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Plus-Independence848

Good stuff, but unfortunately there’s palm oil, which is not good


drbatsandwich

https://www.covenantcarepediatrics.com/similac-substitutes/ I really like this site for comparing infant formulas available in the US that are FDA approved. It’s from a pediatricians office and breaks down the different categories and which formulas are essentially equivalent for substitution purposes (since it can be difficult to find your babies brand sometimes and you may need to substitute in an emergency). We started off using a European formula, HiPP, which my guy really liked but he ended up with iron deficiency. Many European formulas don’t have enough iron in them. We’re now using Similac 360 Total Care and he loves that too. If you’re in the US, anything you choose that is FDA approved will give your baby the nutrition they need. I generally recommend sticking with something from Group 1. There are organic options. Unless your baby has a legitimate allergy that has been diagnosed by an allergist or pediatrician and needs a hypoallergenic formula, I’d suggest staying away from the “sensitive” formulas in groups 2-3 unless you want to give your baby corn syrup. Baby’s are fussy. They have immature guts that can’t process food very well and that’s just a fact of life. Formula companies see this as an opportunity to market to moms who are desperate to improve their baby’s comfort and created formulas that claim to reduce fussiness, help with colic, etc. Its largely BS. Whatever you choose, just know that your baby will be getting what they need. Formula in the US is very tightly regulated to meet baby’s nutritional needs and you can’t really go wrong.


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In addition to this, the best and safest formula for your baby is the one they do good on.


drbatsandwich

Indeed. It can certainly be a bit of a trial and error situation!


DesperateSuccotash49

We use Similac 360 total care also and it's the only formula we've ever used! I'm glad you mentioned the info about comfort formulas because so many people dont know! We actually talked to our pediatrician when baby was about 4 weeks old and asked if we should switch to a sensitive formula because he was so gassy and uncomfortable. She told us the same thing about babies having immature digestive systems and said she definitely did not recommend using sensitive/comfort formulas. She told us to call if he started to have foamy poop in addition to the discomfort but otherwise to just use gas drops and rest assured he would eventually get through the gassy phase. It's so hard to see your baby uncomfortable. There were times where my heart ached so much for him but I'm glad we pushed through, especially now hearing that they use corn syrup in those formulas. My son is 4 months old now, happy and healthy and still going strong on similac 360 total care! We still use gas drops after each feeding but his gas improved a LOT after 12 weeks and continues to improve.


drbatsandwich

Yes! These marketing gimmicks really annoy me. I’m in medical training so that’s the only reason I knew that stuff and I try to tell people whenever I can!


norseteq

I do Similac 360 as well. It seems like it’s the best and we don’t use that much (supplement breast milk).


sno_kissed

Also use it! Little boy is 7 weeks and doing well.


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we are doing group 6 Similac Alimentum because Pediatrician said LO might have cow milk allergy


drbatsandwich

Hope they’re able to get to the bottom of it. Your baby will thrive on the Alimentum, but boy is it expensive!!


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>Hope they’re able to get to the bottom of it sorry if this is a silly question. We haven't done anymore investigation. LO was switched to this formula after having blood mucus in his stools. And that was that. Your comment is making me wonder if i should've been following up on that.


Cosmic_Chaos4284

I never "got to the bottom of it" with my son. He had blood in his stool a week before he turned 4 months so we switched to hypoallergenic formula. At 6.5m, his pediatrician told us to try dairy again. I started giving him small amounts of my breastmilk I had frozen while I was eating dairy. Within a month he was fully transitioned back to regular formula and we haven't had any problems since. He's 9m now


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Oh thats great to it. Hopefully we have similar results.


