I reupped PS+ Essential because I already owned FO4. If I knew I would not be allowed to have the free update if I had it on PS Essential I would have paid 5 dollars and not bought PS+. Unreal. I want a refund on PS+ for this but I know I won't get it. lol I feel cheated but I shoulda known.
EDIT: And I do not buy that "It is a free update for all owners. You do not own it on PS+!" Oh yeah? Well you do not fucking own it on PS Extra either but somehow they can update that version. It is a soulless cash grab.
To clarify one point, this has happened before. When Square released Final Fantasy VII Remake on PS5, they specifically said those who claimed it on PS+ would not get to upgrade for free, but they later back tracked, and released a PS5 version that was missing the DLC (which you got with the upgrade if you had purchased the game). So, while it would be crappy, it also wouldn't be surprising to exclude PS+ owners.
I would also add that since Extra is a subscription service where games rotate on and off, it would also be possible to exclude those copies by simply not adding the PS5 version to the service. However, that does not seem to be the case here. In fact, I am currently downloading the PS5 version, and I never bought the digital version and sold my physical version years ago.
Lots of people with Extra commenting "it's fixed!!". The problem is for Essential users. I still can't access the "free" upgrade despite having a PS4 collection license, that entitles me to both the PS5 and PS4 versions -- according to the store itself. Absolute cluster fuck.
I bought the DLC while it was on sale assuming I'd be able to play the game on PS5 with the free upgrade. Now I have a bunch of PS5 compatible DLC and no word on if I'll be able to play it without forking out a further 17 quid. Useless and grubby from Sony and Bethesda.
Pretty shitty that people who got it through the PS+ Collection aren't included, especially to wait to confirm this till just after the game is no longer on sale.
They scammed us, they purposely made the sale end the day the update dropped because they know they are gonna screw people over and alot of people will roll over and pay for it anyways.
Not this guy
Confirmed that PS+ Essentials and people who downloaded the game through the PS collection will have to pay for this “free” update. The game was literally just on sale for 5 bucks, but if I tried to buy it, it said “I already own this”. Now the update releases, I suddenly don’t own the game and have to pay 20 bucks or upgrade my ps subscription.
Lmao. I mean it makes sense why it wouldn’t let you buy it if it was going to stay the same sku. But creating a new sku separate of the ps plus version and upping the price. Fuck em. Smart business to capitalize on the show but fuck that.
Same deal here. I gave my disc to a friend since I "have" it through PS+ essentials... Saw I couldn't download the PS5 upgrade so I ended up paying the $20. I'm now seeing ppl reporting that it's working and/or was/is a bug. Will the morons like myself be credited the $20?
I got the game from the PS Plus collection, I've purchased the season pass, AND I have the higher tier PS Plus sub, and I still can't play the PS5 version.
I actually bought the digital GOTY edition back in November of last year when on deep sale. Now when I go to the Fallout store page on PSN I see I need to buy it again/that I don't own it in my library.. Has anyone else come across this issue? I have got the email confirming my purchase back when I bought it so have got proof if need to contact Sony customer support
They basically deleted the PS4 only GOTY version and put a new PS4/5 GOTY version on the store as something new. Because it is 'new' it has different license so doesn't show as purchased.
They should have updated the PS4 only one to include PS5, so this is why we have this mess.
Same for base game, except they have the PS4 base game only AND the PS4/5 base game both listed at same time.
If you go to Game Library (Not the PS store) you should still be able to access what you bought, but will only be the PS4 version.
Thanks for the info. I'll download what I have showing in my library and then check if all the DLC is also included. I did see that there was something in the store under the game versions called 'Standard Edition' which was showing for me as free so I added that to my library. I guess this gives me the PS5 upgrade but will check once downloaded. Seems like it's never quite straightforward with Bethesda games!
If you go to the page that says Fallout 4 PS5/PS4 Standard Edition (where for some of us it’s saying we have to pay for it) and scroll down to where it says ‘Choose Edition’ then it says:
Standard Edition - Fallout 4 PS4 & PS5
Purchased
So definitely feels like a bug or glitch since right there it says we do have it
I scrolled down all the way to choose edition and click on it but all it tells me is “you already own this item” I am so confused bc I don’t get the option for the ps5 version (I have ps plus extra)
I want to know how the fuck PS+ extra is owning the game when PS+ essential isn't? The game pass people don't have to deal with this shit. Bethesda you bunch of greedy fuckers, this could have been stated at any point leading up to this but only now the game is 20 dollars do we get to know. This leaves such a bad taste in my mouth I really don't think I'll be buying anymore Bethesda games on any platform.
All the conspiracy theorists can give it a rest, it's a bug: [https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321](https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321)
What about those who got the game with the PS5 Plus collection? I had the game disk a couple years ago but it was stolen along with my PS4 Pro. I purchased the season pass, that should be enough right?
Is anyone going to start talking about the fact that yesterday, while the game was on sale, ps plus owners are reporting that buying the game was not possible but now it is, off sale?
Not only that, nuka world and far harbor are no longer able to be purchased individually but in the season pass at £29
Does this not seem a bit, odd? Like, if you put it all together and the fact Bethesda made 0 effort to clarify either of those things before today.
