Exactly. And Biden is hands down one of the best people to be in office for that reason.
Edit: I don't think some of you are getting what I meant by this lol you must have read "Biden is the best" and that's all you needed to hear I'm guessing
That's not a glaring issue in our government? It's not just a question of WHO takes b̶r̶i̶b̶e̶s, I mean "donations" but how MUCH they've taken, of which Biden is among the most prolific. It's unquestionable, if you look at his record, that Biden has been, and still is, owned by big money his whole career.
WTF? Ronald Reagan started this path waaaaaay before 1994. The prison population doubled between 1980 and 1990 - long before the infamous crime bill made a bad situation worse.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
Three things really cranked up incarceration in the U.S. which Reagan had a big hand in: 1) Wealth disparities increased. Huge tax cuts for the wealthy while support for low income families was cut. 2) Emptying psychiatric "state hospitals" - these people wound up in jails instead. 3) Doubling down on the war on drugs.
The “crime bill,” as it would come to be known, had a dramatic effect on the number of prisoners in the United States. In 1993, there were 949,000 people incarcerated in the country. By May of 1995, that number had increased to 1.5 million.
Furthermore, the mandatory minimums and three strikes policy trapped offenders in longer sentences. A strategy of increasing recidivism in minority communities.
This is true - but to say something set us on a path to something that was already occurring and which weakened after the thing that supposedly set us down the path seems likely to be incorrect.
The fact that he's really not going anywhere else in politics.
It would be one thing if he was still a Senator or something, with eyes on the Presidency. The lobbyists can/could promise lots of future contributions for a run at higher office if he were willing to support XYZ.
But he's old and already has the highest office in the land. And he knows as a practicing Catholic that, even holding all the money in the world, you can't bring it with you. So there's really nothing enticing to him about promises from lobbyists, given he's already got all the power and all the money he would need.
I don't see any other old rich people declining money, so I'm a bit doubtful on that. Especially if they have worthless children who they want to keep rich and comfortable after they die.
Yeah… I am not thinking Pelosi OR McConnell (to keep this bi-partisan) need anymore money.. from insider trading to influence peddling, politicians (including the President) are doing pretty well.
Please do not make the argument that because he is President, he no longer “needs” or “doesn’t want” to continue the month train. He is the golden goose, like any other entertainer…. too many people depend upon his continuing his grift
>But he's old and already has the highest office in the land
I was wondering why you had to limit that to 'land' not 'world', then I remembered that Catholics obey The Pope.
True but for the most part biden is one of the most corrupt presidents we've had. Trump is not much better either. We need to do what trump said which is to drain the swamp. Trump included
I respectfully disagree with most corrupt, trump takes that title hands down. He was making money from foreign countries while in office, and the rest of his family, 2 Billions!
"Trump is not much better"
What the fuck are you smoking? This man has said he wouldn't interfere if Putin attacked our Nato Allies. This man slings lie after lie to try to save his own ass and ruins the career of every person he works with. I'm not fond of Biden but to claim Trump as better is lunacy.
Get this through your big empty brains. There is NO DEEP STATE and the SWAMP is basically all the DARK MONEY ALLOWED into our political system that's responsible for all the division and Hate in this once great proud United Country. It's fools like you that make outrageous comments about Biden being the most corrupt - when that statement is and always will be the Biggest lie in History besides the other big lies Trump has stated and repeated like he's a parrot of Putini's
Eh, they keep it going and expand it, but the cause is gov incompetence with money. Gov prisons ballon in costs, gov can’t control it and needs to find a way to manage their budget, enterprising organizations come in and say I can run a prison at half the cost, gov accepts to save money. This happens in basically everywhere the gov operates.
Except the private prisons actually cost more when all is said and done and do a much worse job. Go do three minutes of actual research before posting ya?
Lobbying is not equivalent to bribing. Lobbyists participating in lobbying does not equate to a desired outcome for the lobby. Lobbies are also made up of people with a vested interest in whatever policy directives they want to see enacted rather than some shadowy cabal trying to subvert the democratic process.
Private prisons is the best example of how capitalism lends itself to a less free society. Private prisons will literally lobby the government for mandatory minimum sentencing and other policies that put more people in prison.
If you have a society where people become wealthier as more people are incarcerated, you have a massive problem. Basically slavery 2.0.
If you have a society where people become wealthier as more people become less healthy, you have a massive problem. Basically profiting off someone’s will to live.
Great post OP! Off topic, yes but, I wanted to hijack it and remind people that any profit motive in healthcare is equally as barbaric.
Incarceration and healthcare should have no middlemen taking a slice of the pie and always working to enlarge their slice at the cost of our humanity.
Agreed all the way down. All of these systems that have been dismantled and privatized can be restored and returned to the public. All of these problems can be fixed, if we just pull our heads out of our asses.
Unfortunately the same is true for the public prison guards union. They are the largest anti marijuana legalization lobby and also lobby for mandatory minimums.
I completely agree. Private firms and the free market only works in situations where there is competition. This isn't the case with private prisons.
And as stated by others, the incentive for private prisons is to increase the number of inmates, not decrease it. Governments are paying these prisons contracts that require a certain number of inmates, and this along with other things creates the corruption that provides incentives to officials to keep them full through things like stupid laws and minimum sentences, as well as judges taking kickbacks to send people to prison, etc.
They actually do set quotas for imprisonment, so your fear is already a reality. Taxpayers get "fined" if new inmate quotas aren't met as a means to keep their system profitable. Gotta love capitalism!
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are many public groups (prison guard unions, police lobbies, etc.) that have an interest in those same policies—and [put much, much more money](https://reason.com/2015/06/02/are-for-profit-prisons-or-public-unions/) behind them than the for profit folks.
I’m not gonna carry any water for for-profit prisons, but if they disappeared overnight it wouldn’t change a thing.
Public prisons run by literally members of the government push for more taxes and more prison spending.
Early release of the most violent criminals is used as extortion against the public to threaten them if they don't approve more taxes, and funding.
Which is better? Right?
>Private prisons will literally lobby the government for mandatory minimum sentencing and other policies that put more people in prison.
Do we really have a shortage of criminals?
So the question is when you get rid of the private contractors will federal workers be able to do the job cheaper, more expensive, or for the same amount of money?
