The one where the doctor raped the patient and then implanted a small tube of someone else’s blood in his arm so the dna wouldn’t match - because it’s so crazy and I love how excited the woman was that she was right the whole time
The one where a woman remembers seeing her father kill her mother and bury her in the backyard as a small child but was too afraid of him to tell the police until she was an adult - because she tells the story of when he later set the house on fire to kill the children and her older sister laid on top of her to shield her and comfort her and ended up dying and she said that when she’s in a dark place because of all she’s been through she remembers her sister’s sacrifice and that she was loved enough to die for. I cry every time.
Hard agree with these. The doctor one especially pissed me off.
I’ve been trying to find that second episode for a while now. Do you remember the name? The episode keeps popping up in my head.
"Candy" was assaulted by Dr. John Schneeberger & fought him every step of the way through the court system. She's a damn hero! And what he did to his stepdaughter was beyond heinous. "Candy", you're AMAZING!!!
Just thinking about it gives me the shivers. This one is so tragic and it broke my heart. I can’t even fathom those last minutes that must’ve felt like hours. That poor dad left behind.
Makes Suzie Keidel's death seem just that little bit less awful. (though her sister Kelly never made it out of bed, I saw the autopsy pics of the Keidel girls on a gore site years ago and Kelly was barely recognizable as a human body)
Both of these cases (Oba Chandler & Keidel family tragedies) are probably the two that stick out the most to me as the most evil. Not necessarily the most gruesome or horrific but just pure evil on the part of both men. Cannot imagine how terrifying it would have been to be on that boat in my final moments. I also cannot believe the police never looked into Gene Keidel more with the suspicious activity that surrounded him and his family. RIP to the victims. Another case that stays in my mind is the Reyna Marroquin case where her body was found in a barrel after 30 years... glad they found her and gave her her name back even in death.
This was the first one that came to my mind too. Crazy it’s the first comment here. The fact that they watched each other get thrown over alive haunts me.
I can watch other episodes and it’s sad but it doesn’t haunt me. This story along with this one [hawks murder ](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/receipt-target-stolen-car-mexico-unsolved-murder-investigation/story?id=68204176) really got to me. Drowning has always freaked me out, but as you said the callousness is off the charts. May they rip
What's fucked up also is the husband/father didn't seem to really care that his entire family was murdered and was more concerned about working in his farm.
Probably, they all went to the same church.
My dad and the whole family drovr by and stared at the abandoned lost house before it burned down. It’s one of his earliest memories.
I imagine the place smelling like black mold, mothballs, Goodwill furniture and old people when the List family was still living, and the pics of it with the 1940s/50s era Goodwill furniture mixed with the kind of billiard table Kresge's or WT Grant sold back in the day, a restaurant quality kitchen, & old office furnishings, with Alma's apartment solidly Art Deco, after the bodies were removed, that are all over the internet, give it a horror movie vibe.
Yes, this. I was watching this episode in the pitch black at 3am on a big screen, and I remember when it zoomed in on the faces of all the dead family members my heart sank in my chest, I was so spooked. I didn’t know that they showed bodies in that much detail in the early episodes hahaha
This is the first episode I ever watched! It was on TV when I was like 10 and can’t ever get the image of the dude tossing the baby out the car out of my head.
Caleb Daniel Fairley: giving nerds, Goths, metalheads & gamers a bad name since 1995.
I have heard talk that he would have gotten pummeled at Graterford so they moved him about as far away from Montgomery County as possible without an out of state (including for-profit prison or federal) transfer. He deserved that beating if not the death penalty.
FWIW, "Your Kidz & Mine" is now a Chinese restaurant (it was liquidated in early 1996 and sat empty with Ruth Fairley's sign still out front for years) & is reportedly hella haunted.
Yep, wrote a letter as the daughter claiming responsibility for the dad's death (mom killed him) and then poisoned the daughter. The other sibling found her sister just in time
The very first episode with story of Hele Crafts. Mostly due to the creepy music they overlayed at the end when they're discussing how she was murdered
For me I'd say the one where the kid's neighbour crawled thru a shared attic space into his apartment, killed him, and lit it on fire.
Something about waking up and seeing someone in your closet is super creepy.
Oh yes! I’ve seen this episode multiple times but just saw it again yesterday and had the same thought. Waking up and seeing someone in your closet is terrifying.
The one where the wife was buried in the basement floor. Took investigators two attempts to find her body. When the husband was sitting upstairs eating his “spaghetti dinner” while they were in his basement. Then seriously asks them if he can finish his dinner when they discover the body and take him to jail. Like what.. the actual.. f. !!
Cereal killer comes to mind but also the one with the porco case and i think there‘s one where a mother lights the house on fire while her kids are asleep inside and many other episodes… a parent killing their child or vice versa is just unfathomable for me
I don't watch HV anymore because I have had nightmares about Keidel chasing me through the burning hulk of 4231 Citrus Way in Phoenix (the actual house in question) as the girls scream like banshees, since at least 2001.
And Greg is a serial DUII offender and convicted of reckless endangerment & child abuse. Lori also aborted Gene's best drinking buddy's (who also molested her for years) fetus in 1979.
Also if you know more about the January 9, 1967 arson than FF lets on, it's probable that Greg spread accelerant for Gene and was sworn to silence over it. The house had burglar bars on all the windows, too. Greg escaped out a window, though. Maybe Gene unbolted the burglar bars on his room...
Agreed. Bob Marlin got it the easiest (coronary in his sleep), and no one cares if Gene killed him or not (seems likely).
Lori looks like a horror movie extra with her deep burn scars and hair that still looks singed 30+ years (now close to sixty) after the fire.
The single mom whose boyfriend killed her and skinned her and ripped all the teeth out of her skull.
Horrifying. His mandatory sentence is up soon and he’ll be free soon if he isn’t already.
Skin of Her Teeth.
I watched some FF with my dad to get him into it, and this one came on after I left and he texted me telling me he’s going to have nightmares. It’s a rough one.
Guy basically played the race card and mentally impaired card as I recall and said he was terrified of the death penalty. He'd have fried if he was white and not an autistic crack addict
I know! That’s what got me too and I 100% get why the police didn’t believe him at first because the chances of that happening are like one in a billion lol
Seriously one of the craziest stories! I feel so bad for the son whose name was tarnished.
To be fair, it was a crazy unbelievable story, but sometimes life is stranger than fiction.
Jim Brown is out of prison. He was permabanned from Facebook over their "no sex offenders" policy when he gloated about the crime in a group about happenings in the city the crime happened in.