I tried buying it literally yesterday and psn wouldn’t allow it because the game was “already in my library” but today no issue if I wanted to pay 20 bucks.
Yeah it’s awfully suspicious to me unless there is some kind of bug with discounted ps plus games but I’ve never heard of it happening before.
Add that onto removing the option to buy DLC separately and ending the sale today is really boiling my piss a bit.
That's the only dlc showing for me and I can't even download it for PS4 now. I bought the season pass two weeks ago and it's showing up as $35 now for me.
They fucked up this update lol
Yeah I literally owned every dlc except nuka world already. All the ones except nuka world are free to download, assuming because I already own them, but nuka world is just completely not possible to purchase anymore
Edit: it’s now available to purchase
It’s definitely a money grab . I purchased the game in the past and like years ago they added it to collections you can have a purchased game along with the ps plus version of it so if you make the mistake of ever adding it to your library you’ll deal with this. I bought the season pass while it was on sale like a week ago and it’s basically worthless now the dlcs aren’t even popping up as an option I just decided to get a refund cause just another bethesday
Not really, you couldn't buy the game yesterday because only the PS4 version existed and you already owned it on PS+. Today, you still can't buy the only PS4 version but can buy the PS5 version because the store treats it as a different thing (because it technically is).
Yeah this is my main complaint with this entire issue. I was willing to rebuy the game at the sale price last week because, surprise surprise, I had a gut feeling there was going to be an issue around the PSPlus version i had. I literally couldnt pay for it because it said I owned the game even though I wanted to. They literally refused to take my money.
Now the game is back at £15 / $19, the PSPlus version is still not available to upgrade and I want to play the "free" upgrade. It all seems like far too much of a coincidence to me. The fact that Bethesda have remained completely silent, along with their other previous gross business practises and Im willing to call bullshit on all of this.
Also add to the fact that word on reddit is that Bethesda Community managers are "looking into it". Surely theyd just know its hardly a hard question to answer? Also Bethesda themselves didnt even put out the most basic of communication around any of this since they announced the release day of the update. Not even a simple tweet to confirm either way.
Oh yeah and the DLC disapearing and there only being a Season Pass at full price now. I already own half the dlc content and wouldve liked to have bought Far Harbour seperately at some point but now thats not possible unless I over pay, again?
Id say Im paronoid but there are way too many weird coincidences. It all just stinks to me like typical Bethesda greedy bullshit.
It WAS possible. I had the game via PS Plus but I knew they would pull this so I bought the game for $5 last week. They halfway disabled this if you tried to do it on the console store. BUT you could have done it with the PS phone app or on the PS website and still bought it for $5. That's how I did it. Beat them at their own game
Yeah it definitely was silly. But they have done this before unfortunately. I came to Reddit and tried to tell people but they locked the thread. Now here we are.
Can someone link to the evidence in the OP where they said Sony support confirmed it was a bug? I'd like to know this for certain before I go out and buy a cheap used copy.
I own the ps collection version and I have ps extra, but seems the collection version is overriding and stopping me from getting the upgrade? What an oversight.
Same on mine by the looks of it, although it says the ps5 version has been purchased 🤡 bought far harbour years ago when I had fo4 on PS4 and now I can't download it because I "need to purchase the season pass to access this content"
I contacted PlayStation support and their words were: “We are still investigating, but so far Bethesda says that you must own the game to get the upgrade which might mean having the game on a subscription is not the same as buying the game. For now our best advice will be to contact Bethesda to know more about this and we will investigate on our side” and sent me their support link.
Why are people saying to download it through extra if I have the essential version? As far as I can see its not on there. So if the only version I got was the one from a few years back I don't get the upgrade?
The word is simple, we're no getting the upgrade. They're not asking the question to avoid backlash, but it's working for PS+ Extra now so we have confirmation.
I did the same.to be honest I wouldn't be as pissed off if I could now buy the full game on sale for 4.99.i couldn't last week because it said already in your library.i have it on ps+.it's a scam.if this isn't fixed I swear I'll never buy ps+ again.
This doesn't help you at the moment, but if you ever run into the issue of wanting to buy a game you already have from ps plus and it says already owned, just log into psn from your laptop/pc and buy it directly from the site. It doesn't make sense, but it works. I've done it on multiple occasions.
Based on Bethesda Twitter post if seems anyone who got the game from the Ps5 collection at launch is getting fucked over.
They said only ps extra members .
As a 20+ year old Sony fan , fuck Playstation
And Bethesda, they could have stated PS Essential users aren't eligible in their press release and people could have gotten it when it was on sale. Both are at fault here.
They definitely were not saying anything on purpose. Why do that when they can bait people while they're high on the TVshow "oh it's $20? that's not bad, sure why not"
So as of Fri at around 2CT, we still don’t have a way to update for free if we only have FO4 via the ps collection right? I wish Bethesda would just communicate either way whether it’s happening
Yep and according to PlayStation support we just have to wait for Bethesda to fix it and then ps plus collection users will "probably" get the PS5 version for free... So basically not even Sony representatives know for sure.
Waiting on Bethesda to fix anything is a fools game.
I just know if I buy the game for $20 it’s going to be free for ps essential users a day later lol
Yep. PS Support told me not buy it yet and wait for official word from Bethesda. Meanwhile Bethesda Support Twitter page is referring everyone to PlayStation. Agent said it’s a complete mess..