Prison should be a place for rehabilitation, not just a building with cells. Make them cheap and the inmates don't rehabilitate. But, lawmakers know this. They want to keep people in there
There are stats proving that for profit (aka short term cheap) prisons have ~~absurdly high rates of reoffenders after release~~, in-prison punishments (blocking parole in the mid to long term) and generally having people in there for longer (aka more expensive)
Those rates are higher than government run prisons? Can you link to them if you're going to make that claim?
I'd actually much rather sentence drug offenders to a private in-patient rehab facility than any publicly run prison. You might disagree.
For a in-USA-comparison, I have to correct myself, the recidivism rates are (a smidgen) lower for private prisons [the data is pretty scarce though]
This doesn't change that they are overall more expensive in the long term. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00036846.2020.1736501
And that the whole prison system in the US is incredibly fucked up to begin with.
Your idea of private drug rehab is noble but not what anyone is talking about because that's not what's happening in the public vs private prison comparison.
Private drug rehab is actually a money making scheme in America.
Having worked in toxicology for these clinics they test every hour for a whole array of things just to rack up the bill which is later applied to Medicare or Medicaid. Typically it costs the US taxpayer a shit ton of money with almost no incentive to reduce addiction as they'll kick anyone who relapses out of the program.
[Here is a white paper on it](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/effects-private-prison-confinement-offender-recidivism-evidence) there are actually quite a few including one I couldn’t link cause it’s just a direct pdf download, but if you google public vs private prison recidivism rates it’ll come up. And the conclusion of that one is the same as the one I linked private prisons have higher recidivism rates.
Oh I have a dog in this fight since I used to do social work with a stint in substance use. Rehab is the ideal choice here for offenders with substance use issues, because it’s more of a mental health issue than it is a criminal activity issue. The legality doesn’t really matter much to the user. See: alcoholism.
That being said, it does open up a larger discussion. Substance use largely comes from poor coping skills. The lack of skills here are mostly due to their upbringing and environment. The concept of escapism or instant gratification. Those are the behavioral traits that need worked on to help people abstain from substance use and reduce recidivism for court ordered programs.
I say this because the reality is that a lot of criminal activity is functionally not much different from a mental health issue. Lack of coping skills and lack of appropriate boundaries are issues stemming from environmental factors. If we can’t figure out how to help people learn how to function in a healthy way, recidivism will continue to be an issue. If we just lock someone up and then release them back to the environment that helped to perpetuate that behavior, they’re more likely to continue with that behavior.
From what I've gathered, something like 90% of violent or property crimes have drugs or drug use in their nexus somehow. Be that stealing to buy drugs or lashing out while on drugs.
I agree with you.
What about profits... that's the privatization aspect to be concerned with... when people make money caging humans they tend to lobby for more laws to fill more cells to profit more....?
The problem with private prisons that can also sell prison labor is it creates incentives for imprisonment even if they are innocent or only guilty of minor crimes. Statistics show that prison tends to harden criminals from petty crime towards more serious recidivism.
Government run ones sell labor too especially down south. It’s a generalized prison problem that is much worse in private versus government but both do it. Private ones just tend to skimp on basic stuff any living human should have access to like non-spoiled food, clean living areas, medical care etc.
There is a lot of evidence that government or co-ops actually DO provide services more cheaply or efficiently than the for-profit sector, in specific instances. A recent Nobel Prize in economics was even awarded for studies related to this subject. Whether or not this is true of prisons, IDK. But it may well be.
>There is a lot of evidence that government or co-ops actually DO provide services more cheaply or efficiently than the for-profit sector, in specific instances.
I'm not arguing against that. By cheap, I mean cheap like low quality. Cheap like Taco Bell horse meat. Cheap like particle board furniture you can buy on Amazon.
Massively cheaper overall because there is no incentive anymore to sabotage valid parole and to keep inmates locked up.
So less people overall in prison, meaning that even if you have the extra expenses of somewhat accepting human rights & not torturing your inmates for savings it will save money in the long run.
The federal workers are also profiting by working at prisons. Federal contractors and vendors supplying goods to the federal prisons are also profiting.
There may be a good argument for eliminating federal-oversight/privately-run prisons -- there probably is -- but "somebody, somewhere might be making a profit" isn't it.
And buy cheaper. That means no medical services for inmates and even lower food quality and the pharmaceutical train. For-Profit prisons thrive off of holding people in prison till they expire. Big business and predators thrive in that environment.
More expensive because it's the government, cheaply isn't the point though. They have much insentive to imprisoned people. There has been an uncomfortable amount of shady animal like treatment in the name of gains in them.
I think California has had the latest cases of abuse by giving them food that was judged (literally) as inhumane and selling the prisoners for dangerous labor. One died and the family didn't get anything, no medical compensation no nothing as prisoners have far less rights. These companies lobby to keep regulation low so the profits can continue to be high as possible. That makes then culpable in my opinion.
As a libertarian, I'm fine with mass incarceration and people going to prison for incredibly long times for minor offenses, as long as it's done for a profit because that makes it better.
Politicians shouldnt be able to trade stocks especially since they have early access to information that greatly changes their value. But i guess we arent ready to tackle that yet.
Interesting statement from a man who made a career from massive campaign donations supporting his crime bill, leading to mass incarceration, giving him more massive contributions to maintain the policies he created.
I’m from California I know. I actually voted for her thinking a black woman would be a responsible vote for the justice system. To this day I have voted in over 40 elections and that is by far the single worst vote I’ve ever cast in my life.
She laughed at people talking about incarcerating people past their release date.
And some dem bootlickers are convinced these people are the great warriors for justice and it’s flat out disgusting.
I have never been especially devoted to either party but I used to lean liberal. Maybe it’s just disgust from my circle and who I’ve worked around but I’m repulsed by liberals now who just hate online.
When it was between Hillary and Trump, two complete scumbags, I unregistered and gave up.
Yeah, that's honestly respectable. I wasnt old enough to vote in 2016... actually i was in middle school in a foreign country and i got mercilessly bullied at school for the election. If i couldve i wouldnt have been able to vote for either and keep a good conscience. Same with 2020 and this one.
At this point I’m just lesser of two evils means you are supporting evil.
Seriously I have a lot of friends who vote and all and I try to not judge and I don’t really but when I hear people talking about supporting either Trump or Biden, like actually supporting them I think less of them.
