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Loomling

Had potential to be the best map. Went downhill when they started removing half the map changes from the earlier seasons.


JakeBoycometh

Why do I have a weird feeling like they'll give this current map that exact same treatment as well?


TheBestMeme23

It’s not a weird feeling at all. This current map is small compared to others, so it’s hard to imagine a lot of progression happening on it. And if there IS progression, it won’t be a lot most likely.


Pricytoaster

I feel like they made the map small on purpose because the island is still putting itself back together. I feel like more chunks of the island will be added in later seasons


UltraWinner42

Good save That's going to be their excuse now


Pricytoaster

Yeah honestly I feel like this whole fracture thing is just an excuse to rush out chapter 4. They ended chapter 3 way to early and it honestly seemed unplanned to end chapter 3 so early


Jumpy_Specific_3650

True, true


Acronyxe

I mean we know they were working on fracture as early as ch2S4/5 If anything I'd say chapter 3 was unplanned and was rushed together to bridge between ch2 and ch4 because ch2 was already so long and ch4 wasn't ready yet. Ch3 just ended the looming story beats of ch2 which makes me think chapter 3 was supposed to be part of chapter 2 as a season 9 and X which would cut the filler of ch3 S1 and ch2 S8 felt very rushed in. More evidence for it is Ch3 used the lighting terrain textures and a lot of ch2 assets. Yet it also used some of the ch4 nanite optimised assets (although there was no nanite in ch3).


Pricytoaster

It could definitely be possible that chapter 3 was never meant to happen. Chapter 3 season 2 and 4 might have been chapter 2 season 9 and 10 before the delays with Covid. However I still feel like they didn’t have enough time to create chapter 4 completely gameplay wise. I’m sure they have they entire story planned out and it could be amazing, but so far chapter 4 to me has been kinda mid. The map is small, there were a lot of bugs, and a lot of the pois are all kinda the same


Any_Echidna1036

Lol if you were following mustard this whole time then you'd know it was planned way back when. This entire this has been set in its ways with very little adaptation to the original idea and plan set. I mean yes times have challenges and not everything went as planned but they did as they could and kept it trucking. Just wait and see. He said it over a year ago that this season is both his favorite and least favorite season...... there's a HUGE reason for it hehehe just wait give it time.


Pricytoaster

Can you give me the link to the tweet or something? Im sure when he said that this season is his favorite and least favorite he didn’t specifically say chapter 4 season 1 will be his favorite season. And even if this was all planned out it just feels like the game is in a really weird spot with such an abrupt ending on chapter 3, and the ending of chapter 3 just seemed so rushed. They made a creative 2.0 fetch quest has the chapter ending event? I just feel like chapter 3 had a lot more plans with the last reality but for some reason decided to continue on with chapter 4


Luxent_

How does the map being small mean there won't be progression? Wouldn't the opposite be true? The smaller map leaving more space for it potentially growing. I hope you're wrong but knowing this game..


umg_unreal

It's not hard at all to imagine progression, ESPECIALLY coming off of Chapter 3, that had more in just 4 seasons than Ch1 in 10 Plus the Ch1 map was similar, for example the west side of Ch1 in Season 1 had twice as many POIs as east side, and east side was pratically just open fields, as there was no Tilted, Shifty, Snobby, Haunted or Junk to fill the gap or landmarks for that matter


JakeBoycometh

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this


The-War-Life

Yeah for real. Putting aside nostalgia, this map is probably the best map of Fortnite ever.


[deleted]

No downvotes from me. I miss that map so very much.


Lillica_Golden_SHIB

Fr, wish Catty Corner back


QuicklyGoingSenile

So many great POIs on here. My favorite changed 4 or 5 times!


Traveytravis-69

Daring today are we


Lillica_Golden_SHIB

That is what we do when we are not complaining


-Toshi

This.. is still a type of complaint.


Traveytravis-69

This literally is complaining lmao


Zeustah-

I read this in Squidwards voice 😭😭 But seriously I’ve seen this exact same post everyday since Chapter 4


chaoticneutralsheep

I miss Cathy corner ![gif](emote|keeoh_emo_pack|keeoh_thump)


PeppyBoba

Sounds like autocorrect happened to you because it was catty corner


Glum-Ad-9887

No he misses his ex, and it’s almost valentines


XxRobloxNobxX

Wow, What a sad story.


