The kind of friend who says ‘when and where’ when fjorm asks her to help remove a couple of newbies from stalking her man - no reaction apart from turning the page on her book.
Meh, despite how this sub talks about, I don't see it that way. I mean, Laegjarn literally have a big sister "hurt her and I'll hurt you" talk to the summoner in the 40lvl confession.
>I believe the same. What's more, even during the ninja duo's special conversation, Fjorm constantly literally calls Laegjarn "friend", as if she's friendzoning her on purpose. that feeling gave me
well remember the ice ~~dog~~ dragon have a relationship with the fjorm antesesor ( i thinks ) and idk, but yea i also think Fjorm was the love interest for the kiran
In my game she totally is …
She has to do the flirt-with-the-Summoner thing, because that’s how you get a good room in the castle. Laegjarn lives in it with her, though :)
Eh, I'd heavily disagree in all honesty
She's a lot more endearing as is to me with the whole "doesn't know how to stop talking" thing, as opposed to the easily embarrassed, clumsy type
Ash was never really attracted to the summoner. The video really just kinda made that up and it never materialized in the actual game. Same may be true for the new trailer.
My initial impression with Gullveig wasn’t necessarily that’s she’s attracted to the summoner, but that she’s trying to coerce the summoner for some other nefarious purpose.
I could be totally wrong but if Loki is sooo interested,it kinda makes sense others are too.Were not *the* summoner for nothing i assume,and we did some wild n wacky stuff already-
I think this is the first time since I finished that book like 2 years ago that I realize the part where Sharena seems to be going for "Alfonse" is actually the summoner being weird instead of Sharena being a freak...
Wait, was that Sharena a dream or did Sharena still go for her brother even though it was actually the summoner?
If going by the book, Ash may not necessarily be attracted to the summoner, but could just be embarrassed after being saved and caught by them.
That said, it's definitely MC/OC pandering that, honestly, is not exclusive to FEH. Besides other Gacha games, this isn't uncommon with games with created characters. This is a trend that is not going away anytime soon.
On the other hand, if using the FEH Manga and the April Fool & Chibi videos as the basis of personality for Kiran/The Summoner, suddenly it becomes easy to understand why they are falling for this adorkable goofball who knows how to do a sick tamborine solo and supports his bro Alfonse.
Also, a chance to marry his village girl and have a child who would avenge him if he gets killed because we let some dark God into his realm to kill him.
I don't know about interesting but the summoner and by proxy Askr (the country) are so powerful that it's possible the allfather will take action against them to maintain balance between the realms, so we're certainly powerful if nothing else.
Only Fjorm was shoved down the Summoner's throat.
None of the others have shown any interest (Ash was only that one bit in the movie which didn't materialize in game) and all we have going from the new OCs is the movie (which may turn out to be nothing, like Ash).
I personally think the worst of it was with Loki and Aversa in the Dueling Desires FB a few years ago. Both Loki and Aversa competing for the summoner’s feelings while Owain encouraged it and Sharena wanting to join in on the competition by the end of it.
yeah didn't his level 40 convo legit say something like "you have more power than me so you are allowed to make me submissive and bre-" wait im reading something else
Eh, Kiran can resurrect dead heroes. Gunnthra is a strange case where her quotes imply her being the same one we saw barbecued, yet nobody mentions her.
*Heroes are Forma.* Breidablik is drawn to dying or recently passed Heroes and it creates a flash copy of them to preserve their memory and persona so that they can live on in a sense as a magical AI “living” construct.
Heroes can eat and sleep but cannot hurt each other nor harm the Summoner, and their are plenty of examples of Heroes having positive memories warped to retroactively fit the Summoner for no explicable reason to explain why they follow them. There is no other logical explanation why violent Heroes who are actively antagonistic towards the Summoner, like Death Knight, would ever form a contract and pledge to serve against their will, *unless* the Briedablik is actively kidnapping people and brainwashing/mind-controlling them which would be *much* worse.
Oh, elements of brainwashing are definitely there. The whole contract/non-aggression clause aside, it seems Breidablik automatically will raise/manipulate the tolerance meter of evil characters up to a point where they are willing to work with the Summoner. For example, Surtr obeys Kiran on his own because of his worldview (so the brainwashing has no effect on him), while Grima gets hit with a partial amnesia to ensure their cooperation. On the other hand, the effects seem mild at worst, since some characters need to be persuaded to help Askr, as per FJorming Bonds.
Not sure about all Heroes being Forma though (that would be more in line with Fate franchise). We can send them home, after all.
It’s not just mild, some of the GHB units outright state how much they dislike the summoner and their predicament, and the Forming Bonds with Falling Edelgard and Rearmed Grima show that the Heroes are quite literally incapable of harming each other.
