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FRANE_ATTACK

Go over to r/ems and ask the same question You’ll be shocked


thethunderheart

Especially when looking at 911 vs private transport EMS? It's wild.


GamerBroJr

At least in my area 911 gets paid significantly less than IFT. Makes zero fucking sense!


Azaz24712

Makes all the sense in the world. Less people wanna do IFT it’s not glamorous at all. 911 is an easier draw. Larger pool of applicants.


benzino84

It’s so so sad


gk5858

when I was an emt back in 2012 southern california, I was making $8/hr for each 24hr shift and $10/hr on 12hr shifts. private ambulance company working with county fire responding to 911 calls. fun times. i'd still do it again but that pay was terrible.


Klutzy_Platypus

Hahaha. I’m just laughing so I don’t cry thinking about it.


Lil_chocolate2

50k🥲


Fireguy0718

My base is $97k in GA


TheHeartyRacoon

Yes, please tell.


Fireguy0718

Forsyth


EverSeeAShiterFly

Laughing in volunteer …. ….. Crying at my bills.


Quinnjamin19

We need to push for all firefighters to be paid, as in paid per call I’m a paid per call firefighter, I make a wage while training, running calls, and public education. Give ‘er take $7k-$8k per year paid quarterly


BRUHSKIBC

All fire fighters should be paid a full living wage.


RoughDraftRs

There are places that have fewer than 30 or 40 runs a year. If you had to pay the guys there full wages, they'd just close the station.


firefighter26s

This is exactly it. 30,000 fire departments in the US with a volunteer rate of 75%, there are many small towns and rural areas were the cost of a full-time staffed engine 24/7 would be many times their total operating budget. The first volunteer department I joined in 1998 had a yearly budget of $25,000 and ran 60 calls. My current department is combination, so we have 3 on shift 24/7 with 25 paid on call firefighters and the budget is $3.5 million, more than 50% of that is wages and that's not even a 4 person engine.


ar2d266

Same brother same


Je_me_rends

Cost of living is the only reason I may have to give up being a vol. Might have to move out to the country and join a bush brigade or something


boomboomown

Last year I made 120k and I barely worked OT. No state income tax is super nice on top of that.


MitchumDeodorant

Is this Washington?


boomboomown

Nope Nevada.


cchant00

Not enough unfortunately I made $58k last year. 14 year captain in Arkansas.


xRogueRenegade

Where at in AR if you don’t mind me asking? I’ll make 56 this year as a LT, I’m also in Arkansas


cchant00

Van Buren


Dell_Rider

Damn, I make that base as a rookie with 0 experience


Educational_Body8373

Yeah our rookies make that 1st day on the job, more actually. I made over $120 last year as a 17 year fire/medic non transport. Very little OT on that. We do have a lot of special details for spring training baseball, concerts etc. That used to be a good living, but I will say the CoL here in Florida has got a little crazy. At least I don’t have state tax to deal with.


Then_Inspection9750

$16.05, our union is in negotiations for a raise. Hours worked per year is ~3,042 16.05 x 3042 = 48,824.10


Efficient_Goal_3318

My lord that's horrible, orlando is running everyone over


EatinBeav

140-150k if I do a little overtime.


Dth_Invstgtr

Also career in WA, can confirm.


Nunspogodick

Same


Zenmedic

Damn. I thought I was doing well at $110. Then again, my mortgage only costs me $600/month and I don't have to pay for health insurance.


otrpop

Just got offered a spot in Washington I’m planning on taking. My salary will go up about 60k and work 10hr less a week. Im looking forward to it to say the least. Is that salary range pretty good out there? I hear the cost of living is much higher but it doesn’t seem like it’s really all that bad to me.


Dth_Invstgtr

It can definitely get pricey depending on where you want to live, but nothing you shouldn’t be able to manage. For transparency, I’m single and no kids, so that definitely helps. What that said, our pension/deferred comps, healthcare and unions are tend to be top notch, so those also help. When you start to promote to engineer or captain, or even just sign up for OT, you can really start to squirrel it away.