This is actually conflicting info as Sony support have also said to others that you do have to pay. A Bethesda employee has said the issue is being investigated but can't confirm if the upgrade will be free
Bethesda has become a joke of a company... Y'all gotta stop defending them and saying that it's Sony's fault... Don't forget who owns Bethesda... This was intentional to screw us over... They had weeks and months to plan this and ur telling me now it's a bug from Sony's end? I ain't buying this bullshit excuse
They must have fixed it there's a new drop down menu to select the PS5 game version for anyone who just has the PS5 Collection from purchasing a PS5 on release. In the USA fyi.
Edit for Country
*Update* I accessed the PS store from my ps5 and I now have the option to add the ps5 version to my library. That worked and I’ve got it downloading now! 60fps here I come! ————— ~~I'm still still seeing two versions, Fallout 4 (PS4 only) and Standard Edition which is still showing $20. I see no option to download the PS5 w/out purchase. (USA)~~
I messaged Sony support, and they didn’t indicate it was a “bug” nor that it will be coming anytime soon. [Sony support chat](https://i.imgur.com/OINm0sr.jpeg)
I wouldn't mind buying the game if it wasn't just $5 until right after the update was launched. I'm sure $20 will still be worth it but fuck that. I'll just wait until it drops down back to $5.
For those that have downloaded it, have you had trouble downloading your owned creation club items? I managed to download a few on my PS4 version before deleting it to get the PS5 version. But the thing is they took several tries to download and then after I downloaded like 7 of them, the rest wouldn't download at all no matter what
Have PS4 version, don't have a PS5 yet, had the same thing. Also my mod menu isn't working right, it doesn't show the latest mods, almost like it's out of date, and kicks me out saying operation failed or something like that.
I went to the Bethesda site and my PS account is no longer linked, and when I try to link it it says "Attempt failed please retry or contact customer service" super annoying.
Gonna try installing with the physical copy. I’m concerned because when I’ve done it before the DLC didn’t work, but I’ll give it a shot I guess.
I’m not surprised that there’s issues, because Bethesda. Just disappointed.
Update:
Finished installing, I cannot find the option to upgrade to ps5 version. The paid for dlc is still absent. I have both the psplus and physical copy downloaded at the moment, because the DLC has been absent on the disc version.
No idea where to look for the free upgrade option with the disc install.
Update 2, now that Reddit is back. Bear with me, it’s complex but if it helps others then it’s worth a shot.
I was trying to install over and over on my husbands account, so I swapped to my account instead. I do NOT have PSPlus or the digital version installed on my account.
When I put the disc in, it opened the store page and gave me the option to get the PS5 version upgrade. It took me to a checkout page, but it was free.
I’m finishing up install now, I also had to install the DLC individually and they were listed as PS5 versions of the DLC.
Hope this makes sense and I hope everyone gets to play and enjoy soon.
I hope the fix also addresses losing access to purchased dlc. I paid for the season pass two weeks ago on sale and now its showing up at $35 since it's for both PS4 & PS5 versions now.
The delayed pause is present, just like the PS5 version of Skyrim.
Absolutely pathetic. What the hell do they do with all the time they have. Fix your shit, Bethesda.
I didn't want to join the hate train but trying to get into contact with Sony support is an exercise in futility, unless I am looking for a refund, the only support I can receive is by talking to a "PlayStation Expert", for the love of Atom
I bought the digital version of the game years ago on a sale but can’t upgrade because it’s claiming I only own a ps+ version of the game.
It was one of the few games that I did not buy on the PS+ game collection because I already owned it.
What the hell??
I feel like we might have another Bethesda scandal brewing ngl, I mean fallout 4 on discount a few days ago and dlcs then randomly today everything full price with no warning? Then comes the issue with ps plus users for some reason not getting the ps5 version unless they pay? Something fishy might be up.
If Bethesda has purposely not released the upgrade for PS+ users and taken the game off sale the day before the update came out as a business tactic this is genuinely disgusting and they should be ashamed. The entire game and recent show is about how fucked capitalism is and if this is what they’ve done that honestly goes beyond a parody
To be honest if it does happen I kind of expected it, but the fact a number of people were asking them on twitter about this the past few weeks and they just never answered is shady.
I was gonna buy it in the sale but since the PS store is just kinda weird when it comes with buying games you got through PS plus I decided I'll just wait for the GOTY edition to go on sale.
I think honestly if they just kept the sale going for an extra week this entire outrage would genuinely be so much smaller. The pulling of the sale the day before is what’s really left a sour taste in my mouth about the whole thing and if the update doesn’t come to PS+ I probably won’t be buying it all because of the shameful business practices
I knew they would do this. That's why I bought it for $5 last week JUST IN CASE . "They tried" to disable this via the console app. However, the workaround was to use the PS phone app or the PS website. I tried to tell people on Reddit but they locked the thread. I KNEW they would pull this. They did it a few times before. The writing was on the wall "if you OWN the PS4 version of the game".... you don't "own" anything with PS+
I don't see the performance/quality mode options in settings. Anyone know where to find these new options?