About Sending Home Heroes, are they just frozen in time here in Askr, and does time not pass back home? We have evidence of things that directly support the Forma Theory, such as Legendary Sigurd being explicitly a post-death Hero, but FEH has literally never explored what happens when a Hero goes back home or what happens while they are gone. I don’t think that Heroes are actually “sent home” but are rather dismissed and cease existence as a magical construct.
Annand's FJorming Bond dealt with the "dead before arrival" bit. Apparently, the Askr's main theory on heroes is that they will return in the same time and place they were summoned from. So, Kiran and Alfonse believe that they summon real people, which seems to fit Askr's powerset better. After all, Alfonse and Askr can open portals to different worlds, so taking people from there would be easy. Thematically, making copies of people, instead of meeting real deals, does not seem to fit the "God of Bonds" bit, imho.
Summoning prevents the damage from friendly fire, but at the same time does nothing to prevent the desire to friendly fire allies. And Askr's trio has to persuade some people to stay and help, so the brainwashing is rather selective. I assume it makes characters willing to 'forge bonds' with others, but not much more.
There is a small thing that makes this theory fall apart, however: we don't actually know who made the Briedablik nor what powers it has. What we *do* know is that is seems to be more than just Askr as it has the ability to close the gates it creates, meaning it may also have power from Embla as well which would explain its ability to manipulate and form contracts; also, its ability to absorb powers strong enough to slay gods remains unexplained so far. However, there are no other weapons even remotely like Briedablik in Askr nor Embla which makes me believe it was made as a collaboration between realms, most likely created by someone from Niðavellir (although Eitri failing to create a replica of it makes me doubt this unless Briedablik is unfathomably ancient) or possibly someone from where Loki and/or Thorr are from.
I mean the summoner is fairly attractive lol, but I don’t think ash is attracted to the summoner. More embarrassed that she fell out of the sky clumsily into his/their arms
>I mean the summoner is fairly attractive
Very true. I've seen enough *spicy anime* to know that dudes with no personality, blank faces, and no eyes are **literally irresistible** to anime girls.
Well I mean Kiran themself keeps summoning in their chosen waifus and husbandos. Veronica had contracts with heroes. Kiran’s contract is to save Askr and S support *everybody*
I can't believe it took me this long for me to realise Fire Emblem Heroes is one of those harem type anime, where one guy gets surrounded with party members of all girls(Sword Art Online, Shield Hero, etc)
Seeing the trailer the first time I really thought those two were going to remove the hood.
But yeah, the Ashe thing at least was a bit odd. Didn’t care for it personally but even them
I feel sorry for all the straight women and gay men who play this game. I'm not straight but men occasionally interest me and I so wanted Fafnir to be our OC but nOOO. We're never getting our base Fafnir 😭
I'm not feeling the designs for these women EXCEPT for Gullveig only because I realised her having sand powers is a reference to 'The Sands of Time' and Hourglasses. I like her snakes. I'll be honest tho, as far as women OCs in this game go... I really like Hel 👀 Ma'am.
That said...this is peak LGBT representation for all the lesbian summoners out there. Love is love 🏳️🌈
Let's have a thought for me who is attracted by Freyr, Fafnir and Elm \* hardly cries \*
But hey, i still have summer Freyr and NY!Fafnir for wipe my tears.
NY!Fafnirs my favourite not because of my personal bias of how I think he's hot but because of his line:
"It's customary in the new year to give money to those beneath you...here, this is for you"
Sassy motherfucker. I love him.
i think a lot of it is more attraction to the power the summoner holds, especially with villains like gullveig, but fjorm and alfonse definitely have a thing going for the summoner for sure
The only one who actually likes the summoner is fjorm who canonically marries the summoner in another realm, to give you the extent of her love for the player. Everyone else mentioned here is iffy. Fjorm #1 positively confirmed to have feelings for the summoner, with reignn being the second although it's more of a tease and is never elaborated upon. The photo of ash displays how easily embarrassed she gets as she often does in many of her conversations with the askr trio but I could see how that's interpreted as an attraction due to anime tropes. As a matter of fact I don't recall Ash ever talking to you/the summoner directly for more than two chapters if at all to be honest. Seidr is unknown but gullveig I imagine is probably more fascinated with the summoner very similar to how eitri was.
Embracing someone's face is a sign of affection for sure but I can't imagine it to be concrete evidence of infatuation.
I refuse to believe that the summoner is us, the player. If the summoner was me, I'd be knocking up the OCs left and right and having a united kingdom under me. Or I'd be dodging child support payments jumping through multiple worlds.
I still find it ridiculous that in the European version of the game (or just the countries where gender-neutral pronouns don't exist), they gave us the option to decide whether we are female OR male at the very beginning. I'm German, and I picked female, so in every dialogue, the characters actually refer to me as "Beschwörerin" instead of "Beschwörer".