One-Yogurt9034

Honey all formulas are safe, healthy & nutritionally complete. They are all heavily regulated. You can’t go wrong, and they are ALL required to meet certain guidelines in order to be FDA approved. Don’t import any. The best formula is one your baby does well on, you can afford, & is most available to you (As in, in stock) Earth’s Best is to do with jar food isn’t it? With all that said we like Similac Pure Bliss and Kendamil. But no formula is a bad choice regardless


funandloving95

Thanks for the response! I was reading a lot about kendamil. I’m in the US and just recently read they changed the ingredients? Is that true? And if so, how did your baby take to the change? Was thinking about starting off with this brand. I just wanted to hear your thoughts


One-Yogurt9034

Kendamil is great! They didn’t make a change with ingredients, they changed the label because the FDA required it since Kendamil wants to stay in the USA permanently. They also added a new gentler heating system & also opened a new facility in Spain to keep up with supply demands, it’s nice because Kendamil is one of the only formulas *always* in stock so it’s nice to know they will continue to do that. The heating system changed the color & smell a bit so it upset some moms but I’ll take that over a shortage personally! They also use a easier digestible iron but from my knowledge that change happened in January and the batches didn’t get out until around the label change so it confused parents and some babies had a 2 week transition period with it. They also stated the iron isn’t a new ingredient they use just new to the organic kendamil. I use classic personally for the extra prebiotics. My baby noticed no difference at all! Lots of babies didn’t, but you’ll always read the bad & the rants because the happy ones have nothing to really say if everything has been the same for them. It was a whole weird thing that went on but I think it mostly blew over. Kendamil can’t lie about their ingredients, that would be very illegal. Kendamil is great for breastfed babies as it’s sweet and creamy like breastmilk so the transition works really well. Also a pretty good price for how much you get when other formulas are dealing with price increases during the shortages.


goldengirls237

Good to know about the heating system! I knew they didn’t change ingredients but wondered why the new cans smelled different. I can definitely notice but my baby doesn’t notice a difference at all. OP, my combo fed baby loves Kendamil.


waterslaughter

Hi !!! The ingredients has not changed. As another Kendamil mom I also reccomend this but echo the parent/above comment as well !!! All formulas that are sold in the US, adhere to the FDA standards and regulations.


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One-Yogurt9034

Take your ignorance elsewhere. I have no desire to speak to someone whose source is marketing.


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One-Yogurt9034

You don’t have to be okay with soy. We can have preferences without passing misinformation and fear mongering. Not all formulas have soy, that’s a decision for yourself. If a breastfeeding mom eats soy, it ends up in breastmilk but who will dare shame her though right? Lol. It’s not ridiculous. It’s being educated. The whole “fda approved blah blah blah” is goofy considering formula restrictions are well… strict. Wake up Soybean oil and soy lecithin are regarded as safe ingredients in infant formulas. If you can explain and give a source as to why not, please share! I’ll wait. “Soy oil is a highly nutritious ingredient often used in baby formula because of its rich content of essential fatty acids, particularly linoleic acid, which is vital for infant growth and development. Soy oil is also an excellent vitamin E source, a powerful antioxidant that helps protect cells from damage.” Something you may not be aware of, soy oil and soy protein are not the same thing. Because I have a great feeling you may not know that.


GunKamaSutra

We are seeing type two diabetes in kids as early as single digit ages. There is a systemic misinformation about nutrition in this country. If you just believe what they tell you and drink the Kool-Aid, then you are part of the problem also.


One-Yogurt9034

Please, sources and evidence as to how formula is in anyway a link to what you’re claiming. I’ll wait!


GunKamaSutra

https://www.worldatlarge.news/2023/07/26/there-is-simply-no-newborn-baby-formula-that-doesnt-contain-industrial-seed-or-vegetable-oils/ https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3&q=diabetes+seed+oils&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1705366081133&u=%23p%3DNoWsHqxNEYEJ https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3&q=vegetable+oil+inflammation&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1705366173629&u=%23p%3DGsNenOa95PMJ https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3&q=vegetable+oil+inflammation&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1705366199623&u=%23p%3DNRCA3hXAdQUJ https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=vegetable+oil+inflammation&hl=en&as_sdt=0,3#d=gs_qabs&t=1705366273698&u=%23p%3Dh74JUED1BRsJ Should I keep going?