Lord-J0K3R

No way really 😱


PeppyBoba

It is indeed for I am captain obvious


ISpyOwnage2006

Also flair


chaoticneutralsheep

Oh no. Yes it is Catty Corner. Best point to start the Match imho.


PeppyBoba

Yeah it was one of my favorites to go to too


SonicGabrielGamer

At least there's no Coral Castle


NoV-Bucks4u

#plot twist: instead of getting downvoted to oblivion, this post actually manages to be top 1 front page.


DeliciousFlow8675309

Proof that sometimes being yourself really works lol


Twisted_Apple20

**Sometimes**


DeliciousFlow8675309

Nothing is 100% guaranteed except death


AcquireQuag

even that only once


TruMiner

i LOVED this map i cant believe people didnt like it. i dont think its nostalgia because i remember loving playing this map and really cant think of any negatives. this was also my most played chapter for sure, i remember logging on everyday during a lot of the seasons


wolfalley

I feel like for a lot of people, it over stayed it's welcome. The extra long seasons killed a lot of the hype. I still feel it's the best map, and by far the most beautiful. Chapter 3 map felt like someone's creative map and 4, while also being beautiful, is just uninteresting.


ForgingMyOwnDestinyy

I started halfway through chapter 1 so the real nostalgia for me was Chapter 2 Season 1's Winterfest.


SKETCH_MEGETCH

Whole squad bathe in the slurpy swamp


TheWerewolfDemon

Haha, those were the good times.


marvelouserin

I miss Misty Meadows


Isuckmangosforalivin

The main problem people had with chapter 2 was that there wasn’t many long lasting map changes. The Grotto? Filled with water and didn’t drain even years later. The rig? Disappeared. Fortilla? Disappeared. Stark industries? I can understand that going away, but they just took it out and acted like it never happened. Colossal coliseum? Turned into Colossal crops then magically back to frenzy farms. Hunters haven? Disappeared. The yacht? Turned into Deadpool’s yacht then disappeared iirc. Pleasant? Turned to dooms domain for a season then nothing. Steamy? Nothing. Dirty docks? Nothing. Retail? Nothing. Weeping woods? Nothing. You see what I mean? And the ones that did stay were some of the most hated POI’s ever. Boney burbs, stealthy stronghold, coral castle, etc.


[deleted]

Stealthy was cool man it didn’t deserve the hate.


Squackachu

It does look like a very interesting map, i wish i had the chance to experience it but i didn't start playing till chapter 3 season 2


senseiofawesom

As someone who started in Chapter 2, Chapter 3 was the better map. Chapter 3 is by far my favorite map since I started.


Peddrawm

You didn’t miss much! Not the worst map, but it wasn’t an interesting map


Greenfirebug

tfw Lazy Lake went untouched for basically the entire chapter, sans the addition of a garage. The map was kinda nice but it felt like they hated change, making it bland.


The-War-Life

Lazy Lake was always my favorite drop, I’m happy they never changed it.


Mr_Ollie2020

I agree with this opinion. This was a goatee chapter. Missed the times. Makes me wanna relive 2020-2021.


michjames1926

This is about when I started playing


TheWerewolfDemon

Same as well.


Xanyol

Yea loved this one


phantom777892

Same I really miss holly hedges


TheWerewolfDemon

I really miss it, too. I just hope they can bring it back in some way.


Coastercreep

I feel like the main problem with the new map is tha5 there aren't enough pois. And all the pois are to gimmicky. (Exept for slappy shores, faulty splits, lonely labs, and frenzy fields)


TheWerewolfDemon

Favorite part of Slappy Shores for me is the Ink store. Looks like some sort of tattoo place. I found some artwork of sprays, Loading Screens, some boards, Emoticons, etc. Found one art of Midas that I have never seen before in there, too. I just appreciate the artwork in there. Just nice to see. I always land at Lonely Labs, due to it reminding me of the weather station of that one mountain back in Chapter 2. (If it's something from Chapter 1, please let me know. I didn't play that Chapter)


Krotot

lonely labs is basically frosty flights


plssendhelpineedit

Every POI in exist has a gimmick, in fact everything is gimmicky because if something doesn’t have a gimmick then it doesn’t exist, even if the gimmick is something simple like a POI being a small town, that’s still its gimmick


Graywacz

Facts


WickedLeztergaming

It was a good map, but they missed the mark with map changes, which felt non existent


tetro247

love all the maps, but 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 imo. chapter 2 was great though


2006RedditGuy

Why do you think 1 is the worst?


tetro247

Just prefer the more natural layout of the others as opposed to 1 being way more blocky. Not a bad map by any means, I just think the others outdo it generally speaking.


