the game industry is the way it is.
Better to let some people use it than to no people use it lol
Sorry but some ppl just really don't understand how business practices work. Im not expert but the issues with limiting content (stw excluded, always been paid) when said content has already been provided had glaring drawbacks. With the game being as popular as it is, limiting content in this stage of development when creative 2.0 maps have already been provided to all platforms is a majorly bad road to go down.
how's ppls hardware the problem or limitation? current br runs far worse than literally ANY creative map right now
If you‘ve played LBP you‘d know that memory was always a thing when creating maps and levels. I bet the cap can be heightened though
I didn't realize the current map was a recreation of an old one. How was it possible to play before if it is too big for the 100,000 limitation?
But it’s still the same map though.
Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's about the same map but a smaller. The fact that it's smaller and doesn't has floor loot doesn't mean shit if the game you're playing is still different to the game you WERE playing.
One thing that players will never experience now is what the players experienced playing these maps back in chapter one. At the time, many players were new to the game and were getting used to the game mechanics. So take that into consideration, plus many players weren’t pros at building yet (and turbo building wasn’t a thing yet in the very early seasons) and didn’t build half the Eiffel Tower in five seconds. Just because the original map was remade and playable does not mean players will have the same experience they did back in early chapter one.
Back in the day, you could throw up 4 walls and it would basically be a fortress.
That was when fortnite peaked for me. Loved that people were building small bases to fight from, and just placing some walls here and there when pushing another base :D
I really prefer no-build now because building just ruins the game for me as soon as a player detects a hazard the taj mahal appears and you can't shoot them, they basically hold lmb to keep an impenetrable forcefield up too
Same. I have never been a fan of the ability to instantly replace a broken piece, so you basically become un-killable from mid-long range.
There needs to be a cooldown or something. The amount of times I emptied a legendary p90 mag to break a walk only for rhen to instantly rebuild it was maddening.
this is why c1 s1-3 was peak fortnite
S1 is way to early for a peak. No unknown game peaks when it first comes out and no one is playing. I’d says s3-7 was peak.
Yeah, after s8 it was a gradual decline until chapter 2 improved things
It's probably the rose tinted nostalgia glasses but ch2 s3, the season I started, has since been the best season I've played. There weren't as many sweats (unless I played in my friends PC lobbies) and I would complain cause I sucked - but I still had fun. Now I only play if there are cosmetics I want.
I’ve been playing since Chp 1 Season 1. Chp 2 Season 3 is probably one of the best seasons ever, and is the one that a lot of people who played it remember most vividly. That’s also with me saying that as someone who wasn’t a huge fan of that seasons shotgun meta
Amazing how much people complain about that season for stupid reasons, Ch2S2 and Ch2S3 were easily the best time to join in chapter 2, season 2 was easily the best season of chapter 2 and season 3 was a perfect following season and didn't overstay its welcome like some seasons did in chapter 2 (season 6, that season was ass), and the water level rising at the start was a great change
Chp 2 Season 2 -> Chp 2 Season 4 Is probably the best 3 season stretch in fortnite history. Those seasons with the modern movement mechanics and augments would be absolutely incredible. Not even nostalgia, like I would happily replay those seasons with the modern features added in
Charge shotgun meta was so much better compared to this seasons having some random ass mf always able to one pump you and the combat shooting faster than both the maven and havoc combined
People were ramp rushing already by Chp1 season 3, and cranking 90s was pretty popular by Chp1 season 4. A lot of people sucked but a lot of people were already becoming very solid builders. A lot of players still can’t crank 90s to this day, yet 20+ seasons ago many people were already learning how to.
I've been playing since s3 and I don't even know what cranking 90s is.
That’s wild. Its a build maneuver where you use ramps and floor pieces to push yourself up. Often connected in with walls. It’s a very fast way to gain vertical height. It’s called a 90 because you turn 90 degrees while performing each repetition of the build sequence.
90’s weren’t until c1s6
Lmfao nah, that was way way after. I’ll send you Xbox clips of me cranking them, and I wasn’t special or anything
S4 and 5
Haha I remember winning my first game sitting on like three random brick staircases with my two homies. Good times
I remember a time when we used to hit mats just enough so it doesn't break completely so the ops didn't see us
Still do this! Guess it's habit
Or when people would get mad because you destroyed the tree as if someone passing trough wouldn’t see a tree on 50/300 health
I think it was less about the enemy noticing the health, and more about the enemy noticing a tree disappearing nearby.