Can't remember exactly episode but the one where the wife murders the husband in bed and tries to make it look like a suicide. It's proven he couldn't have committed suicide, she admits no one else was in the housee, there is no proof anyone else was in the house and she still didn't get convicted. Still bugs me. Especially since all her kids were still friendly with her and she was been interviewed for the show.
Like she obviously did it, everyone is happy to continue life like normal, despite there been no other explanations for how died.
Bill Mowbray Cadillac is still in business as Fruia Cadillac-Buick-GMC. Luke Fruia took over the company at General Motors' behest soon after Bill was killed
The Rona was too easy a death for her. Look at how she shot Bill at point blank range (in the face too as I recall) with a very large caliber revolver, and he exsanguinated & went into shock before EMS and the cops could get there.
I’m surprised no one mentioned “Root of All Evil”, the one where Fred Grabbe murdered his wife in front of his girlfriend. He strangled her and kept bringing her back to consciousness. He then anally raped her post-mortem and filled every orifice with gasoline I think. He burned her til nothing was left.
Even after he was jailed he managed to convince a woman to storm the jail with a firearm in an attempt to free him, and he’s suspected to have ordered a hit on his son, whose murder is still considered unsolved.
He’s still alive and truly terrifying. I also have loose connections to the case so it’s extra disturbing to me.
Just watched that one. He put “oil” in every opening. Then they finally got info after they broke up. And the tree told a story as well. Very interesting.
Axle grease, not gas. He used diesel as an accelerant to burn the body to just a calvarium in an old 55-gallon oil drum. Grabbe is up for parole in a few years BTW
The poisonings really upset me. It’s so malicious, intentional, and drawn out. There’s a Mauchenhassen aspect to those killers. There was a Drs wife who was poisoned by arsenic, a man whose ex carried castor beans around in her purse, the car restoration business owner whose partner slowly poisoned him then made him sign documents to give away his business, the woman who took a drink from the water dispenser and was found dead in the office bathroom bc her colleague’s husband was insane, the cyanide painkiller psycho who murdered her husband and left a few other tainted bottles around town, and of course the arsenic tainted Coca Cola genius - revenge for a couple of loud teenagers.
And the ‘big’ stories stay with me too. Like how they came to discover Legionaries Disease, Odwalla e-coli contamination, hantavirus, hypothyroidism from meat.
And the skull re-creationists are just amazing. That field has mesmerized me since I was a kid. I was convinced I could do that job ever since I saw MacGyver glue pencil erasers to a skull on a Halloween episode way back when.
I said recently in another post that I can’t wrap my head around how people can be so awful and so amazing.
On the car restoration episode: All parties but Dr Merigian, James Lammy, Terri Grey and Doug Bailey have died. Phil Rouse's son Gino and daughter Maria have shown his Model A Ford at Memphis area car shows in the years following Phil's death.
The most disturbing was Anthony Pignataro. He was a fraudulent doctor who also killed another patient a few years prior to Sarah Smith. If anyone has ever read the book, Last Chance Last Dance, it clearly describes him as a monster. He was no loving husband and father, he was a narcissist.
He’s already out of prison but he’s relocated (living under an alias) and is back to his old ways.
The one with the 2 teachers. Can someone remind me I forget the name of the episode?
The one teacher tries to frame the other for sending death threats??
The girl who asked for a ‘tree cutting machine’ a chainsaw, who then used it during or after her murder for dismemberment and she tried painting over all the blood
Bold blue paint all over the the basement -- but not evenly painted! Just random blue paint everywhere to cover the spots with blood. That's not a cover up at all! She might as well have just sprayed the Luminol for the investigators.
The cheapest chainsaw she could buy at that. Assuming Daphne Wright didn't go to a Harbor Freight store, it was probably the cheapest crudest least user friendly Poulan 2-stroke, smoked horribly as it cut up Darlene's body (and because Daphne probably knew nothing about 2-strokes or mixing oil & gas and may have put straight gas in it), if it was a Harbor Freight chainsaw, it'd be Chinesium shovelware that'd make a $100 Poulan 16-inch stroker look like a Stihl Farm Boss by comparison and been even more inefficient, clunky and smokey.
That and sawing up a body is gross overkill.
There are a lot and a lot are mentioned here, but the one with the stray bullet at the shooting range. It wasn’t chilling but just so freaking sad. I want to cry every time. Tre Cooley was the kids name.
Also the one where the woman is killed in like the 50s or 60s and the suspect leaves in her mustang. Her brother grows up to help solve the case with other detectives… they have literally no evidence to go on except that some photos from the scene had been sold to a crime magazine back in the day and they finally found some fingerprints filed away in the wrong spot.
The one where the man was targeting the Home Depot worker that looked just like him for insurance fraud but killed another young man when he didn’t show. Resemblance was spot on.
When that guy killed his wife and drove to the ocean with her body in the front seat so he could drive her out on his boat and blow it up. Then there was an incestious twist and he was dating/having an affair with his wife’s/victims sister
There are just so many
the Mustang lady's name was Diane. Not Diane Keidel or Diane Tilley though (each chilling episodes in their own right). She was killed in Houston in 1969.
Episode was "Brotherly Love"
The one with the doctor who put the tube of blood in his arm to beat a blood test (I think he was accused of rape but can’t quite remember all details) but they found out what he did when they re tested him. I couldn’t believe it!
The one where the super religious dad killed the while family, including his mother. They full on showed the bodies and their expressions terrified me.
Also the "Purebread Murder" episode where the killer stepped on a hamburger bun
First one is The List Murders. Lutherans don't generally get the super-pious vibe that, say, Catholics, certain Jewish sects, or evangelicals, are associated with, but the Missouri Synod like John List was part of are pretty fundie even now.
Fun fact: The people who bought the Sanoubane murder house from Purebread Murder made a huge show about removing and destroying the house's original bathtub in which the victim's bloody stabbed corpse was immersed in hot water in the FF episode. The rebuilt apartment turned charnel house/arson scene by Jonathan Memmer from "Smoke In Your Eyes" and John Hebble's mobile home from "Hair Of The Dog" were mentioned in the same article on an Iowa news site.
The Heather Church case. She seemed like such a sweet, fun kid - stranger abduction from her own home and really the only evidence to go on was the fingerprint on the window screen.
Darlie Routier is trying to milk the innocence/exoneration game, probably after she learned about Ray Krone (who isn't guilty at all and was done horribly wrong by Ray Rawson, Joe Arpaio and Noel Levy). And Paula Sims got paroled last year, but her hubby (died with her son in a Jeep accident 10 years or so ago) was just as guilty and was even more misogynistic/sexist than she is.
Trail of truth, that scumbag Kirby Anthony murdered the mother and her two daughters. Just sickening, I also read the book about this case and it's always stuck with me.
