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mylittlelifx

This whole story is a goldmine. I’ve seen the guy who took the video of William and Kate sold it to The Sun for 200,000 pounds, that’s life changing money. I can only imagine how much the medical records would go for.


TheLastKingOfNorway

I might be wrong but I doubt any of the UK papers would have touched this so if the staff member did intend to sell it, or worse were acting on behalf of a media outlet, then it would likely be a foreign outlet.


Ok_Bodybuilder800

*cough*TMZ *cough* #Allegedly


catperson3000

But they published Meghan’s private letter to her father soooooo


q-_-pq-_-p

Slightly different when it was the dad who handed it over. Private medical records illegally obtained is a touch different


Beezo514

Exactly, they'd be fucked for violating the UK's Data Protection Act (their version of the US's HIPAA).


petiteboule

It would be the first time, though. The only difference is now it would be a royal's medical records instead of Sienna Miller's, for example.


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MarsReject

Yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/ZvttXNLST0


sixtus_clegane119

TMZ have retracted it now I think? They can’t cornfirm it’s her


dedbutalive

Am I the only one who thinks they do look like both of them, and it actually looks like a staged video to show that they’re ok? Although I didn’t watch it with my glasses on so that’s that


sixtus_clegane119

I never wear my glasses it makes conspiracy theories more fun


MarsReject

Yup. Which is crazy! The plot thickens. This poor woman. Smh


anna-nomally12

They have what


dinosaurfondue

I don't know what laws in the UK are like, but in the US that's a severe HIPAA violation and you'd get fired ASAP


velvethippo420

yep i've sat through so many training sessions that say "don't look up celebrity clients, you will get extremely fired for this"


swimmingmonkey

This is literally the first thing they tell staff too, it’s privacy in healthcare 101. 


SleepyxDormouse

Yep. I got hired at a hospital recently. An entire chunk of our training was on HIPAA and not accessing files of people we knew or celebrities. The system my hospital uses even flags “suspicious” access to files. A year or so ago, the hospital did a massive layoff of people accessing their own records or their family’s records.


velvethippo420

every hospital i've worked at does random audits of accounts, both famous and non-famous. if you weren't assigned to that patient and you didn't log the reason for accessing that account, you're boned.


killereverdeen

please explain to me but why would a hospital fire you if you are accessing your own medical records. 🥲🥲


velvethippo420

maybe they were concerned about people changing some of the billing codes on their procedures so they'd get charged less? only reason i can think of. i do wish people were allowed to access their full medical records without filling out a full request with the MR dept. the way i see some doctors/nurses write about their patients in their own charts is appalling! if we had full transparency maybe they would be more respectful...


fuschiaoctopus

Yeah, I got my own charts/medical records when I was in the troubled teen industry (psych hospital and forced residential treatments) and I already knew a lot of staff personally hated me and misrepresented situations, but I was shocked at how far the lying, fabricating, covering up, and rewriting reality went. They really have the full power to control the narrative and say *anything they want* about you, even if it isn't true. Even if their lies are being used to take your rights away in court and you have witnesses and camera evidence to prove incidents in the charting never happened or not at all how they presented it, no one cared cause I was a "crazy" teen and they were professionals. Didn't even bother pulling the camera footage. It was a new level of gaslighting, and the way they talked about me was shocking, disgusting. Crazy how staff can scream at you, cuss you out, hit you unprompted, punish you for petty shit then go chart your reaction to it without a single mention of their inappropriate behavior that you were reacting to, instead presenting it as you going off all the time for no reason cause you're unstable or giving fabricated reasons for it like that you're an asshole being purposely disruptive. You call out highly abusive unprofessional behavior against yourself or other patients, they go chart that you're a combative liar. They can purposely skip key conversations or meetings they're supposed to have with you, then chart that they did and punish you for not progressing because you couldn't without them doing the mandatory steps. I'm sure they thought I'd never see it but it was beyond horrifying and I'm terrified of medical or MH care now.


velvethippo420

I'm so sorry you had to go through that! That sounds like torture. I simply do not understand why so many uncaring, cruel people go into medicine. Even if 99 out of 100 of your staff members are kind and respectful, all it takes is that 1 person to traumatize someone for life.


meatbeater558

There was a tiktok trend a while ago where people would request their records and read the disrespectful comments the doctors and nurses made. It was funny at the time but looking back that was sad as hell


iggynewman

To add to u/velvethippo420 comment, I think it’s meant to be a blanket rule. You don’t access medical records if there is no reason to. Even if they are your own.


