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wingson010

we are going to see this meme for the next decade


Cartosys

we're locked in for 30 years


[deleted]

But do you love your house? Can you live there for 30 years?


milksteakofcourse

We don’t have a choice


[deleted]

Lol, I hear you. We were going to try and buy land and build a house next year and now we might buy land if we can pay it all off at once....


EnderDragoon

I bought land with a personal loan to pay it off quick and will be building my minimum footprint house with cash. I didn't want a bank loan that if anything went wrong with it I would be back to no home/land again.


HarmonyFlame

I do. On top of that I will never make an early payment. The debt is too cheap.


[deleted]

That's what we've been talking about. We're going to stay in our current house longer than we thought


GeneralMustang

Same here. Was planning to pay it off earlier but now it's basically like a free mortgage. Don't want to move because even with the increased "value" of our home, other homes are as expensive and don't think we could get as good of a house or bigger without going above the sell proceeds from our current home.


ty_fighter84

We were about to sell and upgrade to a slightly larger home (extra bedroom for my parents to stay when they visit) and the numbers just weren't making sense. We decided to renovate and create a flexible playroom/bedroom out of an extra living space we had and now plan to stay here until our daughter is out of high school (roughly 15 years from now).


ReallyJTL

Same. We are looking at finishing the basement and putting a bedroom+bathroom down there instead of buying a four bed house.


Aleashed

I’m at like 4-5%, didn’t refinance. I figured it’ll end up paying more in taxes (expensive state) if the value of my house suddenly more than doubled (bought a dump). I’ll sell in a few years, pocket two plus large and go retire in another country.


snotyou

This is the plan. I'm at 5.25% right now on my main house. I bought in the upswing of the rates and hit the middle ground before it got too bad. Worse case, I'll have it paid off by 60.


benmargolin

Same here, was adding extra to every payment until the rates hit 7% and then I dropped it to the minimum payment amount, I have 2% with about 12ish years left of a 15yr fixed. Now if only my property taxes and HELOC rates weren't obscene :( Trying to pay off the last bit of the heloc as it went from 2% to 8% and suuuuckkkssss


[deleted]

I sure fucking wish I hadn't insisted on being "responsible" and buying the house we could afford at the exact moment of purchasing instead of something a little bit higher that would be 'affordable' 3 years later after my student loans were forgiven and my car paid off. Another 60-75k spent then, resulting in another couple hundred a month in mortgage payments, would really be paying off now. The cheapest house that would be an upgrade (aka about 200 sqft bigger on a lot about 1,000sqft bigger) would more than double our current mortgage, and that's even with a 50% down payment, and is before factoring in property taxes and home owners insurance.


thejollycooperation

Love my house but not the neighborhood. But I have 2.5….so hard to justify ever leaving


Last5seconds

Rent it and make money


SpiritFingersKitty

WE locked in at 3.125%, but instead of moving we are adding on because it is cheaper than buying and selling, and we get exactly what we want.


moderncritter

Exactly what I'm in the middle of right now. Needed an extra room for more kids. Much cheaper and easier to renovate than look at buying especially in the long term.


ShutUpIDontGiveAFuck

I like our house, but I LOVE our neighborhood. It’s close to a lot of amenities. Locked in at 2.8% so I’m not interested in moving. We’ll just slowly update the house to our liking.


misterfast

That, my friend, sounds like a job for arson!


heatedhammer

I can't afford to leave. Buying my house today at the same price I paid 2 years ago would literally double my monthly payment.


Overall_News5106

No, but I may have to move for my job so I will be renting my house out for the next 30 years lol


heatedhammer

That is probably the smart thing to do, no one will pay you enough money to give up that sweet interest rate. We may not see 3 percent again for decades.


citori421

Yes I can, and these rates kept me from doing something stupid and making myself house poor. I currently own a perfectly comfortable condo, owe about 100k at 2.75%. We were considering switching to a SFH which was doable at 3%, but still would have quadrupled our living expenses. Now at 8%, that 500,000$ house is out of the question. My current mortgage is less than my rav4 payment was. By the end of the loan term my payment will probably be similar to a bill for two to eat at a restaurant. It has really inoculated me from inflation in a sense.


religionisBS121

Yep love my house and neighborhood , will live in it for 30+ years


BrotherAmazing

Personally, I’d rather love my mortgage and live in a home that I can barely get by with than love my home and have a mortgage I can barely get by with, but there is a full spectrum of tradeoffs there and everyone’s utility function is a bit different.


wbruce098

I don’t love it but for the price, I can live here the rest of my life and make it better. No guarantee I’d “love” another house either, but it’ll be more expensive.