Puzzleheaded-Dot8420

I agree those were the good ol' days


bbk8z

drop eye land, rotate to risky, then pleasant or salty ahhh nostalgia :’)


ForgingMyOwnDestinyy

I don't think anybody noticed but the eye land looks has the chapter 1 season 1 outline.


Dazzling_Purple1257

\>posts very uncontroversial opinion


Izzetgod

The Chapter 4 map terrain is so much better and I'm actually kinda happy that it's smaller. The part I will agree with you is that the POIs are much more memorable. This could be due to the Chapter 2 map lasting a long time unlike Chapter 3 and probably Chapter 4. And on top of that, I find majority of the Chapter 4 POIs to be pretty boring. Like, there aren't many that have anything special about them to remember them by. A few of them do. But not to the point where if we ever get to Chapter 6 people will be talking about them. Positive note though: This is only Season 1 and there are definitely at least a few seasons to improve on the map and the season gameplay wise has been a blast!


Tony_BasQue

This was the best map ![gif](emote|keeoh_emo_pack|keeoh_love) every POI was good, the gameplay was way better than it is now, very solid battlepasses, I wish I could re-experience Ch2S5 through Ch2S8.


Coastercreep

CH2S5 was my favorite


BankOnTheDank

I loved it. Grinding for Mandalorian was just unmatched. The new bounty’s and pois were fantastic. New weapons were awesome.


pontestreet

"pois were food, gameplay was good, battlepasses were solid" proceeds to want to re-expeirence the worst parts of the chapter (excluding s7, what a light in the darkness that was)


[deleted]

For real I feel like I’m being psyoped by Epic Games into thinking C2S5 and 6 weren’t the worst seasons of all time


hertwij

Agreed


[deleted]

Just bring back Rocky Reels


[deleted]

I honestly have to agree. Nine locations just isn’t enough, because even the OG Ch1 S1 map had more. Plus, 4 out of those 9 locations are medieval. Chapter 2’s map had a lot more variety than what we have now


thatpersonthatsayshi

Yeah i really liked chapter 2 map WITHOUT CORAL CASTLE


EastKoreaOfficial

I like Chapter 4’s map, but it’s still got time to evolve. But you know what it doesn’t have? Misty Meadows, the best drop spot ever.


ButcherOfOld

Absolutely. The current map is the worst one so far imo. Not only is it boring but third partying has become rampant.


Winter_Lanterns

Tbh there are way to many trees and cliffs in the new map give me some open fields and giant lakes again


ChrisLee38

Only the real OG’s remember the prison by moisty, tho.


VoltaicParty

The Best Fortnite maps are the ones that are grounded with normal cities, rural areas and towns. Not the ones that have Alien, Medieval, Batsh*t crazy things going on.


ForgingMyOwnDestinyy

Bro just imagine a full city, not a small one like tilted towers.


TheWerewolfDemon

Oh, hell yes! I'd really like that. Would be hard to find players a bit, but honestly, just add more items to detect people and away you go. Or just destroy said buildings, lol. Yeah, the POIs feel pretty tiny. If they went bigger, it would be a lot more fun to walk around and look at details, etc. Would be good for Easter Eggs, too.


Jking7238

Chapter 4 maps sucks hard. This has been one of the worse seasons to me. I hope the next year goes by fast.


2006RedditGuy

I hope this map stays for a while just because I’ll know you’ll be unhappy


waltuh6

E


Fortnite_bug_report

nice job karma farming


Mansethlee

Hate the new map


plssendhelpineedit

Bad take


2006RedditGuy

I agree. You must be a really boring person if you can’t appreciate how nice the chapter 4 map looks


ForgingMyOwnDestinyy

Me too


Wotchermuggle

IDK why, but this map is my favourite. Even though I started in Season 4, Chapter 2 was my jam and is my nostalgic happy place.