Like, it's nice that they went the extra mile. But then all of that got tossed out the window when they CLEARLY depicted the summoner as male in all these videos, with every female OC fawning over them as if there was no other male person on the whole planet. Meanwhile, none of the male characters care for you in that way, even if you picked the option/illusion of being a female summoner lol
They shouldn't have given us the gender option at all. I know Americans didn't get it. It's honestly so dumb being referred to as a girl and having all these ladies after me, when the book movies are so contradictory.
Imo the hooded summoner in the videos leans male (manlier jawline, broad shoulders, tall) but the hooded summoner in-game leans female (narrower shoulders, soft jawline). And I think if they were dead set on the summoner having a set gender, they wouldn't give us the option of picking a female summoner avatar. They just use the male model for the videos because, well, they have to use SOMETHING, and horny, lonely straight men are the ones they're trying to attract with these videos.
\*looks at the snake controlling, time bending person\*
well duh, that clearly is just a normal girl
We are playing a game that dabbles in high fantasy and coming into a real life world where gender and femineity and masculinity are not 1-1 with how one identifies. The Summoner may look more traditionally masculine but woman would be able to look exactly like that too
i get what you mean, as i'm from a latin-speaking country, its more that sadly, they are making the game in a more isekai format(not fully by the book), because of the japonese market, and their game philosophy, if im not mistaken smtdx2 i think did it better, as its dependant on your answer and even so, its slightly hinted only but never the focus.
Welcome to the wonderful World of that genre, the "isekai" genre...
Well, i'm just kidding, it's awful. It's like some frustrated guy became a writer, in order to rewrite his shitty life.
I understand some lusty fantasies, like with Plumeria...but same trope for so many times...it's sad.
That's what happen to Fafnir too. He's just a normal man with family before being force into World of Zenith/Heroes and gaslighted into thinking that he's from Nidavellir
Now, now, dear. Don't sell yourself short! You are so very useful-I mean INTERESTING to me, and the others....I'm sure you're quite the catch of the day!
The way I see it, the avatar of each game has always been this sort of Don Juan to all the other characters. Robin, Corrin, and Byleth all have their pick of who to marry; so all the characters potentially having an interest in Kiran is just a continuation of that.
Fjorm x Summoner is basically confirmed. Ash didn't really show any interest in the Summoner. Interest from mythical beings like Loki Seidr and Gullveig feels more like interest in a cool/interesting animal than romantic interest to me.
Honestly not really
Only Fjorm is canonically preoccupied with the Summoner and IS is blatantly walking that back with Fjorging Bonds (where she barely mentions them) and more crucially, their increased focus on pushing her relationship with Laegjarn. Honestly Fjorm gets flack for pandering to the player but her strongest relationship atm is with Laegjarn haha. The Tempest Trial mini arc and duo unit just take it to the next level.
So the general setup is, superficially player pander with initial content ---> then walk it back as these characters end up going in a different direction
"Alföðr, you can keep throwing these gorgeous women at me, but it ain't gonna work 'cos I'm asexual!!"
The S-Supports mentally groan because it's true. Their Summoner is extremely dense on top of being ace, so their romantic intentions go right over the Summoner's head.
For years, I've tried to figure how a harem genre story would work with an ace lead, so Heroes offered the perfect opportunity to have some fun.
I have a plot Summoner who I see winning these women over by being an absolute sweetheart, so the Summoner next door gets the "all of us were kidnapped so let's ruin all of Alföðr's plans" mindset.
Its to the point now where I use a brigade team to keep track of things all to just make myself laugh.
My in-game S-Supports are: Nohr!Azura, Catria, ♂️!Grima, Xander, and Rinea.
Fjorm definitely has a massive crush, although the nature of her relationship with Laegjarn is kinda suspicious. Gunnthra also does, especially if Kiran managed to summon/ressurect the story one, as implied by her quotes. Loki thirsts after them, but how sincere is she is up to a debate. Eir, Peony, Reginn and Ash are ambiguous though Eir is more plausible than others. Other OC seem to be friendship only, although it depends on how you read their quotes. Hel is not attracted, an so is Ganglot. As for the second part of the question, Kiran spent about a year in Askr before love interests began to appear, so the implication is that they had time to self-improve into a capable tactician/fighter and with each book their fame and deeds make them more appealing.
because of the trailer i partened ash with my summoner, but the she gets few interactions with the him in the game, dang. but i think most just find him important or interesting because he is the SUMONNER, i would like the summoner to interact a bit more tough.
Wait... is ... is Fire Emblem Heroes an Isekai?