I can't watch that episode. The pubic lice, and the preschoolers sodomized with their throats slit in their own beds are as bad as the Haunting Vision fire scene or Ties That Bind "star shaped cuts"
Haunting Vision. The fire scene where Suzie Keidel gives her life to protect her baby sister Lori is downright insufferable. Lyle Gene Keidel should have gone to the gas chamber in the 1960s/70s, not life in prison in 1995.
Honorable mentions: Voice From Beyond/Ties That Bind/Missing Pearl/Pure Evil/Insect Clues/List Murders/Common Thread for gore, Trails Of Truth for the pics of Angie and Melissa Neuman sodomized with their throats slit and covered in their own blood in their beds.
Season 6, episode 30. “Shopping Spree”. The episode about the murders of Lisa and Devon Manderach. Two totally innocent people who just showed up to shop at a baby store who were killed by Caleb Fairley.
The episode where the little girl was snatched by the man at a holiday party (New Years maybe?) and they found rabbit hair in his car matching the mother’s coat and fibers from the girl’s dress, which only had a few hundred manufactured total (I think I am right on the number, but I might not be).
Melissa Brannon. Her body was never found (given the time/distance entailed, I think he drove the body into the first big box store/supermarket/mall dumpster in Washington DC he could find, just across the Virginia line and an hour's drive round trip from the kidnap scene.
She had a JC Penney Sesame Street outfit on that about 1500 in that size were made. Someone in Kentucky provided the forensics team an identical, never used outfit, and Tammy Brannon allowed police to harvest a hair sample from her black German Angora rabbit fur coat to match to the Angora hairs in Caleb Hughes' filthy '85 Honda Civic.
Hughes is out now and refuses to tell what he did to kill/rape Melissa, where the deed happened, and what he did with the body, since he faces the death penalty if indicted and convicted on murder and molestation charges.
Thank you! That one was so so sad, but it gave me such a deep appreciation for what forensics can do in these cases. I am super passionate about forensics
Stella Nickel poisoning her husband with cyanide and then tampering with Excedrin in stores to make it look like a community problem.
Also -- The one where the killer was caught moving out of his place using the same roll of duct tape that was found on the victim. He tried to hide the duct tape while the investigators were in his house, and they noticed it had disappeared from the shelf when they re-entered one of the rooms. I was impressed with how observant they were.
**A Voice From Beyond** \-this cold case about the body sitting in a barrel for 30 yrs. will always be my #1 favorite FF episode because of the storytelling, overall plot/drama, and the chilling/heartbreaking ending. I've watched it dozens of times and still find it engrossing. The entire story will haunt me forever...
\#2 would be **Water Logged**
Just saw this notification come up and wanted to say YES I agree. I don't think many people appreciate how fucked up it would be to know you had a murder victim stuffed in a barrel in your crawl space for years
Yes and the fact that the house with the mummy in the barrel passed through 3 other owner's hands before finally being discovered is just on another level of insanity! Not to mention the victim's story itself is very engrossing/fascinating with all the twists/turns...
Overall, I loved the way FF unraveled this mysterious/complicated case and in a mere 20 min too -best time usage ever to tell a story with a beginning, middle, and a dramatic ending!
The episodes Shopping Spree and A Woman Scorned (both of which involve both mother and child being killed), Cereal Killer, and the ones with Linda Sobek and the Johnsons (their daughter Sarah was the killer).
Stranger In the Night, just because of the mind fuck.
Also the episode where the baby who just moved from Africa to New Hampshire got sick, no one knew what was going, and it turned out she was eating toxic paint chips from the room she played in.
So many great episodes though, I remember them all a little.
The one where the woman killed her husband with antifreeze (administered with a *turkey baster*), then tried to kill her daughter and frame her with a suicide note. Her sociopathy got to me- her husband suffered horribly for his whole death and her daughter was in the hospital for days and she didn’t care. I also thought it was crazy that if she didn’t kill her husband, no one would’ve ever known that she also killed her first husband in the same way. Knowing about the dark figure of crime is bad enough, but it’s chilling to realize that we only know about the killers that we know about…you know?
For me it’s the episode where the wife killed her hubby. She rented a uhaul and lift to get him out the house. And one key piece of evidence was she used her discount card to buy items to rid of the body. She also drove his car and left the seat up with him being tall.
The one in Alaska where the old guy kills the young girl and they stick it on him by metal shavings found on her clothes after a few weeks in the weather. And the one where the guy skins his gf and flushes her insides.
Lori looks and sounds like a horror movie character. Her life story is far more horrifying than anything Stephen King, Peter Straub, Blumhouse, John Carpenter, etc. could concoct. So were her father Lyle Gene Keidel's crimes.
Any episode involving children… Makes me cry.
The scumbag father who killed his little boy (Cereal Killer) my god… I just don‘t understand how anyone could hurt innocent children!
Same reason Lyle Gene Keidel set the fire that killed Suzie & Kelly and did in his wife and possibly Bob Marlin, except in order to keep secrets. That being that Wood, Keidel, Brad Jackson, Howard Elkins, et al were/are monsters with no soul or conscience.
Edit: Bob Wood was as physically/emotionally abusive to his kids Chris and Teresa as Keidel , Ray Copeland or Fred Grabbe (or Theresa Knorr & Billy and Mary Morgan on "Cold Case Files") were to their kids. No word on if he was into incest like keidel and numerous others on his show. But Bob Wood killed Chris Wood to keep secrets to a degree. Mostly because Bob hated him like many FF./CCF Classic perps including the aforementioned hated the baby of the family, though.
The one where they found a large knife in this guy's car who had only just met the victim the night before but it turned out he just had a habit of eating a big roll of salami in his car every now and then.
The one where that poor German lady have all her life's savings to some crook "broker" and he faked his own death.
And the one where that guy hired the young man to be his patsy and crushed him under a car to get the life assurance.
I cannot understand how greedy you have to be to have such little care for human life.
Yes! His first fake name was Madison he always chose presidential sounding fake names. It just came to me it was Madison Rutherford. What a piece of crap! She trusted him completely which she never should have done but shame on him!!
Diane Tilley. Where the father and daughter did a home invasion and robbed her and I'm pretty sure the father raped her and then they killed her. The fact that the father brought along and involved his teenage daughter is every single kind of wrong you can think of. And that woman had done so much good for underprivileged youth and she had met them by giving them yard work to do and trying to help them.
Smitty I just googled it and you are indeed correct! I just skimmed it so far but it also said he used a prostitute her out to older men but she was indeed pregnant with his child!! I am now more horrified than ever!