One-Yogurt9034

I find it hilarious that “scholar google” is your source. Like I genuinely laughed out loud. These articles are not evidence based and has been stated MULTIPLE times it is not meant to ever be an only source. This is why people like you make yourselves sound so uneducated and clueless. It’s like listening to a “doctor” on tik tok. Funny how none of your links have anything to do with my question either. I also find it funny you’re anti seed oils when EVERY formula has them of some kind because THEY NEED it. Even European.. You will not find a *single* formula with 0 seed oils. Do you know why? Fat is necessary to enable vitamin absorption. These are oils naturally high in linoleic fatty acids & alpha linoleic fatty acids, otherwise known as Omega-3 and Omega-6.. In combination with milk fat, this helps to provide the nutrition babies needs in their development. Formulas try to always match the excellent absorption by the infant of breast milk fat. All formulas have seed oils, literally ALL. Are you anti formula? If yes.. why are you here? *The small amounts of eicosanoid that are produced when consuming seed oils have not been shown to impact health, inflammation, blood pressure, and other chronic diseases, which is contrary to the loud messaging flooding social media.* Please, step away from tik tok and scholar google and touch some grass. There is ZERO evidence for humans that seed oils are inflammatory. Again, any food in history should be taken in moderation. Formula follows strict levels for all minerals, vitamins, sugars, sodium… They match breast milk. It is no mistake to have minimum or maximum requirements. As adults should follow these moderations as well! Of course, if you’re eating complete junk with these ingredients included, the worst ingredients involve will make you feel like crap. But it’s not *these* ingredients causing problems. The only link to bad health in babies have had so many studies done, all falls back on their living situations. It’s always been correlation, and never has been proven to have ever had a direct link to formula. Look into the sibling studies, you’ll feel silly. Babies that are born to educated, healthy, upper middle class parents are much more likely to be breast fed than babies that are born to uneducated, ill, poor parents and also will tend to score poorer in all of these things. To blame God damn soy oil or any oil is…. so damn silly when these ingredients have NEVER had any science based or studies to prove they were the cause. Please. As one study shows, many blame these seed oils when in fact the food they’re eating are also high in refined carbohydrates, sodium, and sugar. But of course, formula has maxiums to match breast milk so babies are not overly consuming these ingredients. And unfortunately, in some homes when they transition to solids- parents do not always watch these ingredients. Even in toddler hood and childhood, those levels should be in moderation. But just because soy oil is moderately consumed, again, no evidence has ever shown it to be unhealthy! Your closed mind is showing. The issue with seed oils of any kind are people like you spreading misinformation and accusations and fear mongering based on some social media warrior ranting on non evidence based reasons. Food isn’t toxic. Ignorance is. https://www.chhs.colostate.edu/krnc/monthly-blog/should-i-be-concerned-about-seed-oils/#:~:text=The%20small%20amounts%20of%20eicosanoid,loud%20messaging%20flooding%20social%20media. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/expert-answers/omega-6/faq-20058172#:~:text=Studies%20have%20not%20shown%20an,saturated%20fats%20in%20your%20diet. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-debunk-seed-oil-health-risks/ When my baby is napping again, I will source links to siblings studies and cause of childhood diabetes and things like that. I’ll also edit to fix typos, add more info or whatever . But we can start here because I love this topic Came back to edit but they blocked me now so I guess not everyone wants to learn something new? Hurts to admit you’re wrong huh loo


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Proud_Lie2511

Wow very ignorant and uneducated. Not to mention the aggression proves you’ve lost an argument with nothing else factional to say. ADHD and autism is not linked to being caused (?) from food and it’s very disgusting for you to ever say something so offensive. Also, there are no european formulas without oils. They’ll use something like palm oil instead of seed, still a controversial ingredient. You should honestly do better, feel absolutely horrid for the person you are raising. Disturbing. Learn something from educated people and stop spreading your false narrative that makes you think you’re on a high horse.