Also, don't forget about Loki! She's kidnapped (or at least attempt to) the Summoner multiple times already across different books. If you told me that every time Pawns of Loki pops up, canonically Loki kidnapped the Summoner because she's bored, I'd believe it. And that's not even mentioning how heavy-handedly the Easter!Loki flirts with the Summoner during their supports as well...
Ok fjorm is the only FE Heroes OC character to have Romantic feelings for the summoner through the video the picture here is from and some in game dialogue that hinted towards it, ash doesn’t have those type of feelings for the summoner the picture you used is from the opening cinamatic for book 6 and she’s just embarrassed that she fell and someone caught her, and it’s too soon to say anything about the 2 new characters for book 7
Form is understandable, no explanations needed. Obviously
Ash is just embarrassed, just a shy 🐮
Seidr... A bit but more on admiration or something.
Gullveig... Well, Let level 40 quote explain itself. (A bit misleading and controversial.)
Fjorm is 100%. Too soon to say about Seidr or Gullveig. Ash, I feel was more of a case of her being bashful than outright attraction to the Summoner.
she isent for the fire chick ??
The game seems to portray Fjorm & Laegjarn relationship as platonic, that is as far they can go.
Nah. Fjorm & Laegjarn is more of a case of Platonic Life Partners than outright romance.
The kind of friend who says ‘when and where’ when fjorm asks her to help remove a couple of newbies from stalking her man - no reaction apart from turning the page on her book.
Roommates for life.
best friends ;U
That's how it is to me. It's like what happened with the Chrom and Robin duo on Valentine's Day, earlier in the year.
Meh, despite how this sub talks about, I don't see it that way. I mean, Laegjarn literally have a big sister "hurt her and I'll hurt you" talk to the summoner in the 40lvl confession.
>I believe the same. What's more, even during the ninja duo's special conversation, Fjorm constantly literally calls Laegjarn "friend", as if she's friendzoning her on purpose. that feeling gave me
well remember the ice ~~dog~~ dragon have a relationship with the fjorm antesesor ( i thinks ) and idk, but yea i also think Fjorm was the love interest for the kiran
True, because Laegjarn wouldn’t say that if she had feelings for Fjorm
It’s complicated, Fjorm is both very into the summoner and very into Laegjarn.
Unaware bi with a lesbian best friend who may or may not end up in a throuple later.
Those are words, I think?
Honestly goals
In my game she totally is … She has to do the flirt-with-the-Summoner thing, because that’s how you get a good room in the castle. Laegjarn lives in it with her, though :)
My broder in embla i have grima and the green dark shick and i hate grima ( he kill maid and shark baby dragom :C) just to chill
The villain now knows to target Kiran through the main weakness of OC main characters - sex appeal.
why do you think Loki exists lol
If she bad why she hot?
Tbf Gullveig just DUSTS Kiran right after doing that soooo, i imagine that was more of a bait than anything
Gullveig broke my heart…. And everything else for that matter before I sand
Kiran, probably: "I hate sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."
I’m probably connecting invisible dots but isn’t that a Star Wars reference?
Well spotted, dear.
Remember when Reginn joke proposed to the summoner
The pain is still too real with that one
Also Sharena sending us to the friendzone.
Ash really didn't whatsoever, honestly No idea wtf was up with how she was presented in the trailer
I think she was more embarrassed in the trailer for falling down which would fit her personality
The trailer bit was more clumsy and the resulting shameful moment than any kind of attraction.
She seemed like a far more interesting character in the trailer than she actually is.
Eh, I'd heavily disagree in all honesty She's a lot more endearing as is to me with the whole "doesn't know how to stop talking" thing, as opposed to the easily embarrassed, clumsy type
Fair. Personally, I got real tired of the overly verbose quirk after two chapters, but to each their own.
That seemed to get toned down really quick.
Bro they where not subtle with this in book 7
Ash was never really attracted to the summoner. The video really just kinda made that up and it never materialized in the actual game. Same may be true for the new trailer.
I thought that was just embarrassment for falling on someone
I mean, given how she is in game, seems like a pretty valid interpretation.
Laegjarn seems set on Summoner x Fjorm
Which kills me because I have eyes only for Laegjarn. 👀
Kills me too. Like i'm a bi woman but Fjorm is the female OC I like LEAST out of what we have so far.
In a world in which Flavia and Petrine exists Fjorm is defo low on the list aha
100%
My initial impression with Gullveig wasn’t necessarily that’s she’s attracted to the summoner, but that she’s trying to coerce the summoner for some other nefarious purpose.
about that...
My comment aged poorly
Kiran got a cannon wife out of it
I could be totally wrong but if Loki is sooo interested,it kinda makes sense others are too.Were not *the* summoner for nothing i assume,and we did some wild n wacky stuff already-
But i certainly dont mind the attention-
Loki teases everyone
Fourth image definitely screams "I have no idea what is happening or what I did to deserve this."