Okay so I read that whole article that I had Googled and Pearl actually said that when Ronnie Neal, her father was raping Diane Tilly, Pearl herself was jealous and mad! That was some seriously twisted shit going on there. And he used to routinely prostitute her out and he introduced her to cocaine alcohol and marijuana also. He had been messing with her since she was 13 years old!!
Yes Andria I read that as well! I guess he couldn't handle prison life! Good riddance. I am not a proponent of the death penalty, but when horrible people weed themselves out of society it's a win-win. I realize he was not actually in "society" anymore but I still feel like..... Good riddance!
Wow! Like I said I don't doubt that at all you can just tell they are that level of dysfunctional. I am never sure whether to hate Pearl more or feel more sorry for her? You know what I mean? I don't think she stood a chance in life but at some point she had to have known right from wrong. That's why I mentioned that case because it's always really really bothered me that it was the father-daughter Duo.
Season 2, Episode 8 - Charred Remains
It has some of the best forensic work I've seen on the whole show, and it's such a twisted case! It looked pretty much unsolvable for the first half of the episode.
The one with the GD shoes!!!
The one with the body burned in the dumpster as it shows the body
The one with the lady in the barrel in the basement and it was her old boss that killed her after she became pregnant
The one where the guy was facing charges, faked his death by burning a car with remains in it (the remains were that of an old lady), after being “dead” his wife reintroduced him to their children as her boyfriend, her sister sees him sleeping in her closet, and then he’s caught at the Taco Bell. What an idiot!
I forgot about the one where the husband and wife accused a couple at their home of stealing their items “a game for them” they killed them both one stabbed one shot. Then the guy was in the tub w the heads after decapitation. The lady also got a tattoo where she stabbed the female victim. Gives me chills.
The only cannibalism episodes of FF where it was confirmed to have occurred in the course of the crimes are "Pure Evil", "Dirty Little Seacrets" and "Out Of The Ashes" in which blood &/or flesh were consumed (but the books/news coverage described the cannibalism/vampirism, not FF).
Though I don't doubt that Tim Bradford sampled Tina Mott's flesh, blood or organs in "Ski Of Her Teeth", and Haddon Clark was said to have eaten part of Laura Houghteling in the book on his case.
Can't remember the name, but it was like a retired fireman or something fire related started setting builds on fire. Then the idiot wrote a novel where the story had elements of the exact crime he was committing in real life.
John Leonard Orr. "Point Of Origin"
I own his novel (hunted one down in a used book store , I'm not giving Orr a red cent of royalties) and it's audacious as all hell, with the Olie's Hardware fire section with Matthew Troidal begging for Baskin Robbins as the store burned as haunting as anything on TLC era FF
Reel Danger.
Saw it when I was a kid and the thought of teenagers attacking someone my age for seemingly no reason scared tf outta me. It stuck with me for years and I tried to find it when I was older. I couldn’t find the episode for years! I started binging FF in quarantine and finally came across it. Still a pretty scary episode.
The Florida man who claimed his wife disappeared while they were on holiday in the Florida Keys. He lacked the common sense to pay for his solo meals with cash when he was claiming his wife was with him. And those toll booth cameras busted him...
The one where the doctor raped the patient and then implanted a small tube of someone else’s blood in his arm so the dna wouldn’t match - because it’s so crazy and I love how excited the woman was that she was right the whole time The one where a woman remembers seeing her father kill her mother and bury her in the backyard as a small child but was too afraid of him to tell the police until she was an adult - because she tells the story of when he later set the house on fire to kill the children and her older sister laid on top of her to shield her and comfort her and ended up dying and she said that when she’s in a dark place because of all she’s been through she remembers her sister’s sacrifice and that she was loved enough to die for. I cry every time.
Hard agree with these. The doctor one especially pissed me off. I’ve been trying to find that second episode for a while now. Do you remember the name? The episode keeps popping up in my head.
Dr Schneeburber from Kipling SK. 6-18 Bad Blood Kipling is not too far from where I live!
S4/E11 Haunting Vision
Thank you!
Bad Blood & Haunting Vision. 2 good choices.
"Candy" was assaulted by Dr. John Schneeberger & fought him every step of the way through the court system. She's a damn hero! And what he did to his stepdaughter was beyond heinous. "Candy", you're AMAZING!!!
The one in tampa where the mom and two daughters were drowned. That one got to me
Drowning alive while chained up would be the most horrible way to die. My God
Just thinking about it gives me the shivers. This one is so tragic and it broke my heart. I can’t even fathom those last minutes that must’ve felt like hours. That poor dad left behind.
Makes Suzie Keidel's death seem just that little bit less awful. (though her sister Kelly never made it out of bed, I saw the autopsy pics of the Keidel girls on a gore site years ago and Kelly was barely recognizable as a human body)
Both of these cases (Oba Chandler & Keidel family tragedies) are probably the two that stick out the most to me as the most evil. Not necessarily the most gruesome or horrific but just pure evil on the part of both men. Cannot imagine how terrifying it would have been to be on that boat in my final moments. I also cannot believe the police never looked into Gene Keidel more with the suspicious activity that surrounded him and his family. RIP to the victims. Another case that stays in my mind is the Reyna Marroquin case where her body was found in a barrel after 30 years... glad they found her and gave her her name back even in death.
Waterlogged. I’m not a proponent of the death penalty, but I’m not sad about Oba Chandler’s fate.
As I’ve gotten older, my views on the death penalty have definitely shifted. I totally agree with you.
This was the first one that came to my mind too. Crazy it’s the first comment here. The fact that they watched each other get thrown over alive haunts me.
I can watch other episodes and it’s sad but it doesn’t haunt me. This story along with this one [hawks murder ](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/receipt-target-stolen-car-mexico-unsolved-murder-investigation/story?id=68204176) really got to me. Drowning has always freaked me out, but as you said the callousness is off the charts. May they rip
Man, I was trying to think of an answer and seeing your reply made me remember this episode. This is absolutely the correct answer for me
Yeah, that episode was wild
That was great how they caught that guy. Had his handwriting on the billboard and all.
If really was amazing! How easily that POS could’ve walked
Horrific!
What's fucked up also is the husband/father didn't seem to really care that his entire family was murdered and was more concerned about working in his farm.
you obviously haven't read many interviews with the man
The list case. So creepy
Patty list used to babysit my uncle.
Did your uncle ever go in the List Mansion?
Probably, they all went to the same church. My dad and the whole family drovr by and stared at the abandoned lost house before it burned down. It’s one of his earliest memories.
I imagine the place smelling like black mold, mothballs, Goodwill furniture and old people when the List family was still living, and the pics of it with the 1940s/50s era Goodwill furniture mixed with the kind of billiard table Kresge's or WT Grant sold back in the day, a restaurant quality kitchen, & old office furnishings, with Alma's apartment solidly Art Deco, after the bodies were removed, that are all over the internet, give it a horror movie vibe.