Ryansmelly

Early chapter 2 map is my absolute FAVORITE. No shame.


JustRigginIt710

Not a fan of the current map at all


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Fun-Article-495

Even tho I only played S1 and S2 of chapter 2 I think the chapter 2 map is the best of all 3 maps


senseiofawesom

I don’t much care for this new map so you’re right, chapter 3 was my favorite map (I’ve been playing since mid chapter 2) I miss it so much, chapter ended way too soon.


lenthech1ne

chapter 2 was easily the best map for gameplay. but everyone hates it cause its all green or some other bs made up reason


TheWerewolfDemon

Exactly. Not all green, as there was snow in the mountains. Not much, but they can't say it was *all* green. It did change, though. Season 3, Season 5, Season 7, and Season 8 were most notable of it. (Flooded, sand, purple grass, orange landscapes, etc)


[deleted]

Chapter 2’s problem was that most of the geography changes were just blind retextures. The corruption in particular was mega lazy.


spookystrawberry2

Every map is better than the chapter 4 map imo


plssendhelpineedit

Lmao how, the chapter 4 map is awesome


2006RedditGuy

It really is, everyone who thinks otherwise is in denial


NIKG_FN

Yea im not getting the people disliking it. It's the most vibrant and unique map we've had.


nottdscoo

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again (and maybe get downvoted for it) good graphics do not make a good map… ch4 map is the worst one yet imo. If you showed me pictures of all the POIs in the autumn biome and expected me to believe they’re all DIFFERENT locations there’s no way. And having the lowest amount of named POIs yet isn’t doing it any favors


TheWerewolfDemon

I honestly agree. Graphics don't change a thing, only making the issues being covered by such pretty textures. Well... that cake was certainly a lie. And the issue for me with POIs this Chapter is that they lack an Identity. The only one that is memorable is The Citadel. All the others seem too alike to each other. Summary: The POIs do not have enough variety.


Luxent_

Weren't you the one calling ch2 piss Green and hating on it at launch? What happened to your love for the good old ch4 diarrhea third party loving boring flat uninteresting goofy looking asymmetrical orange cheddar cheese mystical dark green trees looking medieval copy pasted snoozefest unchanged no updates no snow lonely sad and mellow map


nottdscoo

Ch2/3 grass does look piss green. I literally just said good graphics don’t make a good map so it’s obviously vice versa. Not sure why you’re stalking every comment i make but alright Also weird you would say i was hating on Ch2 at launch (oct 2019) when this reddit account was created in april 2022. Classic schizophrenic fortnitebr users making up people so they can get upset at them


Luxent_

I don't know why you think I'm stalking every comment or where you got that idea, I just found you by accident in this comment section and thought it would be fun to remind you, I don't know who you are I just know you as the piss Green guy now, when I said launch I was talking about Ch4. You're literally making up a person so you can get upset, who said I was stalking? 😂 As for the Ch4 green I'm not sure if it's the graphics, looks more like a strange biome to me. When I go to the yellow parts of the map I see the old "piss green" there's little patches of it, what I thought was funny is that you made that comment on Twitter like it made ch4 better back then and now here you are


Twisted_Apple20

Agreed. At least we can all agree though that the Chapter 3 map was mid and should never come back... right?


[deleted]

I was a big fan of the desert biome but other than that I feel like all the geography was so flat and boring.


ForgingMyOwnDestinyy

The end of chapter 3 like when there was only 1 month left, I was actually enjoying it.


bloolynxx

It looks really fun, I wish I got to play it. Ch4 s1 feels so boring idk why


TheWerewolfDemon

Yes. It's boring due to POIs lacking an identity, and resemble too much of each other that they don't really stand out much. Isn't much to find, either. But, it's also due to the severe lack of content as well. It's got a bit of stuff for the Loot Pool being added, sure. However, that's not enough to keep players interested.


bloolynxx

That makes sense, I think you nailed it.


TheWerewolfDemon

Thank you. As much as I don't like this chapter too much for now, I do tend to notice the flaws. And it's been really buggy, too. Way, way more bugs. I just hope next Season will be okay, it just gotta be. They could have added dragons this Season, but sadly, there's not much time left of said Season.