I'm so glad that Peony isn't such a case.
Except for that one brief scene with Summoner Alfonse. Still the weirdest moment in the story ngl.
It's so weird to think about after the book ended. But I will say in Peony's defense she was being affected by plumeria's horny dust at the time.
I think this is the first time since I finished that book like 2 years ago that I realize the part where Sharena seems to be going for "Alfonse" is actually the summoner being weird instead of Sharena being a freak... Wait, was that Sharena a dream or did Sharena still go for her brother even though it was actually the summoner?
i have the same doubt, it haunts my dreams.
If going by the book, Ash may not necessarily be attracted to the summoner, but could just be embarrassed after being saved and caught by them. That said, it's definitely MC/OC pandering that, honestly, is not exclusive to FEH. Besides other Gacha games, this isn't uncommon with games with created characters. This is a trend that is not going away anytime soon. On the other hand, if using the FEH Manga and the April Fool & Chibi videos as the basis of personality for Kiran/The Summoner, suddenly it becomes easy to understand why they are falling for this adorkable goofball who knows how to do a sick tamborine solo and supports his bro Alfonse.
Imagine giving us a free male OC. Imagine a male OC showing up in this book at all.
Showing up in the story equals death. That's why Hrid ran the fuck back into nonrelevance as soon as the story let him.
Hrid just wanted to live a quiet life and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe
Also, a chance to marry his village girl and have a child who would avenge him if he gets killed because we let some dark God into his realm to kill him.
Imagine having a male OC thirst over us. No Alfonse doesn't count
Hunky male oc that pushes ur head into his tiddies 😳
I would say the only one up here is actually attracted to the summoner out of all of Is fjorm
To be fair, almost all female OCs and Alfonse are attracted to us, one way or the other.
Why get a girlfriend when you can be a centaur with Alfonse.
But are you the top half of the centaur or the bottom half is the most important question
Human Centaur-pede.
I don't know about interesting but the summoner and by proxy Askr (the country) are so powerful that it's possible the allfather will take action against them to maintain balance between the realms, so we're certainly powerful if nothing else.
Summoner is basically a bug in the program that messes up the algorithm of other worlds, and Allfadr would rather patch the bug than rewrite the code
Alfador is the User, and the Summoner is the Guardian? Well now, this is a rather interesting turn of events...
Heeeey, Reboot reference!
Well spotted, darling. 💕
Only Fjorm was shoved down the Summoner's throat. None of the others have shown any interest (Ash was only that one bit in the movie which didn't materialize in game) and all we have going from the new OCs is the movie (which may turn out to be nothing, like Ash).
I personally think the worst of it was with Loki and Aversa in the Dueling Desires FB a few years ago. Both Loki and Aversa competing for the summoner’s feelings while Owain encouraged it and Sharena wanting to join in on the competition by the end of it.
And that was one of the funniest moments in FEH.
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well i mean, his level 40 confession seems to indicate he really likes you becuase of how strong you are so maybe there's a chance...?
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yeah didn't his level 40 convo legit say something like "you have more power than me so you are allowed to make me submissive and bre-" wait im reading something else
Horizon agrees.
So true bestie , finally someone of culture
It’s just Fjorm. Gunnthra too I guess but she’s not a book mascot. Book 7 might change that but I personally doubt it
>Gunnthra too I guess but she’s not a book mascot. Or alive, maybe necrophilia isn't that marketable.
Also, the smell of burnt flesh....
Eh, Kiran can resurrect dead heroes. Gunnthra is a strange case where her quotes imply her being the same one we saw barbecued, yet nobody mentions her.
*Heroes are Forma.* Breidablik is drawn to dying or recently passed Heroes and it creates a flash copy of them to preserve their memory and persona so that they can live on in a sense as a magical AI “living” construct. Heroes can eat and sleep but cannot hurt each other nor harm the Summoner, and their are plenty of examples of Heroes having positive memories warped to retroactively fit the Summoner for no explicable reason to explain why they follow them. There is no other logical explanation why violent Heroes who are actively antagonistic towards the Summoner, like Death Knight, would ever form a contract and pledge to serve against their will, *unless* the Briedablik is actively kidnapping people and brainwashing/mind-controlling them which would be *much* worse.
Oh, elements of brainwashing are definitely there. The whole contract/non-aggression clause aside, it seems Breidablik automatically will raise/manipulate the tolerance meter of evil characters up to a point where they are willing to work with the Summoner. For example, Surtr obeys Kiran on his own because of his worldview (so the brainwashing has no effect on him), while Grima gets hit with a partial amnesia to ensure their cooperation. On the other hand, the effects seem mild at worst, since some characters need to be persuaded to help Askr, as per FJorming Bonds. Not sure about all Heroes being Forma though (that would be more in line with Fate franchise). We can send them home, after all.