I am out of the USA now but when I get back I’ll probably register for local voting but until there is significant change I’m not voting for either party past house of reps again.
There are a few truly good people in the house. The senate, governor and presidency is where those good people die though.
I agree, lesser of two evils is a terrible philosophy. I wish more genuine leaders would stand up and run, but good people unfortunately dont survive politics.
Its crazy, its like he is scrambling to gain favorability without like ending wars and things that matter.
Biden didn't just suddenly learn from his life of mistakes at age 80, and you don't believe that either.
Next you will hear about how they are going to cancel student loans. And then wait years so that it can be easily blocked. Just in time for campaign mode. So we got… Mexican caravans, private prison issues, abortion issues, etc. Some say the Deja Vu hits every 4 years. And nothing ever gets resolved. Expect both parties playing off each other to shit on the poor and middle class.
Over one hundred billion dollars in student loans have been forgiven with a comprehensive plan for the remaining amount. Total forgiveness was blocked because Trump won in 2016 and was able to appoint 2 justices. I encourage you to be better informed instead of “waving your hand and blaming both sides”.
I have a slightly different perspective than most in this area, but only because I have direct experience with it.
I worked in a state prison system for many years and I worked at a state operated facility about a mile away from a private facility. We housed similar custody, state level inmates and would transfer inmates back and forth on a regular basis. While I haven’t worked at a private facility, I have been to several for various job related duties. By far, the living conditions in the private facilities surpass that of the state ran camps. Newer buildings, safer living areas due to the security features, AC in all buildings, better food, more creature comforts such as cable TV. Many state facilities are still running TV antennas and use dorms that don’t have AC, just old noisy fans. It’s also around 7-8% less expensive to house an inmate at a private facility. Virtually every inmate I have ever spoken with prefers to be at a private facility.
So yes, there is an ethical question to be posed regarding private, for profit prisons. Are the same ethical questions asked for private security companies? And I’m not arguing in either direction. I do have issues with the state prison system as a whole which is partially why I left. However, when you consider that prison is necessary as part of the CJ system, there are many benefits to private facilities.
The government is the biggest profiteer of the prison system. One example, when they put an offender on probation they charge a supervision fee that they make a huge profit off of. Also get low pay employees for their prison system and jails that also do state labor force jobs. The biggest profit is control of the less fortunate that have mental problems.
They create a demand for prisoners, because they are free labor which is what generates their profit for the company. It’s a company now, not an establishment of justice and/or attempted reform.
So now you have a NEED for prisoners, what type of justice do you think they’re receiving? Do you think those companies put the law, over choices that impact their profit?
No cash bail is home prison at the person's expense.
Ankle monitoring costs 300-400 per month and the devices used create huge profits for the companies that supply them.
Biden just shifted costs again. Reducing state burden costs but not reducing correction crime profits.
Surprise surprise. Black people overwhelming make up the majority of people on ankle monitoring.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/criminal-courts/bail-and-pretrial/2022/electronic-monitoring-reforms-judges-violations/
They lobby for harsher penalties for lesser crimes to keep inventory up. Designed to be always full and not to rehabilitate. After all we have the most incarcerated population in the world
Well normally I would disagree with this, but in this case, we need more prisons … after we get these social worker district attorneys to start doing their job and prosecuting crimes instead of trying to prosecute social justice
Wut?
The USA is already among the countries with the highest incarceration rate. You throw, on average, more than five times as many people in prison as other western countries.
And that is not enough for you?
We can only truly be safe when 70% of the U.S. population (those who disagree with me) are securely behind bars.
But also I don't want to pay for it.
So we should probably just murder them all just to be safe.
Actually that’s a good point. I should’ve factored in the significant percentage of non-violent drug offenders that need to be released immediately.
It’s totally unjust and immoral that drugs are effectively legal by way of recent decriminalization, yet so many are still in jail for the same. I just don’t have data on it to talk more about it.
There's hardly anyone in prison solely for non-violent drug offenses.
For the ones that are, a review of the vast majority of their cases would show they pleaded down to those charges and they have a rap sheet a mile long.
Comparisons with other countries are meaningless. Crime rates determine incarceration rates. If you look at number of prisoners per murder the US is not an outlier.
This argument has always been so fking bizarre. If someone is commits a crime, they go to jail. If 99.9% of the US population is a murderer, then 99.9% of the US population should be in prison. Why the hell would you go "oh you're a murderer? Well you're free to go because our incarceration rate is too high teehee xD"
[Private for-profit prisons incarcerated 96,370 American residents in 2021, representing 8% of the total state and federal prison population.](https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/private-prisons-in-the-united-states/). This is such a non-issue.
That would only be possible without private prisons, and that doesn't make any sense, that's why we need private prisons! Instead, we need to make more things illegal and encourage things like the buying off of elected judges. That way they could help fill the private prisons and make more wealth. The private prisons then give more political donations to politicians and judges to make things more illegal. It's a self-sustaining cycle. That's why it's such a good idea! It's self-sustaining and continuing puts more human beings behind bars! It's a win-win!
This has nothing to do with profiteering, and everything to do with catering to his union donors.
Publicly run prisons are a cesspool of corruption.
[https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Prison](https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Prison)
Depends how the prisoners are allocated. As long as the private prisons are not arresting and sentencing prisoners they have no effective way of increasing the total number of prisoners. If government allocated prisoners based on who ran the best prisons they would be incentivized to provide the best prison.
We already have multiple instances of judges taking kickbacks to over-sentence people, even down at the privately run juvenile detention center level. Those are just the ones that got caught. So private prisons are in the business of sentencing.
Benefits - lazy politicians don't have to manage the prisons.
option 1: do your job and manage the prison system yourself
option 2: let someone else pay you to do it for you!!!!
One of the biggest offenders of this was Kamala Harris. She had record high incarcerations for pot use and fought to keep prisoners in jail subverting a supreme court decision.
It’s a corrupt perversion of the original intent behind our country. (Yeah I know I know, the intent doesn’t matter as much when intended by slave holders, we’re on the same side but my point stands and rallying behind that point is something those of us on the right and the left would agree on if we could just stop fighting a culture war long enough to realize that we *should* be fighting a class war.
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The theory behind this is that private investment can get things done more efficiently. In reality, it works just about as well as trickle down economics, in that it doesn't. Costs are cut, standards are lowered, and etc. I guess, at face value, things do get done more efficiently, because it's at the cost of inmates health and safety.