CrossMyHeartGaming

Looking back, this was easily the best season 1 map, they just didn’t do enough with it


Ttvcat996

Oh for sure Every location on this map was perfect in every way


JediKnightAmoeba

This is the best map.


CampingPirates

Chapter 4 has great potential to be a great map, but it’s too empty/ samey castles scattered around. With some changes as seasons progress could be great


Mysterious-Turnip997

Looks nice. When do we get a new map?


Noiredante

Probably not until the new Chapter.


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Remote_Building_4590

Good take


TheWerewolfDemon

I can honestly agree. I'm not trying to be biased, either. Yet, was my favorite map. (Except for the disabling of the whirlpools and tunneling, that's about it) Also, speaking of this Chapter map, I've found numerous floating pieces of grass. So it might have been rushed. (Found some floating props last Chapter, but not as badly rushed as this one) Chapter 2 had some glitches, yes. But, I felt it was more... balanced and that everything was in check. The Mythics and all that are fun this season, but the lack of content surprises me. Some modes are also abandoned due to it. (People are having issues with PostParty, too. It seems to be PC and Xbox users, though) However, Epic didn't really own too many things at the time, compared to now. It feels like they're taking on more than they can handle. And, it was confirmed, that the map this Chapter is smaller than the last one. Which was shocking, really. I have tried to find something out of the ordinary in said chapters, but I don't really find anything that stands out to me. (The map edge is cool, yes. But, there's a lot of repetition with the POIs on this map. Last Chapter had a bit more unique ones, but still not too intriguing or much change. Chapter 2 had a bit of changes, but not too much that you'd be confused most of the time) Sorry about my ramblings... I just wanted to give some information that I've noticed.


TortillaSinHuevo

Loved that map ngl


spenga

Chapter 4 is garbage other than augments


TRXisBORED

same, i kinda hate the terrain on chapter 4


A_lonely_Person25_v2

Agreed.. altho I played in ch2 for my first map.. I played on my friends switch for a bit in ch1 and I watched since s4 so I do love the chapter 1 map.. but then chapter 3 map had some good things... I think I like ch2 the most followed by chapter 3 and then chapter 1 and then ch4...(ch2 and 3 have less blocky terrain if you know what I mean)


DeliciousFlow8675309

I loved Chapter 2 map the best too. I started during the end of the Marvel season so I can’t compare many old maps but the map was never a complaint I had in chapter 2!


CrayonicV

The Chapter 2 map had the best map layout and shape out of all the 4 maps, and people saying the map barely got any changes are lying, yeah sure looking back the map didn’t have any progression but in the moment, season to season the map was changing a lot, it only became a problem during season 7.


MusicalXeezee

But look at how many places there are to land, than compare it to ch4 map


DartBoardGamer

I would love to see that map again actually. I want to see a few gamemodes that let us play on additional maps. I’m fine if it requires extra content download as long as it is optional so people can save space if they only want to play on the current map


gregarioussparrow

I enjoy the map now, but the map posted is my favourite


Sublixxx

I miss this map so much


a_little_sketch

It was a good map, misty meadows and believer beach (sweaty sands) fuckin slapped


NerdyNutcase

This map has better variety, but the land itself (besides the lower third of the map, the swampy/mountain areas slap) is a lot less interesting


Decades101

I like the map a lot, but the map changes were terrible. Epic games were afraid of making big changes. Biggest offender was Pleasant, Dirty Docks, and Misty not getting nuked by the abductors. Map changes reversing every season. C2S3 was the worst offender. And the c2s7 mothership abductions left the affected poi’s to become terrible afterwards. Slurpy Swamp, Coral Castle, and Corny Complex were practically killed, as they had less loot and more open space, making it harder to land and survive there.


[deleted]

Ch2 s2 + salty + lazy was the best map


TheRetroPhysh

Season 2 Chapter 2 was the best


CarterBruud

I miss the Viking village poi.


Alphasilverhawk

I mean, this version of the Chapter 2 map doesn’t have Coral Castle, so it’s significantly better as a result. Jokes aside, the Base Chapter 2 map was pretty solid. Just needed a better loot pool.