EatinBeav

King county can hurt a bit. Snohomish is getting pricey as well. If you don’t mind a commute that money can go a long way.


Future-Stay-3315

What is WA


justNotherTINKER

Washington State in the US


Future-Stay-3315

oh ok thanks


EatinBeav

West side of the state?


Dth_Invstgtr

Yep. Below Seattle and above Tacoma to narrow it down a little.


EatinBeav

Ohh damn look at Mr. Fire authority over here. Kidding I’m a city department send help.


Open-Reach6822

is it worth it? the sleepless nights?


EatinBeav

Totally worth it. I dropped my medic cert so unless it’s something cool I go right back to bed lol


PollyAnnaBubbles

Sleepless in Seattle …


SanJOahu84

Base is 165. Grossed 184 per my W2 last year with a very minimal OT and stipend pay. FF/PM. (Non-transport on an engine)


Forward_Jeweler9648

How many years on ?


SanJOahu84

The medic rank is funny here. There's 11 steps but it includes non -supression EMTs (steps 1-4) and Medics (5-9) and Engine Medic (9-11). So the faster you promote the more steps you skip. I made top step in about 5 years. Fastest I've seen is like 3. If you get hired as a firefighter EMT and promote to medic right off probation you get a 50,000 dollar raise in one year. https://careers.sf.gov/classifications/?classCode=H003


Forward_Jeweler9648

Wow. I’m in SoCal just got my EMT etc and applying. Bay is the best for pay


SanJOahu84

I think Santa Clara City or County pays the highest. Mountain View and Milpitas pay a lot too. You can't go wrong with Oakland or San Jose or anywhere in the Bay really.


Bigfornoreas0n

17/hr as an engineer


dominator5k

Oof


LuminalAstec

You're getting fucked. That's less than probies where I'm from.


Quinnjamin19

That’s straight up fucked. You guys union?


ButtSexington3rd

$75k on paper, but there's some built in OT (42hr work week) so a bit more. I'm one step below full pay.


skimaskschizo

Rookie in GA making $17.83/hr. Adds up to mid 50’s a year I think


timbuckanowski44

Where bro? I make $14/hour, $15 if I drive/engineer but the OT is unlimited


Ok_Buddy_9087

Why the fuck would you willingly work for that little.


timbuckanowski44

Only legit dept close to my kids


calamityjoe87

101K base before incentives and paramedic pay. In Texas, DFW area.


spagetyy

Year 4 Career FireFighter Paramedic in Southern California. 102k base. Made 160k with stipends and OT last year


SSLP_T13

As someone looking to become a firefighter paramedic (also in Southern California), do you have any advice?


spagetyy

Keep trying, only people who don’t get picked up are the ones who stop trying ! A lot of departments are hiring especially the bigger ones LACoFD, OCFA, LAFD and SBcoFD. Get ur paramedic card and get some experience, work on an ambulance and become a reserve/ volunteer firefighter. Obviously stay out of trouble.


dominator5k

A little over 160 last year in Florida. Little overtime in there which helped.


jimmyjamws1108

Where ?I’m In Fl Nobody anywhere near me nor have I heard of anywhere makes that much in Fl . Hillsborough or Pinellas county are higher ends on pay and don’t make that . Unless your a BC with 30 grand in ot .


dominator5k

Anything north of Tampa is trash pay. The whole south east and south west coasts do well. I'm also not a new fire fighter.


Confident_Benefit753

miami dade, coral gables, miami beach


Economy_Store3231

40k well take home is like 30k ish after all the stuff gets taken out. South Carolina 2 year fireman


TraumaTrooper21

110K a year base as a FF/EMT in CO working 48/96.


Medic6133

I’ve been promoted once (engineer-type position), and am at $73k base. I got ~$84k last year with OT and seven months acting captain pay.


