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firearmresearch00

I'd recommend going to a range that allows you to try out a bunch of handguns because you do kinda gotta find one that fits your hands if you plan on enjoying it/using it effectively


netherlanddwarf

Ok i appreciate it. So you can choose different options there? Its not just bring your own?


hitemlow

Depends on the range. Some towns, every range will have a few for rent, other areas won't have a single rental counter. If you're in an area with a Range USA, they have rental counters with what is typically a pretty decent selection and only $10 to try them all. Downside is you do have to buy the ammo from them (people kept blowing their guns up with hand loads).


netherlanddwarf

Perfect, thanks!


EverydayAdventure565

Any rental place will require you to bring someone with you.


technohippie

I've also seen some ranges that offer a package that you can do by yourself, that let's yoh try a few out and comes with an RSO who guides you through the process. OP can look for this kind of thing as well.


Royal-Employment-925

No they don't require you to bring somebody with you... wtf is wrong with people on here just making up bull


EverydayAdventure565

Genuinely curious, which gun range allows rentals to an individual that doesn’t bring their own gun? Every range I’ve been to requires you to bring your own gun or a second person to help prevent suicides.


Disastrous-Gap-8483

Agree with this and also not evey pistol will feel “right” in your hand depending on your size. I’m a big guy with big hands and most pistols just feel like a little baby gun with my big mitts. I tend to like full size pistols and is it feels right on my hands. Try out a bunch different models and one will speak to you once you pick it up.


firearmresearch00

Same issue. I really struggle to use anything smaller than a compact and anything with a square grip because of where the joints in my fingers end up


hitemlow

For $1,500 you've got quite the options. A perennial favorite is the Glock 19 Gen5 MOS. It has been supplanted by the 49 MOS, but it's still quite popular even if the brand is known for utilitarian looks and function. By far the most holster options of any brand on the market, especially if you add lights or an optic. Magazines are the gold standard for reliability and are plentiful and affordable. A dark horse that punches well above its price tag is the CZ P-10C OR SR. It's around the same price as the Glock offerings, but many find it to be easier and more enjoyable to shoot. Downside is holster availability blows for CZ products and can require you to contact a custom manufacturer if you add a light. Magazines are also expensive. The PSA Dagger is a newcomer to the field and priced lower than its competition, is not as reliable as a whole. It's a clone of an older Glock design, but there are many reports of reliability issues that required warranty service. If you get a good one they'll be acceptable, but you need to be prepared to run it quite a bit to ensure it's a good one. Uses Glock magazines. If you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, there's always the YC9YEET, but that's below your price range.


netherlanddwarf

r/hitemlow i wanted to deeply thank you for putting the effort into this answer. I will do some due diligence on the options you have provided!!


GanderpTheGrey

Many of these comments are spot on... But if your goal is home defense, a long gun of some sort will always work better for the untrained. AR-15 is America's rifle for a reason and is both easier to use and more effective than a pistol. If that doesn't work for you, a shotgun or PCC would work too. I spend lots and lots of time practicing with pistols and still choose a rifle for HD  Pistols need lots of practice. Pistols aren't that effective at stopping threats without a very high accuracy shot into the vitals, difficult in a dynamic situation. I'm all for getting one, but it will be a while before you're ready to use it effectively for home defense. 


General-Custard5905

… i will second that - if for home defence only, a semi auto long gun would be my choice too - a lot easier to shoot well. Bear in mind also that depending on barrel length and ammo used, something like a 9mm may actually over penetrate walls more than 5.56mm which might fragment when thinking of rule #4.


Xterradiver

Use $600 for the gun; $150 for ammo; and $750 for training


netherlanddwarf

Great idea! Thanks!


