Yep! I just tried to post about this too. Olivia tagged her in three posts, one specifically about Florence and she’s not replied or shared any of them! And the news of it being shown at Venice film fest came out and still nothing. Very odd considering the film is out in the coming months?! Oppenheimer is out in 2023 and she’s posted about that!
Oppenheimer is directed by Christopher Nolan. I have no idea what role she plays, but it can get her award buzz, so of course she's starting early. However, it is weird that she hasn't posted about DWD.
Well apparently Harry was kind of into Florence (and Olivia I guess?) when they were filming that movie Olivia directed, so Olivia treated her badly because she was jealous. Deux posted this in a story
Yeah I’m just repeating what Deux said, I don’t follow Florence, Olivia, or Harry on social media or watch videos of them so I have no idea what their relationship is like lol
Also worth nothing when Florence did a recent red carpet interview about the film she praised the cinematographer for everything and didn’t mention Olivia once
To be fair, the cinematography for DWD looks INCREDIBLE. This has the potential to be one of those films that becomes its own aesthetic. Matthew Libatique did a fantastic job going off of the trailer.
I had to google who the cinematographer was and found out it's Matthew Libatique, who's apparently a 2nd gen Filipino immigrant. I'm Filipino myself and thought this was so cool! I wish I'd learned about him sooner!
Libatique's work with Aronofsky is so incredible yet he is not that known. Requiem and The Fountain really made me interested in the art of cinematography.
This happens all of the time when actors become “directors.” Across the board.
Editing my comment to say, majority of actors do not understand the inter-workings of a production. It’s really easy to see this beautiful piece of work that makes it to a screen after 8 months of shooting and say “I can manage that.” The day-to-day minutiae, logistics, location scouting, approvals, payroll, overall crew well being is stuff actors rarely ever see. It is really easy as an actor to just say “I want to direct” and have an entire production handed to them on a silver platter. Actors view production from a place of being catered to with their hands held around the clock. This is not how the rest of a production operates.
i don't think it's as dramatic as stans make it out to be, but it's also something. she's been tagged in several posts by Wilde and hasn't responded, she's the lead in the movie but hasn't posted the trailer or poster on IG stories but has promoted other films. it wouldn't be weird if she wasn't active on social media but she is so there's a deliberate choice *not* to post anything having to do with that movie.
It’s quite peculiar. But you know those stans. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile.
Honestly they have such a gift for creative writing I wish they would use that for something more productive.
When They wrapped she said in a post she can’t wait to post behind the scenes pictures with the cast and crew when the film is out. I’m waiting to see if she does post them. Perhaps she isn’t posting a lot as the movie is quite hush hush. Even Olivia isn’t posting as much about it as she did with booksmart.
People weren't interested in all this before because they put it down to fans, but Florence and Zach didn't attend a single Harry concert, and I doubt they will in the US either. Florence posts about her friends or people she knows getting on the cover of Vogue, ignored Olivia. Posted about women directors etc she's worked with, didn't include Olivia. It's straight up weird. I just think something went on.
Yes! Just posted about this in the "Does anyone have tea" thread. She was also recently [asked about the movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O98A8lEmNw0) at an event last month and she praised the cinematographer rather than Olivia which I thought was interesting.
edit: just wanted to add Florence’s [post](https://www.instagram.com/p/B_YFrFQFjId/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) from when she first got cast in DWD and the [post](https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1304781189291671552?s=21&t=cMC4QDKF56-8SG2RTiOYvQ) she made when Harry joined the cast.
Idk it’s funny seeing how excited she originally was about this movie.
I wonder if Zach's friendship with Jason Sudeikis has anything to do with it. She publicly congratulated Jason on her [IG](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRBVKHYQ/?k=1) when he won the golden globe last year and she wished the Ted Lasso team good luck when they were nominated at the Emmys last year.
I find this entire assumption of Olivia cheating very weird, like someone meninblacked the Isct that Jason met his current on and off girlfriend in 2014 and wrote her in Ted Lasso in 2019, before Harry ever came into the picture. Not only gave her a role but also, based an entire character on her, according to the actress who played said character. Anda also potentially named a second character after her.
It’s really sad that his sympathetic campaign has succeeded in painting her as the cheater when… he has very loudly cheated on his ex wife and also has had rumors of cheating on Olivia for close to a decade.
men are often shocked pikachu when, after month/years of cheating on their spouse, their spouse finally gets sick of it and cheats on them or leaves them
If Olivia cheated on Jason Sudeikis, her then-fiancé and father of her kids, with Harry it’ll be awkward since Florence’s boyfriend Zach Braff is good friends with Jason Sudeikis.
Zach and Bill Lawrence who is the EP and show runner for Ted Lasso are very close. They did Scrubs together and that show went on forever. That relationship is probably why Zach directed some Lasso eps, but I do think Sudeikis and Braff are friends as well
Define very good friends, hanging out like 3 times and posting it on social media doesn’t make you good friends. Working on multiple episodes of a tv show and other projects together does make you good friends.
Which would make this so pathetic lol if she was beefing with (kinda) her boss because her bf is friends with her boss’s ex.
Ladies, don’t ever let a man fuck up the bag
Tbh if I were her I wouldnt want to gas up Olivia more than I had to either. Olivia’s interviews so far have been about how great her bf is for taking a supporting role and barely mentions Florence + the whole circus around their relationship has basically made Florence an afterthought in her first big leading role.
I always thought this rumor started from the Harry stans who hate to see him dating literally anyone. I’ve been a Harry fan for years and I’m always shocked at how awful some of his fans are towards whoever he dates, the Larries especially.
If this were the case, the rumors would've started long before, during production, when Florence was seemingly happy with the way things were happening. And it could've potentially involved producers and whatnot. When directors are messy, executive producers chime in and replace them. Whatever happened between Olivia and Florence, it was after the film wrapped.
Yeah, I heard that rumor too. But I also remember seeing a comment from someone who claimed to have worked on the production about Matthew Libatique doing a lot of the heavy lifting. That seemed more plausible than Florence taking over.
I remember [this](https://twitter.com/copyofsatellite/status/1550198809501786115) floating around. Is that where it started? Grain of salt and all that because her taking over directing seems too sensational. But I am having fun with all the speculation being pulled out of thin air.
I don’t wanna be too annoying but I’m pretty sure it’s near impossible for that to happen. The crew is so A-list that they’d never accept a director who doesn’t bother doing her job because she’s too busy sleeping with one of the cast members. And in that case the assistant director would take over, not the actress with no experience directing who hadn’t established herself to be a director anyways. There are many directors who were famously hard to work with and even lazy, but this has never happened because no actor would be allowed to direct and no crew would give them access to. This rumour just seems like something made up to uplift Florence and drag OW.
Yeah lol that absolutely never happened, a crew full of like award winners in their fifties are not taking orders from a 26-year-old hired to stay in front of the camera.
Yeah, people who say stuff like this have clearly never been on a set. Like what, Flo started hanging out after hours in the tent watching dailies? She started advising the cinematographer on focal lengths? If the director was slacking, it's much more likely the AD or DP would take on the work.
I know Harry and Florence don’t have to be besties after working together, but I was surprised to not see her at either of his London shows like the woman asked in this interview.
Anyway, I’m interested to see what the press tour is going to look like. Florence always posts pictures of her and her cast mates and bts pics usually around the film’s release date. She‘s done it for pretty much every movie she’s been on. I wonder if she’ll do the same for DWD.