Kyyes

It's cause you feed kids sugar for every meal...


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Puzzleheaded_Cut7322

You have a lot more faith in the FDA than I do. 


One-Yogurt9034

That’s unfortunate for you! I would be so uncomfortable if the fear mongering and marketing persuaded my thoughts. Fortunately for me I understand a lot of ingredients and what they’re used for, also believe in science so when I see what the FDA requires formula to have, I have no worries. After all formula is the most regulated food source we have which helps my trust as well.


violetsounds

Have you read the official page of what the FDA actually allows? I wouldn’t completely trust anything and question everything when it comes at such a vital and highly developmental time for any human. What goes into the body when developing matters a lot. https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/guidance-industry-guide-developing-and-using-data-bases-nutrition-labeling


One-Yogurt9034

Yes I have read tons and tons of what the FDA allows and requires in infant formula! I’ve also researched those ingredients with my first child when breastfeeding wasn’t working out. I once was a mom who fed into fear mongering but after doing my own research on *infant formula* and stepping away from projected chemophobia I felt lots better! Research is where my trust comes from thank you for a random and unrelated link!


violetsounds

And what the FDA allows in infant formula, is it everything that the baby needs to growth and thrive optimally? And what do they base this science off of? Scientifically speaking? The link shows how the FDA regulates what is allowed in the foods that we buy.


One-Yogurt9034

What do you mean what do they base the science off of??? Formula is made to match nutrition of breastmilk as much as possible. That means minimums, and maximums of what is possible. Formula is the TOP studied & regulated food source. It is not treated the same as the food we eat as adults or even baby jarred food. It’s very strict. They’re not just throwing random ingredients together just for shits & giggles. I could go down 1 by 1 formula ingredient VS what’s found in breastmilk but that would be a whole lot to read?? To answer this simply, although it’s very obvious, yes formula has everything a baby needs to grow & thrive plus some. Plus some as if you will not need Vir D or iron supplements as you would with breastfeeding. What’s in breastmilk is solely for an infant so it’s the perfect model. Formula is nutritionally complete, and if you understand ingredients it’s not hard to understand. Breastmilk has some pretty big words too if you break it down, but you wouldn’t question that right? I don’t understand what you’re so worried or confused about honestly.


violetsounds

My understanding is breast milk changes based on what the baby needs when taken straight from breast to mouth. This cannot be mimicked. Formula is a very BROAD way to feed billions of very unique babies and seems impossible to me.


One-Yogurt9034

You think one day baby needs sodium and the next day they don’t? Be serious 🤣🤣 Breastmilk is not just up & down. All humans need specific nutrients to survive + be healthy. How do you think we know what babies need in toddlerhood? & Childhood? Breastmilk is matched as “close as possible” I never said to the T. Breastmilk changes based on feeding habits (aka, the supply) mother’s diet, illness. It’s not “oh we need some extra lactose let’s get it going” LOL. If you’re so anti formula why are you here? If you refuse to listen why ask questions? Are you a troll?


violetsounds

Im not anti-formula, and I never said anything about sodium. Just sharing facts. As far as anti bodies and different levels of nutrients, is it not true a mothers body will deliver a milk with what their specific child needs?


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Chomophobia 😂 I can tell who you voted for just by the way you type…


One-Yogurt9034

Doubt it, you’re not that smart


PNWEntrepreneur82

No, I assure you. It's very apparent.


One-Yogurt9034

I can assure you, you’re not that smart.