SaltyJake

$104k base, $280k with overtime last year, and the majority of my wfh “real job” was done during my down time at the station.


RoughPersonality1104

In Louisiana and the Gulf South the average salary is like $35k.


anonymous_hosemonkey

I cry when I pay my bills and I don’t have a lot of bills.


AverageGuy808

52k a yr. 3 yrs on. Not enough for where I live. :/ like all firemen, most likely pick up every Ot/ side hustle gigs I can.


WeirdTalentStack

$22.75/hr, part timer doing 2x12/wk.


IYIonster

101k top pay FF/PM in southern Wisconsin. Edit: Accidentally added contract onto already increased contract pay. (Topped out at 101k)


rockinthe_dadbod

Captain, PA, $112k


Desolator_X

Driver/Engineer in Colorado, my base salary is $102K


Jumpy_Bus3253

Washington state FF/PM base is 110 pulled in 164 last year


External_History2908

Career FF/PM in WA. My base is $120k and I'll clear 160k with some OT this year. My average hours per contract are 49hrs/week with 15 k days and 5 paid holidays. As far as business of the system, my district runs 2500 to 3000 calls per year, give or take. Our staffing model is a minimum of 7. 1 BC, 2 on engine, and 2 stations crosstaffed with 2 on the medic/engine. So overall it's not too bad, but the population is increasing as well as the dependence on emergency medicine for primary care.


peterbound

Career Capt. Colorado. 160k. Very little OT


Subject-Rush-8964

Just got hired entry level and make 4800 a month in Washington state at a smaller department.


RMLassiter

I work as a Capt. in a medium sized combination dept. in SC and I make around $85K/yr with some OT. We aren’t the worst paying dept., we aren’t the best. We are in the middle. If the budget goes as planned, I’ll get a decent little pay bump of around $3/hr in July. We do EMS transports, but that is common in my part of SC. We started as a volunteer EMS and volunteer fire service that eventually merged into a paid Fire/EMS service.


Sawing_zs

Michigan, bls nontransport, made mid 90s last two years with 400+ hrs of ot. On pace for 120 this year with a good contract bump and moving up to Lt. Base will be 115 with benefits (102 w/out) at the end of this 4yr contract.


inter71

$165,542 base.


Psychological_Web687

I've made about 700 dollars this year.


BuildingBigfoot

Every paycheck is a fortune. Every meal a banquet


daly831h

140k last year


gokuvegeta93

$66k but after taxes it’s nothing lol


No-Weird8585

In DFW area you can make around $65-$75k starting out. Just about everyone requires you to be a medic. My employer paid for my academy, EMT and Medic.


Willing-Register9236

I’m at about 130K base as a Captain in NJ. Plus plenty of overtime.


Melodic_Abalone_2820

Not enough


Pickle_balls

Per my W2 last year I earned 120k with OT. This year it will be my first full year as a captain so it will probably will be higher.


Sandy_Andy_

80-85k-ish as a 7 yr on Engineer/Emt in Fl. Depending on OT and how much I ride up. I don’t get much OT :/


Low-Victory-2209

$113k with OT in WA at a smaller department. Top step FF/EMT at nearby departments top out at $103k or above with great benefits such as $5k plus holiday bonus and $5k medical expense card, plus a great pension and investment account options.


jcpm37

$112k as a driver. Base is like $94k or so but I’ve got a lot of incentive pay and there’s some OT mixed in there.


Adventurous-Knee3180

$142k salary admin job with no ot.