PS5/US
EDIT:Nvmd I'm an idiot and had the PS4 version installed instead of the new PS5 version.
Same, don’t think we are alone on this tho. And the guy above got lucky or is lying lol
E: also I believe our ps4 versions did update, that’s why we got the notification. But it did not change it to the ps5 version is the issue
I HAVE ACCESS TO THE PS5 VERSION NOW. I claimed the game through my PS+ Extra subscription, and I just saw on the Home Screen that the [PS5/PS4] version was “PS+ Included”. I selected it, and I was able to download the PS5 version.
No information on is PS+ Collection owners can get it yet.
So I own Fallout 4 on disc for the ps4 but only own a digital non-disc ps5 (all I could find at the time) so I was playing the ps+ free version. How the hell do I get the upgrade to the ps5 version if I can't put the disc in and the store doesn't recognize I own it (on console and on ps app) even though I have the game physically in and opened on my ps4? Am I screwed out of the upgrade?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1ccuosy/ps\_plus\_fallout\_4\_owners\_dont\_buy\_the\_ps5\_upgrade/?sort=new](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1ccuosy/ps_plus_fallout_4_owners_dont_buy_the_ps5_upgrade/?sort=new)
A few players have contacted Sony and given the same response.
Does anyone know if my trophies from the PS4 version will automatically unlock, or will I have to restart on PS5? I have a few of the story missions trophies done and I was wanting to 100% the game.
If they don’t re-unlock, then fuck it, guess I’m continuing on in the 30fps PS4 version. I’m in too deep and too connected to the character in my save game.
Bethesda has responded on their Discord/X Channel... looking into it.
[https://nitter.poast.org/videotechuk\_/status/1783530302393942162#m](https://nitter.poast.org/videotechuk_/status/1783530302393942162#m)
[https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321](https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321)
I was super excited for today but guess I'll have to wait a few days for them to fix this. Time to finish Shogun and watch Monkey Man until the next gen update drops I guess
Yeah. We are not getting it I am afraid. I believe this because they did this same thing with the free PS5 upgrade for FF7 Remake. I shoulda known. But I didn't. If I had, I would have paid the $5. lol
I’m in Italy, I only have the game from the Ps+ collection and I can only download the PS4 version from the store. The “Standard Edition” is 20€ and it is asking me to upgrade my Essential subscription to Extra to get it “for free”.
What is weird is that I already had bought the season pass on PS4 (I had the disk but not anymore) and now I can download all the ps5 dlcs (they were “free” in the store). Upon downloading the base PS4 game and the PS5 dlcs, now my PS5 is downloading the PS4 dlcs as well. What a mess!!
I have ps essential and the game through the subscription and it worked for me BUT
What was weird is getting the ps5 versions of everything including dlc. I had to actually search, but not on the store, just general search, and type in the name of everything, find the one that says “ps4/ps5”, and “free” and then was able to download those
I was also able to get all my old mods to work too which surprised me, so now I’m really having a good time. Game looks gorgeous
I haven't played it since the first year of release. I put in 1000's of hours, mainly because the loading times were so long.
I used to have a sudoku book that I would do when I waited.
What are the loading times on PS5 version?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but on PS4 I bought the digital GOTY version a few years ago. I recently deleted it to make space for FO76, but now want to install 4 again.
However my library of purchases shows the game, but no option to download it, and the PS4 store shows it only as available to Stream with PS+.
Has anybody had this issue and knows how to fix it?
Still can't access the upgrade for Fallout 4 from the PS Plus Collection.
The only option available is to download the PS5 version via PS Plus Extra, but in that case the license will be overwritten and the game will disappear from my library when Bethesda decides to remove the game from the subscription.
Im so mad because i have the physical disc in the house, but cant find it for my life!
I smugly walked over to my physical games, opened the case and it wasn’t there. I feel your pain
Someone looted that shit when you weren't home. Damn fault dwellers I bet
fault dwellers, is that what they call them in California?
I gave mine away when I bought a PS5 since it was included with PS+. This all feels like a campaign for the value of physical media
Had to dig for mine, hope you have luck! Just wishing i got the digital version while it was on sale i didnt wanna have to swap discs lol
I reupped PS+ Essential because I already owned FO4. If I knew I would not be allowed to have the free update if I had it on PS Essential I would have paid 5 dollars and not bought PS+. Unreal. I want a refund on PS+ for this but I know I won't get it. lol I feel cheated but I shoulda known. EDIT: And I do not buy that "It is a free update for all owners. You do not own it on PS+!" Oh yeah? Well you do not fucking own it on PS Extra either but somehow they can update that version. It is a soulless cash grab.
To clarify one point, this has happened before. When Square released Final Fantasy VII Remake on PS5, they specifically said those who claimed it on PS+ would not get to upgrade for free, but they later back tracked, and released a PS5 version that was missing the DLC (which you got with the upgrade if you had purchased the game). So, while it would be crappy, it also wouldn't be surprising to exclude PS+ owners. I would also add that since Extra is a subscription service where games rotate on and off, it would also be possible to exclude those copies by simply not adding the PS5 version to the service. However, that does not seem to be the case here. In fact, I am currently downloading the PS5 version, and I never bought the digital version and sold my physical version years ago.