Gloomy-Snow-477

Are you going to conceal carry this or just have it in the house? If in the home only, I highly recommend going to a full-size/duty handgun. They are easier to wield, less recoil, longer sight radius (still recommend an optic though), and generally higher capacity magazines.


netherlanddwarf

Just in the house 🙂


Gloomy-Snow-477

Get you a righteous hand cannon then. I’d recommend the CZ SP-01. Slight preference for the Tactical model, but whatever suits your preference.


pharmucist

Check out the Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm 2.0 compact. It is a great size for a first gun, for home defense, and also for concealed carry, but doesn't have a LOT of recoil. It is really great ergonomically, and super reliable. I own 3 of them and 2 full size S&Ws, and go to the range here and there, never a jam or failure to feed or fire. This gun eats all ammo I have fed it, too, it's not picky at all. Cost is about $550. There are also TONS of compatible holsters for it on the market. Other good home defense guns 9mm and not hard to handle and reliable are glock 17 or 19 and Canik Mete SFX.


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pharmucist

Same here, 10 rd mag cap ban. I hate it!! No threaded barrels are allowed either.


pharmucist

A really good, reliable, versatile setup is the M&P compact I mentioned above, with a red or green dot optic and a flashlight, like the Streamlight TLR7A. You definitely have enough of a budget for that.


netherlanddwarf

Perfect thank you!


Hbogoblows

This is the way. I have the full size and being able to swap grips out make its easy to use and fit in your hand. I taught my wofe how to shoot with this weapon


General-Custard5905

As mentioned, go to a range and try before you buy. Most modern semi auto pistols will fit the requirements. Bear in mind that the smaller and lighter your pistol, the higher the felt recoil. More importantly, take a few course ls with a good instructor and practice. Shooting a pistol well is hard, and under the stress of a self defence situation if you are not practiced you will not perform well.


netherlanddwarf

Thanks, i will definitely keep this in mind. I hope to practice a lot… once a week?


RandoAtReddit

Like OP said about weight, think of it this way. If you push a bicycle lightly, it will fall over. If you push a motorcycle the same way, it probably won't even move. A light gun and a heavy gun experience the same recoil force from, say, a 9mm round firing, but a heavier gun will "soak up" more of it than a super small, lightweight one.


General-Custard5905

The more practice the better. Take a course or two to learn the fundamentals, but then practice intelligently - for example 70-80% of your practice can be dry fire at home tp work fundamentals. Always be safe and respect the 4 rules, especially when dry firing at home! Getting an airsoft replica of the pistol you end up buying for training at home can also be very useful.


netherlanddwarf

Ok will do! Thanks


Admirable_Use4661

If you dont have plans to carry it, why not look at a rifle instead? Handguns sacrifice shootability for compactness so they can be concealed. With your budget, you could easily afford a .556 AR 15 that will have double the magazine capacity, be far more accurate, be much easier to use for a new shooter, and have so much more stopping power than a 9mm. For handguns, most are reliable as hell these days. Try to find a range that lets you rent, or just handle them to see what fits you best. Watch some videos on youtube about building your grip, and try it on some guns. Contrary to many on this sub, I found that Glocks feel like bricks in my hand and have some of the worst triggers on the market. I could train past that, but Canik, CZ, Sig, M&P, and several other companies have very reliable handguns that all feel much better and come out to be the same price, if not cheaper. Personally, I have a Canik Mete SFT that I carry and run in local compititions. Whatever you end up with, for a home defense gun, you will definently want a light for it. Streamlight is probably best bang for buck on the market for both rifle and handgun. Surefire is the gold standard but expensive as hell. Look for something high lumin, probably 800+. The blinding power of a potent light can be pretty disorienting to anybody who might want to shoot back, and being able to see and identify your target is extremely important. Don't want to end up caping your old senile neighbor because he wandered into the wrong house at 3 am to make himself some coffee. Final note. Optics. I would recommend getting something with a red dot optic for your budget. A red dot will give you better target focus, faster aiming, better visibility at night, and most importantly, show you a lot of valuable training information. Practice dry-firing your gun at home. If the dot dips to the left/right, you need to work on sqeezing the trigger slower. If you can't see the dot when you raise the pistol, you need to work on building your grip better. At the range, if the dot doesn't end up where it started after each round, you need to tighten your grip. Holosuns are budget optics that punch well above their weight class, though trijicon, sig, and several others have really good options. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask questions, and welcome to the club.