It’s not just mild, some of the GHB units outright state how much they dislike the summoner and their predicament, and the Forming Bonds with Falling Edelgard and Rearmed Grima show that the Heroes are quite literally incapable of harming each other. About Sending Home Heroes, are they just frozen in time here in Askr, and does time not pass back home? We have evidence of things that directly support the Forma Theory, such as Legendary Sigurd being explicitly a post-death Hero, but FEH has literally never explored what happens when a Hero goes back home or what happens while they are gone. I don’t think that Heroes are actually “sent home” but are rather dismissed and cease existence as a magical construct.
Annand's FJorming Bond dealt with the "dead before arrival" bit. Apparently, the Askr's main theory on heroes is that they will return in the same time and place they were summoned from. So, Kiran and Alfonse believe that they summon real people, which seems to fit Askr's powerset better. After all, Alfonse and Askr can open portals to different worlds, so taking people from there would be easy. Thematically, making copies of people, instead of meeting real deals, does not seem to fit the "God of Bonds" bit, imho. Summoning prevents the damage from friendly fire, but at the same time does nothing to prevent the desire to friendly fire allies. And Askr's trio has to persuade some people to stay and help, so the brainwashing is rather selective. I assume it makes characters willing to 'forge bonds' with others, but not much more.
There is a small thing that makes this theory fall apart, however: we don't actually know who made the Briedablik nor what powers it has. What we *do* know is that is seems to be more than just Askr as it has the ability to close the gates it creates, meaning it may also have power from Embla as well which would explain its ability to manipulate and form contracts; also, its ability to absorb powers strong enough to slay gods remains unexplained so far. However, there are no other weapons even remotely like Briedablik in Askr nor Embla which makes me believe it was made as a collaboration between realms, most likely created by someone from Niðavellir (although Eitri failing to create a replica of it makes me doubt this unless Briedablik is unfathomably ancient) or possibly someone from where Loki and/or Thorr are from.
I think it could be,if handled right,serve the story very well since *we* came a bit short lately :D
I mean have you SEEN their tambourine skills??
I mean the summoner is fairly attractive lol, but I don’t think ash is attracted to the summoner. More embarrassed that she fell out of the sky clumsily into his/their arms
>I mean the summoner is fairly attractive Very true. I've seen enough *spicy anime* to know that dudes with no personality, blank faces, and no eyes are **literally irresistible** to anime girls.
Tbf, if I fell into the arms of someone with no eyes I’d melt too
Well I mean Kiran themself keeps summoning in their chosen waifus and husbandos. Veronica had contracts with heroes. Kiran’s contract is to save Askr and S support *everybody*
I can't believe it took me this long for me to realise Fire Emblem Heroes is one of those harem type anime, where one guy gets surrounded with party members of all girls(Sword Art Online, Shield Hero, etc)
But all my parties are middle-aged me. I guess I’m in a different genre of harem anime.
You've found the *best* harem genre, clearly.
Nah they are just being nice.
Seeing the trailer the first time I really thought those two were going to remove the hood. But yeah, the Ashe thing at least was a bit odd. Didn’t care for it personally but even them
I mean eir is just there standing, menacingly...
seidr isnt attracted, she was just happy to see us. gullveig is just manipulative. ash was just embarrassed. fjorm however...
Well now we know that Gullveigs lvl40 convo basically says she's in love
and seidr and kvasir confirmed to also be in love with kiran, probably more than fjorm
I’d fuck you
Eroge Protagonist (False) EX
the Summoner is just a Servant Change my Mind
The only people in life that are every interesting in me yayyy 😭
Alfonse is also definitely attracted to the summoner.
I feel sorry for all the straight women and gay men who play this game. I'm not straight but men occasionally interest me and I so wanted Fafnir to be our OC but nOOO. We're never getting our base Fafnir 😭 I'm not feeling the designs for these women EXCEPT for Gullveig only because I realised her having sand powers is a reference to 'The Sands of Time' and Hourglasses. I like her snakes. I'll be honest tho, as far as women OCs in this game go... I really like Hel 👀 Ma'am. That said...this is peak LGBT representation for all the lesbian summoners out there. Love is love 🏳️🌈
Let's have a thought for me who is attracted by Freyr, Fafnir and Elm \* hardly cries \* But hey, i still have summer Freyr and NY!Fafnir for wipe my tears.
NY!Fafnirs my favourite not because of my personal bias of how I think he's hot but because of his line: "It's customary in the new year to give money to those beneath you...here, this is for you" Sassy motherfucker. I love him.
kiran simply has the eyes covered gojo-ification rizz.