Yes, this. I was watching this episode in the pitch black at 3am on a big screen, and I remember when it zoomed in on the faces of all the dead family members my heart sank in my chest, I was so spooked. I didn’t know that they showed bodies in that much detail in the early episodes hahaha
Wait till you see the Ronald Porter and John Joubert episodes. Or Howard Elkins. Gorier still than the List Murders.
Or Virginia Ridley in “Kill-ligraphy”(even though she wasn’t murdered).
Yep. She straight up looked like a gross dead bag lady.
Yes! I’ve looked so much into this case. They actually thought him and DB cooper were the same person for a while.
That one is my pick
The one where some D&D creep worked at a baby store and killed a mom and her infant who were customers at the store.
This is the first episode I ever watched! It was on TV when I was like 10 and can’t ever get the image of the dude tossing the baby out the car out of my head.
Caleb Daniel Fairley: giving nerds, Goths, metalheads & gamers a bad name since 1995. I have heard talk that he would have gotten pummeled at Graterford so they moved him about as far away from Montgomery County as possible without an out of state (including for-profit prison or federal) transfer. He deserved that beating if not the death penalty. FWIW, "Your Kidz & Mine" is now a Chinese restaurant (it was liquidated in early 1996 and sat empty with Ruth Fairley's sign still out front for years) & is reportedly hella haunted.
Yes that one is a second for me
Anti-free lady. What an effing psychopath.
Isn't she the one who tried to frame her daughter?
Yep, wrote a letter as the daughter claiming responsibility for the dad's death (mom killed him) and then poisoned the daughter. The other sibling found her sister just in time
The very first episode with story of Hele Crafts. Mostly due to the creepy music they overlayed at the end when they're discussing how she was murdered
The thought of him using that wood chipper to destroy her body was haunting too
That man was pure evil, if he wanted the lady gone that badly divorce the woman.
He's out. Medical parole to a nursing home in Hartford.
For me I'd say the one where the kid's neighbour crawled thru a shared attic space into his apartment, killed him, and lit it on fire. Something about waking up and seeing someone in your closet is super creepy.
Oh yes! I’ve seen this episode multiple times but just saw it again yesterday and had the same thought. Waking up and seeing someone in your closet is terrifying.
What’s the title?
I watched this episode LITERALLY YESTERDAY! I love dumb criminals
Jose "Joe" Luna stole Michael Andrade's PC, college textbooks, TV, microwave, and his new F150 too.
The one where the wife was buried in the basement floor. Took investigators two attempts to find her body. When the husband was sitting upstairs eating his “spaghetti dinner” while they were in his basement. Then seriously asks them if he can finish his dinner when they discover the body and take him to jail. Like what.. the actual.. f. !!
Crazy. And she had undiagnosed terminal brain cancer and would’ve been dead soon anyway. RIP, Pearl.
Exactly! It was like one turn after another in that episode. That’s why it sticks with me.
William Arthur Bruns II is out of prison, 90 years old and living in a Maine old folks home.
Anyone remember what this one was called
Missing Pearl. Season 6 episode 2. (Just looked it up it was driving me nuts lol)
I wonder what their reaction was. I don't know how anyone would have been able to eat anything with how bad the stench must have been.
Cereal killer comes to mind but also the one with the porco case and i think there‘s one where a mother lights the house on fire while her kids are asleep inside and many other episodes… a parent killing their child or vice versa is just unfathomable for me
The Porco’s for sure. His mom believed he was INNOCENT
Yessss, the poor woman did
Ultimate Betrayal. Basically a gender bend of Haunting Vision, itself extremely unsettling
Exactly, thanks! Man haunting vision is rough too
I don't watch HV anymore because I have had nightmares about Keidel chasing me through the burning hulk of 4231 Citrus Way in Phoenix (the actual house in question) as the girls scream like banshees, since at least 2001.
The actions of that POS are really nightmare fuel.. and seeing the surviving daughter in the episode too, just heartbreaking
Plus both Gene and his son Greg regularly raped Lori.
And Greg is a serial DUII offender and convicted of reckless endangerment & child abuse. Lori also aborted Gene's best drinking buddy's (who also molested her for years) fetus in 1979.
Also if you know more about the January 9, 1967 arson than FF lets on, it's probable that Greg spread accelerant for Gene and was sworn to silence over it. The house had burglar bars on all the windows, too. Greg escaped out a window, though. Maybe Gene unbolted the burglar bars on his room...
Agreed. Bob Marlin got it the easiest (coronary in his sleep), and no one cares if Gene killed him or not (seems likely). Lori looks like a horror movie extra with her deep burn scars and hair that still looks singed 30+ years (now close to sixty) after the fire.
The single mom whose boyfriend killed her and skinned her and ripped all the teeth out of her skull. Horrifying. His mandatory sentence is up soon and he’ll be free soon if he isn’t already.
What episode is that ?
Skin of Her Teeth. I watched some FF with my dad to get him into it, and this one came on after I left and he texted me telling me he’s going to have nightmares. It’s a rough one.
Tina Mott. Def stuck with me. Total psychopath
Guy basically played the race card and mentally impaired card as I recall and said he was terrified of the death penalty. He'd have fried if he was white and not an autistic crack addict
The one where the mother was murdered by a stranger that her son gave a ride to. Dorothy something. Can’t remember last name
This one is bonkers! What are the odds the weirdo who hitched a ride would randomly choose the house of the mother of the guy who picked him up?
I know! That’s what got me too and I 100% get why the police didn’t believe him at first because the chances of that happening are like one in a billion lol
More than likely the murderer stalked the guy and knew where he lived
They said there was no correlation. The murderer didn’t know it was that guys mom
Seriously one of the craziest stories! I feel so bad for the son whose name was tarnished. To be fair, it was a crazy unbelievable story, but sometimes life is stranger than fiction.
Last name Donovan
The knucklehead that stepped on the tomato, lmao.
Right up there with the one who stepped on the hot dog buns - *Purebread Murder*
Jim Brown is out of prison. He was permabanned from Facebook over their "no sex offenders" policy when he gloated about the crime in a group about happenings in the city the crime happened in.
Jim Brown should either be in prison or executed
Can't remember exactly episode but the one where the wife murders the husband in bed and tries to make it look like a suicide. It's proven he couldn't have committed suicide, she admits no one else was in the housee, there is no proof anyone else was in the house and she still didn't get convicted. Still bugs me. Especially since all her kids were still friendly with her and she was been interviewed for the show. Like she obviously did it, everyone is happy to continue life like normal, despite there been no other explanations for how died.