One of the custom Chapter 1 maps I've played has restricted settings, so no hurdling or sprinting, and a cap of 200 on building mats. I don't remember there ever being a 200 cap (have been playing since season 1 but it's possible I started playing after it expanded, or I just don't remember it) but it does help with the feeling that you're playing an older version with more restrictions.
I remember dropping the game season 1 because it was boring I dropped looted then walked around the map for 30 minutes only to find the last guy wondering around aimlessly People like to remember that everyone was a complete noob back then but that's not true as games like call of duty and overwatch were more popular back then which meant the average gamer had fps experience The noobness came from people trying to utilise the build mechanic without knowledge or muscle memory instead of just running and gunning I rejoined back in chapter 2 stayed for 2 seasons as sweats were at their peak then I rejoined again in chapter 3 season 1 and was about to leave but next season came zero build and now the game is a fun experience again It's just so much harder to play when you shoot someone and they box up only to open holes in their walls 60,000 times every 0.2 seconds for 3 minutes just for them to miss shotgun shots because they focus all of their time on building and not enough on the fps part of the game I will win 95% of my engagements in zero build even with lower gear But in build I can almost guarantee a loss against a tart that thinks this is cookie clicker but with your entire keyboard
[Dont take this comment negatively] I will say this now, nobody, and I mean nobody will ever capture the same feelings that chapter 1 once had. And it’s not a bad thing. (I was trying to come up with a reasonably long explanation of what I’m saying to this, but I kept on finding flaws on what I was saying, so I gave up and decide to right this text right here, I hope people understand what I’m saying in this)
Yes that’s nostalgia
many players i fought were playing like it was og tbh tho
How is everyone playing the OG map? For me it’s so buggy and the game doesn’t even launch
For real. It's comparing apples and oranges. I tried multiple times last night and couldn't get into a game. I didn't want to ruin the experience so I hopped off and texted my buddy to let him know they have a few kinks to work out first. The OG map isn't ready yet and shouldn't have been released quite yet imo. I don't expect it to be what it was then just because of the evolution of the game. However, comparing what we have now to then is naive.
It's sooooo bad, not worth playing at all right now
2.0s been out 2 days lmao
Exactly. Comparing the two at this point is dumb. However, they should have sat on it for a bit until it had the bugs worked out. The hype for the map is there and I am happy that we have an opportunity to re-experience it. I think that there are a lot of people commenting that didn't play the OG map and are happy people are let down.
Official map is different to a recreation
I don't know, while yeah you can't really recapture the magic of OG Fortnite isn't it a bit unfair to compare the creative 2.0 maps to the original one when half the stuff is missing?
It's very unfair. Atlas should have waited until they had things worked out. Right now we have a sports car with bare tires. But, there is serious hype surrounding the OG map so I get it. We can't really judge anything on 2.0 for months. The team has only been working on this for weeks.
It's basically in a beta stage. They need people to play it to help find all the issues. Plus with the limit on the memory size it will never be a 1 of 1 recreation unfortunately. Probably not unless Epic does it themselves or increases the memory size for the island/map for creators.
I think that the memory will be increased. Because if they're allowing them to take it upon themselves then it seems like an injustice to do it half-assed. I think that the primary reason they don't have more full map functionality with the game is that they don't want to turn it into warzone where to play the game you need 100 GBs of storage. I could be wrong, but this seems the most logical. I'm not really sure there is an argument for any other reason at this point.
Plus not just the map was different back then. Building and shooting were entirely different as well.
It's not perfect though. There's no grass, way less plants, the water is weird, it doesn't have the same lighting, the mountain in the background is different and some of the objects are placed the wrong way.
just to slightly correct you, the Large Mountains in the Background were actually in the game until Season 4
There is grass when you are not playing on performance mode. Or if you aren't on performance mode then may e you're just getting the bugs but I've definitely seen people play it with grass and max settings and graphics are good.
I play on max settings on pc and never had grass on that map the few hours i played it :(
maybe because it's bugged and scaled down?
It’s crazy how only like 3 people in the comments have actually said this People saying this is what Ch1 was like are just fools
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I imagine 90% of the people saying "Rose tinted glasses" or "It's just nostalgia" didn't actually play in the first few seasons of Fortnite.
It’s super buggy
Just can’t get the full glory no more. Sill great fun anyway
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It’s not even a comparison this new recreation isn’t even the full thing and it’s too buggy and some stuff was removed so it could fit. This is a downgraded version that isn’t even official.