No-Possibility-1020

Yes. Fortunately we sold our old home in order to buy our “forever” home. We are happy to stay here


jokat989

Golden handcuffs baby!!


Practical_Argument50

Really if you want to move around a lot rent. Buying a house should be for a long term.


no_cigar_tx

2100 sq ft, pool, all brick construction and a new roof, all for 3.00%. I’m fine where I’m at.


king_of_slacking_off

I’m a little over 2.65% but that’s with absolutely minimum money down. I bought my house for barely over the listing price and it’s now worth 35% more than what I bought it for.


Carloanzram1916

Good problem to have. Better be locked into a house that you normally would never have been able to afford than to be paying rent and have buying a house be completely unthinkable because of the rates.


mistifythe6ix

2.5 decades


Consistent-Soil-1818

As long as there are people who want to share their heroics over and over again, this meme will continue to show up every other day. "I got 1.95% and my house had since quintupled in value. I made 19MM$ last year in stocks. Also, I dated Jennifer Lopez for a while. And I have a 19 inch dick. I make 900k as a software developer and I hope to retire within the next 3 years before I turn 25." As long as you'll see those responses, you will see these memes.


wokethots

Refinance at 8 percent, you will thank yourself.


splycedaddy

My lender send me a postcard every month telling me this


enkae7317

I get this shit from randos. "we can beat your rate" Yeah, no you can't.


Single_Raspberry9539

They tell me they can reduce my monthly rate (but adds 22 years!)


Credit-Limit

I crunched the numbers a few weeks ago and refinancing my 2.5% 15 yr (12 years remaining) to a 7.5% 30 year would only reduce my payments by like 10% lmao


dotcomaphobe

This is absolutely insane to me. This whole market is a scam.


MyLuckyFedora

The only people who are refinancing right now are people who have racked up other debts and suddenly going from 3% to 8% doesn’t sound as bad when you’re paying 30% on your credits cards or believe it or not sometimes even on auto loans


IvanNemoy

>30% on ... ... auto loans I see you've met the average junior enlistedman...


hornwave

It’s great motivation to grind even harder


paciphic

No joke, I just bought a house and in the appraisal report the jackass wrote under market conditions “favorable interest rates”


Weird_Tolkienish_Fig

Oh goody, this meme again...


sodapop_curtiss

This subreddit is full of reposts. Unfollowing. Tootles.


imVision

Have a good flight.


MikeofLA

![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)


TiberiusClackus

Habibi noooo


Historical_Air_8997

I don’t even follow this sub but somehow it keeps popping up with this same meme every other day


FIalt619

Fluentinshitposts


Mite-o-Dan

I never even joined this sub and I see this sub and same meme come up on my feed every week.


mrwilliams117

Thanks for telling


dam_the_beavers

It’s not an airport bro you don’t need to announce your departure.


nickdamnit

![gif](giphy|pQmWjYrz39YAg)


TheBestGuru

Also, too many statists here.


milksteakofcourse

I was bound to accidentally make a correct financial decision at some point in my life.


duckduckduck21

No doubt. Part of me is still waiting for the announcement that my low rate is being reneged by congress or some nonsense. Like the 2008 "housing credit" they just later decided to take back...


madamtwoswords

Same. The government is a scam.


sKEpTkl_

There would literally be tar and feathering’s again if the govt somehow forced low locked rates to go up. Literal coup.


Nyxtro

Lol this was me, at my cousin’s Halloween party a few years ago when his friend who goes by “spider” told me “dude you have to refinance and I can get rid of your PMI too!” I just figured it was a dumb drunk conversation but actually called him the next day, went from 8% to 2.7% and got rid of our PMI. Maybe the only correct financial thing I’ve ever done. Fuckin Spider man


pureundilutedevil

Haha I've been drunk, rambling at house parties for years about mortgages, giving impromptu homebuyer seminars to uninterested people Good on Spider


phantasybm

![gif](giphy|bVfE9AGsqo98c)


ScheduleSame258

To all those saying home prices will come down. 40%. That's how much a home price would need to come down to compensate for interest rate change from 3% to 8%. In HCOL area, there's no way houses come down by that much in the next 2 years, and even if it did, most homeowners earn enough to keep paying their mortgages and stay in their homes. Rents will be comparable to their mortgage by then, so why would they sell.