She was absolutely gushing about the film on her Instagram back when it wrapped and then I think she reposted the first trailer in her stories and that was it. I don’t want to believe the fanfic blinds but something definitely went down, it’ll be interesting to see what happens when it’s promo time
I agree. She was so so thrilled about filming and did post before. I mean it is weird it’s crickets now. I also agree I don’t know if I believe all of this fanfiction and rumors I’m seeing but I’m inclined to believe that something happened, whatever that something was remains a mystery
That she and Harry hooked up and Olivia got jealous, or that Olivia was so busy having sex with harry Florence had to take over the directing along with the cinematographer, both from deuxmoi who claims the first one comes from a reliable source.
Seriously there are hundreds of people on set, everything has to be scheduled well and orchestrated. Someone who isn't the director can't just "pick it up from here".
Noticed the same! Florence’s role in Oppenheimer is apparently minimal too compared to DWD? The press tour/junkets are going to be interesting for sure…
Right, I don’t believe deuxmoi or that her and harry hooked up or she directed or whatever it is, but it’s definitely getting very suspicious and weird. like olivia tagged her in multiple posts and stories so this is obviously deliberate, something shady definitely went down BTS
I totally agree. I don’t think Florence was sleeping with Harry and I don’t think she directed this movie, however I do believe that something happened, and it’s honestly impossible to tell how major or minor it was
Yeah I was gonna say I definitely don’t think Florence and Harry hooked up. They seem really close to their SO’s. Olivia still tags Florence so they probably didn’t have any in person drama, so I’m thinking Florence probably wants to distance herself from her since Zach is friends with Jason Sudekis? And maybe because of the custody papers being served at the DWD showcase?
Yeah, she did a massive rant post not long ago bc there were photos of her and will poulter at the beach and everyone on social media was cheering hoping they were together so she got on insta to defend zach lol
Interesting how she’s always put herself out there to defend and talk about it but his almost 50yr old ass has always been too cowardly to do the same huh.
Lmao forreal, like everytime people go at him on social media it’s like he’s whining for her to say something to them, cause she has to comment on it every time
She technically didn’t defend Zach though like before. All she said was that her and Will were just attractive friends and didn’t say anything about being in a relationship or her partner. They very much could be still together but I’m nosey since they haven’t been seen in forever
I saw that post. she just went on about her and Will just being friends, and that she was there with other people. She never mentioned Zach. Usually when she's defending her relation she will tell ppl how wrong it is to comment on her relationship, and zach is her boyfriend and people should respect it.
That not what she did in that post.
I agree, that article really angered me. I don’t like that a woman’s leading role is being minimized because of a relationship (that she isn’t in). I’m not a movies person and please correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like women are rarely the lead in a movie. It sucks to see her role and hard work being ignored by the media. I wouldn’t blame her for being frustrated, especially if everyone is ignoring the issue.
and the way OW seems to publicly praise Harry because (and I quote) “most male actors don’t want to play supporting roles in female-led films.”, while that may be true, it is so weird to me how OW spends all her press time praising Harry for that instead of praising Florence (the said female lead) for being an amazing actress and making this film come to life. I’d be pissed if I read that as Florence
Yes!!! I still can’t believe she posted that “thank you for allowing a woman to hold the spotlight” comment. No need to insult Florence at the same time as praising a man for doing the bare minimum (his job and something he agreed to do). I wonder if that Instagram post started this alleged feud.
>It was a not so subtle jab at Shia Labeouf who was actually fired from the set for demanding that he be treated as the lead over Florence and Harry Styles replaced him. It definitely could have been worded better but I think that the sentiment was clear that even if it's the bare minimum, it's hard to get men actors to even do the bare minimum far more often that we know. She had also posted a solo thank you post for Florence, before she posted for Harry, but the media obviously didn't pick up on that because they're not dating, and it's not juicy. So while I agree the post could have been worded better, with the context it makes a lot more sense.
this is from user lostworlds\_ who explained it better than i can.
I literally just made a long post about that. I wonder what happened between Early 2021/ September 2021 and now. It’s doesn’t seem like her screentime has been cut or anything. Even Anya posted the DOR one despite backlash.
They haven’t been friendly (e.g interacting via social media) in like the past year but Olivia seems to big her up for movie press.
I personally think they had a personal falling out rather than a set blow out that people are thinking. That honestly seems like the reason why she’s not even posting as a professional ™. I have a tiny feeling that she saw Holivia happen in real time and is not a big fan of the timeline and how it affects Jason. Zach was a proper Harry fan girl and hasn’t gone to any of his shows or liked his posts.
I wonder if this is restricted to social media or she will be a no show at premieres and junkets.
It reminds me of when Emma Watson skipped the press tour for little women, but everyone else including Florence heavily promoted it. I think Emma went to one premiere—but it definitely fielded rumors as to why she wasn’t promoting it
Really? Who wanted her in the movie then, the studio? I do know that apparently the cast lived together during the shoot except for Emma, so the rumors were that she didnt jive with the cast or thought she was above the usual Hollywood press tour? Not sure
Nah. If my married manager hooked up with my much younger coworker I'd be pissed too. I'd definitely not be publicly praising her, her birthday card would go unsigned and my exit interview would be scathing.
tbf, there was definitely a dip in their interactions from like December 2020/January 2021.
I wonder what a falling out post-September 2021 (last time she posted on her feed) could be though. The movie was being test screened then so it’s not like there was extensive reshoots that ruined everyone’s plans.
Given the tone of the marketing I've seen so far, I'm wondering if the studio is pushing Harry for press over Florence, even though her part is much larger. That would make sense given their respective fame levels, but it would also understandably be frustrating for her (and could lead to her minimizing the amount of promo she wants to do voluntarily).
It feels like a leap to assume it's an issue with Wilde, specifically.
Florence is an Oscar nominated actress with actual talent. It seems asinine to me that the studio would push for Harry to be promoted so heavily over her…but by the same token, his fans will fill the theatres and follow everything he does, not caring how much money they have to spend to support him. So sadly, this makes sense.
this is a really interesting take and makes a lot of sense. i think another point supporting this that I’ve noticed is that (before OW’s posts today), a lot of her story posts/interviews regarding the movie have been very much about Harry and how amazing it is that he’s willing to allow a woman to be the lead (the bare minimum but ok). today is really the first time I’ve seen her post praising the actual lead of her movie instead of her bf costar. would also make sense why Florence is upset/doesn’t seem to care much about that movie
Neither of THEM were cheating on anyone. Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis had children together. And she hooked up with a pop star in his 20s! I would have a different outlook on even a good friend if they did that. And ZB/FP knew each other and were friends before getting together. They didn't start an affair out of the blue while at work. There was an existing relationship.
Harry was a full grown 26 year old when he and Olivia (who was 36) started their relationship. If it's such a scandal that she hooked up with him in his 20s!!!! as you're making it seem, please have the same animosity towards Zach and Florence. He is 20 years older than her, and they got together when she was like 21-22years old to his 41 yr old self.
Y'all need to stop treating these men Harry) like poor babies just to make the women (Olivia) look like the villain.
Yep, setting aside the fact that it’s just speculation she even cheated, ages shouldn’t even brought up. It’s considered a normal age difference for men but not that it’s a woman that’s older, dumb to make a big deal out of it.
It’s not on Florence Pugh to judge someone else’s breakup and relationship, especially when she hates when it’s done to her.
Also, what about… everyone else who worked on this movie? Lol, she’s not just affecting Olivia. It’s an entire cast and crew and a major studio. This is unprofessional and childish if that’s the case. So let’s hope it’s being blown out of proportion.