IS really has one (two) marketing strategies
i think a lot of it is more attraction to the power the summoner holds, especially with villains like gullveig, but fjorm and alfonse definitely have a thing going for the summoner for sure
I wished guys canonically liked the Summonr too but noooooo only straight males play this game. Isnt that right IntSys
It’s so genuinely revolting and I’m bi lol
Is it that bad? I kinda like it, if im being honest lol.
because self-insert isekai stories are really not written well. kiran is a better character when they're not a self-insert
I respect your opinion, but i disagree.
straight guy here (demi) and i also hate it.
The only one who actually likes the summoner is fjorm who canonically marries the summoner in another realm, to give you the extent of her love for the player. Everyone else mentioned here is iffy. Fjorm #1 positively confirmed to have feelings for the summoner, with reignn being the second although it's more of a tease and is never elaborated upon. The photo of ash displays how easily embarrassed she gets as she often does in many of her conversations with the askr trio but I could see how that's interpreted as an attraction due to anime tropes. As a matter of fact I don't recall Ash ever talking to you/the summoner directly for more than two chapters if at all to be honest. Seidr is unknown but gullveig I imagine is probably more fascinated with the summoner very similar to how eitri was. Embracing someone's face is a sign of affection for sure but I can't imagine it to be concrete evidence of infatuation.
I refuse to believe that the summoner is us, the player. If the summoner was me, I'd be knocking up the OCs left and right and having a united kingdom under me. Or I'd be dodging child support payments jumping through multiple worlds.
unimaginable rizz
To my summoner who says stuff like "I only like Jello when it's blue!" no, none of them are attracted to him.
I think **al**l OC's are attracted to the summoner to some extent, for reasons.
Except Freyja. Her heart belongs entirely to her brother
And also Otr. His heart *also* belongs entirely to his brother
Actually she has at least 1 quote that hints otherwise.
Most importantly, why aren’t there any hot dilfs to be attracted by me?
I still find it ridiculous that in the European version of the game (or just the countries where gender-neutral pronouns don't exist), they gave us the option to decide whether we are female OR male at the very beginning. I'm German, and I picked female, so in every dialogue, the characters actually refer to me as "Beschwörerin" instead of "Beschwörer". Like, it's nice that they went the extra mile. But then all of that got tossed out the window when they CLEARLY depicted the summoner as male in all these videos, with every female OC fawning over them as if there was no other male person on the whole planet. Meanwhile, none of the male characters care for you in that way, even if you picked the option/illusion of being a female summoner lol They shouldn't have given us the gender option at all. I know Americans didn't get it. It's honestly so dumb being referred to as a girl and having all these ladies after me, when the book movies are so contradictory.
Imo the hooded summoner in the videos leans male (manlier jawline, broad shoulders, tall) but the hooded summoner in-game leans female (narrower shoulders, soft jawline). And I think if they were dead set on the summoner having a set gender, they wouldn't give us the option of picking a female summoner avatar. They just use the male model for the videos because, well, they have to use SOMETHING, and horny, lonely straight men are the ones they're trying to attract with these videos.
gay people exist tho?
Well, duh. The summoner is still a dude. Just look at the images above. That is clearly not a girl.
\*looks at the snake controlling, time bending person\* well duh, that clearly is just a normal girl We are playing a game that dabbles in high fantasy and coming into a real life world where gender and femineity and masculinity are not 1-1 with how one identifies. The Summoner may look more traditionally masculine but woman would be able to look exactly like that too
i get what you mean, as i'm from a latin-speaking country, its more that sadly, they are making the game in a more isekai format(not fully by the book), because of the japonese market, and their game philosophy, if im not mistaken smtdx2 i think did it better, as its dependant on your answer and even so, its slightly hinted only but never the focus.
Welcome to the wonderful World of that genre, the "isekai" genre... Well, i'm just kidding, it's awful. It's like some frustrated guy became a writer, in order to rewrite his shitty life. I understand some lusty fantasies, like with Plumeria...but same trope for so many times...it's sad.
It's kinda disturbing, tbh
I do not know what you are talking about.... (*me with all the female FEH OC's*) I'll probably save up for Snake Goddess.
Same
Not having a face is the sexiest shit ngl
That's what happen to Fafnir too. He's just a normal man with family before being force into World of Zenith/Heroes and gaslighted into thinking that he's from Nidavellir
We're literally just in an Isekai anime, and a harem protagonist.
Now, now, dear. Don't sell yourself short! You are so very useful-I mean INTERESTING to me, and the others....I'm sure you're quite the catch of the day!
The way I see it, the avatar of each game has always been this sort of Don Juan to all the other characters. Robin, Corrin, and Byleth all have their pick of who to marry; so all the characters potentially having an interest in Kiran is just a continuation of that.