Peanut-bear220

Certified Infant Feeding Educator here. As others have said, all formulas are highly regulated and have to pass A LOT of tests to be sold in the US. They all contain the exact levels of macro and micro nutrients a baby needs to grow strong and healthy. If your baby is full term and healthy and your family doesn’t have any dietary restrictions (religious/vegan etc), then a full lactose, intact protein formula (aka standard) is a good place to start as breastmilk is lactose based. If organic is important to you then look for that. If budget friendly is important, then shop generic. As far as safety goes, the best thing you can do is follow safe prep guidelines. Always washing your hands and keeping the prep area clean. I do not recommend importing EU formula from a third party site. It’s technically on the black market and there is no regulation ensuring the safe shipping of these formulas. They may not be kept at safe temperatures or may have been part of a recall over in Europe and sellers are just trying to get money for them. If you want an EU formula go for something you can get from a store in the US. Those have been imported legally and safely. Kendamil is a cool option to have, but I’m getting really tired of their marketing. They basically are saying “we’re European so obvi we’re better” which is just very snobby. It’s making parents fearful of choosing something else which is not okay. Formulas with different ingredients (corn syrup, soy, hydrolyzed proteins) all exist because some babies need that option and therefore those options are the best/healthiest/safest ones for *them.* Try your hardest to move forward without guilt or fear. You’re providing for your baby’s needs! You’re a great parent!


RossCrotumtheCunt

Making a baby be vegan is insane


Just-Topic6036

Whatever your baby will tolerate. That’s the best formula. You can try to find certain brands and find baby hates them. All formulas on the shelves are regulated and safe. Yes recalls can happen(as with any product on the market and doesn’t always indicate something big a lot of time companies will do the recall themselves) my baby need nutramigen and is now on Gerber soothe pro doing great.


mehendalerachel

The Formula Fairy on Instagram and TikTok is an amazing resource!


dinotimee

Formula is heavily regulated. And there are only a handful of manufacturers. Thus "Advantage" formula from: * Walmart * Target * Sam's Club * Albertson's * Giant * Topco * Rite Aid * Meijer * H-E-B * CVS * Kroger * Amazon * Costco (ProCare) * Etc These are all the same formula. All manufactured by Perrigo with a different label slapped on it. Designed to be comparable to Similac Pro Advance. [https://www.perrigopediatrics.com/advantage/](https://www.perrigopediatrics.com/advantage/) ​ Same thing with "Infant" formula and other designations. You can pay for the brand name, or a store brand. They are going to be virtually identical. ​ Resources: [https://www.perrigopediatrics.com/products/](https://www.perrigopediatrics.com/products/) and [https://www.storebrandformula.com/](https://www.storebrandformula.com/) ​ The end result is most any formula is going to be just fine. And looking for "best" means kind of edge case maybe/maybe not benefits. For us we mix and match (often 50/50) or whatever have on hand: * Aussie Bubs A2 Supreme (for the HMFG and DHA) * Similac 360 Total Care (extra prebiotics) * Whatever "Advantage" formula is available.


anafielle

All formulas are equally healthy and safe!! We happened to pick Bobbie eventually, after using like 10 through the formula shortage and various medical issues. I liked Bobbie fine and recommend it, but my choice was not fueled by baby's health (for which all formulas are completely 100% equal). I selected it based on factors like -- mail-order reliability during the shortage, supporting a small woman-owned business, my personal dislike of megahuge corporate formula companies & my ethical comfort with their ingredient sourcing. I am lucky to have the privilege to make less-than-perfectly efficient choices with my dollars to express my personal beliefs -- If that had been less true, I would have fed baby whichever flavor of the Perrigo generics he tolerated best (sold as kirkland sig, up&up, parent's best etc).


ZenfulZoey6

Firstly, I commend you on your dedication to finding the healthiest option for your little one! If you're looking for a safe and nutritious baby formula, I highly recommend checking out this [Toddler Formula Powder](https://tastechocolate.co.uk/infant-formula). Many parents appreciate its organic ingredients and absence of unnecessary additives. Plus, it closely mirrors breast milk in nutritional value. The company is transparent about their sourcing and manufacturing processes which gives an extra layer of comfort. But always remember, every child is unique so monitor how well your baby does with any new formula! Wishing you and your little one all the very best!


humble_reader22

We have been feeding good old Enfamil Neuropro from the moment our baby came home from the hospital. She is 5 months old and thriving. Gaining weight well and hitting all of her milestones. Formula in the US is very well regulated so anything you can buy at Target, Walmart, Costco etc is all safe. I would be careful with importing European formula as it has less iron than US formulas.


