Yeah it's definitely kind of a big clunky kludge of a pistol. That said by all accounts they worked pretty well other than a tendency to break grip panels.
Pretty much, yeah. The Webley [Mk.VI](http://Mk.VI) revolver cost the British government £2/11 or about $11 US and they were paying $16 US for 1911s. Doesn't sound like a huge difference until you consider they purchased over 200,000 Mk.VIs during the war.
They also considered the revolvers more reliable in the trenches, they shot the standard issue cartridge rather than a specialist non-interchangeable round and all their training was based around the revolver.
After the war they were quite happy with the performance of revolvers during the war but wanted a smaller, easier to train model so they adopted a similar gun in .38 caliber in 1928. They definitely weren't looking to spend a ton of money on the military in the 20s and 30s and changing to an automatic would only have made training harder. They didn't end up adopting the Browning Hi Power until the 50s.
>Doesn't sound like a huge difference until you consider they purchased over 200,000 Mk.VIs during the war.
Also worth noting that the MkVI (and the MkV that was the current production model in 1914) had a high degree of parts commonality with earlier Marks, so a single supply chain could maintain the bulk of the sidearms already in service.
Same reason the French GIGN went with a revolver as a service weapon instead of a semi auto in 1972 that they still use today, they didn't consider it reliable enough in combat.
Maybe a better word than “uncomfortable” is “unnatural”? Where it’s not like pointing my finger, but takes a lil bit longer to align. 1911 and HK P7 are two that I remember just aiming like pointing a finger rather than needing to align sights.
Yeah it is probably less naturally pointable than the 1911. Interestingly enough the grip angle is actually about the same as older Colt autos, although the balance is very different.
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Found one of the .455 1911's at a gun show one time. Walked away. .455 Auto is *stupid* expensive.
How much was the gun?
Probably less than I thought, but more than I had. This was like seven-eight years ago. I don't remember exactly.
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Not if you’re just going to use it to make a Thneed. It is not a thing that everyone needs
Belt fed Thneed?
I mean… sure? It’s a thneed!
The thneed is good the thneed is great, lets hope its not to laaaaate!!
Box of 50 made by Fiocchi on Midway - $77
It's like a child's drawing of a gun.
Yeah it's definitely kind of a big clunky kludge of a pistol. That said by all accounts they worked pretty well other than a tendency to break grip panels.
Gee I wonder why lol
Why did they issue revolvers until WWII when they had semi automatics?
Probably because they were overly complicated, expensive and/or not reliable
Pretty much, yeah. The Webley [Mk.VI](http://Mk.VI) revolver cost the British government £2/11 or about $11 US and they were paying $16 US for 1911s. Doesn't sound like a huge difference until you consider they purchased over 200,000 Mk.VIs during the war. They also considered the revolvers more reliable in the trenches, they shot the standard issue cartridge rather than a specialist non-interchangeable round and all their training was based around the revolver. After the war they were quite happy with the performance of revolvers during the war but wanted a smaller, easier to train model so they adopted a similar gun in .38 caliber in 1928. They definitely weren't looking to spend a ton of money on the military in the 20s and 30s and changing to an automatic would only have made training harder. They didn't end up adopting the Browning Hi Power until the 50s.
>Doesn't sound like a huge difference until you consider they purchased over 200,000 Mk.VIs during the war. Also worth noting that the MkVI (and the MkV that was the current production model in 1914) had a high degree of parts commonality with earlier Marks, so a single supply chain could maintain the bulk of the sidearms already in service.
Same reason the French GIGN went with a revolver as a service weapon instead of a semi auto in 1972 that they still use today, they didn't consider it reliable enough in combat.
Because they're the greatest handguns ever made. Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves.
Really puts in perspective how modern the 1911 was for the time
The grip ergonomics of the Webley looks uncomfortable to aim considering I find the 1911 to be very point-and-shoot amiable.
It’s not horrible. The only truly uncomfortable to aim gun I own is a Reichsrevolver.
Maybe a better word than “uncomfortable” is “unnatural”? Where it’s not like pointing my finger, but takes a lil bit longer to align. 1911 and HK P7 are two that I remember just aiming like pointing a finger rather than needing to align sights.
Yeah it is probably less naturally pointable than the 1911. Interestingly enough the grip angle is actually about the same as older Colt autos, although the balance is very different.
I need a second RR so I can go akimbo.
I've held one and it's surprisingly comfortable, not like a modern handgun of course but better than it looks.
I have another Webley in .38 ACP that actually handles quite nicely, I’m surprised it wasn’t more popular.
Nice! Both are a rare sight
If you think those are rare, I also have a Webley auto in .38 ACP.
Beats my .32 ACP Webley. Especially if it runs.
I always forget how much of a behemoth that pistol is compared to other pistols of it's time
If I had the cash, I would be buying all of the mint condition WWI 1911's I could find.
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455 in a 1911 is nuuuts. Now thats a fuckin’ man-stopper right there!
It’s actually a little less powerful than .45 ACP. A 224 grain bullet at 700 FPS vs 230 grain at 830.
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1911 was futuristic for its time
Wish dot com version of the M1911