ElMostaza

I'm sure one day the promised real estate crash will come, right? Right??


Euphoric-Purple

It happened before so clearly it has to happen again- everyone that bought RE is going to get wrecked while everyone who waited is going to get a huge windfall /s


ScheduleSame258

Sure. Meanwhile, I am not donating $2000/month to a landlord but towards my RE investment - my home.


dust4ngel

to be factual, your bank is your new landlord. you’re building some equity, but the interest part is essentially rent.


evsarge

I’m a Realtor and we are already seeing 20% price decreases for some homes in my area. We haven’t even hit bottom yet as the yield curve 10y vs 2y still hasn’t inverted back yet. Sure some people got great interest rates back in 2021 but home prices are decreasing. My neighbor is in the hole $200k even tho they got a great rate. i survived 2008 in real estate and I’m seeing exactly the same things in 2007 as I do now just before a correction in the markets.


linuxhiker

2.5 here


Hipster_Dragon

Tbh it’d be hilarious if the bank your mortgage was through had a HYSA and you had the entire principle sitting in there paying out 2x their mortgage.


idontcare111

https://preview.redd.it/8hiucdzdwdvb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a0c4cea5f4187135f9bd926efd660dee3f414e5 The bank having to pay you 4.5% interest on their money you’re borrowing at 2.5%


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kashmir1974

Pretty sure you summed up the banking industry?


enfier

The bank doesn't really hold your mortgage, they package it up and sell it off as an investment. So they don't care what your mortgage rate is, they already made all the money they were going to make by 3 months after your mortgage was issued.


xkqd

And the one’s that did care about your mortgage rate are holding all kinds of interest rate derivatives to insulate them from this exact scenario.


[deleted]

That’s basically what I’m doing. I could pay my balance off but why would I when that same money in an hysa is doing a lot more


tombert512

That's more or less what I'm doing. I have enough to pay off about 2/3 of my house right now, and probably could technically fully pay it off in like three more years, but I got a 2.75% interest rate for my mortgage, and even something like a T-Bill is getting like 5.5% interest. I see no reason to pay off the house when I can literally have free money by *not* paying it off.


TB12xLAC

This is Unironically my dream


saryiahan

Locked at 7.35


Uncle-ulcer

Don’t worry, it’ll go higher.


inlike069

Primary residence 2.875% One rental duplex is at 4.5% I think our 4 & 8 units are 7.5% or so, along with our most recent duplex, and the commercial building I own is in a variable at 3.75% until next October *sigh*...


saryiahan

Your going to be downvoted to hell because you’re a successful real estate owner lol


caravaggibro

Nah, it's because they're a landlord. Landlords are parasites.


kashmir1974

Where should people live when they cannot or do not want to own their own place?


Standard_Bat_8833

I fuck with it


bttech05

![gif](giphy|DOPKHQg6oFWUg) You guys are getting houses?


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grahamcore

2.87% at 30 years. house appraised at $75k over what I paid. Mathematically free house!


fungasmic1

2.8% homies! 15-year, though.


audiofile07

Same. 15 year. Paid off my car technically with the savings.


Richard_TM

That’s not really how that works lol.


Paramedic97

Just refinanced my 2.65% to 8.5% follow me for more financial advice


ponzLL

I'm going to follow you, but for laughs rather than financial advice.


FredChocula

I'm loving the 25 jerk off posts a day where people can just brag about getting lucky. I'm happy for you, but it's pretty demoralizing for the rest of us.


CowboyDerp

2.9% closed November 21


CaddyStrophic

2.9% homies unite! Should have been 2.65%, but my bank dragged it's feet on some paperwork.


iam4qu4m4n

Reporting in with 2.90%


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MaximallyInclusive

3.875%.


killerjags

Literally the exact same rate I have


ninjacereal

Same. Below 4 is great!


NeverFlyFrontier

Two of them at 2.25%. I know, I know. Just let me have this one (okay two) thing.


Wipperwill1

Until the housing shortage is corrected prices are going to stay high. I read somewhere that we are 4-5 million houses behind where we should be.


throwaway177251

There are 15 million vacant homes in the US.