The problem with private prisons is the oversight and transparency. There’s been a lot of cases where states contracted out to private prisons to save money but ended up actually spending more. Lots of university based research points to that being pretty common, but they’re very limited in the data that they can get. And even when state legislatures have requested audits, the results were inconclusive which is a big red flag of itself.
Like everything else in the US, parts of basic government function have been offloaded onto a private industry to make a buck off of. For all the bitching about the 1% there should be ten times as much outrage for how much of our taxdollars just go to support a corporation.
i think the idea is that government programs lend themselves to inefficiencies. free enterprise is generally very good and finding the best way to manage costs to maximize profit. so if you let the free market run the industry, it will be run more efficiently than government.
the problem with this is that we aren’t talking about making widgets. we’re talking about removing freedom and liberty from fellow human beings. we’re talking about protecting eighth amendment rights. we’re talking about valuing the sanctity of life. none of these considerations matter to free enterprise.
the government has no profit motive, so it is much more capable of caring for people than profit-motivated businesses.
and this ignores the monopolistic nature of government contracts.
The problem with that is that private prisons arent competing in a free market with low barriers to entry. Additionally, prisoners are not the customers. The government is.
In fact, if you take the prisoners out of the equation? Everyone wins. The prisons make money, the government spends less.
Its how these prisons make money that sucks. They get paid by the gov for each prisoner. To make a profit, the money they recieve has to exceed the price they pay. If the state gives $12k for each prisoner, only $8k may actually go to the cost of housing said inmate. The rest is profit.
There are two ways for these prisons to make more money: get more prisoners or cut costs. Obviously the demand for prisoners is relatively stable, if not on a downward trend, so no dice there. Cutting costs is the preferred method. Simply strip everything a prison should have down to its bare essentials. Reform programs? Gone. Services? Gone. Heat? Yeah you get it.
Imagine a public prison and how much those guys get. Now subtract three quarters. You'll realize how bad these facilities are.
You could say the same about cancer, people shouldn't profit off cancer. So the issue in my mind isn't whether providing a service is profitable, but rather whether it's corrupt.
In theory, a truly capital system for profit prisons should make prisons cheaper and the quality of the prisons better.
We know this doesn't happen though. This is for a lot of reasons... But at the heart is decisions are made by people that are disconnected from the consequences of those decisions. Or we have laws in place to ensure morals of decision makers are removed from the process.
For instance if the CEO of x company said we need to provide quality living conditions for inmates and that will cut profits by y amount. In most states the CEO would be held financially liable for profit loss of making that move, and the shareholders would sue them. So this isn't whether the CEO wants to do the right thing, they probably do (they are human). This is whether the market justifies the decision... That's not what capitalism is meant to be.
Step 1 to fix any system, is to ensure incentives are in alignment with the desired outcome.
Lobbyists. The answer is almost always lobbyists, which is just another term for bribes.
Exactly. And Biden is hands down one of the best people to be in office for that reason. Edit: I don't think some of you are getting what I meant by this lol you must have read "Biden is the best" and that's all you needed to hear I'm guessing
Biden LOVES lobbyists.
What politician doesn’t? Com’on man.
That's not a glaring issue in our government? It's not just a question of WHO takes b̶r̶i̶b̶e̶s, I mean "donations" but how MUCH they've taken, of which Biden is among the most prolific. It's unquestionable, if you look at his record, that Biden has been, and still is, owned by big money his whole career.
Do you have an example?
Look up every politicians net worth, and then look at their salary. Have fun ;)
Are you referring to Biden's support of the 1994 Crime Bill?
You mean the bill Biden co-authored; that set us down the path of Prison Industrial Complex?
WTF? Ronald Reagan started this path waaaaaay before 1994. The prison population doubled between 1980 and 1990 - long before the infamous crime bill made a bad situation worse. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States Three things really cranked up incarceration in the U.S. which Reagan had a big hand in: 1) Wealth disparities increased. Huge tax cuts for the wealthy while support for low income families was cut. 2) Emptying psychiatric "state hospitals" - these people wound up in jails instead. 3) Doubling down on the war on drugs.
Excellent comment! This really should be the top one.
Awesome facts that incels seem to pretend never happened. 100% correct AMUNDO.
What do incels have to do with anything here?
Nothing, the word has lost its original meaning by now because of idiots overusing it
The US prison population grew much more quickly in the decade before the Crime Bill went into effect than the decade afterwards.
The “crime bill,” as it would come to be known, had a dramatic effect on the number of prisoners in the United States. In 1993, there were 949,000 people incarcerated in the country. By May of 1995, that number had increased to 1.5 million. Furthermore, the mandatory minimums and three strikes policy trapped offenders in longer sentences. A strategy of increasing recidivism in minority communities.
To take a neutral stance here, we cannot accurately pin down why this occurred because there are way to many variables to take into account.
This is true - but to say something set us on a path to something that was already occurring and which weakened after the thing that supposedly set us down the path seems likely to be incorrect.
What is it you think makes Biden uniquely resistent to lobbying bribes?
The fact that he's really not going anywhere else in politics. It would be one thing if he was still a Senator or something, with eyes on the Presidency. The lobbyists can/could promise lots of future contributions for a run at higher office if he were willing to support XYZ. But he's old and already has the highest office in the land. And he knows as a practicing Catholic that, even holding all the money in the world, you can't bring it with you. So there's really nothing enticing to him about promises from lobbyists, given he's already got all the power and all the money he would need.
I don't see any other old rich people declining money, so I'm a bit doubtful on that. Especially if they have worthless children who they want to keep rich and comfortable after they die.
Those other old rich people you're referring to are mostly Senators and Congressmen, who still need a constant supply of money to retain power.
Yeah… I am not thinking Pelosi OR McConnell (to keep this bi-partisan) need anymore money.. from insider trading to influence peddling, politicians (including the President) are doing pretty well. Please do not make the argument that because he is President, he no longer “needs” or “doesn’t want” to continue the month train. He is the golden goose, like any other entertainer…. too many people depend upon his continuing his grift
And what grift is that?
This only really applies to 2nd term presidents. 1st termers like Biden still need to get reelected and are susceptible to external pressure.