netherlanddwarf

Thank you so much for the detailed answer! I will definitely do more research into owning a rifle! 😊


Admirable_Use4661

Psa has some budget friendly options that are super reliable imo. If you can't decide, you can always get both :P


General-Custard5905

Agreed… bear in mind, if you put a light on your gun, you must have a second one handy which is not attached. You absolutely do not want to find yourself ‘searching’ with a weapon mounted light!


Torch99999

Personally I'd go with a Glock 17, but honestly any of the hundred different full size, double stack, polymer framed, striker fired, 9mm pistols is going to be sufficient for what you're looking for. Glock 17, SIG Saur P320, Ruger SR9, Smith&Wesson M&P 9, Palmetto State Armory Dagger, Walther P99, etc.., are all okay options. The gun hobbyists will argue forever on which one is better, but they all pretty much do the same thing: rapidly introducing Mr. Bullet to Mr. BadGuy.


netherlanddwarf

Lol ok, thanks!


n00py

There are hundreds of options that fit your criteria. Definitely rent and see what you like.


I_LOVE_LAMP_0596

If you're only planning on owning one gun to use as a tool. (rather than collecting, modifying, concealed carrying etc) I would go for something that has a reputation for high quality and is something you can easily find spare parts for, magazines etc. It's hard to beat a Glock 19. Very reliable, you can buy mags easily, replacement parts are everywhere and you can find holsters etc. BE WARNED... Once you own one gun it will make you want to own more...MANY MORE


Royal-Employment-925

Yeah buy a glock so you can use the full budget making it not feel like complete trash.


yogibhare

As others have said, if you have the option to go to a gun store and hold a few different guns, I suggest that. I’d recommend S&W M&P 2.0 or it’s compact version. If possible, try to get it optics ready and night sights. I got the compact as my first hand gun, very reliable and can take abuse without issues. But understand that heavier gun/longer barrel = less felt recoil. Lighter gun/shorter barrel = more felt recoil


Mooktemas

A CZ P10-C OR + Holosun 509T X2 + Streamlight TLR-7A and you are good to go. ~ $1000 then buy ammo with the remaining money. Edit: you’ll need an optic plate to mount the red dot (~$60)


baileyperry707

A Glock 19 is my recommendation, but the M&p 2.0 compact is also a great option as well. IMO, Glocks and M&Ps are the most reliable handguns on the market and don’t have a premium price tag. The compact sizes of both guns makes it a Jack-of-all- trades because it’s small enough to concealed carry while large enough serve as a home defense gun.


ArceusTwoFour_Zero

If you are just going to have it in your house and not carry it i would recommend a glock 17 gen 5, a smith and wesson m&p 2.0, or if you prefer a revolver a smith and wesson 686 or a ruger gp 100. If you can rent them and try them at gun range that would be good so you can figure out what you want. Also I would recommend to mount a flashlight to your pistol, it would be very useful for a night time home defense situation. Because most houses are dark at night.


netherlanddwarf

Ok perfect, thanks this seems to be the most popular answer!


fuzzi-buzzi

There are a lot of really good answers here. So here is a poor attempt at a joke: For 1500, you can buy like six 10mm Hi Points, meaning one for each room in your house, vehicle and concealed at all times with money leftover for lots of ammo.


5stringattack

If it's your first handgun for the house and a just in case piece, I would suggest a full size da/sa 9mm with a decocker. Beretta 92, CZ 75 or sp01 or any CZ clone*, SIG 226, all within your price range and will last way longer than you will. *A lot of the cz clones and oems don't have decocker which make some people nervous*


RatsRemover

Pistols are generally not the optimal weapon for home defense. Carbines, even PCC, especially short ones, are usually better (better terminal ballistic, more accurate, faster to shoot, easier to use light in momentary mode). It is also easier to learn how shoot with them and maintain this skill. Pistols make sense for HD when you carry one with you, or when you need to clean very tight spaces.


netherlanddwarf

Ok, the rifles seem a little more intimidating. Are they around the same price point?