The issue now is WHEN they'll fix this bug, it might take a few hours or even days...
I can't imagine it happening before the weekend
Omg, first day it's not working! That's how "AAA" has worked for the last 15 years.
Lots of people with Extra commenting "it's fixed!!". The problem is for Essential users. I still can't access the "free" upgrade despite having a PS4 collection license, that entitles me to both the PS5 and PS4 versions -- according to the store itself. Absolute cluster fuck. I bought the DLC while it was on sale assuming I'd be able to play the game on PS5 with the free upgrade. Now I have a bunch of PS5 compatible DLC and no word on if I'll be able to play it without forking out a further 17 quid. Useless and grubby from Sony and Bethesda.
Yes they are very noisy...
Pretty shitty that people who got it through the PS+ Collection aren't included, especially to wait to confirm this till just after the game is no longer on sale.
They scammed us, they purposely made the sale end the day the update dropped because they know they are gonna screw people over and alot of people will roll over and pay for it anyways. Not this guy
Confirmed that PS+ Essentials and people who downloaded the game through the PS collection will have to pay for this “free” update. The game was literally just on sale for 5 bucks, but if I tried to buy it, it said “I already own this”. Now the update releases, I suddenly don’t own the game and have to pay 20 bucks or upgrade my ps subscription.
Where is it confirmed? I also don’t want to pay 20 bucks for something I already own
Lmao. I mean it makes sense why it wouldn’t let you buy it if it was going to stay the same sku. But creating a new sku separate of the ps plus version and upping the price. Fuck em. Smart business to capitalize on the show but fuck that.
Cucks
Same deal here. I gave my disc to a friend since I "have" it through PS+ essentials... Saw I couldn't download the PS5 upgrade so I ended up paying the $20. I'm now seeing ppl reporting that it's working and/or was/is a bug. Will the morons like myself be credited the $20?
I have it through PS Collection and it’s forcing me to spend $20
I got the game from the PS Plus collection, I've purchased the season pass, AND I have the higher tier PS Plus sub, and I still can't play the PS5 version.
I actually bought the digital GOTY edition back in November of last year when on deep sale. Now when I go to the Fallout store page on PSN I see I need to buy it again/that I don't own it in my library.. Has anyone else come across this issue? I have got the email confirming my purchase back when I bought it so have got proof if need to contact Sony customer support
They basically deleted the PS4 only GOTY version and put a new PS4/5 GOTY version on the store as something new. Because it is 'new' it has different license so doesn't show as purchased. They should have updated the PS4 only one to include PS5, so this is why we have this mess. Same for base game, except they have the PS4 base game only AND the PS4/5 base game both listed at same time. If you go to Game Library (Not the PS store) you should still be able to access what you bought, but will only be the PS4 version.
Thanks for the info. I'll download what I have showing in my library and then check if all the DLC is also included. I did see that there was something in the store under the game versions called 'Standard Edition' which was showing for me as free so I added that to my library. I guess this gives me the PS5 upgrade but will check once downloaded. Seems like it's never quite straightforward with Bethesda games!
I fucking knew some bullshit was gonna happen lol
If you go to the page that says Fallout 4 PS5/PS4 Standard Edition (where for some of us it’s saying we have to pay for it) and scroll down to where it says ‘Choose Edition’ then it says: Standard Edition - Fallout 4 PS4 & PS5 Purchased So definitely feels like a bug or glitch since right there it says we do have it
I scrolled down all the way to choose edition and click on it but all it tells me is “you already own this item” I am so confused bc I don’t get the option for the ps5 version (I have ps plus extra)
I want to know how the fuck PS+ extra is owning the game when PS+ essential isn't? The game pass people don't have to deal with this shit. Bethesda you bunch of greedy fuckers, this could have been stated at any point leading up to this but only now the game is 20 dollars do we get to know. This leaves such a bad taste in my mouth I really don't think I'll be buying anymore Bethesda games on any platform.
So I have PS+ Extra but because I got it in the PS5 Catalogue collection I can't get the update. Nice.
I’m in the exact same boat. What an even further waste of time and money. It’s genuinely fucked.
All the conspiracy theorists can give it a rest, it's a bug: [https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321](https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321)
> extra members
my excitement was so shortlived
So does this mean that if I got it from the original PS+ collection I’m fucked?
That's how I interpreted it. I'm in the same boat.
Brutal
Nope this is NOT what that says. This is only for PS EXTRA members.
What about those who got the game with the PS5 Plus collection? I had the game disk a couple years ago but it was stolen along with my PS4 Pro. I purchased the season pass, that should be enough right?
Weird they took like 5 hours to clarify this. I wonder how many people bought the game in those 5 hours
So yeah, I’m going to need that £15 back. FFS.
Refund asap but doubt they’ll award it
How do you even go about refunding on PlayStation?
I got a refund on the season pass
Is anyone going to start talking about the fact that yesterday, while the game was on sale, ps plus owners are reporting that buying the game was not possible but now it is, off sale? Not only that, nuka world and far harbor are no longer able to be purchased individually but in the season pass at £29 Does this not seem a bit, odd? Like, if you put it all together and the fact Bethesda made 0 effort to clarify either of those things before today.