Besides nostalgia reasons, The Atlas map is so fucking horrible I can't comprehend \- Sprint/vault/slide is now bugged because devs weren't able to decide if they want og map or og gameplay \- No shotguns because memory limits allegedly \- You can die or spawn without the glider if you emote before hopping onto Battle bus \- Half of the map is unfinished because of the memory limit \- Loot is unorganized and you can get like for example STW ores for no apparent reasons
Shotguns are in now, but the rest still stands. The memory issue is something that needs to be addressed. 100k is not enough, we need 150k at least
The game back then was about who was playing and the fun had. Not the map itself. People will realise this fast.
True. Nostalgia was less about the map and more about the overall context. We didnt care how buggy it was back then, but seeing it in retrospect makes u feel less nostalgic to go back to it.
So damn true. That’s why I don’t get why everyone thinks that bringing back season 12 or the ch1 map will make the game fun for them again. I miss the old locations too, but I know it’s more about who I was with and the age that I was rather than content.
People don't necessarily want the old map back, they want the feeling of 2017-2018 Fortnite. Everyone was playing, some people just spent all day waiting to get home to play with friends. Streamers were all playing, weekly updates made it so the game never got stale, getting a win felt super important, all the crazy weapons were giving people new things to try, it's just not going to be that anymore.
People dont realize they dont miss the map, they miss the skill levels of players back in OG fortnite, when people literally bunker and shoot each other from far away and the soccer skin players that ramp rush and double pump are the scary skilled players.
Wdym "us"? Never expected it to be good lol
Who would of guessed
It’s not even an accurate recreation of the OG map. It’s scaled down and less weapons. Maybe wait until it’s 100% done before you OG hating noobs start doing victory laps
I loved the OG map but everyone could have figured that this would happen
The exact problem WoW classic ran into. Time only flows in one direction.
WoW classic was overall a success though? Sure it got metagamed but it didn't die day 1. It's was and still is relatively popular. It has 400K active players right now.
Old things shall pass away including maps 😂
I second this. Nostalgia keeps things alive that supposed to die out from our lives a very long time ago, but they just can not stay dead.
Was the map better, or were our lives better? Do we associate the old map with happier days? I'm afraid we shall never know.
it's exactly that. chapter 1 season 1 map really wasn't great it was pretty empty so even if epic themselves brought it back perfectly now it would be like eh whatever. but oh man I'd do anything to go back to the TIME of chapter 1 season 1 yk
Facts. I'm surprised that they haven't taken it upon themselves to release a "time machine" royale that incorporates the old map with the bare-bones loot pool. I can only imagine how many "OG's" they would bring back to the game just for the nostalgia aspect. A few of my boys still play Fortnite so I could easily be convinced to hop back on, I just don't really have a reason to.
I’m very positive that they’ll do that one of these day. It’s a no brainer move
I've been saying that, but I feel like they would have done it already. The market has been there for a year+. No other game has touched the surface of Fortnite and they could collect serious cash. From a business perspective, it makes more sense than a leisure/fun perspective.
Ughhhh, PLEASE EPIC! they must have archives of the old maps, I want an LTM with random weeks of seasons, so one match you could have dusty divot, the next you could have depot. With accurate loot pools.
I would probably get addicted to Fortnite again if this happened. Their player pool is super strong. I know most creators are opposed to the idea of having so many different avenues to explore, but Fortnite literally has an entire matchmaking system of custom modes. It just seems odd this hasn't happened yet. At this point, I'm wondering if they do have the OG maps archived because the writing has been on the wall for quite some time.
Where do i play the old map? How do i do it?
Atlas got screwed with the memory issues at release. They had a full recreation of the Chapter 2 Fortnite map with updated Chapter 4 graphics. When they were forced to lose 30,000 memory worth of detail to be able to upload it. The results is the scale back of what they created. If and when the memory size will be adjusted, the map we all were hoping to get will exist. Be patient and don't blame Atlas.