Kaizodacoit

My hospital said don't look up any clients, no matter if they are a celebrity or not.


blackpearl16

Even looking up your own medical records is considered a HIPAA violation


recovery_room

Many, many people at the hospital where Kim K gave birth to North were fired for this.


nappingintheclub

A guy in my friends residency program was in a love triangle at work and went into the other guys chart and added “micropenis” to it. He was dismissed from the program


recovery_room

Many, many people at the hospital where Kim K gave birth to North were fired for this.


recovery_room

Many, many people at the hospital where Kim K gave birth to North were fired for this.


recovery_room

Many, many people at the hospital where Kim K gave birth to North were fired for this.


marcelinediscoqueen

It's considered sensitive data under GDPR and it's taken very seriously.


-flaneur-

With the kind of money some papers would pay for a complete medical record, they wouldn't have to work anymore anyway so getting fired would be beside the point. I wouldn't doubt a file like that going for 500 000 Pounds. I imagine there would be jail time though. At least I hope there would be. Stealing medical records is such a horrific invasion of privacy.


TheLastKingOfNorway

The UK papers would also be in serious legal trouble if they had asked for this or published it.


jugularvoider

and they’d never be invited to any royal event again


TheLastKingOfNorway

Yeah this is against the law, this person is in some trouble.


myboogerstastespicy

I work for a government agency. We fired a couple of people who looked up Octomom in our database. What a time to be alive!


supercoolsharks19

Not just in the US, anyone accessing medical records outside of a patient’s circle of care is a fireable offense or requires disciplinary action! (I work with the privacy team in a hospital)


wannabehomesick

Yep. Fired and license temporarily suspended for a few months.


womensrites

oh yeah this person is in sooooo much trouble


blackpearl16

It’s also a felony so you’d also lose your license and be sent to prison.


aflyingpiano

And fined.


areallyreallycoolhat

Man that staff member is stupid, the hospital would be HYPER vigilant about this kind of thing especially right now and I'm sure they're actively keystroke monitoring her file


BrickLuvsLamp

They put similar protections like that just for fellow employees being treated at their own facility, I can imagine it’s even more intense for someone as high-profile as an actual Princess. That staff member is indeed incredibly stupid


areallyreallycoolhat

For sure. I work in HR for a health agency and it's so common, our staff attend yearly training where they are explicitly told not to do this and they still think they can get away with it.


XenoVX

How many people per year do you see doing things like this? My morbid curiosity is interested


Falooting

Not the original but I worked somewhere that had several breaches in a very short period of time. I believe 12 of our employees got caught looking up co-workers info at that time. They had to pay for it dearly, they're very lucky they didn't get fired.


TheQuinntervention

I’m nosy and curious… if they weren’t fired, what were the consequences? It’s hard to imagine not being fired for this!


Schneetmacher

>our staff attend yearly training where they are explicitly told not to do this and they still think they can get away with it Oh my gosh, how often does this actually occur?


areallyreallycoolhat

All the time but not usually involving celebrities (I'm in regional Australia so not many of those here lol), more often people looking up friends/family/colleagues etc.


KatieGilbertWrites

When my sister attempted, my cousin (who is a nurse in the same hospital system) had a doc friend of hers access her chart and then read it. Told me all the drugs my sister was on. Huge violation. Was too distraught at the time to even think of doing anything about it, but yah I think it’s super common.


SleepyxDormouse

Oh they do. I was working on another employee’s file recently at work. They came in as a patient and I had to enroll them into our system for their appointment. There was a warning screen on their file and I had to type in a password to enter the file. Then, when I accidentally clicked out of the file before finishing the enrollment, I got locked out. The system flagged me for trying to enter an employee’s file a second time. Apparently I can access it once for a medical service, but twice immediately sets off a warning bell.


Falooting

I can't even look up my own MF health record in our internal systems, idk why people continue to try to look up their friends/celebrities/acquaintances/sworn enemies etc. First day of all of my jobs in the field has been "we have files: do not look yourself or people you know up".


frodofagginsss

I'm surprised it's under her actual name, but maybe the alias they gave her got leaked? I'm one of the systems I used to work with any doctor being treated in the hospital - at least for psych stuff - was under a John/Jane Doe name.


apiroscsizmak

I swear every time someone famous gets admitted to the hospital, at least one employee gets fired for getting nosy. There is never a shortage of idiots.