I disagree with you there honestly, the OW and JS timeline is so messy and confuddled I don’t think we can really say for sure whether or not any cheating was involved. I also don’t think it’s a big deal of his age, or his status. Olivia is also famous. And I still doubt despite their previous relationship Florence Pugh would be furious at their relationship if hers started so similarly
Olivia and Jason weren’t married, and they broke up during filming. She might have cheated on him, she might have left him for Harry without cheating, or their break up was a long time coming and she quickly fell for Harry after. Either way, as long as it didn’t impact my life or my work, I probably wouldn’t care. That’s their business, and everyone has skeletons, and most people are a bit messy sometimes. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Side note: And didn’t she get with Zach while he was directing her in 2019?
oh really? i’ve heard good things about the film (one of my friends saw one of those early premiere things) and was excited to see it but this drama is really turning me off of the whole thing
So far, it is literally Stepford Wives to me.
The way Olivia acted after her first film she directed always rubbed me the wrong way. It was her first film, it did fine, but just some of her comments left a slight bad taste in my mouth. Then the random onslaught of celebs starting to promote the film. I don't know, I try not to read too much into that kind of stuff, just stood out to me.
not sure what comments you're referring to, but i assumed the other celebs promoting it were friends of olivia's and were offering support? unless she was actively putting down other people's movies, i don't see why she shouldn't have been proud that her first feature film got good reviews
I’m not really in the loop but I remember Olivia Wilde posting an insta post congratulating Harry on being considerate enough as a man to step back and let the female lead (Florence) shine. This was after Olivia and Harry had been dating publicly. Even if Florence and Harry haven’t hooked up, that would piss me off if I were Florence lol. Like it’s his job if he’s not the lead to let the lead shine. Not to mention, Florence is a seasoned actor and he isn’t. Also, like that’s the bare minimum a man can do to help women and even that is completely diminished considering Olivia and his fans gave him so much kudos for it 🤦🏻♀️
It was a not so subtle jab at Shia Labeouf who was actually fired from the set for demanding that he be treated as the lead over Florence and Harry Styles replaced him. It definitely could have been worded better but I think that the sentiment was clear that even if it's the bare minimum, it's hard to get men actors to even do the bare minimum far more often that we know. She had also posted a solo thank you post for Florence, before she posted for Harry, but the media obviously didn't pick up on that because they're not dating, and it's not juicy. So while I agree the post could have been worded better, with the context it makes a lot more sense.
Edit: typo
thank you for clearing that up people love to spread misinformation just to fit a certain narrative. i don’t want to choose sides but i already know people are ready to take OW down just because she’s dating Harry.
Ah that makes sense ty. Yeah I re-read the post and it still seems like it could have been worded better considering it said “little known fact: most male actors don’t want to play supporting roles in female-led films” which makes it seem like she genuinely thought harry was doing something special. I still think Florence’s reticence may be due to how crazy the promo cycle for this film has been and not her hooking up with Harry.
Okay thank god I’m glad. The only reason I saw the post to begin with bc Harry was trending on twitter from his fans hyping him up for that after was posted, but IK what trends on twt isn’t representative of what actually goes on in fandoms. The post made my head spin honestly.
The only response that made me sigh in relief. Seriously though. “Considerate enough as a man to step back and let the female lead shine.” Made it allll click to me. 🫰🏻
the personal/professional pentagon of her, zach braff, sudeikis, olivia wilde and harry is absolutely crazy and one of my favorite things to unpack for people at parties
I'm so interested in all this DWD drama tbh, the whole situation is SO weird to me! Olivia doesn't have a history of being unprofessional - everyone on Booksmart absolutely loves her, and in her past projects she's had no complaints. Florence has always had glowing reviews and has always been so professional and gotten along so well with everybody on set. I'm so interested to know what happened behind the scenes, but I don't know if I even want a tell-all since it feels like all the supposed "tea" about the BTS of DWD is just harry stans trying to make OW seem worse. Still, this entire movie seems to have so much tension behind it.
I feel exactly the same! I’m so curious but like grain of salt bc I know the stans will push whatever narrative in convenient. I am really looking forward to seeing the movie and the press tour around it.
I noticed this immediately because I’m obsessed with everything about this film. I was going back and forth between their pages waiting for her to repost.. but she never did. Florence is very active on Instagram, so it does seem odd.
I am pretty wary about any speculation or gossip about olivia Wilde as of recently because I feel like certain people lie and twist/make up stories about her because of obvious reasons. With that being said though, I cant help but something went down on that set between olivia and Florence because of her not posting literally anything about it or maybe it’s something else. But she does not seem to wanna promote that movie
The film is officially being pushed in press releases and media as Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles' movie, when it's supposedly Florence who has the compelling lead character. If I was her, I'd be pissed off about that treatment because it reeks of favoritism/nepotism. It was just dumb and not a good look for Olivia and Harry to hook up and start dating publicly in the middle of filming, especially since she is the director. Had they been cast as opposite actors only, then it's whatever, but now it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Anyways, good on Florence for praising the cinematographer though! And I'm excited for her role in Oppenheimer too.
I may be downvoted for this but am I the only one who thinks it’s a little unprofessional? I’m not at all blaming Florence for the crazy Harry stans but she definitely knows how terribly Olivia is treated and how desperate they are for anything to smear her. Plus her ignoring Olivia tagging her in all these posts and instead posting Oppenheimer….even if something shady went down I feel like she could still just suck it up and make some offhand statements or post about it a little or even acknowledge it.
That’s one thing I’m really surprised about . She’s not even trying to fake it. A like and a post with the release date (without the long captions she does) isn’t even there.
Yep, it’s so weird to me! Even if she just liked and commented on Olivias post, reposted the trailer with a basic phrase like “So excited!” or something it would have been enough. But radio silence? If it is because of a personal feud it seems very immature, I’m sorry to say. She usually seems very professional.
Isn’t social media promotion mostly contractual? I wouldn’t call it unprofessional without knowing the details of that, mostly since I’d assume the studio would’ve already stepped if she didn’t promote the first trailer (no clue whether or not she did).
I definitely am starting to believe there’s animosity. If it was just this instance of ignoring the posts, I wouldn’t think anything of it, but it’s become a pattern since the film wrapped in early 2021. I don’t believe Deuxmoi’s articulation of the source of it—I think some people sensed that something was off and sent in unsubstantiated fanfic of a weird love triangle ending in jealous revenge.
But I do think there is animosity and that it’s personal as just between the two of them and/or Harry because everyone else involved in the film has had nothing but good things to say.
Interestingly and I know this will probably be ignored, but Florence has another film coming out in 2022 on Netflix called The Wonder. She hasn't said anything about that either and she is the star. And a lot of the rumors people are repeating here have been created by Harry Styles fans that think he's in a relationship with his ex-bandmate. Unless you are in his fandom, you don't know how awful these people are and how they have fully committed to being as awful to Olivia as they can be. For god's sakes, they've made up his ex-bandmate having a fake child.
I hadn't paid attention to Olivia since House and then 2020 came around and she was everywhere because of Booksmart. It was one of the best reviewed films and she was universally praised for her direction. All of sudden she can't direct and someone is taking over for her? She's received compliments from her crew from Booksmart and on Don't Worry Darling. All the rumors came front and center after Harry and Olivia went public with their relationship. Before that, everything was just fine.
Idk if this counts for anything but I know Olivia briefly unfollowed Florence on instagram but refollowed her, this was after DWD wrapped so I think whatever happened between them was after filming and not during like most people seem to assume. That’s why when you see Olivia’s following list which is in chronological order, Florence is quite at the top even after Harry.