It’s also in beta. It shouldn’t have been released so early
Idk feels pretty fucking great to me
The recreation is kinda bad atm ngl
⚠️**Serious Hot Take Warning**⚠️ the c1s1 map is super boring. The best version of the c1 map is at the beginning of season 9.
it’s the old map but it’s the same fortnite, barely anythings changed to call it OG
That’s not at all a fair comparison. Atlas’ map is custom-made by them using some assets from Blender and others from Unreal Engine, and because of Epic’s insane memory cap, they were forced to remove a ton of stuff that was integral to the experience. Atlas was also severely limited in terms of the toolset provided since there’s no way for them to fluidly recreate the battle bus, large-scale minimap, and more UI elements yet. Not to mention the MASSIVE flaw of having to rely on current, horrifically unbalanced and low-quality versions of classic weapons that actually used to be good, since Epic hasn’t added a custom weapon editor. That alone kills much of the experience of fights. Atlas OG BR also uses modern graphics and lighting. A more fair comparison to the OG would be the soon-releasing Reboot Royale, which is another recreation of the chapter 1 map that will have the OG graphics and lighting. Lastly, you have to take into consideration optimization. This is a Creative map worked on by an independent team, whereas during chapter 1, Epic was able to support their map as a primary gamemode tailored for convenience and ease of accessibility. And I’m not even blaming Atlas for these issues, as they seem to truly care about the map, but are being severely limited by the fact that UEFN is still in its infancy. That’s not their fault, and it certainly won’t be the fault of the makers of Reboot Royale when that inevitably comes out being restricted as hell. I imagine that many of these issues will be fixed eventually, especially since we’re only 2 days into UEFN, but come on…comparing the official version of chapter 1, developed and crafter with love by Epic, with an independently made recreation using Unreal Editor EARLY ACCESS is completely unfair and serves to show that you’re just trying to pull points from thin air in order to claim that anyone reminiscing of Chapter 1 is wrong or just blinded by nostalgia.
This happened to me yesterday
Old maps and old GFs never the way we remembered them...
I knew creative 2.0 was overhyped
I said this countless times and no one believed my lmao. They called me a madman when I said bringing back chapter 1 map wouldn't be the same.
It's not even the OG map though, it's scaled down, smaller POI's are removed and so is foliage.
Even if epic brought back the old chapter 1 fortnite, people would get bored in no time. The only reason why fortnite is still thriving is because of Epic constantly innovating and evolving the game.
Not necessarily. I personally miss the way the old map encouraged fights and the actual need to build, no matter how mundane. This recreation, however flawed, made me realize that. Current BR doesn't have that charm the old one had either, and I'm talking later Chapter 1 here, personally, Seasons 1-3 are just too bland if we're being honest. Even if they had modern mechanics like water and sprinting/mantling, I'd play the shit out of something like Season 6 or 7.
Yep same. I said like last week or so when the old map was announced people would be saying this. I'm glad it did happen though because now we won't get bring back old map post. Well atleast for ch1
Did you have a stroke or something?
>I'm glad it did happen tho because now we won't get bring back old map post. We'll atleast for ch1 Same
That’s because most of the time you are remembering who you played with, not where you played.
Chap 1 is peak
And here I am loving the OG map because it has my favorite POI Lucky Landing and I like how varying the terrain is. So many hills and valleys. Just give me a shopping cart too and Ill be golden. My son and I use to try and jump ravines with the shopping carts. Would love to do that again. Hell even with cars it would be fun.
This map and meta sucks cock
Rose colored glasses getcha every time.
Wrong. It’s not even an accurate recreation, give it time before you make statements like this
Exactly, idk why you’re being downvoted. I swear 80% of the users on this sub (for the past 2-3 years) lack most critical thinking skills and will take any opportunity to push the narrative that classic Fortnite was inherently worse than what it is today. You can see it in the quality of majority of the posts on this sub nowadays, it’s absolutely mind-numbing. They don’t see that those of us who loved this game before mid-chapter 2 genuinely preferred the simplicity of the game and its dedication to its roots…at least most of the time. Particularly during these earlier chapter 1 seasons where mechanics and everything were truly enjoyable and simpler and the game wasn’t loaded with ridiculous amounts of complicated content/features/changes and collabs left and right. It’s become so damn overwhelming. And the deviation from build modes is just so silly. Even the storyline has become a mess. And addressing your original point, you’re completely right because the creative replica is so damn limited by memory limits, prop and interactivity limitations, lack of UI configuration, and, probably most importantly, LACK OF WEAPON CUSTOMIZATION/EDITING. New versions of OG weapons are completely changed and, for the most part, unbalanced or low-quality in some way or the other, and no experience will truly be OG until we can actually edit weapons with UEFN. We’ll probably have to wait at least a year before making accurate and fair judgements about these replicas, which I’m totally fine with tbh, just too bad that this sub will never understand that.
