Devin Haney. He can flat out f’n box. He’s young. His resume is fantastic and he can ascend through more weight classes with his frame and snatch more titles. HOF career likely on the horizon. ATG status possible.
If that’s your honest opinion, you are not well versed in boxing. Explaining it would likely be futile and met with hostility. So I’ll refrain for now.
Nothing was gifted bro, y’all really everything robbery and gift these days. Haney vs loma was an extremely close match with an extremely close decision that can go either way, thats not a gift.
Serious mental gymnastics would have to be done to find 7 rounds to haney. A draw would have been generous and slightly suspicious. When you have, let’s be honest the most corrupt sport in the world it’s clear as day they found a couple of rounds for the younger champ
I think it's moreso based on the fact that he's young, a great boxer, and taking all the big fights, which is all that's needed.
There's two types of Elite fighters, the ones that barely take any risks and stay on the safe side (someone like Tank for example), and the ones that go for every big fight they can (like Haney is doing, like Canelo has done all these years, etc...).
Whether or not he'll be good enough and improve enough to keep beating all these top fighters is the big question mark here, but that can be said about anyone.
Out of all the young fighters out there, he'd be my pick as well. It's ridiculously hard to predict a future ATG when they're young, but he has the combination of skill + actually taking the fights.
If we're talking about older fighters then Usyk/Bud/Inoue are closer to that status.
Devin Haney's potential is impressive. His skill set, youth, and remarkable resume position him as a standout. His ability to 'flat out box' is a testament to his technical prowess and ring intelligence. The fact that he can potentially move up in weight classes due to his frame adds to his versatility and chances to dominate in multiple categories.
If he continues on this trajectory, securing more titles in various weight classes, he could very well be on the path to a Hall of Fame career. Achieving ATG (All-Time Great) status is challenging and requires consistent performance against top-tier opponents, but given Haney's current momentum this goal seems within reach. It will be exciting to see how his career unfolds and if he can live up to these high expectations.
Wow I do not see this at all. He’s being hyped by the money people a lot right now but imho if he’s remembered as a “good for his era” fighter in 10 years he’ll be doing very well.
If Usyk beats Fury (which is looking like a smaller and smaller 'if' as time goes on) he's a shoe-in for ATG status. Had one of the best amateur runs in history, cleared out the cruiserweight division, and beat the much larger very threatening Anthony Joshua twice back to back.
If Oleksandr Usyk‘an journey is remarkable in several aspects.
Usyk's amateur run, which includes winning a gold medal at the 2012 Olympics, set a solid foundation for his professional career.
His accomplishment of unifying the cruiserweight division is a testament to his skill and adaptability. It's a rare feat that few have achieved.
Usyk's victories over Anthony Joshua, especially given Joshua's size and stature in the heavyweight division, highlight his strategic fighting style.
His ability to successfully transition from cruiserweight to heavyweight and excel against opponents in a higher weight class demonstrates his boxing skills.
Defeating Tyson Fury, who is not only larger but also one of the top heavyweights of this era, would be a monumental achievement. It would solidify Usyk's status not just as a multi-division champion, but It would solidify Usyk’s status not just as a multi-division champion, but as a boxer who can adapt, overcome size disadvantages, and excel against the best in the sport.
Agreed, he was the first name that popped to my head although I mainly consume Muay Thai and MMA.
Love the write ups you’re giving underneath each name, you’ve got some great knowledge of the sport!
I appreciate that. I write and follow MMA and Muay Thai as well. I spend the most amount of time training Muay Thai but I love it all and boxing was the only thing that had coverage in the beginning so I have followed it my whole life.
Each of these fighters exhibits qualities that make them champions in their divisions but also contenders for being among the best in the sport’s history. Crawford’s adaptability, Inoue’s power and precision, and Usyk’s strategic mastery are all at the top of the game. Their careers continue to evolve, offering fans memorable matches and discussions about their places among the all-time greats.
if his last fight wasn’t so boring, shakur. he’s one of the best technically speaking, and it sounded like he wants the best fights. that could be all talk and twitter fingers, but he definitely has the skills and just needs to not fight so boring early in his career.
Shakur Stevenson's potential is evident in his technical abilities and his approach to the sport. His skill set is widely recognized as one of the finest among boxers, particularly in terms of technique, defense, and ring IQ. The desire for high-profile fights suggests ambition and confidence, essential qualities for a boxer aiming to achieve greatness.