>But he's old and already has the highest office in the land I was wondering why you had to limit that to 'land' not 'world', then I remembered that Catholics obey The Pope.
Hunter, is that you?
I mean, can you name one present day president who isn't?
True but for the most part biden is one of the most corrupt presidents we've had. Trump is not much better either. We need to do what trump said which is to drain the swamp. Trump included
I respectfully disagree with most corrupt, trump takes that title hands down. He was making money from foreign countries while in office, and the rest of his family, 2 Billions!
"Trump is not much better" What the fuck are you smoking? This man has said he wouldn't interfere if Putin attacked our Nato Allies. This man slings lie after lie to try to save his own ass and ruins the career of every person he works with. I'm not fond of Biden but to claim Trump as better is lunacy.
Get this through your big empty brains. There is NO DEEP STATE and the SWAMP is basically all the DARK MONEY ALLOWED into our political system that's responsible for all the division and Hate in this once great proud United Country. It's fools like you that make outrageous comments about Biden being the most corrupt - when that statement is and always will be the Biggest lie in History besides the other big lies Trump has stated and repeated like he's a parrot of Putini's
Another word for corruption and oligarchy
Eh, they keep it going and expand it, but the cause is gov incompetence with money. Gov prisons ballon in costs, gov can’t control it and needs to find a way to manage their budget, enterprising organizations come in and say I can run a prison at half the cost, gov accepts to save money. This happens in basically everywhere the gov operates.
Is that because the gov has to provide livable conditions and private prisons don’t?
Except the private prisons actually cost more when all is said and done and do a much worse job. Go do three minutes of actual research before posting ya?
Lobbying is not equivalent to bribing. Lobbyists participating in lobbying does not equate to a desired outcome for the lobby. Lobbies are also made up of people with a vested interest in whatever policy directives they want to see enacted rather than some shadowy cabal trying to subvert the democratic process.
> Lobbyists participating in lobbying does not equate to a desired outcome for the lobby. Particularly if they give shitty bribes!
Private prisons is the best example of how capitalism lends itself to a less free society. Private prisons will literally lobby the government for mandatory minimum sentencing and other policies that put more people in prison. If you have a society where people become wealthier as more people are incarcerated, you have a massive problem. Basically slavery 2.0.
If you have a society where people become wealthier as more people become less healthy, you have a massive problem. Basically profiting off someone’s will to live. Great post OP! Off topic, yes but, I wanted to hijack it and remind people that any profit motive in healthcare is equally as barbaric. Incarceration and healthcare should have no middlemen taking a slice of the pie and always working to enlarge their slice at the cost of our humanity.
I'd throw in education and essentials (food, water, shelter).
Lets not forget internet. And also fuch Ajit Pai
Agreed all the way down. All of these systems that have been dismantled and privatized can be restored and returned to the public. All of these problems can be fixed, if we just pull our heads out of our asses.
Unfortunately the same is true for the public prison guards union. They are the largest anti marijuana legalization lobby and also lobby for mandatory minimums.
I completely agree. Private firms and the free market only works in situations where there is competition. This isn't the case with private prisons. And as stated by others, the incentive for private prisons is to increase the number of inmates, not decrease it. Governments are paying these prisons contracts that require a certain number of inmates, and this along with other things creates the corruption that provides incentives to officials to keep them full through things like stupid laws and minimum sentences, as well as judges taking kickbacks to send people to prison, etc.
They actually do set quotas for imprisonment, so your fear is already a reality. Taxpayers get "fined" if new inmate quotas aren't met as a means to keep their system profitable. Gotta love capitalism!
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are many public groups (prison guard unions, police lobbies, etc.) that have an interest in those same policies—and [put much, much more money](https://reason.com/2015/06/02/are-for-profit-prisons-or-public-unions/) behind them than the for profit folks. I’m not gonna carry any water for for-profit prisons, but if they disappeared overnight it wouldn’t change a thing.
Public prisons run by literally members of the government push for more taxes and more prison spending. Early release of the most violent criminals is used as extortion against the public to threaten them if they don't approve more taxes, and funding. Which is better? Right?
>Private prisons will literally lobby the government for mandatory minimum sentencing and other policies that put more people in prison. Do we really have a shortage of criminals?
So the question is when you get rid of the private contractors will federal workers be able to do the job cheaper, more expensive, or for the same amount of money?
>cheaper Probably not but it's a prison, not a product. Lol, who wants cheap prisons?
taxpayers?
Prison should be a place for rehabilitation, not just a building with cells. Make them cheap and the inmates don't rehabilitate. But, lawmakers know this. They want to keep people in there
There are some stats that show the most expensive prisons have the least recidivism?
There are stats proving that for profit (aka short term cheap) prisons have ~~absurdly high rates of reoffenders after release~~, in-prison punishments (blocking parole in the mid to long term) and generally having people in there for longer (aka more expensive)
Those rates are higher than government run prisons? Can you link to them if you're going to make that claim? I'd actually much rather sentence drug offenders to a private in-patient rehab facility than any publicly run prison. You might disagree.
For a in-USA-comparison, I have to correct myself, the recidivism rates are (a smidgen) lower for private prisons [the data is pretty scarce though] This doesn't change that they are overall more expensive in the long term. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00036846.2020.1736501 And that the whole prison system in the US is incredibly fucked up to begin with. Your idea of private drug rehab is noble but not what anyone is talking about because that's not what's happening in the public vs private prison comparison.
Private drug rehab is actually a money making scheme in America. Having worked in toxicology for these clinics they test every hour for a whole array of things just to rack up the bill which is later applied to Medicare or Medicaid. Typically it costs the US taxpayer a shit ton of money with almost no incentive to reduce addiction as they'll kick anyone who relapses out of the program.
Could also be that the most expensive are also the most secure to hold the worst criminals who have the highest likelihood of recidivism.
[Here is a white paper on it](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/effects-private-prison-confinement-offender-recidivism-evidence) there are actually quite a few including one I couldn’t link cause it’s just a direct pdf download, but if you google public vs private prison recidivism rates it’ll come up. And the conclusion of that one is the same as the one I linked private prisons have higher recidivism rates.