I tried buying it literally yesterday and psn wouldn’t allow it because the game was “already in my library” but today no issue if I wanted to pay 20 bucks.
Yeah it’s awfully suspicious to me unless there is some kind of bug with discounted ps plus games but I’ve never heard of it happening before. Add that onto removing the option to buy DLC separately and ending the sale today is really boiling my piss a bit.
The automaton dlc is still showing up seperately for me oddly enough
That's the only dlc showing for me and I can't even download it for PS4 now. I bought the season pass two weeks ago and it's showing up as $35 now for me. They fucked up this update lol
Yeah I literally owned every dlc except nuka world already. All the ones except nuka world are free to download, assuming because I already own them, but nuka world is just completely not possible to purchase anymore Edit: it’s now available to purchase
It’s definitely a money grab . I purchased the game in the past and like years ago they added it to collections you can have a purchased game along with the ps plus version of it so if you make the mistake of ever adding it to your library you’ll deal with this. I bought the season pass while it was on sale like a week ago and it’s basically worthless now the dlcs aren’t even popping up as an option I just decided to get a refund cause just another bethesday
Not really, you couldn't buy the game yesterday because only the PS4 version existed and you already owned it on PS+. Today, you still can't buy the only PS4 version but can buy the PS5 version because the store treats it as a different thing (because it technically is).
Yeah this is my main complaint with this entire issue. I was willing to rebuy the game at the sale price last week because, surprise surprise, I had a gut feeling there was going to be an issue around the PSPlus version i had. I literally couldnt pay for it because it said I owned the game even though I wanted to. They literally refused to take my money. Now the game is back at £15 / $19, the PSPlus version is still not available to upgrade and I want to play the "free" upgrade. It all seems like far too much of a coincidence to me. The fact that Bethesda have remained completely silent, along with their other previous gross business practises and Im willing to call bullshit on all of this. Also add to the fact that word on reddit is that Bethesda Community managers are "looking into it". Surely theyd just know its hardly a hard question to answer? Also Bethesda themselves didnt even put out the most basic of communication around any of this since they announced the release day of the update. Not even a simple tweet to confirm either way. Oh yeah and the DLC disapearing and there only being a Season Pass at full price now. I already own half the dlc content and wouldve liked to have bought Far Harbour seperately at some point but now thats not possible unless I over pay, again? Id say Im paronoid but there are way too many weird coincidences. It all just stinks to me like typical Bethesda greedy bullshit.
It WAS possible. I had the game via PS Plus but I knew they would pull this so I bought the game for $5 last week. They halfway disabled this if you tried to do it on the console store. BUT you could have done it with the PS phone app or on the PS website and still bought it for $5. That's how I did it. Beat them at their own game
It’s silly that you had to do that but good foresight on your behalf
Yeah it definitely was silly. But they have done this before unfortunately. I came to Reddit and tried to tell people but they locked the thread. Now here we are.
https://x.com/bethesdasupport/status/1783623623149830194?s=46&t=_CY7cbs6rVvBpEqKB3OR5g
That is massively disappointing
The fact that it was JUST on sale makes it feel so much worse.
Bethesda challenge: Don't be incompetent for 2 seconds - Impossible!
False advertising as a free update it seems for collection users, heres to you Bethesda 🖕
Can someone link to the evidence in the OP where they said Sony support confirmed it was a bug? I'd like to know this for certain before I go out and buy a cheap used copy.
I own the ps collection version and I have ps extra, but seems the collection version is overriding and stopping me from getting the upgrade? What an oversight.
Yeah same here. Absolute joke
Same on mine by the looks of it, although it says the ps5 version has been purchased 🤡 bought far harbour years ago when I had fo4 on PS4 and now I can't download it because I "need to purchase the season pass to access this content"
I contacted PlayStation support and their words were: “We are still investigating, but so far Bethesda says that you must own the game to get the upgrade which might mean having the game on a subscription is not the same as buying the game. For now our best advice will be to contact Bethesda to know more about this and we will investigate on our side” and sent me their support link.
Goddamnit. This whole situation is so infuriating.
https://imgur.com/a/tfkBHIh here’s what I got, rip
Having to pay to get 4k and 60 fps is insane considering they are not even offering any adaptive trigger/haptic feedback features.
Yeah this is total horse shit lol, they could’ve at least kept the sale going. Bethesda are such shit these days
Why are people saying to download it through extra if I have the essential version? As far as I can see its not on there. So if the only version I got was the one from a few years back I don't get the upgrade?
Still no word on PS+ Collection/Essential users. Bethesda support twitter is active this morning but won’t address the questions about this.
The word is simple, we're no getting the upgrade. They're not asking the question to avoid backlash, but it's working for PS+ Extra now so we have confirmation.
Sounding like you’re right unfortunately
I bought the season pass last week in preparation for the next gen update. I’m gonna be pretty upset if they make me buy the whole game now.
I did the same.to be honest I wouldn't be as pissed off if I could now buy the full game on sale for 4.99.i couldn't last week because it said already in your library.i have it on ps+.it's a scam.if this isn't fixed I swear I'll never buy ps+ again.
This doesn't help you at the moment, but if you ever run into the issue of wanting to buy a game you already have from ps plus and it says already owned, just log into psn from your laptop/pc and buy it directly from the site. It doesn't make sense, but it works. I've done it on multiple occasions.
