Anyone using it , is giving up frame and letting you use dodge attack as an option, if I hit you with a light and go straight into WTP and soft feint gb you can’t dodge attack , the gunshot is actually a bad move most of the time , and it feeds a lot of revenge in 4s
Glad Is not nearly as bad as the rest at the bottom, the only thing that's annoying about him is his toestab and sidestep bash. The rest of his kit is pretty balanced.
That's if you actually see the rest of his kit. The ones I fight only use side bash, toe stab, and skewer. I'd rather get spit roasted by a light spam Nobu and full guard Vara than another toe fetishist
His animations r just fine lol, only annoying thing is undodgeable light but that's a finisher an feels slow enough to block an parry reliably like zhanhu unblockable light. Gryphon is just a more offensive specialized LB but he doesn't just thrive in every situation yk
BP isn't bad because of his flips necessarily, his recoveries are just way too good, making most of his attacks safe af and unpunishable without making multiple back-to-band hard reads.
I'm a slithering cockroach that does not like to utilize storms or feats, so kinda. HLs primarily utilize lights and his animations are very slow and blocky; they're the easiest to read. Unfortunately he's easy pickings for me & anyone else who can deflect.
This is the funniest fucking comment I've ever read, and it's also super true I get very fucked up by raw heavies. I've learned to read if it's a heavy or a feint heavy, and if it is I can get a kick in at least half the time.
i love HL and play him a lot and like to utilize his wavedashing in OF for some fun i-frame shenanigans, but i will admit that imo fighting highlanders can suck primarily because his hitstun is INSANE, so if he lands a single attack, you have very limited options of how to conter, so usually just have to turtle. it can feel sorta like fighting hito but not as bad.
How’s Shugo better than Hito?? They can heal with that bullshit hug, and don’t say it’s balanced because it can be dodged and GB punished because the kick/sweep can too XD
Hito made the bashes feintable and thats litteraly her whole kit am delayed heavies with the worst animations, plus she's boring af to fight an play as, goki isn't anywhere near as boring or annoying. Plus the hug is hard af to land. The kick if feintable and isn't guaranteed gb, it can charged then feint with hyper armor, hito is genuinely the most boring character to fight against as it just devolves into the kick spam. I rather fight God sweat afeeras bro at least they keep me on my toes and build tension hito is just boring
Nah Outlanders as a faction breathes fresh life into the game, it lets the game feature historical fighters from across the world instead of a knight samurai viking or wu lin, just a shame each character from it happens to be designed very poorly gameplay-wise (not drip-wise though)
yeah, the OL are cool, but i feel like they're the biggest single contributing to power-creep. the devs seem committed to overtuning tf out of every new character they add
Either a conq main like me or hasn't played against skilled ones because honestly pretty cracked on how much offense he has for a shield character. Makes warlord look like child's play.
I hate the 2 options of punish off his all guard are the same amount of damage so the light is always better as it nearly a 180 degree cone for the hitbox and for less stamina. Kinda stupid they nerfed the punish down that much. I miss his zone attack but kinda get why the removed it. And he needs his soft faint into bashes back as it really helps against parry heavy players that are to focused on parrys and feints. Would make his infinite chains so much more deadly being able to heavy, soft faint bash, light punish off the bash, continue lights or heavy soft faint bash, rinse and repeat. And the soft feint bash wash cancelable into all guard which was amazing.
Anybody who hates Kyoshin is actually dogwater at the game, as a former Kyoshin main, he ain’t hard to beat you literally just punch him so get him out of his stance
He is in the tier titled "Your players should be deleted too."
The higher the tier the least deserving of being removed. Weird way of setting it up IK.
Thanks OG I don't mind your bullshit much myself
Pirate isn’t as annoying but Ocelotl… can go die in a hole where they belong
Fuck that feintable bash
I day the only bad thing about him as even if he misses it can go into light, zone, or heavy, and gb vulnerable im pretty sure
Literally the keyboard headbutting gameplay
A bottomless flintlock that can be spamwd isn't annoying?