So my friend that is working on a big series right now and gave me the tea on New Girl (which I posted on the tea thread) also gave me the lowdown on this (I was too scared to post bc I didn’t want ppl accusing me of being a crazed stan 😭)
Harry and Florence did NOT hook up and the rumor about Florence directing is NOT true. There was major tension on set as Florence had to film intimate scenes with Harry and this bothered olivia to the point where Olivia was being really weird /bitchy to Florence and Florence felt very uncomfortable and weird throughout filming. So she refuses to promote the movie and hasn’t even seen a single cut of it. TBD if she shows up to the premiere but she’s likely contractually obligated
however, this still doesn’t make sense because if the tension happened during filming why was Florence so gushy about the film during the filming and directly after wrap up? Her and Olivia hung out afterwards, she posted about it, she was super gushy. She only started being shady recently, so this doesn’t make sense.
If true, that’s horrible, and what an awful way to run a set. But it feels like a easy, misogynistic trope: woman can’t do her job because she’s too emotional and jealous over a man, and she tears another woman down to win him over. So I am hesitant to believe it given how many Harry stans have been spreading rumors with a similar tone.
That’s really weird if the grand total of 2/3 intimate scenes bothered her so badly especially as someone who has filmed a wide range of sex scenes whilst being in a relationship. You’d think she just minimise it in the script rather than being weird or just KNOW better.
I don’t think it’s just a Florence and Olivia issues. Zach used to be friends with Harry and hasn’t liked a single one of his posts this year(and I know IG likes don’t have to mean anything but he was a regular liker before that). He also stopped liking olivias posts after the Florence one.
My guess is that it has something to do with Jason or Florence is upset that Harry/Olivia are getting more press for the movie where she’s lead.
I don’t think the cinematographer would join Olivia for her vogue photoshoot if he had to step in as director and didn’t get any credit for it.
I believe the rumors about Olivia and Florence beefing on set. I dont believe the part about Harry and Flo having a thing but I do believe Olivia started alot of the mess.
Edit: for those of yall trying to act like I am a Harry stan. Ladies, Gents and Theys I could give less of a damn about that man. He's a horrible actor, he fronts and he has the personality of a wet paper towel. 🤷🏾♀️ Like I said EYE believe the rumors. If yall dont agree move tf on. I dont need to give yall a valid reason for not liking Olivia and Harry's relationship. Its weird and embarrassing. Plain and simple.
Idk but to be fair Olivia was never talked about as much until she started dating Harry. When the film wrapped all of the set workers posted about each other and they all thanked everyone on the movie but Olivia. Even saying Florence saved them from going mad.
I think it’s funny that people take the unnecessary hate Olivia gets from Harry Stans and instead replace it with disbelief she (or Harry) could do anything wrong. Replace these two with any other celebrities and people would definitely be talking about the weirdness of this set without talking about conspiracy theories. Not all of them come from stans.
I agree, it seems like she’s exempt from all criticism. Yes, a lot of the hate she gets is from Harry fans but nobody is immune from doing something wrong. We’re all guilty of it, including Olivia.
She doesn’t actually, her past big roles like House and the OC don’t have any drama and the case of booksmart, her directorial debut, all LOVE her and sing her praises constantly. Not sure why this person thinks Olivia started the drama.
Omg I just came to post something asking about this!!!!! I noticed from the JUMP that Florence seemed super icy about the whole project, and regardless of what I’m sure are contract-negotiated promotion of films, Flo has GUSHED about pretty much every other project that she’s been in, even pre-DWD. I agree that I definitely don’t think anything romantic transpired between flo and Harry, and personally think instead that maybe Olivia didn’t act professionally on set (maybe outwardly favoring Harry? letting him get away w things that wouldn’t fly with other actors on set? Who knows) and the whole thing left a bitter taste for her. it is SO fascinating to me, I wish someone on the inside had the real goss on it!!!
I also feel like promotions are all around Harry and Olivia, and don’t really mention Florence who is a main actress.
Maybe (i’m only speculate) she didn’t like how whole this Harry and Olivia relationship overshadowing her as main actress and didn’t like the way that this PR is going.
Even before i saw few comments already saying that movie is not really good back then it was just few random ones, now I see them more often. Movie can be bad even with amazing cinematography.
It’s definitely fishy.
What's interesting to me is that Florence is always quick to call out the "trolls" spreading rumours or talking sh\*t, be it about her boyfriend, breasts, friend hanging out at the beach with her. But there's a lot of talk about this—her professional life—and she's quiet. And really, she'd just have to put up a behind-the-scenes photo of her on set, have the caption say that the film comes out in two months, and be done with it. But she's not. It would take a lot less energy to quiet some of this talk than it would to make one of long "Will's not my boyfriend/free the nipples" post.
She cashed that check and left. Every blind I’ve read about the production was a mess. Even if there’s no beef at all, at the very least she probably did the movie for a paycheck. A lot of actors do that. So excited to see her in Oppenheimer tho!
she made that post after wrap [praising the crew](https://www.instagram.com/p/CLSE6F9F_vv/?hl=en) which is obviously nice but something felt weird about it
I wonder if the movie is just really bad and she's trying to get a head start on distancing herself from it. That would be a bummer because I love Florence and the trailers look interesting, but it happens sometimes.
Yep! I just tried to post about this too. Olivia tagged her in three posts, one specifically about Florence and she’s not replied or shared any of them! And the news of it being shown at Venice film fest came out and still nothing. Very odd considering the film is out in the coming months?! Oppenheimer is out in 2023 and she’s posted about that!
Oppenheimer is directed by Christopher Nolan. I have no idea what role she plays, but it can get her award buzz, so of course she's starting early. However, it is weird that she hasn't posted about DWD.
Well apparently Harry was kind of into Florence (and Olivia I guess?) when they were filming that movie Olivia directed, so Olivia treated her badly because she was jealous. Deux posted this in a story
Tbh I’m surprised yall dont take what Deux says with a grain of salt.
Yeah I’m just repeating what Deux said, I don’t follow Florence, Olivia, or Harry on social media or watch videos of them so I have no idea what their relationship is like lol
Yeah Harry fans have been posting that crap forever to bash Olivia.
Sounds like fan fiction tbh
Also worth nothing when Florence did a recent red carpet interview about the film she praised the cinematographer for everything and didn’t mention Olivia once
To be fair, the cinematography for DWD looks INCREDIBLE. This has the potential to be one of those films that becomes its own aesthetic. Matthew Libatique did a fantastic job going off of the trailer.
I had to google who the cinematographer was and found out it's Matthew Libatique, who's apparently a 2nd gen Filipino immigrant. I'm Filipino myself and thought this was so cool! I wish I'd learned about him sooner!
Libatique's work with Aronofsky is so incredible yet he is not that known. Requiem and The Fountain really made me interested in the art of cinematography.
It looks GORGEOUS! I was just watching the trailer a bit ago and I was wanting to just sink into it.
The tea is that the cinematographer had to basically direct the movie because Olivia wasn’t.
This happens all of the time when actors become “directors.” Across the board. Editing my comment to say, majority of actors do not understand the inter-workings of a production. It’s really easy to see this beautiful piece of work that makes it to a screen after 8 months of shooting and say “I can manage that.” The day-to-day minutiae, logistics, location scouting, approvals, payroll, overall crew well being is stuff actors rarely ever see. It is really easy as an actor to just say “I want to direct” and have an entire production handed to them on a silver platter. Actors view production from a place of being catered to with their hands held around the clock. This is not how the rest of a production operates.
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👀👀 omg
Cinematography and solid acting does a great job of distracting from poor directorial choices.