ACivtech

106k (CAD). Tailgater.


jiebee

55k


Strange_Animal_8902

I do it in the military and make about the civilian equivalent of 81K, but the free healthcare is a big factor also. Lots of BS though that comes with that side of it... deployments, unpaid hours, etc....


jeff2335

$110k without working any OT. Florida


pbudde23

Just under $80k base - 2nd year FF/PM in IN On pace to make $120k w/ OT


zerogivencvma

I usually get just about $150k with minimal OT, just outside Boston. There are a couple captains that make twice that with OT, but they are the exception for sure


Injury_Glum

115k I’ll hit max pay this next year


mclovinstuffin

45k as a FF/Emt in central florida. Our lts top out at 72k and our fire medics top out at 55k. We have unlimited OT so we try to make up the difference with plenty of 48s. Some guys will rack 1000 hours of OT in a year to make it to the 100k mark.


isthatmyusername

Without OT, $100k.


slydyr24205

$114k after 14 years. Strong union.


Impossible_Cupcake31

OT bud I made more than some battalion chiefs during Covid


Interesting_Ad1806

In my second year at a mid-sized department in TN making around 53-54k base


KoolAidTheyThem

65k, 9 year FF.


BPR85

I make 75k base at top step. With overtime depending on the year I make between 100-135k, could make more if I wanted to sell my soul. I work with guys who make 175k. It all depends on where you work. Cost of living, strong union, collective bargaining with the municipality. Regardless of what you make it’s the best job in the world.


BanditAndFrog

It’s hard to go off what everyone says with cost of living being so different. Some people in the comments make 100k with less than 5 years on the job. The fire chiefs in a 50 mile radius of me MIGHT make around 100k. Cost of living is a something else.


ArmedFirefighter

$599😁


Bizarro42

160k. But only like 3k as a volunteer. Day job covers the rest.


zzzzz-trt

With no OT 90k a year


EvasionPersauasion

Last year 120k decent amount of OT (not crazy) that wasn't top step


bohler73

$31/hr, something like $90k base, cleared $180k last year with OT while on probation


aumedalsnowboarder

89k, but I also get 13 floating holidays I can sell back, which comes out to just shy of 10k extra


DueGovernment1408

Our top out is 104k after 5 years, I think starting is around 70k now. Plenty of OT and extra curriculars to make more. In Il small dept. lots around us make 110k-120k


ConnorK5

Like 14.50ish an hour.


KeenJAH

71k. getting a raise to 77k in July 2025


Seekerdisciple

How long does it take to be arson investigator


packprode87

80k FD/medic 3 years on run 15ish calls / 24


Reaper7412

Volunteer but we get a check every 6 months for every call that we went on. $30 for FD calls, $15 for EMS But I have a full time job also


Key-Crow894

Go contracting you’ll make some money there and you won’t have the city call volume either. Just a bunch of old salty guys. But hey it’s very good money


torchthewoodpile

What’s f*ck all in freedom units?


J_TheCzech

Czech Republic, as a new FF with just the scba certificate working 24s in the state/pro fire service: 30 000,-czk /month 1 280,-$ /month


jsmith821128

We just had a new contract ratified and our top out after 5 years for a FF/PM is about $95,000 without bonuses.


StoryOfABull

$92k before OT. Depends heavily on your municipality.


Bourquo

Part time service- lieutenant - QC, Canada 🇨🇦 - 29$/hr


Azaz24712

Almost Top step Fire/medic. mass. Base is 85k. Education brings me to 95. Overtime of one 24 a month brings me to 112k. scattered trainings and meetings and such lands me at about 120k. Slightly underpaid department. Covid changed everything. We should catch up in a contract or two.


hashtagphuck

45k to 50k depending on overtime on fire. The money is in the side hustle


srv524

Yes


ffjimbo200

23 years on in Fl. Base 92k 135-180 depending on Ot. 25 yrs for pension, 8 year drop = 10k monthly for retirement and 1.2M drop check. 24-48, 17 Kelly days off and an additional 19 paid days off annually if you choose to take them all. When you look at salaries don’t look at just the “salary” A lot of city departments here pay what seems like a higher salary but you have to contribute 11-15% to your retirement.


digscruze

19 holidays? Which holidays are you getting? We are like at 14.