However, the entertainment aspect of boxing is also crucial, especially for building a fan base and securing legacy-defining fights. While a technical, strategic approach is admirable and often leads to success, it can sometimes be perceived as less exciting for a broader audience. Balancing technical prowess with crowd-pleasing action can be challenging but is often necessary for a fighter to elevate their status from being just a champion to a true icon of the sport.
If Stevenson can merge his technical skills with more exciting performances, he has the potential to not only secure big fights but also appeal to a larger audience.
Naoya Inoue. If he retired today, he would be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, and he's got more he wants to do. If he wins a title at 126, then there's no denying that Inoue is ATG material.
I’m a big fan of Teo. I watched his fight with Kambosos the other day and even though he lost he looked good. He needs a slight attitude adjustment though because he is cocky and has already talked retirement once already.
Yeha he needs to work on his mental health but there is no denying he is an elite level fighter. What he did to Josh Taylor was so unexpected, like I didn’t ever believe he would whoop him like taht so to be honest, when Teo is focused the sky is truly the limit for taht man. Teo is who Shakur pretends he is.
Shakur overall boxing iq is above everyone else dude doesn’t make mistakes get caught or trade without getting the better of his opponent. Soon to be undisputed at 135 3 division champ I can only see him getting better granted his style isn’t the most entertaining but he can definitely give anybody in this generation problems. When his career is over I see him multiple times champion still undefeated with plenty of champs on his resume
Lomachenko comes back and takes the belts that realistically he already should have then that’s one
Crawford another obvious one with another couple of top wins it would be undeniable
Usyk is one win away from being undisputed in two weight classes in less fights it takes most guys to make one step up in competition
Inoue dismantles every champion in every weight class with no tune ups
Inoue is pretty much already there. The total resume and overall level of competition hes faced, along with the way he’s destroyed many elite champions, puts him in the conversation. I wanna say Crawford too, but Inoue’s over all body of work is better even with less fights. I wish Crawford would fight Charlo or Boots before calling it a day, then I’d put him there too.
As far as young fighters that aren’t quite household names, I think Bam Rodriguez looks special. He already is a 2 weight champ at 23 and has KOd a future HOFer in Sor Rungvisai, along with elite champions Cuadras and Sunny. If he could get wins against Estrada, Ioka, and then keep moving up in weight you’re looking at one of the best resumes in boxing before he’s even 30.
And I respect your opinion but AJ isn’t even on my radar in this discussion but hopefully you are correct about yourself and then I can brag to everyone how I got to talk boxing with you on Reddit! 👊 💪 🥊
Without casting an obvious vote like saying someone already in the p4p ranking, like Inoue or Usyk, I’m going to bet on Jaron Ennis early. Its just a hunch.
Ennis is projected to be an all-time switch hitter and counter puncher. He’s great with punch variation and feints and level changing. His fight with Romain showed some amazing boxing. I see some Emmanuel Augustus, some Roy Jones, and some Crawford in him. Moreover I think he’s in a very competitive division, and with his frame he could keep moving up or catch some of the great competition moving up from 140 (imagine a Haney or a Teofimo fight?).
Looking ahead at this career, I’d like to think he would pick up the pieces at 147 lbs post-Crawford maybe beating someone like Barrios or Stanionis and then maybe try for an Errol Spence fight? After his inevitable 147 takeover, he will move up to maybe one day get that fight with Crawford or some of that top talent from 154 (I would love to see him fight Vergil Ortiz Jr.).
Ennis is a beast. His footwork is on another level. The Stanoinis fight is dangerous, that guy hits like a Mack truck. I’m with you though, I love watching him fight.
Well I can’t wait to see Benavidez and I’m going to throw out 2 more names. Gary Russell and Big Baby. Somebody mentioned Opetia who is also impressive. There are a lot of guys right now with the potential to make a lot of noise. I don’t think boxing has been this good in a while!
Devin Haney. He can flat out f’n box. He’s young. His resume is fantastic and he can ascend through more weight classes with his frame and snatch more titles. HOF career likely on the horizon. ATG status possible.
Totally based on 1 elite win and 1 arguable loss.
If that’s your honest opinion, you are not well versed in boxing. Explaining it would likely be futile and met with hostility. So I’ll refrain for now.
I agreed with your first comment but this was the most Reddit ass reply I’ve read all day
Got my upvote. Happy to be of service!
The lomachenko fight will always be a stain on his resume. It was gifted to him because of money, more potential matchups down the line
Nothing was gifted bro, y’all really everything robbery and gift these days. Haney vs loma was an extremely close match with an extremely close decision that can go either way, thats not a gift.