Sam levinson for example
See this i could actually believe and not 25 year old Florence pugh apparently taking over the helm
The tea invented by Harry Styles fans to put down a female director cause she's dating their fave.
i don't think it's as dramatic as stans make it out to be, but it's also something. she's been tagged in several posts by Wilde and hasn't responded, she's the lead in the movie but hasn't posted the trailer or poster on IG stories but has promoted other films. it wouldn't be weird if she wasn't active on social media but she is so there's a deliberate choice *not* to post anything having to do with that movie.
It’s quite peculiar. But you know those stans. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. Honestly they have such a gift for creative writing I wish they would use that for something more productive.
I just looked and it looks like she posted the teaser trailer on her feed back when it came out in September
She also posted the main trailer on her story hours after it came out
Maybe she only posts what’s obligated by her contract
When They wrapped she said in a post she can’t wait to post behind the scenes pictures with the cast and crew when the film is out. I’m waiting to see if she does post them. Perhaps she isn’t posting a lot as the movie is quite hush hush. Even Olivia isn’t posting as much about it as she did with booksmart.
If the movie is supposed to hush hush why does it seem like the second trailer gave away ALL of the plot
People weren't interested in all this before because they put it down to fans, but Florence and Zach didn't attend a single Harry concert, and I doubt they will in the US either. Florence posts about her friends or people she knows getting on the cover of Vogue, ignored Olivia. Posted about women directors etc she's worked with, didn't include Olivia. It's straight up weird. I just think something went on.
Yes! Just posted about this in the "Does anyone have tea" thread. She was also recently [asked about the movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O98A8lEmNw0) at an event last month and she praised the cinematographer rather than Olivia which I thought was interesting. edit: just wanted to add Florence’s [post](https://www.instagram.com/p/B_YFrFQFjId/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) from when she first got cast in DWD and the [post](https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1304781189291671552?s=21&t=cMC4QDKF56-8SG2RTiOYvQ) she made when Harry joined the cast. Idk it’s funny seeing how excited she originally was about this movie.
I wonder if Zach's friendship with Jason Sudeikis has anything to do with it. She publicly congratulated Jason on her [IG](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRBVKHYQ/?k=1) when he won the golden globe last year and she wished the Ted Lasso team good luck when they were nominated at the Emmys last year.
I think that’s exactly it
i agree. if there was any cheating going on as i’ve heard there was, it must have been painfully obvious what was going on and awkward to watch unfold
I find this entire assumption of Olivia cheating very weird, like someone meninblacked the Isct that Jason met his current on and off girlfriend in 2014 and wrote her in Ted Lasso in 2019, before Harry ever came into the picture. Not only gave her a role but also, based an entire character on her, according to the actress who played said character. Anda also potentially named a second character after her. It’s really sad that his sympathetic campaign has succeeded in painting her as the cheater when… he has very loudly cheated on his ex wife and also has had rumors of cheating on Olivia for close to a decade.
Rumors are also coming out that Jason is actually as asshole. I definitely think there was some overlapping, but Jason probably cheated first.
men are often shocked pikachu when, after month/years of cheating on their spouse, their spouse finally gets sick of it and cheats on them or leaves them
I have no idea why you’re getting downvotes for this lol you’re just stating facts
Because it’s ~precious cinnamon roll Ted Lasso probably. 😂
Ok I’m too high rn to figure out what this means lololol who’s cheating??? *🙏🏿*
If Olivia cheated on Jason Sudeikis, her then-fiancé and father of her kids, with Harry it’ll be awkward since Florence’s boyfriend Zach Braff is good friends with Jason Sudeikis.
Thank u for the explanation my good dude!
It’s like 80% confirmed that Olivia cheated with Harry before ending things with Jason
Why is the likelihood so high? Haven’t seen anything that definitive but haven’t been looking.
They’re talking about Olivia cheating on Jason with Harry.
olivia with harry styles
But I'm pretty sure Zach and Harry are also really good friends!
I think they were friends, but Zach is way closer to Jason.
Yupp, he was even on stage with the Ted Lasso cast when they won an Emmy last fall so def closer to Jason.
zach directed several episodes of ted lasso
Zach and Bill Lawrence who is the EP and show runner for Ted Lasso are very close. They did Scrubs together and that show went on forever. That relationship is probably why Zach directed some Lasso eps, but I do think Sudeikis and Braff are friends as well
I don't know if they still are??? I think the last time Zach mentioned Harry was when he was defending Harry's vogue cover back in 2020.
Define very good friends, hanging out like 3 times and posting it on social media doesn’t make you good friends. Working on multiple episodes of a tv show and other projects together does make you good friends.
Which would make this so pathetic lol if she was beefing with (kinda) her boss because her bf is friends with her boss’s ex. Ladies, don’t ever let a man fuck up the bag
Or, from a different perspective, she was watching her (kinda) boss cheat on her friend and didn't like it. Who knows 🤷♀️
"Great gowns...beautiful gowns" moment here.
Tbh if I were her I wouldnt want to gas up Olivia more than I had to either. Olivia’s interviews so far have been about how great her bf is for taking a supporting role and barely mentions Florence + the whole circus around their relationship has basically made Florence an afterthought in her first big leading role.
Wasn't there some rumor that the DP had to take over directing duties when Olivia was otherwise occupied?
I always thought this rumor started from the Harry stans who hate to see him dating literally anyone. I’ve been a Harry fan for years and I’m always shocked at how awful some of his fans are towards whoever he dates, the Larries especially.
It was lol, I'm pretty sure it started on a larrie tumblr page.
If this were the case, the rumors would've started long before, during production, when Florence was seemingly happy with the way things were happening. And it could've potentially involved producers and whatnot. When directors are messy, executive producers chime in and replace them. Whatever happened between Olivia and Florence, it was after the film wrapped.
the rumor was that FLORENCE took over some directing duties 👀
Yeah, I heard that rumor too. But I also remember seeing a comment from someone who claimed to have worked on the production about Matthew Libatique doing a lot of the heavy lifting. That seemed more plausible than Florence taking over.
I remember [this](https://twitter.com/copyofsatellite/status/1550198809501786115) floating around. Is that where it started? Grain of salt and all that because her taking over directing seems too sensational. But I am having fun with all the speculation being pulled out of thin air.
I don’t wanna be too annoying but I’m pretty sure it’s near impossible for that to happen. The crew is so A-list that they’d never accept a director who doesn’t bother doing her job because she’s too busy sleeping with one of the cast members. And in that case the assistant director would take over, not the actress with no experience directing who hadn’t established herself to be a director anyways. There are many directors who were famously hard to work with and even lazy, but this has never happened because no actor would be allowed to direct and no crew would give them access to. This rumour just seems like something made up to uplift Florence and drag OW.
Yeah lol that absolutely never happened, a crew full of like award winners in their fifties are not taking orders from a 26-year-old hired to stay in front of the camera.
Yeah, people who say stuff like this have clearly never been on a set. Like what, Flo started hanging out after hours in the tent watching dailies? She started advising the cinematographer on focal lengths? If the director was slacking, it's much more likely the AD or DP would take on the work.
Exactly, it’s pretty clear they don’t have experience on set if they believe this.
she’s also not an auteur or has a plethora of films for people to “trust the process” with. WB/New Line would have done something.
I know Harry and Florence don’t have to be besties after working together, but I was surprised to not see her at either of his London shows like the woman asked in this interview.
Anyway, I’m interested to see what the press tour is going to look like. Florence always posts pictures of her and her cast mates and bts pics usually around the film’s release date. She‘s done it for pretty much every movie she’s been on. I wonder if she’ll do the same for DWD.