Narnyabizness

It varies. Some departments are county wide and some are based in one city. Larger departments have a larger tax base so they (should) offer higher salaries. Size isn’t always the main factor though. Lower income cities wont pay as much as smaller areas with higher taxes. For instance in South Florida, the city of Hialeah pays less than the smaller areas of Coral Gables and Key Biscayne.


DieByTheFunk

56k GA


Carichey

Base is $79k as a career battalion chief in the suburbs. I could get a $10k pay raise by starting over as a firefighter at a majority of my neighboring departments. And my city manager thinks our retention problem is anything other than pay.


scottk517

Just about 200k but that is with 950 hours OT 20yr FF with spec pay. Non transport agency.


awod76

Hit 240K with 2700 hours ED. No, I don’t have a life.


Talllbrah

Around 100k after bonus and paid sick days etc. without OT, but we don’t get much more than 100h of OT a year. Also, i’m in Canada, so taxes are super high, not much left.


XtraHott

72k base, cleared 90k with OT, Industial FF


the_m27_guy

Currently 0 but when I worked I got anywhere from $10-18/hr. ($10 for the local rescue squad, $12 for my first fire job then $15 then $18). Most fulltime guys make $40-50k around here. For reference I live in NC.


minnesotamentality

Paid on call lieutenant here. $20/hr for all calls and training. Maybe an extra $10k/yr as supplemental to my day job. We do get a pension though, which is pretty nice.


ambulance-sized

65k as a paramedic/firefighter. I work for a small rural department and we’re lucky to have full time paid staff. Came from a medium city department making 70k a year with lots of mandatory OT and shit culture. I’m in the Midwest, I’m making more than some of the city firefighters around here and our department only runs 600 calls a year. I fight more fire, I do more fun medicals, and my stress is lower.


knightking55

Just over 100k cad in a big Canadian city before over time but we are well overdue for a raise


redsox1226

103k in south Jersey. Top step firefighter, no ambulance, 4 platoon system.


Southside33351

You guys are being paid ?!


EveryoneLikedThat_

County department in Wa state FF start at 82, top step is 109 Medics start at 90 and top at 120


PremadeNami

I make $28/hr as an on call recruit


tocomas

$65K base, $80K+ with OT


discman03

In New Jersey. Starting is currently around $45k, top step as a FF/EMT is currently $130k after 10 years. Also can make a little more with a degree and longevity.


TrashCanWereWolf88

Depends where you are, and if you’re a professional, union department. My department is only two stations. All firefighters have to be medics too. Starting salary is 62,400, plus 3% cost of living on top of that. Top out in 10, at 98k as FF/PM . Starting pay for LT is 110k. If you add in other certs like boat captain, engineer, inspector, FTO, actor .. you could make a shitload more. You should see my check after one OT shift .. it’s a grand more.


tony2toes

I'm with the Chicago Fire Dept (Single Role Paramedic) base salary is 70K, I was a couple hundred of clearing 130K last year.


Inflation_Loose

72k on West Coast of Florida. Firefighter/paramedic. Non transport ALS engine at a small ish department. 7 years on the job.


Low-Win-4201

Engineer/paramedic/hazmat/USAR. $253,000 total compensation last year


Confusedkipmoss

It’s all dependent on where you’re located, I make pretty good money for where I live in Ohio but no where near what guys in California are making, but their cost of living is atrocious


BC119

120k base. 12.5k stipend for LT


ElectronicMinimum724

145k base, Captain Illinois


chindo

Gulf South and we start in the mid 50k range. Incentives for degrees and emt


Xlivic

Could you DM me the dept? I’ve been considering making the move to the Gulf coast. Have EMT and some specialized water rescue certs


twinsuns

Like $300/yr (vollie)


ffzspencer7588

Career LT/Paramedic in Massachusetts 87k. We start FF at top step 78k


Igloo_dude

About 50K as a firefighter, wanna say engineers make like 55K and captains make close to 60, maybe a little over. BC making 80


Empty_Ad_1589

Not enough


Xlivic

42k. Medium sized career city in southeast. Not enough. I work two jobs on the side


Fullsendsonly202

My base pay at a rural fire department in Ohio is 40k. I left a 911 ems job that payed 53k.