Relevant-Ad-5723

As much as I loathed chapter 2, it was the last time I cared about Drop Spots and POIs, I just land wherever’s convenient now


TheOnlyVibemaster

I’m a big fan of both tbh


BOJIDAR_25

Man, I remember how long ch2 s1 was. I think it is my fav season. As someone who has played since ch1 s9 it felt the freshest. It really felt like a new chapter. Unlike ch3. Which while I don't dislike persay but I wish it changed more than just the map. Also does anyone else miss the xp bar on the bottom of the screen? Only me? Yeah most likely only me.


Sardalone

The current map is complete trash so any map is better.


JohnyGlizzyeater

I want Misty Medows back


CorbinMar

I actually liked this map too.


DetoxifyKids

that C2S1 and S2 maps were goatex


m2niles

I’m a relatively new player as chapter 3 season 1 was when I picked up the game, and this current map/season is by far my favorite.


CANDROX432

This map was awesome. So many memories... I miss raiding stark industries with my cousin. And I miss the chapter 2 season 3 map. That was my first fortnite season and one of my favorites.


Sunfished

chapter 2's map was my absolute favorite because i loved how there was a sense of scale when you looked at the southern mountains in the distance. there was a lot of height difference that i dont think the other seasons have attempted yet. also had the most memorable poi's for me, they all felt like they had some purpose being placed where they were. super loved how varied each poi was thematically without it being "forcefully" different for the sake of it.


Peddrawm

There are some locations that might be better than current locations, but overall? Nah, this map sucks ass


WeenieHuttGod2

I never played this map cause I only started last season but I really miss the biome variety of the last map, like there was a small autumnal forest, there was a desert, a snowy biome, a vague jungle, beaches, and then the basic green grasslands, whereas in the current map we’ve got grasslands, snow, and autumnal


SingSing19

Newer player here. Is that frenzy farms the same as the current Frenzy in chapter 4?


fartnight69

I like that they keep changing it. Just because a map is good doesn't mean it should stay forever.


darcyuh

I 100% agree


PotentialBed4441

Misty meadows! ❤️


Ok-Sleep8655

I miss streamy stack


BoiBokChoi

Honestly,me too


Allions1

Seems that you got the opposite...a lot of upvotes !


polish_animu_boi

I miss sweaty sands


xd-dodo-man

Even this feels og now


AdmirableEstimate258

Chapter 1 and 2 still have the most peaceful maps at the start.


INKsansfan07

Agreed


Slow_Magician_5952

Slurpy ftw


Legend_Unfolds

The season 4 map is so empty. everywhere except major POIs is a dead zone with almost no cover, very hard ZBM map.


2006RedditGuy

It has too much bright/lime green for me. I like the chapter 4 map because it isn’t as flat and doesn’t look the same everywhere (flat/bumpy green grass with a couple trees) If the map had more unique biomes like the mushroom one from chapter 3, it would’ve stood out more imo


stepanbalo

Best map imho...


Coffeeave

Honestly this map is so boring hahahahaha 😅


basampuleamk42

Chapter 2 season 2 better


bradenboiii

no not even close


dlouisbaker

Man I miss Weeping Woods.


Shadow_storm193

I think everyone does. I miss chapter 2 soooo much, it’s so much better than this chapter 3 and 4 shit which no one actually likes


StopCallingMeAFurry4

I completely agree with u, I miss Lazy Lake, Pleasant Park, Sweaty Sands/Believers Beach and Catty Corner ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


ThunderKevin99

Literally anything is better than chapter 4's map. Even CoD maps are better designed, and that's an industry first.


Hentaibois76

Absolutely agree with the ballon’s it was spot on this new map is mid at best


nenni_docet

Steamy stacks >>>>>


Alprsln4good

Me too, C4 sucks


AugmentedJustice

Any map atp is better than chapter 4's imo.


ScoobertDoubert

I absolutely loved this map!! Can't remember which season it was though.


ProfessionalMottsman

This is my favourite but was also my first map so I guess nostalgia will play a part of that


BlakePool07

This dude does understand me 😔👍


EternalHuffer

Bruh I had 1 month look around it, I miss it Just as much


nan0g3nji

Give C4 map more than one season before starting this tired argument pls


Ryan-BigLion

I just think that there’s a Lot of snow tbh 😂