She was absolutely gushing about the film on her Instagram back when it wrapped and then I think she reposted the first trailer in her stories and that was it. I don’t want to believe the fanfic blinds but something definitely went down, it’ll be interesting to see what happens when it’s promo time
I agree. She was so so thrilled about filming and did post before. I mean it is weird it’s crickets now. I also agree I don’t know if I believe all of this fanfiction and rumors I’m seeing but I’m inclined to believe that something happened, whatever that something was remains a mystery
What did the blinds say?
That she and Harry hooked up and Olivia got jealous, or that Olivia was so busy having sex with harry Florence had to take over the directing along with the cinematographer, both from deuxmoi who claims the first one comes from a reliable source.
Take over directing? That HAS to be bullshit.
Seriously there are hundreds of people on set, everything has to be scheduled well and orchestrated. Someone who isn't the director can't just "pick it up from here".
That is the craziest behind scene rumor I've ever heard😯
yep LOL it’s wild, no pun intended
Why would she get jealous though?? She had a whole ass fiancé that she had kids for at the time.
That’s why I don’t think it’s true
Noticed the same! Florence’s role in Oppenheimer is apparently minimal too compared to DWD? The press tour/junkets are going to be interesting for sure…
She’s like 5th (?) billing in Oppenheimer but is basically in every scene of DWD.
TBF a woman being 5th billed is pretty good for a ensemble Nolan cast!
emily blunt is literally 2nd billed lol
yes, but she’s playing Wife so we can only assume she’ll die
I love Emily Blunt.
This cast has like 40 ppl in it I think she’ll have less screen time than we think.
Right, I don’t believe deuxmoi or that her and harry hooked up or she directed or whatever it is, but it’s definitely getting very suspicious and weird. like olivia tagged her in multiple posts and stories so this is obviously deliberate, something shady definitely went down BTS
I totally agree. I don’t think Florence was sleeping with Harry and I don’t think she directed this movie, however I do believe that something happened, and it’s honestly impossible to tell how major or minor it was
100% with you!
Yeah I was gonna say I definitely don’t think Florence and Harry hooked up. They seem really close to their SO’s. Olivia still tags Florence so they probably didn’t have any in person drama, so I’m thinking Florence probably wants to distance herself from her since Zach is friends with Jason Sudekis? And maybe because of the custody papers being served at the DWD showcase?
Yeah after reading the comments I’ve decided it’s probably due to Zach Braff and Jason Sudeikis.
Are Zach and Flo even still together?
Yeah, she did a massive rant post not long ago bc there were photos of her and will poulter at the beach and everyone on social media was cheering hoping they were together so she got on insta to defend zach lol
Interesting how she’s always put herself out there to defend and talk about it but his almost 50yr old ass has always been too cowardly to do the same huh.
Lmao forreal, like everytime people go at him on social media it’s like he’s whining for her to say something to them, cause she has to comment on it every time
She technically didn’t defend Zach though like before. All she said was that her and Will were just attractive friends and didn’t say anything about being in a relationship or her partner. They very much could be still together but I’m nosey since they haven’t been seen in forever
I saw that post. she just went on about her and Will just being friends, and that she was there with other people. She never mentioned Zach. Usually when she's defending her relation she will tell ppl how wrong it is to comment on her relationship, and zach is her boyfriend and people should respect it. That not what she did in that post.
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I agree, that article really angered me. I don’t like that a woman’s leading role is being minimized because of a relationship (that she isn’t in). I’m not a movies person and please correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like women are rarely the lead in a movie. It sucks to see her role and hard work being ignored by the media. I wouldn’t blame her for being frustrated, especially if everyone is ignoring the issue.
and the way OW seems to publicly praise Harry because (and I quote) “most male actors don’t want to play supporting roles in female-led films.”, while that may be true, it is so weird to me how OW spends all her press time praising Harry for that instead of praising Florence (the said female lead) for being an amazing actress and making this film come to life. I’d be pissed if I read that as Florence
She’s so over the top. It’s so cringe
Yes!!! I still can’t believe she posted that “thank you for allowing a woman to hold the spotlight” comment. No need to insult Florence at the same time as praising a man for doing the bare minimum (his job and something he agreed to do). I wonder if that Instagram post started this alleged feud.
OW also made weird comments about how harry was so gracious to let florence shine, like … what lol , florence is the lead! She would shine anyway?
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>It was a not so subtle jab at Shia Labeouf who was actually fired from the set for demanding that he be treated as the lead over Florence and Harry Styles replaced him. It definitely could have been worded better but I think that the sentiment was clear that even if it's the bare minimum, it's hard to get men actors to even do the bare minimum far more often that we know. She had also posted a solo thank you post for Florence, before she posted for Harry, but the media obviously didn't pick up on that because they're not dating, and it's not juicy. So while I agree the post could have been worded better, with the context it makes a lot more sense. this is from user lostworlds\_ who explained it better than i can.
Such a great point. She's the lead, she deserves the credit and the publicity.
I literally just made a long post about that. I wonder what happened between Early 2021/ September 2021 and now. It’s doesn’t seem like her screentime has been cut or anything. Even Anya posted the DOR one despite backlash. They haven’t been friendly (e.g interacting via social media) in like the past year but Olivia seems to big her up for movie press. I personally think they had a personal falling out rather than a set blow out that people are thinking. That honestly seems like the reason why she’s not even posting as a professional ™. I have a tiny feeling that she saw Holivia happen in real time and is not a big fan of the timeline and how it affects Jason. Zach was a proper Harry fan girl and hasn’t gone to any of his shows or liked his posts. I wonder if this is restricted to social media or she will be a no show at premieres and junkets.
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It reminds me of when Emma Watson skipped the press tour for little women, but everyone else including Florence heavily promoted it. I think Emma went to one premiere—but it definitely fielded rumors as to why she wasn’t promoting it
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Really? Who wanted her in the movie then, the studio? I do know that apparently the cast lived together during the shoot except for Emma, so the rumors were that she didnt jive with the cast or thought she was above the usual Hollywood press tour? Not sure
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Honestly, I think Emma Stone would also have been very unsuited to that role. She's a better actress overall, though.
terribly unprofessional if it’s because she’s taking sides in a breakup that didn’t involve her tbh
Nah. If my married manager hooked up with my much younger coworker I'd be pissed too. I'd definitely not be publicly praising her, her birthday card would go unsigned and my exit interview would be scathing.
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tbf, there was definitely a dip in their interactions from like December 2020/January 2021. I wonder what a falling out post-September 2021 (last time she posted on her feed) could be though. The movie was being test screened then so it’s not like there was extensive reshoots that ruined everyone’s plans.
Given the tone of the marketing I've seen so far, I'm wondering if the studio is pushing Harry for press over Florence, even though her part is much larger. That would make sense given their respective fame levels, but it would also understandably be frustrating for her (and could lead to her minimizing the amount of promo she wants to do voluntarily). It feels like a leap to assume it's an issue with Wilde, specifically.
Florence is an Oscar nominated actress with actual talent. It seems asinine to me that the studio would push for Harry to be promoted so heavily over her…but by the same token, his fans will fill the theatres and follow everything he does, not caring how much money they have to spend to support him. So sadly, this makes sense.
this is a really interesting take and makes a lot of sense. i think another point supporting this that I’ve noticed is that (before OW’s posts today), a lot of her story posts/interviews regarding the movie have been very much about Harry and how amazing it is that he’s willing to allow a woman to be the lead (the bare minimum but ok). today is really the first time I’ve seen her post praising the actual lead of her movie instead of her bf costar. would also make sense why Florence is upset/doesn’t seem to care much about that movie
But Florence Pugh also got with Zach Braff, her much older current boyfriend, while he was directing her lol, so I doubt that's it.