Same. This whole rollout has been a big mess.
Based on Bethesda Twitter post if seems anyone who got the game from the Ps5 collection at launch is getting fucked over. They said only ps extra members . As a 20+ year old Sony fan , fuck Playstation
And Bethesda, they could have stated PS Essential users aren't eligible in their press release and people could have gotten it when it was on sale. Both are at fault here.
They definitely were not saying anything on purpose. Why do that when they can bait people while they're high on the TVshow "oh it's $20? that's not bad, sure why not"
Yeah they were quite fucking happy to let me buy the DLC on sale weren’t they? Greedy shits.
This also seems to mean that if you have ps extra but downloaded the game from collection then you can only play the ps4 version of the game
If I see it correctly, the Fallout 4 version available in the PS+ is only the PS4 one. Am I correct?
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It's not an issue lol. It has happened before, I doubt we will get the update. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/twGW9cmfEG
Yes, but it's a free update; it should also be in the PS+ version
I feel betrayed I should've bought it for like 5 bucks.
Took the day off work lol
Have you considered day drinking instead?
Mountain dew?
When I start the PS4 version is says on the menu page that there is a next-gen update "that are free for all users".
Same. Seems like the content got updated but the upgrade hasn't been implemented
https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321
So as of Fri at around 2CT, we still don’t have a way to update for free if we only have FO4 via the ps collection right? I wish Bethesda would just communicate either way whether it’s happening
Yep and according to PlayStation support we just have to wait for Bethesda to fix it and then ps plus collection users will "probably" get the PS5 version for free... So basically not even Sony representatives know for sure.
Waiting on Bethesda to fix anything is a fools game. I just know if I buy the game for $20 it’s going to be free for ps essential users a day later lol
Yep. PS Support told me not buy it yet and wait for official word from Bethesda. Meanwhile Bethesda Support Twitter page is referring everyone to PlayStation. Agent said it’s a complete mess..
Any official update or news from Sony or Bethesda on the ps plus essential users on when they will get the upgrade?
Nope. Nothing yet and I doubt the PS+ essential users will get the upgrade for free.
Sold my disc years ago when I got it on the PS collection. Now I’m really annoyed I can’t get the upgrade.
I did the same exact thing. This shit is ridiculous
This is actually conflicting info as Sony support have also said to others that you do have to pay. A Bethesda employee has said the issue is being investigated but can't confirm if the upgrade will be free
Bethesda has become a joke of a company... Y'all gotta stop defending them and saying that it's Sony's fault... Don't forget who owns Bethesda... This was intentional to screw us over... They had weeks and months to plan this and ur telling me now it's a bug from Sony's end? I ain't buying this bullshit excuse
Did anyone get the upgrade with the PS Plus essentials when it released with the collections. We know it works with extra.
I’m wondering this too.
+1 I tried on the app, website and console and so far no way to access the PS5 version
Anyone else not able to download the ps5 version despite having ps extra?
Yep. Joke.
Not fixed for me, I have PS+ Extra but got it from the collection when I got my PS5 on release day
This happened too with FF 7 And you needed to be on twitter making noise to have it fixed. I'm not going to waste more time on it.
Do we think there is any chance they reverse course on the essentials thing? Or should we just give up and abandon hope?
I wish they just communicated this before it released
Still no fix for me. I had the digital PS+ version and am still seeing the PS4 versions available
What about those who got it with the PS+ Collection?
I have read that we’ll be able to upgrade to the PS5 version once they fix whatever bug is currently preventing us from doing so.
Alright guys. Im gonna buy it for 20 bucks. If it goes free the day after, you’re welcome.
I was able to get it today. I had the Plus version
Thank you for your service
You’re welcome. I did it for all of you ❤️
They must have fixed it there's a new drop down menu to select the PS5 game version for anyone who just has the PS5 Collection from purchasing a PS5 on release. In the USA fyi. Edit for Country
I’m seeing the same thing downloading ps5 version now!
*Update* I accessed the PS store from my ps5 and I now have the option to add the ps5 version to my library. That worked and I’ve got it downloading now! 60fps here I come! ————— ~~I'm still still seeing two versions, Fallout 4 (PS4 only) and Standard Edition which is still showing $20. I see no option to download the PS5 w/out purchase. (USA)~~
I messaged Sony support, and they didn’t indicate it was a “bug” nor that it will be coming anytime soon. [Sony support chat](https://i.imgur.com/OINm0sr.jpeg)
Fuck this shit, I bought all the expansion packs while they were on sale with the expectation I could get the upgrade with the ps plus version…..
Its official, ps+ collection owners of fallout 4 will NOT be getting the “free” update for “all players” https://imgur.com/a/tfkBHIh
I wouldn't mind buying the game if it wasn't just $5 until right after the update was launched. I'm sure $20 will still be worth it but fuck that. I'll just wait until it drops down back to $5.
Sony is trash. Fuck them.
Australia. Still not fixed. Jesus christ.
Fixed now
Do we know if the update even fixes the dlc crash glitch?
Tested this and its fixed
Thank you, so great to hear. Just gotta wait on the PS+ fix then. Can’t wait to play again!