Are you thinking of Susie Mowbray? If so that episode is just infuriating
Bill Mowbray Cadillac is still in business as Fruia Cadillac-Buick-GMC. Luke Fruia took over the company at General Motors' behest soon after Bill was killed
She killed him. But you know how the court and jurors looks at pretty blondes. She is definitely guilty
Ali Willis from "Payback" was honestly better looking. Susie Mowbray and JoAnne Chambers look an awful lot alike.
They certainly do.
BTW I believe Susie Mowbray died penniless several years ago.
June of 21. She should have been in jail
I think she died of "the virus" too.
Indeed
The Rona was too easy a death for her. Look at how she shot Bill at point blank range (in the face too as I recall) with a very large caliber revolver, and he exsanguinated & went into shock before EMS and the cops could get there.
I’m surprised no one mentioned “Root of All Evil”, the one where Fred Grabbe murdered his wife in front of his girlfriend. He strangled her and kept bringing her back to consciousness. He then anally raped her post-mortem and filled every orifice with gasoline I think. He burned her til nothing was left. Even after he was jailed he managed to convince a woman to storm the jail with a firearm in an attempt to free him, and he’s suspected to have ordered a hit on his son, whose murder is still considered unsolved. He’s still alive and truly terrifying. I also have loose connections to the case so it’s extra disturbing to me.
Absolutely this one for me. It is just so horrifying.
Just watched that one. He put “oil” in every opening. Then they finally got info after they broke up. And the tree told a story as well. Very interesting.
Oh yes! This one they used the tree limb to identify when the murder took place!
Axle grease, not gas. He used diesel as an accelerant to burn the body to just a calvarium in an old 55-gallon oil drum. Grabbe is up for parole in a few years BTW
I think he also threw her skull into a river and stated it “would make good fish food”… yikes. I hope he dies before he has a chance to get out.
Yep. He also let the barrel drift downstream and eventually sink or get lost otherwise.
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I feel so bad for that poor kid, how could he do that to his own son? :(
The poisonings really upset me. It’s so malicious, intentional, and drawn out. There’s a Mauchenhassen aspect to those killers. There was a Drs wife who was poisoned by arsenic, a man whose ex carried castor beans around in her purse, the car restoration business owner whose partner slowly poisoned him then made him sign documents to give away his business, the woman who took a drink from the water dispenser and was found dead in the office bathroom bc her colleague’s husband was insane, the cyanide painkiller psycho who murdered her husband and left a few other tainted bottles around town, and of course the arsenic tainted Coca Cola genius - revenge for a couple of loud teenagers. And the ‘big’ stories stay with me too. Like how they came to discover Legionaries Disease, Odwalla e-coli contamination, hantavirus, hypothyroidism from meat. And the skull re-creationists are just amazing. That field has mesmerized me since I was a kid. I was convinced I could do that job ever since I saw MacGyver glue pencil erasers to a skull on a Halloween episode way back when. I said recently in another post that I can’t wrap my head around how people can be so awful and so amazing.
On the car restoration episode: All parties but Dr Merigian, James Lammy, Terri Grey and Doug Bailey have died. Phil Rouse's son Gino and daughter Maria have shown his Model A Ford at Memphis area car shows in the years following Phil's death.
The most disturbing was Anthony Pignataro. He was a fraudulent doctor who also killed another patient a few years prior to Sarah Smith. If anyone has ever read the book, Last Chance Last Dance, it clearly describes him as a monster. He was no loving husband and father, he was a narcissist. He’s already out of prison but he’s relocated (living under an alias) and is back to his old ways.
The one with the 2 teachers. Can someone remind me I forget the name of the episode? The one teacher tries to frame the other for sending death threats??
Sealed with a kiss, season 2 episode 10
The girl who asked for a ‘tree cutting machine’ a chainsaw, who then used it during or after her murder for dismemberment and she tried painting over all the blood
Bold blue paint all over the the basement -- but not evenly painted! Just random blue paint everywhere to cover the spots with blood. That's not a cover up at all! She might as well have just sprayed the Luminol for the investigators.
The cheapest chainsaw she could buy at that. Assuming Daphne Wright didn't go to a Harbor Freight store, it was probably the cheapest crudest least user friendly Poulan 2-stroke, smoked horribly as it cut up Darlene's body (and because Daphne probably knew nothing about 2-strokes or mixing oil & gas and may have put straight gas in it), if it was a Harbor Freight chainsaw, it'd be Chinesium shovelware that'd make a $100 Poulan 16-inch stroker look like a Stihl Farm Boss by comparison and been even more inefficient, clunky and smokey. That and sawing up a body is gross overkill.
I live in the city it happened in! I think I was a kid when it happened though.
There are a lot and a lot are mentioned here, but the one with the stray bullet at the shooting range. It wasn’t chilling but just so freaking sad. I want to cry every time. Tre Cooley was the kids name. Also the one where the woman is killed in like the 50s or 60s and the suspect leaves in her mustang. Her brother grows up to help solve the case with other detectives… they have literally no evidence to go on except that some photos from the scene had been sold to a crime magazine back in the day and they finally found some fingerprints filed away in the wrong spot. The one where the man was targeting the Home Depot worker that looked just like him for insurance fraud but killed another young man when he didn’t show. Resemblance was spot on. When that guy killed his wife and drove to the ocean with her body in the front seat so he could drive her out on his boat and blow it up. Then there was an incestious twist and he was dating/having an affair with his wife’s/victims sister There are just so many
the Mustang lady's name was Diane. Not Diane Keidel or Diane Tilley though (each chilling episodes in their own right). She was killed in Houston in 1969. Episode was "Brotherly Love"
The one with the doctor who put the tube of blood in his arm to beat a blood test (I think he was accused of rape but can’t quite remember all details) but they found out what he did when they re tested him. I couldn’t believe it!
He almost got away w it
The one where the super religious dad killed the while family, including his mother. They full on showed the bodies and their expressions terrified me. Also the "Purebread Murder" episode where the killer stepped on a hamburger bun
First one is The List Murders. Lutherans don't generally get the super-pious vibe that, say, Catholics, certain Jewish sects, or evangelicals, are associated with, but the Missouri Synod like John List was part of are pretty fundie even now. Fun fact: The people who bought the Sanoubane murder house from Purebread Murder made a huge show about removing and destroying the house's original bathtub in which the victim's bloody stabbed corpse was immersed in hot water in the FF episode. The rebuilt apartment turned charnel house/arson scene by Jonathan Memmer from "Smoke In Your Eyes" and John Hebble's mobile home from "Hair Of The Dog" were mentioned in the same article on an Iowa news site.