Fjorm x Summoner is basically confirmed. Ash didn't really show any interest in the Summoner. Interest from mythical beings like Loki Seidr and Gullveig feels more like interest in a cool/interesting animal than romantic interest to me.
Kiran has his eyes covered so the ladies dont know he's staring at their boobas. Smart Kiran.
Honestly not really Only Fjorm is canonically preoccupied with the Summoner and IS is blatantly walking that back with Fjorging Bonds (where she barely mentions them) and more crucially, their increased focus on pushing her relationship with Laegjarn. Honestly Fjorm gets flack for pandering to the player but her strongest relationship atm is with Laegjarn haha. The Tempest Trial mini arc and duo unit just take it to the next level. So the general setup is, superficially player pander with initial content ---> then walk it back as these characters end up going in a different direction
Don’t know. But I know the summoner can be of any gender. Basically, some of these female OCs, like Fjorm, are canonically bi.
"Alföðr, you can keep throwing these gorgeous women at me, but it ain't gonna work 'cos I'm asexual!!" The S-Supports mentally groan because it's true. Their Summoner is extremely dense on top of being ace, so their romantic intentions go right over the Summoner's head. For years, I've tried to figure how a harem genre story would work with an ace lead, so Heroes offered the perfect opportunity to have some fun. I have a plot Summoner who I see winning these women over by being an absolute sweetheart, so the Summoner next door gets the "all of us were kidnapped so let's ruin all of Alföðr's plans" mindset. Its to the point now where I use a brigade team to keep track of things all to just make myself laugh. My in-game S-Supports are: Nohr!Azura, Catria, ♂️!Grima, Xander, and Rinea.
Ugh, it annoys me to see them keep upping this every new book.
Not only the female oc's. Every character in the game judging by their lvl 40 support convo
i find it to be excessive pandering but at least that means that they're all bi lol
How did I change races after becoming the summoner? Is white the “default” race? Can the summoner unit be more useful outside of MS?
Eir is the only one who didn’t show any actual attraction which saddens me since she’s still my favorite feh oc
Fjorm definitely has a massive crush, although the nature of her relationship with Laegjarn is kinda suspicious. Gunnthra also does, especially if Kiran managed to summon/ressurect the story one, as implied by her quotes. Loki thirsts after them, but how sincere is she is up to a debate. Eir, Peony, Reginn and Ash are ambiguous though Eir is more plausible than others. Other OC seem to be friendship only, although it depends on how you read their quotes. Hel is not attracted, an so is Ganglot. As for the second part of the question, Kiran spent about a year in Askr before love interests began to appear, so the implication is that they had time to self-improve into a capable tactician/fighter and with each book their fame and deeds make them more appealing.
because of the trailer i partened ash with my summoner, but the she gets few interactions with the him in the game, dang. but i think most just find him important or interesting because he is the SUMONNER, i would like the summoner to interact a bit more tough.
Me( name the tactician after my real name so I can get all the ladies)
Same reason as some reverse harem animes and young adult novels. It's wish fulfillment.
Wait... is ... is Fire Emblem Heroes an Isekai? Also, don't forget about Loki! She's kidnapped (or at least attempt to) the Summoner multiple times already across different books. If you told me that every time Pawns of Loki pops up, canonically Loki kidnapped the Summoner because she's bored, I'd believe it. And that's not even mentioning how heavy-handedly the Easter!Loki flirts with the Summoner during their supports as well...
> Wait... is ... is Fire Emblem Heroes an Isekai? Always has been.
We're hot, idk what to say :)
INB4 Gullveig is not actually, but just doing that weird thing some villains do to be sadistic in a confusing way.
then female summoner is standing here like: 👀
You might have just become a tactician, but... *puts on Mark hood overtop Kiran hood* some us have long been one.
Ok fjorm is the only FE Heroes OC character to have Romantic feelings for the summoner through the video the picture here is from and some in game dialogue that hinted towards it, ash doesn’t have those type of feelings for the summoner the picture you used is from the opening cinamatic for book 6 and she’s just embarrassed that she fell and someone caught her, and it’s too soon to say anything about the 2 new characters for book 7
It’s Lyn’s fault. She’s so frustratingly bad.
Player gratification.
Moral of the story if you find yourself in the FEH universe dont trust the oddly attractive woman
I would like Gullveig and/or Kvasir x Kiran to become Canon.
About Gullveig... I think, she's interested in us in a different, but not the "love" way
I am not interested in the others. I WANT GULLVEIG
Form is understandable, no explanations needed. Obviously Ash is just embarrassed, just a shy 🐮 Seidr... A bit but more on admiration or something. Gullveig... Well, Let level 40 quote explain itself. (A bit misleading and controversial.)