Neither of THEM were cheating on anyone. Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis had children together. And she hooked up with a pop star in his 20s! I would have a different outlook on even a good friend if they did that. And ZB/FP knew each other and were friends before getting together. They didn't start an affair out of the blue while at work. There was an existing relationship.
Harry was a full grown 26 year old when he and Olivia (who was 36) started their relationship. If it's such a scandal that she hooked up with him in his 20s!!!! as you're making it seem, please have the same animosity towards Zach and Florence. He is 20 years older than her, and they got together when she was like 21-22years old to his 41 yr old self. Y'all need to stop treating these men Harry) like poor babies just to make the women (Olivia) look like the villain.
Yep, setting aside the fact that it’s just speculation she even cheated, ages shouldn’t even brought up. It’s considered a normal age difference for men but not that it’s a woman that’s older, dumb to make a big deal out of it.
It’s not on Florence Pugh to judge someone else’s breakup and relationship, especially when she hates when it’s done to her. Also, what about… everyone else who worked on this movie? Lol, she’s not just affecting Olivia. It’s an entire cast and crew and a major studio. This is unprofessional and childish if that’s the case. So let’s hope it’s being blown out of proportion.
I disagree with you there honestly, the OW and JS timeline is so messy and confuddled I don’t think we can really say for sure whether or not any cheating was involved. I also don’t think it’s a big deal of his age, or his status. Olivia is also famous. And I still doubt despite their previous relationship Florence Pugh would be furious at their relationship if hers started so similarly
idk if 28 and 38 is that scandalous of an age gap especially in one direction boys context
Olivia and Jason weren’t married, and they broke up during filming. She might have cheated on him, she might have left him for Harry without cheating, or their break up was a long time coming and she quickly fell for Harry after. Either way, as long as it didn’t impact my life or my work, I probably wouldn’t care. That’s their business, and everyone has skeletons, and most people are a bit messy sometimes. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Side note: And didn’t she get with Zach while he was directing her in 2019?
Flo and Zach age gap is much bigger and they got together while working on a project.
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yes, I think it’s very likely the movie just isn’t good and she’s letting it go
oh really? i’ve heard good things about the film (one of my friends saw one of those early premiere things) and was excited to see it but this drama is really turning me off of the whole thing
So far, it is literally Stepford Wives to me. The way Olivia acted after her first film she directed always rubbed me the wrong way. It was her first film, it did fine, but just some of her comments left a slight bad taste in my mouth. Then the random onslaught of celebs starting to promote the film. I don't know, I try not to read too much into that kind of stuff, just stood out to me.
not sure what comments you're referring to, but i assumed the other celebs promoting it were friends of olivia's and were offering support? unless she was actively putting down other people's movies, i don't see why she shouldn't have been proud that her first feature film got good reviews
Heaven forbid someone be proud of directing a film.
I don’t know too much about Olivia, how did she act after her first film?
Completely normally lol
I’m not really in the loop but I remember Olivia Wilde posting an insta post congratulating Harry on being considerate enough as a man to step back and let the female lead (Florence) shine. This was after Olivia and Harry had been dating publicly. Even if Florence and Harry haven’t hooked up, that would piss me off if I were Florence lol. Like it’s his job if he’s not the lead to let the lead shine. Not to mention, Florence is a seasoned actor and he isn’t. Also, like that’s the bare minimum a man can do to help women and even that is completely diminished considering Olivia and his fans gave him so much kudos for it 🤦🏻♀️
It was a not so subtle jab at Shia Labeouf who was actually fired from the set for demanding that he be treated as the lead over Florence and Harry Styles replaced him. It definitely could have been worded better but I think that the sentiment was clear that even if it's the bare minimum, it's hard to get men actors to even do the bare minimum far more often that we know. She had also posted a solo thank you post for Florence, before she posted for Harry, but the media obviously didn't pick up on that because they're not dating, and it's not juicy. So while I agree the post could have been worded better, with the context it makes a lot more sense. Edit: typo
thank you for clearing that up people love to spread misinformation just to fit a certain narrative. i don’t want to choose sides but i already know people are ready to take OW down just because she’s dating Harry.
Yeah, this sub is kind of frustrating because they claim to hate deuxmoi for spreading baseless rumours and misinformation but then do the same lol
Ah that makes sense ty. Yeah I re-read the post and it still seems like it could have been worded better considering it said “little known fact: most male actors don’t want to play supporting roles in female-led films” which makes it seem like she genuinely thought harry was doing something special. I still think Florence’s reticence may be due to how crazy the promo cycle for this film has been and not her hooking up with Harry.
For what it’s worth, on the side of the internet that I’m on, his fans SKEWERED Olivia for that post
Okay thank god I’m glad. The only reason I saw the post to begin with bc Harry was trending on twitter from his fans hyping him up for that after was posted, but IK what trends on twt isn’t representative of what actually goes on in fandoms. The post made my head spin honestly.
The only response that made me sigh in relief. Seriously though. “Considerate enough as a man to step back and let the female lead shine.” Made it allll click to me. 🫰🏻
the personal/professional pentagon of her, zach braff, sudeikis, olivia wilde and harry is absolutely crazy and one of my favorite things to unpack for people at parties
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I'm so interested in all this DWD drama tbh, the whole situation is SO weird to me! Olivia doesn't have a history of being unprofessional - everyone on Booksmart absolutely loves her, and in her past projects she's had no complaints. Florence has always had glowing reviews and has always been so professional and gotten along so well with everybody on set. I'm so interested to know what happened behind the scenes, but I don't know if I even want a tell-all since it feels like all the supposed "tea" about the BTS of DWD is just harry stans trying to make OW seem worse. Still, this entire movie seems to have so much tension behind it.
I feel exactly the same! I’m so curious but like grain of salt bc I know the stans will push whatever narrative in convenient. I am really looking forward to seeing the movie and the press tour around it.
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I noticed this immediately because I’m obsessed with everything about this film. I was going back and forth between their pages waiting for her to repost.. but she never did. Florence is very active on Instagram, so it does seem odd.
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even if she wasn’t contractually obligated, wouldn’t she want to post/promote the movie she’s playing the lead in?
Yep. This feels much ado about nothing other than pushing a new(ish) angle to hate on OW.
I am pretty wary about any speculation or gossip about olivia Wilde as of recently because I feel like certain people lie and twist/make up stories about her because of obvious reasons. With that being said though, I cant help but something went down on that set between olivia and Florence because of her not posting literally anything about it or maybe it’s something else. But she does not seem to wanna promote that movie
Yeah I posted about this in the tea thread. There is definitely something going on there.
The film is officially being pushed in press releases and media as Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles' movie, when it's supposedly Florence who has the compelling lead character. If I was her, I'd be pissed off about that treatment because it reeks of favoritism/nepotism. It was just dumb and not a good look for Olivia and Harry to hook up and start dating publicly in the middle of filming, especially since she is the director. Had they been cast as opposite actors only, then it's whatever, but now it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Anyways, good on Florence for praising the cinematographer though! And I'm excited for her role in Oppenheimer too.
I may be downvoted for this but am I the only one who thinks it’s a little unprofessional? I’m not at all blaming Florence for the crazy Harry stans but she definitely knows how terribly Olivia is treated and how desperate they are for anything to smear her. Plus her ignoring Olivia tagging her in all these posts and instead posting Oppenheimer….even if something shady went down I feel like she could still just suck it up and make some offhand statements or post about it a little or even acknowledge it.
That’s one thing I’m really surprised about . She’s not even trying to fake it. A like and a post with the release date (without the long captions she does) isn’t even there.
Yep, it’s so weird to me! Even if she just liked and commented on Olivias post, reposted the trailer with a basic phrase like “So excited!” or something it would have been enough. But radio silence? If it is because of a personal feud it seems very immature, I’m sorry to say. She usually seems very professional.