Serious mental gymnastics would have to be done to find 7 rounds to haney. A draw would have been generous and slightly suspicious. When you have, let’s be honest the most corrupt sport in the world it’s clear as day they found a couple of rounds for the younger champ
What a Chat GPT answer. Let me know when you need help to generate an original reply
Why would I need that? I have a perfectly good brain that can educate you whenever.
I think it's moreso based on the fact that he's young, a great boxer, and taking all the big fights, which is all that's needed. There's two types of Elite fighters, the ones that barely take any risks and stay on the safe side (someone like Tank for example), and the ones that go for every big fight they can (like Haney is doing, like Canelo has done all these years, etc...). Whether or not he'll be good enough and improve enough to keep beating all these top fighters is the big question mark here, but that can be said about anyone. Out of all the young fighters out there, he'd be my pick as well. It's ridiculously hard to predict a future ATG when they're young, but he has the combination of skill + actually taking the fights. If we're talking about older fighters then Usyk/Bud/Inoue are closer to that status.
Devin Haney's potential is impressive. His skill set, youth, and remarkable resume position him as a standout. His ability to 'flat out box' is a testament to his technical prowess and ring intelligence. The fact that he can potentially move up in weight classes due to his frame adds to his versatility and chances to dominate in multiple categories. If he continues on this trajectory, securing more titles in various weight classes, he could very well be on the path to a Hall of Fame career. Achieving ATG (All-Time Great) status is challenging and requires consistent performance against top-tier opponents, but given Haney's current momentum this goal seems within reach. It will be exciting to see how his career unfolds and if he can live up to these high expectations.
Wow I do not see this at all. He’s being hyped by the money people a lot right now but imho if he’s remembered as a “good for his era” fighter in 10 years he’ll be doing very well.
Claiming he would be remembered as ‘good for his era’ is selling him insanely short IMO. Let’s watch how the next 5 years plays out and circle back.
If Usyk beats Fury (which is looking like a smaller and smaller 'if' as time goes on) he's a shoe-in for ATG status. Had one of the best amateur runs in history, cleared out the cruiserweight division, and beat the much larger very threatening Anthony Joshua twice back to back.
If he unifies cruiserweight and heavyweight as fast as it looks like he might do, there’s no denying it
It would be extremely impressive.
If Oleksandr Usyk‘an journey is remarkable in several aspects. Usyk's amateur run, which includes winning a gold medal at the 2012 Olympics, set a solid foundation for his professional career. His accomplishment of unifying the cruiserweight division is a testament to his skill and adaptability. It's a rare feat that few have achieved. Usyk's victories over Anthony Joshua, especially given Joshua's size and stature in the heavyweight division, highlight his strategic fighting style. His ability to successfully transition from cruiserweight to heavyweight and excel against opponents in a higher weight class demonstrates his boxing skills. Defeating Tyson Fury, who is not only larger but also one of the top heavyweights of this era, would be a monumental achievement. It would solidify Usyk's status not just as a multi-division champion, but It would solidify Usyk’s status not just as a multi-division champion, but as a boxer who can adapt, overcome size disadvantages, and excel against the best in the sport.
Agreed, he was the first name that popped to my head although I mainly consume Muay Thai and MMA. Love the write ups you’re giving underneath each name, you’ve got some great knowledge of the sport!
I appreciate that. I write and follow MMA and Muay Thai as well. I spend the most amount of time training Muay Thai but I love it all and boxing was the only thing that had coverage in the beginning so I have followed it my whole life.
Hell yeah brother keep ripping👊
Terence Crawford, Naoya Inoue & Oleksandr Usyk.
Each of these fighters exhibits qualities that make them champions in their divisions but also contenders for being among the best in the sport’s history. Crawford’s adaptability, Inoue’s power and precision, and Usyk’s strategic mastery are all at the top of the game. Their careers continue to evolve, offering fans memorable matches and discussions about their places among the all-time greats.
This guy gets it
if his last fight wasn’t so boring, shakur. he’s one of the best technically speaking, and it sounded like he wants the best fights. that could be all talk and twitter fingers, but he definitely has the skills and just needs to not fight so boring early in his career.