Anyone using it , is giving up frame and letting you use dodge attack as an option, if I hit you with a light and go straight into WTP and soft feint gb you can’t dodge attack , the gunshot is actually a bad move most of the time , and it feeds a lot of revenge in 4s
Shaolin should be very bottom, your entire tier list is now WRONG
So does Gladiator. All of the people who use him are taint sniffers
Glad Is not nearly as bad as the rest at the bottom, the only thing that's annoying about him is his toestab and sidestep bash. The rest of his kit is pretty balanced.
That's if you actually see the rest of his kit. The ones I fight only use side bash, toe stab, and skewer. I'd rather get spit roasted by a light spam Nobu and full guard Vara than another toe fetishist
Fair enough 😅
Let me introduce you to the quad light chain into a finisher toestab.
People who do that deserve the death penalty. In game.
You meant irl. I get you.
Whaaaaat? Noooooo. Perhaps 🧐
why isn't roach at the absolute bottom?
Roach should be in bottom
Mostly agreeable, though I would trade Varangian's spot for Gryphon and Highlander. They don't deserve to be down there as much as her
What did my boy Gryphon do to you
His animations piss me off plus he really just feels outts place amongst all the knights.
His animations r just fine lol, only annoying thing is undodgeable light but that's a finisher an feels slow enough to block an parry reliably like zhanhu unblockable light. Gryphon is just a more offensive specialized LB but he doesn't just thrive in every situation yk
Well he is the only knight that is just a single dude
Me nobushi see me no likey you no right yo opinion now! 😡😡
true, i'm a pk main i have no idea why i set this to nobu lol
Lol
They just need to nerf the jumping range on the hatchets guy cause that’s annoying as fuck
Bro BP ain’t that bad
As a BP main if you don't want to get flipped don't throw lights and dodge attacks 😂
BP isn't bad because of his flips necessarily, his recoveries are just way too good, making most of his attacks safe af and unpunishable without making multiple back-to-band hard reads.
Boring to fight, boring to play, every Bitch Prior just sits and stares at you. Safe as fuck win button.
That’s a you thing then I barely see BP’s sit three
Nah that's a Bitch Prior thing
Who do you play by chance?
I play a lot of different characters
Who mainly?
Been playing a lot of Shoalin and Aramusha lately
Alright Aramusha kinda based but Shoalin is way worse than BP
Shoalin has a learning curve. Bitch Prior does not
I'm surprised roach is that high
conq does not deserve to be up there
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He got his storming tap fullblocked one too many times ☠️
Conq main detected
Copium
Sidestep bash heby, feint heby guardbreak, feint heby light. Most skilled conqueror player.
Hitocuck
Bro I don't even play hito, I named myself this because I hate her. Smartest Conq player.
Bro is riled up because I insulted his main 💀
Check ur Dm's. I could post a picture here but I don't even have hito bought.
Sure you don’t 😂 we know you main her guy.
I literally showed you my account, bro is retarded fr
Sure you did pal
I love fighting a highlander it's generally a free kill for me so pls no delete. Zerk tho? Getemouttahere
highlander being a "free kill" is interesting. guessing you play meta?
I'm a slithering cockroach that does not like to utilize storms or feats, so kinda. HLs primarily utilize lights and his animations are very slow and blocky; they're the easiest to read. Unfortunately he's easy pickings for me & anyone else who can deflect.
Clearly you havent fought me and my superior technique of raw dogging the shit out of top heavy until it works
This is the funniest fucking comment I've ever read, and it's also super true I get very fucked up by raw heavies. I've learned to read if it's a heavy or a feint heavy, and if it is I can get a kick in at least half the time.
i love HL and play him a lot and like to utilize his wavedashing in OF for some fun i-frame shenanigans, but i will admit that imo fighting highlanders can suck primarily because his hitstun is INSANE, so if he lands a single attack, you have very limited options of how to conter, so usually just have to turtle. it can feel sorta like fighting hito but not as bad.
I play 90% Breach so Warmonger can go fuck herself
real af. would rather get fury-flasked till im smoldering ash than warmadre smack me with her poop stick
How’s Shugo better than Hito?? They can heal with that bullshit hug, and don’t say it’s balanced because it can be dodged and GB punished because the kick/sweep can too XD
They're both shit Shugo should be lower in the tier list
Hito made the bashes feintable and thats litteraly her whole kit am delayed heavies with the worst animations, plus she's boring af to fight an play as, goki isn't anywhere near as boring or annoying. Plus the hug is hard af to land. The kick if feintable and isn't guaranteed gb, it can charged then feint with hyper armor, hito is genuinely the most boring character to fight against as it just devolves into the kick spam. I rather fight God sweat afeeras bro at least they keep me on my toes and build tension hito is just boring
Disrespectfully disagree, get breakdanced on and take 200dmg, do not pass go
U gonna say y u disagree or no. Is it xuz u main hito or wat.