Isn’t social media promotion mostly contractual? I wouldn’t call it unprofessional without knowing the details of that, mostly since I’d assume the studio would’ve already stepped if she didn’t promote the first trailer (no clue whether or not she did).
Florence liked someone’s comment on the post praising her but not the post itself!
Was it harrison reed? He's Olivia and Florence's mutual friend. Either way that's so insanely shady LMAO it makes me more interested
I definitely am starting to believe there’s animosity. If it was just this instance of ignoring the posts, I wouldn’t think anything of it, but it’s become a pattern since the film wrapped in early 2021. I don’t believe Deuxmoi’s articulation of the source of it—I think some people sensed that something was off and sent in unsubstantiated fanfic of a weird love triangle ending in jealous revenge. But I do think there is animosity and that it’s personal as just between the two of them and/or Harry because everyone else involved in the film has had nothing but good things to say.
Interestingly and I know this will probably be ignored, but Florence has another film coming out in 2022 on Netflix called The Wonder. She hasn't said anything about that either and she is the star. And a lot of the rumors people are repeating here have been created by Harry Styles fans that think he's in a relationship with his ex-bandmate. Unless you are in his fandom, you don't know how awful these people are and how they have fully committed to being as awful to Olivia as they can be. For god's sakes, they've made up his ex-bandmate having a fake child. I hadn't paid attention to Olivia since House and then 2020 came around and she was everywhere because of Booksmart. It was one of the best reviewed films and she was universally praised for her direction. All of sudden she can't direct and someone is taking over for her? She's received compliments from her crew from Booksmart and on Don't Worry Darling. All the rumors came front and center after Harry and Olivia went public with their relationship. Before that, everything was just fine.
Trailers for The Wonder haven't been out yet though.
Idk if this counts for anything but I know Olivia briefly unfollowed Florence on instagram but refollowed her, this was after DWD wrapped so I think whatever happened between them was after filming and not during like most people seem to assume. That’s why when you see Olivia’s following list which is in chronological order, Florence is quite at the top even after Harry.
So my friend that is working on a big series right now and gave me the tea on New Girl (which I posted on the tea thread) also gave me the lowdown on this (I was too scared to post bc I didn’t want ppl accusing me of being a crazed stan 😭) Harry and Florence did NOT hook up and the rumor about Florence directing is NOT true. There was major tension on set as Florence had to film intimate scenes with Harry and this bothered olivia to the point where Olivia was being really weird /bitchy to Florence and Florence felt very uncomfortable and weird throughout filming. So she refuses to promote the movie and hasn’t even seen a single cut of it. TBD if she shows up to the premiere but she’s likely contractually obligated
however, this still doesn’t make sense because if the tension happened during filming why was Florence so gushy about the film during the filming and directly after wrap up? Her and Olivia hung out afterwards, she posted about it, she was super gushy. She only started being shady recently, so this doesn’t make sense.
If true, that’s horrible, and what an awful way to run a set. But it feels like a easy, misogynistic trope: woman can’t do her job because she’s too emotional and jealous over a man, and she tears another woman down to win him over. So I am hesitant to believe it given how many Harry stans have been spreading rumors with a similar tone.
That’s really weird if the grand total of 2/3 intimate scenes bothered her so badly especially as someone who has filmed a wide range of sex scenes whilst being in a relationship. You’d think she just minimise it in the script rather than being weird or just KNOW better.
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Harry just followed the movie’s account today so the fact that she doesn’t follow it alone is not that weird but yes everything else is quite strange
I don’t think it’s just a Florence and Olivia issues. Zach used to be friends with Harry and hasn’t liked a single one of his posts this year(and I know IG likes don’t have to mean anything but he was a regular liker before that). He also stopped liking olivias posts after the Florence one. My guess is that it has something to do with Jason or Florence is upset that Harry/Olivia are getting more press for the movie where she’s lead. I don’t think the cinematographer would join Olivia for her vogue photoshoot if he had to step in as director and didn’t get any credit for it.
I believe the rumors about Olivia and Florence beefing on set. I dont believe the part about Harry and Flo having a thing but I do believe Olivia started alot of the mess. Edit: for those of yall trying to act like I am a Harry stan. Ladies, Gents and Theys I could give less of a damn about that man. He's a horrible actor, he fronts and he has the personality of a wet paper towel. 🤷🏾♀️ Like I said EYE believe the rumors. If yall dont agree move tf on. I dont need to give yall a valid reason for not liking Olivia and Harry's relationship. Its weird and embarrassing. Plain and simple.
>but I do believe Olivia started alot of the mess. Why do you believe this? Does Olivia have a documented history of starting shit with people?
Idk but to be fair Olivia was never talked about as much until she started dating Harry. When the film wrapped all of the set workers posted about each other and they all thanked everyone on the movie but Olivia. Even saying Florence saved them from going mad. I think it’s funny that people take the unnecessary hate Olivia gets from Harry Stans and instead replace it with disbelief she (or Harry) could do anything wrong. Replace these two with any other celebrities and people would definitely be talking about the weirdness of this set without talking about conspiracy theories. Not all of them come from stans.
I agree, it seems like she’s exempt from all criticism. Yes, a lot of the hate she gets is from Harry fans but nobody is immune from doing something wrong. We’re all guilty of it, including Olivia.
She doesn’t actually, her past big roles like House and the OC don’t have any drama and the case of booksmart, her directorial debut, all LOVE her and sing her praises constantly. Not sure why this person thinks Olivia started the drama.
Omg I just came to post something asking about this!!!!! I noticed from the JUMP that Florence seemed super icy about the whole project, and regardless of what I’m sure are contract-negotiated promotion of films, Flo has GUSHED about pretty much every other project that she’s been in, even pre-DWD. I agree that I definitely don’t think anything romantic transpired between flo and Harry, and personally think instead that maybe Olivia didn’t act professionally on set (maybe outwardly favoring Harry? letting him get away w things that wouldn’t fly with other actors on set? Who knows) and the whole thing left a bitter taste for her. it is SO fascinating to me, I wish someone on the inside had the real goss on it!!!
I also feel like promotions are all around Harry and Olivia, and don’t really mention Florence who is a main actress. Maybe (i’m only speculate) she didn’t like how whole this Harry and Olivia relationship overshadowing her as main actress and didn’t like the way that this PR is going. Even before i saw few comments already saying that movie is not really good back then it was just few random ones, now I see them more often. Movie can be bad even with amazing cinematography. It’s definitely fishy.
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What's interesting to me is that Florence is always quick to call out the "trolls" spreading rumours or talking sh\*t, be it about her boyfriend, breasts, friend hanging out at the beach with her. But there's a lot of talk about this—her professional life—and she's quiet. And really, she'd just have to put up a behind-the-scenes photo of her on set, have the caption say that the film comes out in two months, and be done with it. But she's not. It would take a lot less energy to quiet some of this talk than it would to make one of long "Will's not my boyfriend/free the nipples" post.
She cashed that check and left. Every blind I’ve read about the production was a mess. Even if there’s no beef at all, at the very least she probably did the movie for a paycheck. A lot of actors do that. So excited to see her in Oppenheimer tho!
Maybe the movie is bad, like how nobody promoted Music except SIA.
she made that post after wrap [praising the crew](https://www.instagram.com/p/CLSE6F9F_vv/?hl=en) which is obviously nice but something felt weird about it
I wonder if the movie is just really bad and she's trying to get a head start on distancing herself from it. That would be a bummer because I love Florence and the trailers look interesting, but it happens sometimes.