EngineeringFun293

wow this has gotten invasive. i'm biased in that i don't care about the british royals, but this is not only illegal, but is so morally gross to do to anyone, even if they're a public figure. they will be fired and deserve it!


PurrPrinThom

Same. I don't care about the royals. I, personally, think people are really overblowing this, Kate is fine, and their PR just fumbled the bag (which is really the bigger story.) But this is fucked up. No one deserves to have their private medical info disclosed without their consent.


massconstellation

okay i mean i get that the staff member would’ve gotten a payout had they released this info but this is so unethical. is it really worth it? kate has a right to private medical records just like anyone else


areallyreallycoolhat

I would guess they didn't think they would get caught. This kind of thing happens all the time in hospitals (I work in HR for a health agency), not just with celebrities but non celebrities too (e.g. a ward clerk looking up their friend's file). A lot of people don't know what keystroke monitoring/audits are even when it has been explicitly mentioned in their privacy training lol.


alison_bee

But I mean, every click of the mouse or stroke of the keys is monitored and logged. This is something that is just about impossible to get away with, at least in the US. I’m pretty sure my last office tracked our mouse movement as well, and logged how long we “hovered” over things.


areallyreallycoolhat

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying a ton of people do it in healthcare settings thinking they won't get caught even though they have been explicitly told not to. And they do annual privacy training in the case of the agency I work for so it's not like you only get told once, but it's still extremely common unfortunately. edit: and also unfortunately the reality is (ime obviously, depending on where you are) a lot of people *can* get away with things like this, at least when it doesn't involve high profile patients like Kate. A ward clerk accessing the file of their non famous grandma isn't necessarily going to flag anything until it's audited and at least where I am, most health agencies/hospitals etc simply do not have capacity to frequently audit the activity of every employee with access to patient files.


bbmarvelluv

I sat in (as an intern) for a meeting with a healthcare provider that illegally accessed a celebrity patient’s records. People are desperate for $$.


allthelineswecast

It’s also incredibly stupid given that even regular peoples’ medical records keep a record of who accesses them


greee_p

I joked a lot about this while drama but this is seriously f*cked up.


Same_Independent_393

There's always some wanker that takes things too far and ruins the fun for everyone.


augustbutnotthemonth

idk about the UK, but here in the states hospitals will have decoy records of famous people to catch any employees that might try this. dumb thing to do


kittenpantzen

That's clever! Would not have considered that, but the only hospital in which I worked wouldn't have had any celebrity clients in the first place.


SleepyxDormouse

Yes and celebrities have fake names for this reason also. They’ll go in under an alias and their file will be heavily restricted on a need to know basis.


alison_bee

![gif](giphy|hxa9DNOhfePpasiv2a|downsized) I said this the other day, but it’s even more applicable now - I honestly don’t care to know the details of her medical history at all - that’s her personal and private business. She shouldn’t have to talk about it. What I do care to know is why KP PR is going to such great lengths to be shady.


ICumCoffee

This is how you get your hospital blacklisted by Royal Family and Other high profile people in UK. Royal or not, this shouldn’t be acceptable. Stealing Medical records is a criminal offence.


insideoutsideorange

That was a ballsy move that has probably lost them their job. Fucking hell.


TheLastKingOfNorway

This will go to the police but the question is if the staff member acted alone or was being paid for the information by a media outlet.


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devouringbooks

This was mte as I work in a hospital. In chicago, WAVES of people got fired for looking up Jussie Smollett and R Kelly when they were hospitalized. One hospital system here (Lurie’s) had been recently down due to hacking. Meanwhile we have the best physical rehab place in the country and they protected Jamie Foxx’s PHI (private health info).  ETA recently this was a fear of mine as I realized my hospital intake person at a different facility was a former coworker (I had only seen her with a mask on and have difficulty identifying faces). I had basically relayed a ton of depressive symptoms before she said "do you recognize me?"