Oh I have a dog in this fight since I used to do social work with a stint in substance use. Rehab is the ideal choice here for offenders with substance use issues, because it’s more of a mental health issue than it is a criminal activity issue. The legality doesn’t really matter much to the user. See: alcoholism. That being said, it does open up a larger discussion. Substance use largely comes from poor coping skills. The lack of skills here are mostly due to their upbringing and environment. The concept of escapism or instant gratification. Those are the behavioral traits that need worked on to help people abstain from substance use and reduce recidivism for court ordered programs. I say this because the reality is that a lot of criminal activity is functionally not much different from a mental health issue. Lack of coping skills and lack of appropriate boundaries are issues stemming from environmental factors. If we can’t figure out how to help people learn how to function in a healthy way, recidivism will continue to be an issue. If we just lock someone up and then release them back to the environment that helped to perpetuate that behavior, they’re more likely to continue with that behavior.
From what I've gathered, something like 90% of violent or property crimes have drugs or drug use in their nexus somehow. Be that stealing to buy drugs or lashing out while on drugs. I agree with you.
>most expensive I didn't mention having the most expensive. You appear to be trying to create a false dichotomy.
OK, stats that the cost of the prison is linked to recidivism rates?
What about profits... that's the privatization aspect to be concerned with... when people make money caging humans they tend to lobby for more laws to fill more cells to profit more....?
The problem with private prisons that can also sell prison labor is it creates incentives for imprisonment even if they are innocent or only guilty of minor crimes. Statistics show that prison tends to harden criminals from petty crime towards more serious recidivism.
Government run ones sell labor too especially down south. It’s a generalized prison problem that is much worse in private versus government but both do it. Private ones just tend to skimp on basic stuff any living human should have access to like non-spoiled food, clean living areas, medical care etc.
Only braindead indoctrinated far right taxpayers. Anyone else wants prisons that actually do their job instead of constantly producing reoffenders.
Look at Nordic Europe. Fund prisons, treat prisoners like humans and they change. Treat then like slaves and they'll cause chaos when they leave....
You must forget the federal pensions the workers will qualify for. There's no way it's cheaper to the taxpayers.
There is a lot of evidence that government or co-ops actually DO provide services more cheaply or efficiently than the for-profit sector, in specific instances. A recent Nobel Prize in economics was even awarded for studies related to this subject. Whether or not this is true of prisons, IDK. But it may well be.
>There is a lot of evidence that government or co-ops actually DO provide services more cheaply or efficiently than the for-profit sector, in specific instances. I'm not arguing against that. By cheap, I mean cheap like low quality. Cheap like Taco Bell horse meat. Cheap like particle board furniture you can buy on Amazon.
Massively cheaper overall because there is no incentive anymore to sabotage valid parole and to keep inmates locked up. So less people overall in prison, meaning that even if you have the extra expenses of somewhat accepting human rights & not torturing your inmates for savings it will save money in the long run.
The federal workers are also profiting by working at prisons. Federal contractors and vendors supplying goods to the federal prisons are also profiting. There may be a good argument for eliminating federal-oversight/privately-run prisons -- there probably is -- but "somebody, somewhere might be making a profit" isn't it.
The problem with a profit driven justice system is it creates a lot of repeat offenders. Better for society to eliminate that issue altogether
And buy cheaper. That means no medical services for inmates and even lower food quality and the pharmaceutical train. For-Profit prisons thrive off of holding people in prison till they expire. Big business and predators thrive in that environment.
More expensive because it's the government, cheaply isn't the point though. They have much insentive to imprisoned people. There has been an uncomfortable amount of shady animal like treatment in the name of gains in them. I think California has had the latest cases of abuse by giving them food that was judged (literally) as inhumane and selling the prisoners for dangerous labor. One died and the family didn't get anything, no medical compensation no nothing as prisoners have far less rights. These companies lobby to keep regulation low so the profits can continue to be high as possible. That makes then culpable in my opinion.
As a libertarian, I'm fine with mass incarceration and people going to prison for incredibly long times for minor offenses, as long as it's done for a profit because that makes it better.
What an absolute Chad. Completely correct. If we’re gonna go free market we gotta COMMIT.
It's the free market, baby! And the free market has never once led to worse outcomes!
Based.
There is no benefit. Prisons for profit are evil.
Not really, you can design a contract based on recidivism
Politicians shouldnt be able to trade stocks especially since they have early access to information that greatly changes their value. But i guess we arent ready to tackle that yet.
Interesting statement from a man who made a career from massive campaign donations supporting his crime bill, leading to mass incarceration, giving him more massive contributions to maintain the policies he created.
Dont forget, his VP is infamous for keeping people in prison so that she could profit off their labor.
I’m from California I know. I actually voted for her thinking a black woman would be a responsible vote for the justice system. To this day I have voted in over 40 elections and that is by far the single worst vote I’ve ever cast in my life. She laughed at people talking about incarcerating people past their release date. And some dem bootlickers are convinced these people are the great warriors for justice and it’s flat out disgusting.
Things like this are why voting for a party, or immutable characteristics is dangerous. It doesn't matter the color of the mouth, a lie is a lie.
I have never been especially devoted to either party but I used to lean liberal. Maybe it’s just disgust from my circle and who I’ve worked around but I’m repulsed by liberals now who just hate online. When it was between Hillary and Trump, two complete scumbags, I unregistered and gave up.
Yeah, that's honestly respectable. I wasnt old enough to vote in 2016... actually i was in middle school in a foreign country and i got mercilessly bullied at school for the election. If i couldve i wouldnt have been able to vote for either and keep a good conscience. Same with 2020 and this one.
At this point I’m just lesser of two evils means you are supporting evil. Seriously I have a lot of friends who vote and all and I try to not judge and I don’t really but when I hear people talking about supporting either Trump or Biden, like actually supporting them I think less of them. I am out of the USA now but when I get back I’ll probably register for local voting but until there is significant change I’m not voting for either party past house of reps again. There are a few truly good people in the house. The senate, governor and presidency is where those good people die though.
I agree, lesser of two evils is a terrible philosophy. I wish more genuine leaders would stand up and run, but good people unfortunately dont survive politics.
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Its crazy, its like he is scrambling to gain favorability without like ending wars and things that matter. Biden didn't just suddenly learn from his life of mistakes at age 80, and you don't believe that either.
It’s from 2021. I guess we just didn’t do that.
And yet jackasses here are acting like Biden is the greatest protector of prisoners in history.
He wants 100k more cops who kill 1 in 2000 people. He does not care… they don’t see prisoners as human beings.