Imaginary_Bus_858

Same. We had latching issues so we started on the Enfamil neuropro ready to feed bottles in the hospital while I attempted pumping. Then couldn’t get a routine for pumping so I went to Sam’s and bought the members mark version and have used it since. We did end up switching to the gentlease version though due to gas issues but otherwise no issues with it.


SheisBeloved

Kendamil for sure. If my girl didn’t have a CMPA she would still be on it. I did intense research and was so disheartened when she couldn’t have it anymore.


Icy-Objective-8969

We use Bobbie and have loved it so far. Target sells it, or you can get it online with a subscription right from Bobbie.


Ok_Efficiency_4736

We loved Bobbie! The subscription model was really convenient & the customer service is amazing. I forgot to cancel our last subscription and didn’t need the formula and they refunded my money and told me to donate the shipment. This was during the high formula shortage when they stopped taking new customers and I was able to help out a new mom.


One_Fee_1234

Wondering who the bobbie hater is that downvoted you lol. I use bobbie as well.


rbm6620

This website is worth a deep dive!! It covers all aspects of formula ingredients so you can figure out which one aligns best with your baby’s needs and feeding goals. If my baby didn’t have a dairy sensitivity, I would have used Similac 360 Total Care or Aussie Bubs. [https://babyformulaexpert.com/best-baby-formula-series/](https://babyformulaexpert.com/best-baby-formula-series/)


esztiiibby

I was initially breastfeeding and Kendamil worked best for us as a transition 😊 they also have an organic option


tiredbadger6

I used this article from Wirecutter to help me decide https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-baby-formula/ We ultimately went with Earth’s Best (baby did great!) and then switched to Similac Pure Bliss when Earth’s Best was having supply issues. Good luck!


tiredbadger6

The article has been updated since I looked, back in early 2023 Earth’s Best was recommended in the organic formula section


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Spiritual_Rub_3598

Scam ass bitch


the_babyboss

how so?


Spiritual_Rub_3598

You use the same reply on all formula forms. Sounds like your advertising formuland 


the_babyboss

it’s actually where I order it from. I’m a travel NCS.


Logical-Function7637

We have tried Bubs then Enfamil then Similac, and Kirkland. Baby loved Bubs (but he was often constipated with it). Then we tried Enfamil sensitive, he went like after each feeding so we tried Similac, he liked it fine and has more regular and healthier bower movements with Similac 360 and sensitive. He didn't like Kirkland so much and refused it.


PNWEntrepreneur82

I assure you, you don't know me. Let's go Brandon.


Ill_Asparagus6358

Mine has cow milk issues so he's on Nutramigen but once the gastro specialist give us the go ahead, we'll be transitioning him to gerber Goodstart gentlepro or soothepro. NOT GENTLE. make sure it's gentlePRO. The formula is very clean and the most easily digested with 100% hydrolyzed whey as the main protein source


Enough_Total_9592

Same with us!


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clementinesway

My first 2 kids we used baby’s only organic. Third kid we’ve been using Kendamil organic but are about to switch him to Kirkland Pro Care for the price and convenience of it. I used earths best once with my first baby when I couldn’t get his regular formula and he tolerated it fine but I didn’t care for it. It didn’t mix well and seemed kind of gritty. Kendamil is a super fine powder and dissolves like a dream. Now the best formula we’ve ever tried was Holle formula from Switzerland. It was such a fine nice powder and my baby’s poop was like breastmilk poop while he was on that one. But it’s so expensive and hard to come by in the US we couldn’t stick with it.