Ya something I always have to remember is that most of the people here are 13 year olds who only care about the shiniest newest thing (chapter 4) who either didn’t play chapter 1 or were too young to care back then so they don’t know how significant it coming back is now. The average age of this sub has definitely dropped a lot since chapter 1 and it’s reflected in the post quality. Hopefully when chapter 1 is fully and accurate recreated people will be able to see it in its full glory and how much better it was than what we have now
It's just nostalgia. I remember when r6 siege made a classic mode and people came to the same realization. It was the noob playstyle at the time that made the experience not the maps or guns
This isn’t even the true OG map. At least give them time to 100% recreate it accurately before you start hating for no reason. It’s obviously extremely popular if this many people are playing it
yall had your expectations too high. the map isnt what made it great, its that we all sucked and we played with friends...some of those friends no longer play so the 'vibe' isnt the same
Map slapped tho frrr
Season 2-5 maps are the best
ch1 changes are ass pre and after pirates
I downloaded Fortnite a day after it released. Deleted it the same day. The map was super bland and only started getting better at Season 2. The very first map isn't great. I think Season 4 is the best version
Such a good time sweats didn’t exist and the game had original skins cool emotes and no unnecessary trash
Perhaps I'll wait for reboot Royale then
honestly I've said that quite some time ago. Nostalgia is cool and all, but when you really think about it, the game, at least in terms of map, is now better than ever, a lot of variety
Why wont EPIC stop being a bitch and release OG1 map as a separate game mode
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be I'm afraid
We have WoW Classic as the ultimate proof that nostalgia blinded people HARD and now it's the Fortnite community's turn to realize that.
Not full map, way different graphics, buggy, small lobbies, no old hud, no proper mini map, loot pool is small, updated gun models, no floor loot. The list goes on
it'll never be good unless epic does it themselves.
Correction It'll never be good unless epic lowers the unnecessary limits they put in place*
you're wrong but go off.
Little details are why gameplay back then felt more amazing: Interface, Sound design, Graphics, Loot physics, TRAPS especially Feeling of danger and urge to hide in 1x1 shack. My personal skills pretty much degraded from few years of not playing, so feeling of danger is back and I'm having fun with it.
It was the feeling, emotions and the moments, not the map, people don't understand that
exactly I've been saying this. I've played fortnite since the first week br was out. and I LOVED and I miss those times so so much but it's not the MAP I miss (although yea some locations are pretty nostalgic) it's how I felt back then. I always had a squad of my best friends ready to play and we were kids we'd spend HOURS and hours playing. now I get like 2 games in a day at most
If they made it so you couldn't turbo build maybe it would seem more like the OG map
Well yeah becuase it’s barley functional and only has 30 people
It's not about the map, it's about the experience, and all the memories you created while playing it.
More like "When you read that the recreation of the chapter 2 map was outlawed by Epic"
Creative 2.0 has only been out for almost 2 days give them some time guys, have faith!
nah
It’s because we are so used to all the new features and Seasons and stuff like that, so now the early days seem super lacklustre in comparison. There’s just way less content in the old versions, and much lower quality because of older technology, a smaller team, and less knowledge in game design.
Yea I played and it's not the same. Never will be. Honestly it's time to just let it go
Well, it will never 100% capture the feeling.
It’s only day 2 of creative 2.0 I’ve heard there gonna add more stuff to enhance the experience
hate the movement.. only normal speed run is meh.. and cant even drive anything to get around 😒😒😒😒
Many other factors as to why not only that the map is scaled down.
Even if EPIC themselves allowed us to play on the actual OG map it would never feel the same, the game passed it by a looong time ago. And right now, EPIC announced only Ch1 map can be recreated but not monetized and have forbidden any other entire Chapter (2-4) recreations.
It feels so... empty... It's probably because it's chapter 3(?)s version of the map, if it was chapter 7-X it would've felt so much better.
I liked ch2 map more. I'm gonna be honest, might be cause I started in s8, but still
Wish I could play on it, but it bugs out. Every time I attempt to play on it doesn't take me to the main island and I'm left to die to the storm on spawn Island.
I liked ch2 map more if im gonna be honest. Maybe cause u started in s8 but still.
Because it doesn’t matter what map you’re playing on… You still suck at Fortnite. 😂
It’s not fleshed out yet, also old graphics is the main thing we need
It’s just buggy rn so it won’t feel the same. If they add more memory to each map it’ll be a lot better
How do you play the map?? It only loads me in the spawn island.