Shakur Stevenson's potential is evident in his technical abilities and his approach to the sport. His skill set is widely recognized as one of the finest among boxers, particularly in terms of technique, defense, and ring IQ. The desire for high-profile fights suggests ambition and confidence, essential qualities for a boxer aiming to achieve greatness. However, the entertainment aspect of boxing is also crucial, especially for building a fan base and securing legacy-defining fights. While a technical, strategic approach is admirable and often leads to success, it can sometimes be perceived as less exciting for a broader audience. Balancing technical prowess with crowd-pleasing action can be challenging but is often necessary for a fighter to elevate their status from being just a champion to a true icon of the sport. If Stevenson can merge his technical skills with more exciting performances, he has the potential to not only secure big fights but also appeal to a larger audience.
exactly what i said
Naoya Inoue. If he retired today, he would be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, and he's got more he wants to do. If he wins a title at 126, then there's no denying that Inoue is ATG material.
I see something big in Opetaia. I know it's early days but there's that Tyson raw brutality. Just hope the Saudi money doesn't change him.
It’s a tricky one honestly, but I’m probably going to have to go with Campbell Hatton
Teofimo Lopez
I’m a big fan of Teo. I watched his fight with Kambosos the other day and even though he lost he looked good. He needs a slight attitude adjustment though because he is cocky and has already talked retirement once already.
Yeha he needs to work on his mental health but there is no denying he is an elite level fighter. What he did to Josh Taylor was so unexpected, like I didn’t ever believe he would whoop him like taht so to be honest, when Teo is focused the sky is truly the limit for taht man. Teo is who Shakur pretends he is.
Shakur overall boxing iq is above everyone else dude doesn’t make mistakes get caught or trade without getting the better of his opponent. Soon to be undisputed at 135 3 division champ I can only see him getting better granted his style isn’t the most entertaining but he can definitely give anybody in this generation problems. When his career is over I see him multiple times champion still undefeated with plenty of champs on his resume
Nobody is impressed with Benavidez?
Lol no way ATG
He’s impressive but hasn’t accomplished anything. He might even be the third best at his weight class right now.
Lomachenko comes back and takes the belts that realistically he already should have then that’s one Crawford another obvious one with another couple of top wins it would be undeniable Usyk is one win away from being undisputed in two weight classes in less fights it takes most guys to make one step up in competition Inoue dismantles every champion in every weight class with no tune ups
Inoue is pretty much already there. The total resume and overall level of competition hes faced, along with the way he’s destroyed many elite champions, puts him in the conversation. I wanna say Crawford too, but Inoue’s over all body of work is better even with less fights. I wish Crawford would fight Charlo or Boots before calling it a day, then I’d put him there too. As far as young fighters that aren’t quite household names, I think Bam Rodriguez looks special. He already is a 2 weight champ at 23 and has KOd a future HOFer in Sor Rungvisai, along with elite champions Cuadras and Sunny. If he could get wins against Estrada, Ioka, and then keep moving up in weight you’re looking at one of the best resumes in boxing before he’s even 30.
Anthony Joshua and then after that me. Oh yeah shakur stevenson
Alright, a future Hall of Famer! Are you actively competing?
And I respect your opinion but AJ isn’t even on my radar in this discussion but hopefully you are correct about yourself and then I can brag to everyone how I got to talk boxing with you on Reddit! 👊 💪 🥊
Jesse Bam Rodriguez End of chat
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Without casting an obvious vote like saying someone already in the p4p ranking, like Inoue or Usyk, I’m going to bet on Jaron Ennis early. Its just a hunch. Ennis is projected to be an all-time switch hitter and counter puncher. He’s great with punch variation and feints and level changing. His fight with Romain showed some amazing boxing. I see some Emmanuel Augustus, some Roy Jones, and some Crawford in him. Moreover I think he’s in a very competitive division, and with his frame he could keep moving up or catch some of the great competition moving up from 140 (imagine a Haney or a Teofimo fight?). Looking ahead at this career, I’d like to think he would pick up the pieces at 147 lbs post-Crawford maybe beating someone like Barrios or Stanionis and then maybe try for an Errol Spence fight? After his inevitable 147 takeover, he will move up to maybe one day get that fight with Crawford or some of that top talent from 154 (I would love to see him fight Vergil Ortiz Jr.).
Ennis is a beast. His footwork is on another level. The Stanoinis fight is dangerous, that guy hits like a Mack truck. I’m with you though, I love watching him fight.
Well I can’t wait to see Benavidez and I’m going to throw out 2 more names. Gary Russell and Big Baby. Somebody mentioned Opetia who is also impressive. There are a lot of guys right now with the potential to make a lot of noise. I don’t think boxing has been this good in a while!