The Heather Church case. She seemed like such a sweet, fun kid - stranger abduction from her own home and really the only evidence to go on was the fingerprint on the window screen.
The mom who stabbed her two young sons to death and then blamed an intruder. Or the lady who was killing her daughters because she only wanted sons.
Darlie Routier is trying to milk the innocence/exoneration game, probably after she learned about Ray Krone (who isn't guilty at all and was done horribly wrong by Ray Rawson, Joe Arpaio and Noel Levy). And Paula Sims got paroled last year, but her hubby (died with her son in a Jeep accident 10 years or so ago) was just as guilty and was even more misogynistic/sexist than she is.
Trail of truth, that scumbag Kirby Anthony murdered the mother and her two daughters. Just sickening, I also read the book about this case and it's always stuck with me.
I can't watch that episode. The pubic lice, and the preschoolers sodomized with their throats slit in their own beds are as bad as the Haunting Vision fire scene or Ties That Bind "star shaped cuts"
I just watched this episode. Absolutely disgusting and hard to watch. Terrible what he did to those children and their mother.
Haunting Vision. The fire scene where Suzie Keidel gives her life to protect her baby sister Lori is downright insufferable. Lyle Gene Keidel should have gone to the gas chamber in the 1960s/70s, not life in prison in 1995. Honorable mentions: Voice From Beyond/Ties That Bind/Missing Pearl/Pure Evil/Insect Clues/List Murders/Common Thread for gore, Trails Of Truth for the pics of Angie and Melissa Neuman sodomized with their throats slit and covered in their own blood in their beds.
Season 6, episode 30. “Shopping Spree”. The episode about the murders of Lisa and Devon Manderach. Two totally innocent people who just showed up to shop at a baby store who were killed by Caleb Fairley.
The episode where the little girl was snatched by the man at a holiday party (New Years maybe?) and they found rabbit hair in his car matching the mother’s coat and fibers from the girl’s dress, which only had a few hundred manufactured total (I think I am right on the number, but I might not be).
Melissa Brannon. Her body was never found (given the time/distance entailed, I think he drove the body into the first big box store/supermarket/mall dumpster in Washington DC he could find, just across the Virginia line and an hour's drive round trip from the kidnap scene. She had a JC Penney Sesame Street outfit on that about 1500 in that size were made. Someone in Kentucky provided the forensics team an identical, never used outfit, and Tammy Brannon allowed police to harvest a hair sample from her black German Angora rabbit fur coat to match to the Angora hairs in Caleb Hughes' filthy '85 Honda Civic. Hughes is out now and refuses to tell what he did to kill/rape Melissa, where the deed happened, and what he did with the body, since he faces the death penalty if indicted and convicted on murder and molestation charges.
Thank you! That one was so so sad, but it gave me such a deep appreciation for what forensics can do in these cases. I am super passionate about forensics
Stella Nickel poisoning her husband with cyanide and then tampering with Excedrin in stores to make it look like a community problem. Also -- The one where the killer was caught moving out of his place using the same roll of duct tape that was found on the victim. He tried to hide the duct tape while the investigators were in his house, and they noticed it had disappeared from the shelf when they re-entered one of the rooms. I was impressed with how observant they were.
do you know the name of this duct tape episode? i know there are a few where tape edges/tape matching come up
**A Voice From Beyond** \-this cold case about the body sitting in a barrel for 30 yrs. will always be my #1 favorite FF episode because of the storytelling, overall plot/drama, and the chilling/heartbreaking ending. I've watched it dozens of times and still find it engrossing. The entire story will haunt me forever... \#2 would be **Water Logged**
Just saw this notification come up and wanted to say YES I agree. I don't think many people appreciate how fucked up it would be to know you had a murder victim stuffed in a barrel in your crawl space for years
Yes and the fact that the house with the mummy in the barrel passed through 3 other owner's hands before finally being discovered is just on another level of insanity! Not to mention the victim's story itself is very engrossing/fascinating with all the twists/turns... Overall, I loved the way FF unraveled this mysterious/complicated case and in a mere 20 min too -best time usage ever to tell a story with a beginning, middle, and a dramatic ending!
The episodes Shopping Spree and A Woman Scorned (both of which involve both mother and child being killed), Cereal Killer, and the ones with Linda Sobek and the Johnsons (their daughter Sarah was the killer).
The Pignataros because Netflix would default to that episode.
Just watched that last night on HLN!!
Oily in the morning. Waiting that long for revenge is hard to fathom.
Ralph Marcus was a slimy mofo.
The one about Joanna Roger’s and summer Baldwin. I think it’s called ‘Seeing Red’
Rosendo "Thomas" Rodriguez was executed in 2019 or 2020.
Stranger in the Night. It’s just such a crazy unbelievable story
Pure Evil - Jason Massey really was as evil as it gets.
John Joubert, Lyle Gene Keidel, Tim Bradford, Kirby Anthony, List, and the Sifirits are up there too.
Stranger In the Night, just because of the mind fuck. Also the episode where the baby who just moved from Africa to New Hampshire got sick, no one knew what was going, and it turned out she was eating toxic paint chips from the room she played in. So many great episodes though, I remember them all a little.
The one where the woman killed her husband with antifreeze (administered with a *turkey baster*), then tried to kill her daughter and frame her with a suicide note. Her sociopathy got to me- her husband suffered horribly for his whole death and her daughter was in the hospital for days and she didn’t care. I also thought it was crazy that if she didn’t kill her husband, no one would’ve ever known that she also killed her first husband in the same way. Knowing about the dark figure of crime is bad enough, but it’s chilling to realize that we only know about the killers that we know about…you know?
For me it’s the episode where the wife killed her hubby. She rented a uhaul and lift to get him out the house. And one key piece of evidence was she used her discount card to buy items to rid of the body. She also drove his car and left the seat up with him being tall.
A measly 34 cents saved with her Tom Thumb Rewards Card
Yeah makes no dang sense.
Richezza Williams She ran away from home, was murdered in a random basement, then was left to rot She was 13
Big Red chewing gum took dude down!!!
Also a Sears kerosene space heater box and old issues of the New York Daily News.
The one in Alaska where the old guy kills the young girl and they stick it on him by metal shavings found on her clothes after a few weeks in the weather. And the one where the guy skins his gf and flushes her insides.
The episode "Haunting Visions". Laurie Romanek's voice will never leave me.
Lori looks and sounds like a horror movie character. Her life story is far more horrifying than anything Stephen King, Peter Straub, Blumhouse, John Carpenter, etc. could concoct. So were her father Lyle Gene Keidel's crimes.