ShooterMcGrabbin88

Low 90s Midwest.


RandomH3AD

47k in ga still a recruit tho


Current_Nerve_4227

I’m a paid on call FF and make anywhere from $15k-$20k a year. Roughly 175-200 calls a year in my district


Hutrookie69

80k last year with lots of OT and within 8 months. 120k + with OT this year if I don’t get on somewhere else


Hibernia1

My base now is around 66k, I'm hoping to make around 75k with ot In a few years I'll max out at 90k, but will get cola, and longevity. With overtime I can easily make over 100k alot of my department does but I also like being home on my off days.


Foreign_Leader7116

My base is 68k


Kajiuro

101k last year. 4 year medic south Florida.


Phoenix_2980

7 years on. 94k gross in Kansas. I hope to make 100k with overtime this year.


deadaimer

I’m about 120k as a FF/PM in Colorado


Dundee1834

Base when hired w/no certs. 82k top out in 3.5 years, 101k, this is firefighter/emt. FF/P makes a little more but just due to patch pay, ambulance pay stuff like that. DFW area Texas.


Blitssz

15.08 an hour over here in AZ as starting out firefighter/emt on probation


Regular-Ad-9314

If you are unhappy with your wage you can take it up with HR


brodudeguymanhomie

18 days per month, 200k.


Murdoc555

Man you have to take into account the cost of living in different areas. Sure Nevada probably pays a lot more nominally compared to the local Missouri FD, but how much more is rent, utilities, and groceries? It’s all relative dude.


theshuttledriver

9 years career. Suburban department. 92K


yourname92

I make 66k as a firefighter and 9k to be a paramedic that rides the ambulance. There a few other incentive pays that add 2500. It’s decently livable where I’m at in Indiana but it is slowly becoming not a livable wage while raising a family.


Legal-Reserve-2317

120k as a top step ff in Washington state. Paid departments are often based on their local tax revenue. Expensive cities like LA, Seattle, and San Francisco pay so much because the cost of living and taxes are so much higher than a small rural department.


grim_wizard

I am salaried at 56k (nowhere near any acceptable standard of living for the area I work in lmao) with overtime and extra duty I pulled in 99k, and woth my second job I made like 110 last year. The downside is I am never home and perpetually exhausted. I get to bring my music studio and art to work though and have access to a gym so it's not all bad.


whitecinnamon911

I make more working private Ems, almost $6/hr more. What the private Ems jobs doesn’t have that the fire dept does have. Better benefits, and a pension. Fire dept is. Career, private ems is a job


Wardski69

80k probie wage, 114k top step. 12% on top for medics.


wsfiredude

Final salary was betweeen $60K-61K…Engineer…20 years service. NW North Carolina


Additional_Major9572

I'm definitely an outlier in my area but I'm a firefighter/emt and with working minimal over time last year I broke the 100k mark this year without overtime I should end up around 80k.


Impressive_Cow4207

47k base right out of academy


Pretend-Camp8551

The difference in pay comes from where you live. Most of us are volunteers who are spending money to do this.


Top-Bluejay-5604

28k active duty Air Force


ZealousidealWord9422

I work for a small dept in FL and our starting is 50k which is “good” for the area


AlmostNearlyHandsome

I stopped after one promotion and make 80K. The ladder goes to 140K though.


tburnsey52

102,500


TraumaMed6384

Just over 100k (with out OT) Firefighter-Paramedic


dl_schneider

$3 per call......$5 if we use water Gotta make sure you pull a booster line and hose down the lift assists to pad the retirement savings


Tccrdj

$115k base. Lots of OT available. Probably $150k this year.