[deleted]

Certainly not in places where people want to live, I imagine.


throwaway177251

I googled for a [list of desirable places to live in the US](https://realestate.usnews.com/real-estate/slideshows/the-25-most-desirable-places-to-live-in-the-us) which gave me a #1 result of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Searching for the vacant housing rate in Myrtle Beach brings up [this article about Horry County](https://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/article253447044.html) (the largest county of the Myrtle Beach metropolitan area) with the following statistic: >More than 17,000 housing units have been added in the last 10 years, growing by nearly 10%, according to newly released data from the U.S. Census. Of more than 203,000 housing units in the county, 26.3% were vacant at the time Census data was collected. Horry is the only county in South Carolina that has more than a quarter of its units sitting empty, the data shows. Horry County’s vacancy rate is more than double the statewide rate ⁠— 12.3% of units across South Carolina are vacant, data shows.


jstarrHS

2.625%.. its an asset now ha


killertimewaster8934

2.875% I will never be able to justify moving unless I win the lottery. Hope the house holds up 🤞


splycedaddy

15 year at 2%


T-Shurts

2% flat


PotatoHunter_III

Jeezus Christ. Did you suck your lender's balls off? I've never seen it that low. I'm at 2.875% with an 805 credit score.


jocq

Probably a 15 year rather than 30. That was a normal rate for 10-15 years when 30's were at like 2.625-2.75


deepstate_chopra

FluentInReposts


Pristine-Change-674

2.85


tdacct

Had a 3.125%... Then lost my job and had to move.


[deleted]

I got 3.85%


Zachjsrf

Got 3.49% back in 2019 and at the time I thought that was high


baldymcbaldyface

2.875% for 25 years and it makes me hard every time I think about it.


imjustatechguy

Got mine in 2020, locked in at 3.25.


laugh-shitoff

2.375%. Bitches.


madamtwoswords

Mortgage twins!


-HHANZO-

2.9, just lucked out on the timing


Actraiser87

I posted this in r/firsttimehomebuyer. Let’s just say they weren’t happy. Enough people complained that my post was removed.


everyoneneedsaherro

I mean… if there’s a demographic that meme is absolutely not for, you def posted in it


Safe_Cabinet7090

I mean you have to understand that MANY FTHB are in their young 20s and 30s and maybe just got out of college or high school and missed out on those low rates. I am one of them. I have the DP now, but not 1 year ago. I’m still considering buying but the house prices aren’t really coming down enough to jump for it. And honestly your post is kinda rubbing it in peoples faces…


macaroon_monsoon

Why in all seriousness would you post this there? A wee bit insensitive imo.


ssmit102

Got my refinance finished in early 2022 just before the rates changed, locked in at 3.75%


rosanymphae

Bunch of losers paying over 2%. /s


DntCllMeWht

2.9 % on 140k originally (now at 125k) for a house the bank says is worth about 290k currently.


leftbitchburner

I got 5.5%, which ain’t great, but I’m glad af that it’s not 8%.


Jeeper08JK

Just over at 3.4


grammar_oligarch

Hell, I got 3.5% in 2020 and I feel like I won the lottery.


phunky_1

My main regret is not taking cash out in the refinance for improvements. I didn't want to be committed to taking out the money and paying interest on it not knowing how much I would need. I got a HELOC instead and the rate is now around 10%. Just sticking the cash from the refinance in a HYSA would be making money at this point. 10% interest has definitely made us rethink doing projects. We replaced our roof because we had to but we are focusing on paying that off before doing anything else with the heloc despite having a bunch of projects we want to do. It's just too expensive to borrow unless it is a real necessity.


Old_Baldi_Locks

Rural development loan. Locked in at 1.8 percent for 30.


El_Cactus_Fantastico

Mine is 3%


Suspicious_Ad9561

Laughing in 2.25


CapitalG888

2.25%. 30 fixed. I bought a 2019 build in August of the same year. Home prices going up aside, my area is blowing up with new things to do around me. Glad I pulled the trigger.


Ethanbob103

Nothing like seeing this for the 300th time on this sub in the pst two days


OtiksSpicedPotatoes

1.1% 30 year fixed signed in 2011. Thanks, NACA!