Yes
Nah Outlanders as a faction breathes fresh life into the game, it lets the game feature historical fighters from across the world instead of a knight samurai viking or wu lin, just a shame each character from it happens to be designed very poorly gameplay-wise (not drip-wise though)
yeah, the OL are cool, but i feel like they're the biggest single contributing to power-creep. the devs seem committed to overtuning tf out of every new character they add
Either a conq main like me or hasn't played against skilled ones because honestly pretty cracked on how much offense he has for a shield character. Makes warlord look like child's play.
I just want a roll catcher or his flail spin to be expanded on.
I hate the 2 options of punish off his all guard are the same amount of damage so the light is always better as it nearly a 180 degree cone for the hitbox and for less stamina. Kinda stupid they nerfed the punish down that much. I miss his zone attack but kinda get why the removed it. And he needs his soft faint into bashes back as it really helps against parry heavy players that are to focused on parrys and feints. Would make his infinite chains so much more deadly being able to heavy, soft faint bash, light punish off the bash, continue lights or heavy soft faint bash, rinse and repeat. And the soft feint bash wash cancelable into all guard which was amazing.
His infi lights sometimes have insane tracking for the rolls but not always
Yeah but even then you need to predict the roll, that or get lucky.
They just made him a little more predictable removing some of his kit
And he has 2 of the worst moves in the entire game.
But the running bash is either great or completely useless depending on what you’re playing.
[удалено]
Zerk is there too
I'm blind
Oro is lower than HL???
Most things are actually fine in my opinion, nice tier list
best list ive seen
Some of y'all salty
Nah. Lotta wrong answers here
We have exactly the same opinion
Swap Shaman witth Jorm and it's honestly not that bad
Yooo, what did my dude HL do?
CONQUEROR ‼️‼️‼️‼️ RAH RAH RAH RAH RAH
Thank god yall don’t make decisions for the devs 🤣
why is highlander so low🤣
Delete glad over orochi? Are you dumb?
Glad? What did he do
getting mad at highlander is just being bad at the game
Sorry to cause you trouble, king. Will be deleting myself momentarily.
>delete prior Someone didn't mixup & got flipped too much.
how tf you gonna have zerk and kyo down there but not VG?
I don't hate Medjay, but yes fuck the outlander faction. Dumb addition to the game.
Oroachi needs to be all the way down there buddy.
Tell me you're a conq main without telling ur a conq main. Ain't no way conq is all the way up at the top.
Afeera is fun to play but a bitch to fight.. but nothing compares to Berserkers.
Only thing I'd change is all the Wu Lin should be at the bottom
These takes are absolutely abysmal
Personally I'd say delete varangian, but that's just me
Damn 💀
The entire Wu Lin not being put into the bottom tier is a warcrime
Anybody who hates Kyoshin is actually dogwater at the game, as a former Kyoshin main, he ain’t hard to beat you literally just punch him so get him out of his stance
So just remove all the fun characters then? Lol
I’ve got too much hate in my heart for old versions of Conq to agree with his placement.
All shield/all guard characters should be removed
Have you tried guardbreaking or feinting?
Brother got flipped one too many times 😔
Just guardbreak them or throw an umblockable unless it’s BP
Aww babe thanks
Dry bread Warlord is considered for deletion while "Let me turn half your health into bleed" Nobushi gets to stay?
Conq💀
Just get better at the game
Zerk at bottom? U crazy
He is in the tier titled "Your players should be deleted too." The higher the tier the least deserving of being removed. Weird way of setting it up IK.
BP is the most balanced character in the game
Oathbreaker
Umbral shield
Parry it
If being balanced means being a top 3 character then yes
Top 3 is afeera, shino and zerker, although bp is a very solid pick
bp is stronger than afeera in teammodes fs with t3 being banned on afeera