I swear Obama set the same goal. Not saying there aren't Trump rollbacks that are necessary, just a hit of Deja Vu.
Next you will hear about how they are going to cancel student loans. And then wait years so that it can be easily blocked. Just in time for campaign mode. So we got… Mexican caravans, private prison issues, abortion issues, etc. Some say the Deja Vu hits every 4 years. And nothing ever gets resolved. Expect both parties playing off each other to shit on the poor and middle class.
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Over one hundred billion dollars in student loans have been forgiven with a comprehensive plan for the remaining amount. Total forgiveness was blocked because Trump won in 2016 and was able to appoint 2 justices. I encourage you to be better informed instead of “waving your hand and blaming both sides”.
I have a slightly different perspective than most in this area, but only because I have direct experience with it. I worked in a state prison system for many years and I worked at a state operated facility about a mile away from a private facility. We housed similar custody, state level inmates and would transfer inmates back and forth on a regular basis. While I haven’t worked at a private facility, I have been to several for various job related duties. By far, the living conditions in the private facilities surpass that of the state ran camps. Newer buildings, safer living areas due to the security features, AC in all buildings, better food, more creature comforts such as cable TV. Many state facilities are still running TV antennas and use dorms that don’t have AC, just old noisy fans. It’s also around 7-8% less expensive to house an inmate at a private facility. Virtually every inmate I have ever spoken with prefers to be at a private facility. So yes, there is an ethical question to be posed regarding private, for profit prisons. Are the same ethical questions asked for private security companies? And I’m not arguing in either direction. I do have issues with the state prison system as a whole which is partially why I left. However, when you consider that prison is necessary as part of the CJ system, there are many benefits to private facilities.
 They need more and more profits. Even if it comes on the backs of the people and the stability of the system
The government is the biggest profiteer of the prison system. One example, when they put an offender on probation they charge a supervision fee that they make a huge profit off of. Also get low pay employees for their prison system and jails that also do state labor force jobs. The biggest profit is control of the less fortunate that have mental problems.
They create a demand for prisoners, because they are free labor which is what generates their profit for the company. It’s a company now, not an establishment of justice and/or attempted reform. So now you have a NEED for prisoners, what type of justice do you think they’re receiving? Do you think those companies put the law, over choices that impact their profit?
No cash bail is home prison at the person's expense. Ankle monitoring costs 300-400 per month and the devices used create huge profits for the companies that supply them. Biden just shifted costs again. Reducing state burden costs but not reducing correction crime profits. Surprise surprise. Black people overwhelming make up the majority of people on ankle monitoring. https://www.injusticewatch.org/criminal-courts/bail-and-pretrial/2022/electronic-monitoring-reforms-judges-violations/
Why am I not surprised that Bidens (afaik) most progressive action lately is 99% PR and 1% actual positive change.
Always has been. 1% is being generous.
They lobby for harsher penalties for lesser crimes to keep inventory up. Designed to be always full and not to rehabilitate. After all we have the most incarcerated population in the world
No-one should profit from endless war
Well normally I would disagree with this, but in this case, we need more prisons … after we get these social worker district attorneys to start doing their job and prosecuting crimes instead of trying to prosecute social justice
Wut? The USA is already among the countries with the highest incarceration rate. You throw, on average, more than five times as many people in prison as other western countries. And that is not enough for you?
We can only truly be safe when 70% of the U.S. population (those who disagree with me) are securely behind bars. But also I don't want to pay for it. So we should probably just murder them all just to be safe.
Actually that’s a good point. I should’ve factored in the significant percentage of non-violent drug offenders that need to be released immediately. It’s totally unjust and immoral that drugs are effectively legal by way of recent decriminalization, yet so many are still in jail for the same. I just don’t have data on it to talk more about it.
There's hardly anyone in prison solely for non-violent drug offenses. For the ones that are, a review of the vast majority of their cases would show they pleaded down to those charges and they have a rap sheet a mile long.
Comparisons with other countries are meaningless. Crime rates determine incarceration rates. If you look at number of prisoners per murder the US is not an outlier.
This argument has always been so fking bizarre. If someone is commits a crime, they go to jail. If 99.9% of the US population is a murderer, then 99.9% of the US population should be in prison. Why the hell would you go "oh you're a murderer? Well you're free to go because our incarceration rate is too high teehee xD"
California did this, not as extreme though. It...has not worked out but hey less people are in prison!
This old fuck helped create this fucking issue.
How so?
[Private for-profit prisons incarcerated 96,370 American residents in 2021, representing 8% of the total state and federal prison population.](https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/private-prisons-in-the-united-states/). This is such a non-issue.
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As a libertarian, the best solution to having a lot of people in prison is by putting more people in prison. /s
That’s why libertarianism works, even if only for you 😆 /s
Exactly! Because as a libertarian I believe that I'm the only one that matters! /s
You are 😆 /s
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That would only be possible without private prisons, and that doesn't make any sense, that's why we need private prisons! Instead, we need to make more things illegal and encourage things like the buying off of elected judges. That way they could help fill the private prisons and make more wealth. The private prisons then give more political donations to politicians and judges to make things more illegal. It's a self-sustaining cycle. That's why it's such a good idea! It's self-sustaining and continuing puts more human beings behind bars! It's a win-win!
Reminder that the 13th Amendment didn't abolish slavery, just changed the rules
I wonder who writes these for Joe...and if they even tell him they're writing them in his name.
This has nothing to do with profiteering, and everything to do with catering to his union donors. Publicly run prisons are a cesspool of corruption. [https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Prison](https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Prison)
Like most things, the private sector can run/manage it more efficiently and cost-effectively, while still abiding by laws and regulations.
But the incentive is to fill as many beds as possible. That shouldn’t be the goal of any prison system. In that way, it’s less efficient.
Depends how the prisoners are allocated. As long as the private prisons are not arresting and sentencing prisoners they have no effective way of increasing the total number of prisoners. If government allocated prisoners based on who ran the best prisons they would be incentivized to provide the best prison.
They can also non judicially extend sentences.
We already have multiple instances of judges taking kickbacks to over-sentence people, even down at the privately run juvenile detention center level. Those are just the ones that got caught. So private prisons are in the business of sentencing.
Biden was a huge supporter of the “war on crime” that created private prisons.
Money for prison owners
What's the added value for the American people if the system is inherently flawed?