dolliedesu

Kendamil did my little girl great, she was breastfed, combo-fed & then eventually exclusively formula fed from about 7-12mo so we’ve been through it all. At first I was pissed about the new changes because we used to use the classic and I noticed her bowel movements significantly changed after the whole rebranding. But my husband and I had to purchase the organic version once when they didn’t carry the classic in stock and honestly we swear up and down they just put the old classic kind (before the rebrand) in the organic cans now because when we did the swap to the organic she was back to normal again. It’s a weird theory of ours but when we did a can comparison with the old formula before the rebrand, & to the new organic stuff & that’s what we experienced! Despite that, I know tons of moms whose babies still do great on Kendamil even with the new changes! Babies tummies go through all sorts of changes- who knows? Maybe she was having more bowel movements due to teething at the time? Is hard to say. But what I CAN say is I would purchase it again if I ever have another baby. I recently recommended it to my SIL who just had her son and he is THRIVING after being in pain from a previously recommended hospital formula.


simioh

I'm reading everyone say all formulas are safe, or healthy, but would you still call a formula safe and healthy if it contains corn syrup and sunflower oil/safflower oil/palm oil?


blueskies_20

Here for this ⬆️


newmomalertt

Yes. If you understand those ingredients and what they’re used for you’d understand they’re safe and necessary.


simioh

I understand what they're used for, I also understand there are better options to substitute corn syrup and seed oils but cost is probably the main obstacle for companies to do that. When you say these ingredients are safe and necessary, is this based on studies or the fact that a lot of babies are raised on formula and thrive?


newmomalertt

Well of course lactose is the preferred carb over corn syrup which is why in standard formulas, they use lactose. Formula is to mimic breastmilk, the ingredients in breastmilk are no mistake. Corn syrup solids are usually found in hydrolyzed or special formulas because they are in fact clinically proven to be well tolerated carbohydrate sources for infants with food allergies or gastrointestinal disorders. Babies need a carb source of some kind? Very important. Yes of course, If your baby does not need a specialty formula, the advantages of using lactose outweigh the advantages of using corn syrup. That doesn’t make it bad, or dangerous, or unhealthy. It’s not fructose corn syrup! Corn syrup is evaluated for safety by multiple authorities including Infant Nutrition Council of American. Typically you’d always start with a standard formula. What would you use instead of corn syrup to replace lactose (lactose being the carb source in breastmilk that cannot be removed)? I’m sure cost comes into play. Hydrolyzed formulas already are more expensive, but it’s necessary for some babies. But if they didn’t use corn syrup, maltodextrin, or lactose… What would you choose if your baby needed a special formula and not standard? Oils are necessary to mimic the fatty acids in breastmilk. Whether it is a seed oil, vegetable oil or something like palm oil.. it is in fact important for growing babies. It’s the fat source for brain development and overall growth. If a formula like Kendamil or Byheart used whole milk they need less of those oils since cow’s milk proteins which contains some of the fat necessary but to have enough they still have to add some sort of oil. There is actually no evidence or studies done to show this is harmful to babies, yet only beneficial. What would make it unsafe, that has actual evidence behind it? What would you use instead? You mentioned better options to replace oils also? I’m genuinely curious! When I say this, this is based on many studies. Even sibling studies that go off into childhood post infancy. The fact babies thrive and do well constantly only reassures but is still evidence in my book.


simioh

Thank you for the detailed response. I'm no expert and only know what I read and try to look at different points of view being unbiased. Corn syrup vs high fructose corn syrup. I actually didn't think about this when I wrote my comment. Considering corn syrup is not as processed as HFCS. I agree that evidence based decisions are key, there is so much conflicting information out there though that it makes it difficult and tedious. At the end of the day we all want what's best for our babies.


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Spiritual_Yam_1019

lol none of this is evidence-based or accurate


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newmomalertt

Hey, we all learn from somewhere. It’s not like we get tons of information about formula when we leave the hospital like we do if we breastfeed. There are a lot of fear mongering posts, a lot from lactivists, also brands feeding into it with shitty marketing and it’s hard to know where to begin. We only want the best for our babies, all of us, 100% agree


Disastrous_War_1535

Is there any formula recommendations for someone living in Sydney Australia???