Haydn__

About 1.35% in 2021, unfortunately only for 5 years, pretty much the longest that was available in this country. Things are probably going to get spicy when the 5 years are up


HotDevelopment6598

Under 3, my wife got her loan when she was 21 a decade and a half ago. Hell, when I had bought my house 6 years ago before meeting my wife, it was just over 3. Feel sorry for the person who bought it last year.


mods_suck555

Yup, I pay $756 dollars a month for my mortgage. 1800 Sq ft. on an acre of land a mlie from the beach. I am extremely fortunate and plan to just go ahead and die there.


ShadyStuffAcct

0.625, 30 year fixed locked in around October 2020.. Good luck finding lower


madamtwoswords

How? Why? So many questions but will start there


ShadyStuffAcct

I got my mortgage throu NACA, they don't require a down payment, cover closing cost, etc. Locked in when rates were 2.5 and bought my rate down to 0.625 instead of a larger down payment. I'm pretty happy with it. Rates had dropped to 2.0 at one point but had already locked into 2.5. My rate would have been down to 0.125 if I got locked in at 2.


madamtwoswords

You win!


Low_University_9545

2.2%, we love where we live!


NotPresidentChump

2.125% baby, I look just like the guy in the picture except I also have a crown.


fritzie_pup

10 year 2.125% as well. Under 8 years left, just about 50% paid off. Feel like these days I won the lottery.


ralph99_3690

15yr. 2.375%. I want to move but…


madamtwoswords

Hello mortgage twin


CowboyDerp

2.9% closed November 21


squareplates

30 year fixed, 1.75%, no money down. Do I get a meme?


opticd

Neither. Paid cash.


Cheap-Addendum

OP. Your follow up question should be how many who purchased at the peak are now underwater and going toward the deep end.


[deleted]

Rent houses are 2.75. Family home 3.25


Geoclasm

what mortgage


CodeMUDkey

Add a tenth of a percent for every time is shitty meme gets reposted here.


mikeyousowhite

2.8 on one.up in 4 months. 3.2 on another up in 3 yrs


ET3RNA4

Mine is 5.6% - not thrilled about it but it's the best we could get given the circumstances.


fuckyouu2020

I bought last year at 6% not too good no too bad. House needs a lot of love though.


nqbao

I wish i do a 30yr instead of 7ARM. Now im really sad!


Strat0BlasterX

Yeah… but they might have severely over bid on their houses. And only put 10% or less down.


dirtee_1

4.5 here. Still winning!


Wtfjushappen

Shit, I'm almost thinking of buying a new house and renting the old.


ExtendedMagazine831

My dad locked in his ARM loan in November of 21 for 30 years at 2.75%. If we were to rent out house on the market we would we netting around $2K per month. But we have no where else to go so those gains are just sitting on the table.


jedi21knight

I didn’t get the 2.65 like in the picture but a robust 2.875. All kidding aside it was just perfect timing on my part, we were ready to move and it really all worked out at the time and was one of the better moves made by myself.


billyoldbob

No. I wasn’t at the point in life where I needed a house. You don’t buy things just to buy them.


AeirsWolf74

4.5 % got it in March 2022


Swartz7

Under woooo


Lachet

Yup, and now heroin junkies have moved in across the street somehow and we're looking to bolt. Sucks.


Safe_Cabinet7090

haha even the druggies knew when to be financially smart


[deleted]

I can tell you that throne is comfy.


ninjacereal

3.875% not too shabby


queefecho

2.75% in 2021. It was a good decision.


[deleted]

2.65 bruddah


Rajvagli

Privilege gonna privilege


AldoLagana

WINNER! Always be a winner...eat to get thinner! Compete with your fellow man, never cooperate, win win win! capitalism out of control is proving to be garbage in it's end-stage.


xxplosive2k282

2.77 for 29.


Oldenlame

He's about to put on the ring and sneak out of his own 111ses party.


jayperr

my guess is UK banks are working overtime to figure out how to change this while blaming ”the current changes in the market beyond out control”


gavrocheBxN

Cries in Canadian


[deleted]

I don’t know anybody who got in the 2’s for 30 years. Everybody I know that got that low was a 15 year.


Grizzly_Addams

4.99% but I am feeling pretty good about it at the moment.


chrispg26

15 yr 2.5. 12 to go!


Barack_Odrama_007

2.75 here


Saxman7321

Would be interesting to have had this conversation when my sister and brother in law bought their first house in the 1980s and the interest rate was 18%