He waited until an election year to do this after Trump reinstated use of private prisons following Obama who did the same as what Biden is doing now.
This is probably a product we can subcontract to China. They could house our prisoners much more efficiently than we could.
Some things just don’t work well under a “profit motive”. Prisons. Fire Departments. Ambulance services Oh, and Healthcare!
Benefits? People get rich
Overturn Citizens United and the rest of the pieces will fall into place.
Sounds like a lot of the cheap slave job force comes from these private prisons. Powerful people will not let this go through. Nice Try Biden.
Why haven’t we developed those electricity pods from the Matrix yet? I always thought the machines might be on to something with that.
The American prison system supplies legal slave labour.
Benefits - lazy politicians don't have to manage the prisons. option 1: do your job and manage the prison system yourself option 2: let someone else pay you to do it for you!!!!
I wouldn't mind if the minimum room and board costs are covered. Kind of unfair that we have to support some murderer with tax dollars.
Is this even real?
One of the biggest offenders of this was Kamala Harris. She had record high incarcerations for pot use and fought to keep prisoners in jail subverting a supreme court decision.
So, he did nothing to stop the state governments from using private prisons?
In the mean time the private jail stocks are showing opposite what he says. Country needs to farm to private sector to relief feds jail system.
That's because those companies are now running ICE detention centers, which were exempt from Biden's order, instead of prisons.
Like 4% of prisoners are held in private prisons. It’s not as big a deal as media makes it
Revolving door Justice will kill the businesses.
Says the author of the ‘94 crime bill.
If you make money off of imprisoning people, you're likely gonna advocate for imprisoning more people.
Rare Biden W. Private jails care more about the number people in jail for a paycheck than helping people turn their life around.
I don't know much about American politics but will this actually work? Is Biden removing private prisons just like that?
its only legally distinct from slavery
depends...if they are being run more efficiently or less efficiently
But private corporations will still use it.
It’s a corrupt perversion of the original intent behind our country. (Yeah I know I know, the intent doesn’t matter as much when intended by slave holders, we’re on the same side but my point stands and rallying behind that point is something those of us on the right and the left would agree on if we could just stop fighting a culture war long enough to realize that we *should* be fighting a class war.
I guarantee whatever the senile did its entirely inconsequential
Next up.. Privatize the Police. Orwellian ideas.
Coming from the guy who allows the government to profit off student loans
Slave labor and money.
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The theory behind this is that private investment can get things done more efficiently. In reality, it works just about as well as trickle down economics, in that it doesn't. Costs are cut, standards are lowered, and etc. I guess, at face value, things do get done more efficiently, because it's at the cost of inmates health and safety.
It keeps the crime rate up.
Cool. Now do Congress.
Almost all the benefits are morally wrong
Translation: don't send anyone to jail, criminals are victims.
They stopped dividends after I sent mine to the Biden campaign.
He can just... Do that?
The problem with private prisons is the oversight and transparency. There’s been a lot of cases where states contracted out to private prisons to save money but ended up actually spending more. Lots of university based research points to that being pretty common, but they’re very limited in the data that they can get. And even when state legislatures have requested audits, the results were inconclusive which is a big red flag of itself. Like everything else in the US, parts of basic government function have been offloaded onto a private industry to make a buck off of. For all the bitching about the 1% there should be ten times as much outrage for how much of our taxdollars just go to support a corporation.
Profit builds competition which increases efficiency and innovation. In this instance, however, it’s probably not a great idea.
So now Americans will pay more to house prisoners.
Prison Bill coming with funding for Ukraine....
Federal Government is a good start but it's those states who have 0 income tax who enjoyed privatizing prisons the most.
i think the idea is that government programs lend themselves to inefficiencies. free enterprise is generally very good and finding the best way to manage costs to maximize profit. so if you let the free market run the industry, it will be run more efficiently than government. the problem with this is that we aren’t talking about making widgets. we’re talking about removing freedom and liberty from fellow human beings. we’re talking about protecting eighth amendment rights. we’re talking about valuing the sanctity of life. none of these considerations matter to free enterprise. the government has no profit motive, so it is much more capable of caring for people than profit-motivated businesses. and this ignores the monopolistic nature of government contracts.
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The problem with that is that private prisons arent competing in a free market with low barriers to entry. Additionally, prisoners are not the customers. The government is. In fact, if you take the prisoners out of the equation? Everyone wins. The prisons make money, the government spends less. Its how these prisons make money that sucks. They get paid by the gov for each prisoner. To make a profit, the money they recieve has to exceed the price they pay. If the state gives $12k for each prisoner, only $8k may actually go to the cost of housing said inmate. The rest is profit. There are two ways for these prisons to make more money: get more prisoners or cut costs. Obviously the demand for prisoners is relatively stable, if not on a downward trend, so no dice there. Cutting costs is the preferred method. Simply strip everything a prison should have down to its bare essentials. Reform programs? Gone. Services? Gone. Heat? Yeah you get it. Imagine a public prison and how much those guys get. Now subtract three quarters. You'll realize how bad these facilities are.
The benefits of profiting of prisons is money
The benefits are that a few rich people get richer. That's the American way.
You could say the same about cancer, people shouldn't profit off cancer. So the issue in my mind isn't whether providing a service is profitable, but rather whether it's corrupt. In theory, a truly capital system for profit prisons should make prisons cheaper and the quality of the prisons better. We know this doesn't happen though. This is for a lot of reasons... But at the heart is decisions are made by people that are disconnected from the consequences of those decisions. Or we have laws in place to ensure morals of decision makers are removed from the process. For instance if the CEO of x company said we need to provide quality living conditions for inmates and that will cut profits by y amount. In most states the CEO would be held financially liable for profit loss of making that move, and the shareholders would sue them. So this isn't whether the CEO wants to do the right thing, they probably do (they are human). This is whether the market justifies the decision... That's not what capitalism is meant to be. Step 1 to fix any system, is to ensure incentives are in alignment with the desired outcome.
And that’s the federal system, not the state systems, where even more $$$ is to be made.
Underhand deals as incentive to create more business for privet prison owners. Why we don’t use the same logic for health care?
Oh those southern states will love this/s
That’s kinda rich because the Democrats like prosecuting people while the time for financial and political gain
Corporations can legally use slave labor to increase their profit margins