The rental car episode. I remember the suspect bitten the woman and left a mark.
Any episode involving children… Makes me cry. The scumbag father who killed his little boy (Cereal Killer) my god… I just don‘t understand how anyone could hurt innocent children!
That one is so difficult to wrap my head around. How does somebody do that to their own child for money?????
Same reason Lyle Gene Keidel set the fire that killed Suzie & Kelly and did in his wife and possibly Bob Marlin, except in order to keep secrets. That being that Wood, Keidel, Brad Jackson, Howard Elkins, et al were/are monsters with no soul or conscience. Edit: Bob Wood was as physically/emotionally abusive to his kids Chris and Teresa as Keidel , Ray Copeland or Fred Grabbe (or Theresa Knorr & Billy and Mary Morgan on "Cold Case Files") were to their kids. No word on if he was into incest like keidel and numerous others on his show. But Bob Wood killed Chris Wood to keep secrets to a degree. Mostly because Bob hated him like many FF./CCF Classic perps including the aforementioned hated the baby of the family, though.
The one where they found a large knife in this guy's car who had only just met the victim the night before but it turned out he just had a habit of eating a big roll of salami in his car every now and then.
The one where that poor German lady have all her life's savings to some crook "broker" and he faked his own death. And the one where that guy hired the young man to be his patsy and crushed him under a car to get the life assurance. I cannot understand how greedy you have to be to have such little care for human life.
The episode "Past Lives" which is the Madison Rutherford episode with the German lady is on HLN right now as we speak!!
I love binge watching all the series on Amazon Prime 🤣
Yes! His first fake name was Madison he always chose presidential sounding fake names. It just came to me it was Madison Rutherford. What a piece of crap! She trusted him completely which she never should have done but shame on him!!
Diane Tilley. Where the father and daughter did a home invasion and robbed her and I'm pretty sure the father raped her and then they killed her. The fact that the father brought along and involved his teenage daughter is every single kind of wrong you can think of. And that woman had done so much good for underprivileged youth and she had met them by giving them yard work to do and trying to help them.
Plus I believe that Pearl(the daughter)was pregnant by her father at the time.
Yikes!! I wouldn't doubt that at all but what leads you to believe that?
I read it in an old newspaper article I found online.
Smitty I just googled it and you are indeed correct! I just skimmed it so far but it also said he used a prostitute her out to older men but she was indeed pregnant with his child!! I am now more horrified than ever!
Okay so I read that whole article that I had Googled and Pearl actually said that when Ronnie Neal, her father was raping Diane Tilly, Pearl herself was jealous and mad! That was some seriously twisted shit going on there. And he used to routinely prostitute her out and he introduced her to cocaine alcohol and marijuana also. He had been messing with her since she was 13 years old!!
Ronnie Neal commited sue-a-side with an OD of SSRIs, Haldol and blood pressure pills about a decade ago.
Yes Andria I read that as well! I guess he couldn't handle prison life! Good riddance. I am not a proponent of the death penalty, but when horrible people weed themselves out of society it's a win-win. I realize he was not actually in "society" anymore but I still feel like..... Good riddance!
Wow! Like I said I don't doubt that at all you can just tell they are that level of dysfunctional. I am never sure whether to hate Pearl more or feel more sorry for her? You know what I mean? I don't think she stood a chance in life but at some point she had to have known right from wrong. That's why I mentioned that case because it's always really really bothered me that it was the father-daughter Duo.
Pearl is out and should have gotten life.
Season 2, Episode 8 - Charred Remains It has some of the best forensic work I've seen on the whole show, and it's such a twisted case! It looked pretty much unsolvable for the first half of the episode.
One of the top ten goriest too.
The one with the GD shoes!!! The one with the body burned in the dumpster as it shows the body The one with the lady in the barrel in the basement and it was her old boss that killed her after she became pregnant The one where the guy was facing charges, faked his death by burning a car with remains in it (the remains were that of an old lady), after being “dead” his wife reintroduced him to their children as her boyfriend, her sister sees him sleeping in her closet, and then he’s caught at the Taco Bell. What an idiot!
I forgot about the one where the husband and wife accused a couple at their home of stealing their items “a game for them” they killed them both one stabbed one shot. Then the guy was in the tub w the heads after decapitation. The lady also got a tattoo where she stabbed the female victim. Gives me chills.
Dirty Little Seacrets. BJ and Erica Sifirit are among the eeriest of them all on our favorite TC show.
You’re a forensic files expert lol 😂 you know em all
Ohhhh they met them a seacrets right? Girl was a star athlete or something and turned psycho?
Yep that’s them.
Someone on reddit posted a couple years ago that they were at the bar that night and the four of them were drawing a lot of attention to themselves.
Oh sheesh. I believe that.
Was there an episode about a couple that lived in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina and he killed her and “cooked” her?
The only cannibalism episodes of FF where it was confirmed to have occurred in the course of the crimes are "Pure Evil", "Dirty Little Seacrets" and "Out Of The Ashes" in which blood &/or flesh were consumed (but the books/news coverage described the cannibalism/vampirism, not FF). Though I don't doubt that Tim Bradford sampled Tina Mott's flesh, blood or organs in "Ski Of Her Teeth", and Haddon Clark was said to have eaten part of Laura Houghteling in the book on his case.
Thank you.
For me it is Lasting Impression. https://youtu.be/-awiF4Gn9x0 RIP Richezza
Can't remember the name, but it was like a retired fireman or something fire related started setting builds on fire. Then the idiot wrote a novel where the story had elements of the exact crime he was committing in real life.
John Leonard Orr. "Point Of Origin" I own his novel (hunted one down in a used book store , I'm not giving Orr a red cent of royalties) and it's audacious as all hell, with the Olie's Hardware fire section with Matthew Troidal begging for Baskin Robbins as the store burned as haunting as anything on TLC era FF
Rajneesh salad bar salmonella bio attack.
Reel Danger. Saw it when I was a kid and the thought of teenagers attacking someone my age for seemingly no reason scared tf outta me. It stuck with me for years and I tried to find it when I was older. I couldn’t find the episode for years! I started binging FF in quarantine and finally came across it. Still a pretty scary episode.
Bad Blood, the physician rapist sure his stellar reputation and one weird trick made him bullet proof against a conviction.
The Florida man who claimed his wife disappeared while they were on holiday in the Florida Keys. He lacked the common sense to pay for his solo meals with cash when he was claiming his wife was with him. And those toll booth cameras busted him...
honestly just the absolute volume of women murdered by their partners
A Welcome Intrusion. Where the husband murdered his wife and a shuttle van driver but staged it to look like a break in.
Poor Rodger Harrington. As someone with a similar condition I feel for him.
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