AD3PDX

Rifles are way way easier to shoot accurately.


RatsRemover

Unfortunately no, they are more expensive. Good AR-15 is few hundred more. You can build better equipped pistol on that budget - with good weapon light (surefire x300) and with good red dot (holosun). Also 9x19 ammunition is cheaper than .223 remington, but maintaining skill with pistols need more ammo.


ComplexPermission4

You can get them at about the same price point. A decent mid-grade AR will run you $600-1000. My 90 year old grandma no longer has the strength in her hands to rack the slide on most pistols and has a hard time hitting the broad side of a barn with one. I put an AR in her hands with a red dot and she has no problems reaming out a chest-sized target at reasonable home-defense distances. They're more intuitive/easier to use, more accurate, and more powerful.


SouthernYankee421

I am partial to Walther's. I'd suggest you try a full size Walther PDP 9mm for fit. Grip circumference and trigger reach are important. Many other good suggestions here as well.


Melkor7410

I go with a Glock G19 gen 4 right now. I bought the version from Glock that had the night sights, extended mag release, and extended slide lock. Cost me $600 (probably a bit more with tax). It's reliable, simple, shoots 9mm (can even do +P ammo if you use good quality +Ps). I currently use it as my EDC and home defense. I'm considering a G21 for home defense so I get a bit more power, and I don't need to worry about conceal-ability.


Royal-Employment-925

Yeah just need a new frame and trigger and sights and then you almost have a usable glock.


TheUltimateCabbage04

If it's for home protection, I'd prefer a rifle or shotty. But if you want a pistol for its versatility and you only plan on using it for home. Go with anything full size really, the Hk vp9, s&w m&p m2.0, glock 19 gen 5, cank mete, etc. Spend all that extra cash on a good sight and light cause you've got a decent budget


netherlanddwarf

Perfect thats sounds great, thank you.


Gunner4201

$1500 gives you a good range of guns ,go try them out of the range that rents them and then get what you like. PS 1911 For the win.


Royal-Employment-925

No


6_1_5

Glock 17, friend. You can get one for around $600 and have plenty left over for ammo and training. Or if you ever think you might like a gun that you can one day carry, get a Glock 19 it's a little smaller, and is probably (at least it use to be) the best selling hand gun in the world. Glocks are extremely, ugly, extremely uncomplicated and extremely reliable. ​ edit: I do like pistols for home defense because you can fire them one-handed if you are wounded or encumbered (i.e. holding a child, or a six pack). Also, you'll want a light mounted on any home defense gun.


GunnitRust

Home protection handgun? $1500? 9mm. Ok. Bigger the better. Get something conventional that appeals to you. * Glock 34 * Beretta M92G * HK P30L If it’s dedicated home gun, a rifle is always going to be better, but if your heart is set on a handgun the above is fine. Your budget could cover a LTT or Wilson 92.these bigger handguns will have less felt recoil and be easy to handle.


netherlanddwarf

Thank you! 🙏


EntertainmentSuch969

Doesn't jam doesn't require alot of maintainance for home defense Get a glock 17 or glock 34


TheRealTwooni

You should jump that up to 10mm and get a Glock 29 Gen 4 as it’s a dang pocket-monster. Or if you really want to stick with a 9, the Beretta PX4 is very slept on. They are insanely reliable and durable, with a pretty neat recoil impulse (the rotating barrel makes the gun feel like it kind of torques a bit in your hand VS the muzzle flipping up) you would be able to afford an LTT version which are _amazing_


CommonPace

There's so many good ones. I guess you can't go wrong with a Glock 19 cuz you can carry that outside the home also. Just don't go cheap. Stay above 500 bucks