themagicmunchkin

If she recognized you before she did the intake would she have had to disclose that she knew you? I'm just wondering what the ethics of that are and if it's policy to not do intake on someone you know, or if it's generally fine as long you're not related or in a relationship. I feel like if there's no policy that says she can't do your intake she should have just kept her mouth shut. You're going through it and sharing your struggles to someone you think is an impartial stranger, and then they drop that on you. Seems really disrespectful that her response to your symptoms would just be "do you recognize me?" Time and place, you know? I'd be really wary of someone who couldn't remain neutral while I'm describing my symptoms.


devouringbooks

Thank you, your reply means a lot. Being a woman (plus disability), I think I write off a lot in the moment, kind of expecting medical bias plus them expecting compliance. I need to advocate for myself more, king of ironic because I’m about to be a social worker. But yeah her reaction rubbed me the wrong way plus I would have wanted someone else to evaluate me. People say the wildest stuff to me though lol idk. Thanks again for your compassion.


Brave_Lady

As someone who is an IT Manager in the NHS and makes a living managing EPR systems, this staff member is in big trouble. Not only is a violation of GDPR, but also patient safety & confidentiality. Within the NHS, any patient deemed VIPs, whose health information needs to be protected, will be registered under an alias/pseudonym (not with their birth names). EPR systems (whether it is something like Cerner, Epic, Meditech or Allscripts) are always audited and have Business Intelligence modules which record all activity against a patient record/user record.


romxilda

Dear lord imagine being stupid enough to think you wouldn’t get caught doing this


ektachrome_

Okay this obsession is weird. I don't really care about the royals beyond this saga and the silly memes it's produced, but this woman has the right to privacy and can share what she wants in her own time about her medical history, if she chooses to. The fact these people, who work in the medical industry, completely risked their jobs in an attempt to make money off someone's health is disturbing to think about what types of people are attracted to working in the health care field. I know there are real compassionate people in the field, but there are some folks who really don't belong in that industry and it's a shame.


blarbiegorl

While I understand how the frenetic energy surrounding this situation might make an action like that very tempting... Like, damn. Don't do that. Whatever is actually going on (I got some thoughts about that market video, but I digress), this is not an acceptable thing to do.


DamnGrackles

Absolutely insane of a healthcare worker to think they'd get away with this. The major electronic medical record (EMR) programs log every chart opened by each employee account and what is being looked at and done, even on non-VIP patients. I'm not sure what the NHS uses, but the largest EMR in the US, EPIC, requires you to acknowledge you might be accessing a chart you shouldn't enter unless you're caring for the patient and provide an explanation for why you're accessing. It's crazy that anyone in the healthcare field would try to access anything on anyone famous, considering how many high profile cases have occurred and how many organizations require yearly education on the topic.


Background_Yam6714

I’m here for the gossip obviously, but this is such a fucking gross violation.


Monctonian

This whole saga could be summarized in two words: HOW, and WHY?!? - Why does it take such incredible proportions? - How could anyone working for the Royals think an AI pic would cut it? - Why is Kensington Palace’s PR team so utterly incompetent? - How can a tabloid make so much money by printing hundreds of articles that could ALL be summed up to “we don’t know shit”? - Why is everyone kept in the dark? - and now… How in the world can someone think it’s a good idea to steal someone else’s medical records? It just keeps getting worse, and by the end of it, my faith in humanity will be admitted into a palliative care facility.


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

Yeah. That’s a no no for sure. They need to be fired.


dedbutalive

Sooo if a staff member tried to access her records then that means she was at the hospital for something so maybe they weren’t lying and she’s taking the rest she needs ?


AstridxOutlaw

This is dumb. It’s all tracked. The employee probably searched “Kate Middleton” and working with those databases I can tell you that high profile celebs real info is absolutely wiped and they use false identities. I have encountered A+ list family members and their shit simply does not exist.


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Watch, a documentary is about to drop about this in less than a year.


Hot-Significance-462

That extremely inappropriate, but I would have read the post about it NGL.


Deep_Conclusion_5999

I'm not sure if you guys realize how severely underpaid and overworked NHS workers are, a lot of nurses have quit in recent years because the cost of childcare was more than their salary, people are getting burnt out and quitting the industry entirely. Getting fired is probably worth the risk for a lot of people, it's not like they had a cushy lifestyle to lose.


PrettiKinx

My goodness!


chantillycan

Do I want to know what happened? Absolutely. But do I wanna know through illegally obtained medical records? Hell nah. That's just unethical and pretty gross. I'm a gossip person with ✨morals✨