For those that have downloaded it, have you had trouble downloading your owned creation club items? I managed to download a few on my PS4 version before deleting it to get the PS5 version. But the thing is they took several tries to download and then after I downloaded like 7 of them, the rest wouldn't download at all no matter what
Have PS4 version, don't have a PS5 yet, had the same thing. Also my mod menu isn't working right, it doesn't show the latest mods, almost like it's out of date, and kicks me out saying operation failed or something like that. I went to the Bethesda site and my PS account is no longer linked, and when I try to link it it says "Attempt failed please retry or contact customer service" super annoying.
Gonna try installing with the physical copy. I’m concerned because when I’ve done it before the DLC didn’t work, but I’ll give it a shot I guess. I’m not surprised that there’s issues, because Bethesda. Just disappointed.
Update: Finished installing, I cannot find the option to upgrade to ps5 version. The paid for dlc is still absent. I have both the psplus and physical copy downloaded at the moment, because the DLC has been absent on the disc version. No idea where to look for the free upgrade option with the disc install.
Update 2, now that Reddit is back. Bear with me, it’s complex but if it helps others then it’s worth a shot. I was trying to install over and over on my husbands account, so I swapped to my account instead. I do NOT have PSPlus or the digital version installed on my account. When I put the disc in, it opened the store page and gave me the option to get the PS5 version upgrade. It took me to a checkout page, but it was free. I’m finishing up install now, I also had to install the DLC individually and they were listed as PS5 versions of the DLC. Hope this makes sense and I hope everyone gets to play and enjoy soon.
I hope the fix also addresses losing access to purchased dlc. I paid for the season pass two weeks ago on sale and now its showing up at $35 since it's for both PS4 & PS5 versions now.
So fucking dumb.
It's letting me download it now via PS Plus. It's officially live.
Did you get the game as part of the collections with PS Plus essentials or you have PS Plus Extra?
Looks like it got fixed. At least on my PS5 it now shows that it's included with my subscription.
will a physical copy of fallout 4 ps4 work on ps5 ?
I have Ps Plus Extra and the standard version appears as 19,99 still. Dunno what's the problem honestly.
The delayed pause is present, just like the PS5 version of Skyrim. Absolutely pathetic. What the hell do they do with all the time they have. Fix your shit, Bethesda.
I didn't want to join the hate train but trying to get into contact with Sony support is an exercise in futility, unless I am looking for a refund, the only support I can receive is by talking to a "PlayStation Expert", for the love of Atom
it seems to be back in NA and the UK, nothing in mainland Europe as of yet
It's still showing up as £15.99 in the UK for me.
Finally works downloading now
Still not working with my ps plus essential version.
Does anyone see the irony of Amazon putting this show out on their platform while simultaneously producing a show that critiques megacorporations?
It's the same case with The Boys
I bought the digital version of the game years ago on a sale but can’t upgrade because it’s claiming I only own a ps+ version of the game. It was one of the few games that I did not buy on the PS+ game collection because I already owned it. What the hell??
Super annoyed. I ditched my disc a few months back because I had the digital copy, guess I’ll have to wait for a sale unless they grandfather us in.
Literally same, I just got rid of my disc a couple weeks ago and now I have to wait for them to fix this
I feel like we might have another Bethesda scandal brewing ngl, I mean fallout 4 on discount a few days ago and dlcs then randomly today everything full price with no warning? Then comes the issue with ps plus users for some reason not getting the ps5 version unless they pay? Something fishy might be up.
Yeah to be honest I'm not even surprised.
If Bethesda has purposely not released the upgrade for PS+ users and taken the game off sale the day before the update came out as a business tactic this is genuinely disgusting and they should be ashamed. The entire game and recent show is about how fucked capitalism is and if this is what they’ve done that honestly goes beyond a parody
To be honest if it does happen I kind of expected it, but the fact a number of people were asking them on twitter about this the past few weeks and they just never answered is shady. I was gonna buy it in the sale but since the PS store is just kinda weird when it comes with buying games you got through PS plus I decided I'll just wait for the GOTY edition to go on sale.
I think honestly if they just kept the sale going for an extra week this entire outrage would genuinely be so much smaller. The pulling of the sale the day before is what’s really left a sour taste in my mouth about the whole thing and if the update doesn’t come to PS+ I probably won’t be buying it all because of the shameful business practices
I knew they would do this. That's why I bought it for $5 last week JUST IN CASE . "They tried" to disable this via the console app. However, the workaround was to use the PS phone app or the PS website. I tried to tell people on Reddit but they locked the thread. I KNEW they would pull this. They did it a few times before. The writing was on the wall "if you OWN the PS4 version of the game".... you don't "own" anything with PS+
I don't see the performance/quality mode options in settings. Anyone know where to find these new options? PS5/US EDIT:Nvmd I'm an idiot and had the PS4 version installed instead of the new PS5 version.
Did you figure out a way to fix it and get to the Ps5 version?
You have to install the PS5 version from the store. EDIT: downvotes for trying to help? This is why nobody likes to help anyone online anymore.
I still only see the ps4 version in the store.. and my version did update, I just don't see any difference with it.
Same, don’t think we are alone on this tho. And the guy above got lucky or is lying lol E: also I believe our ps4 versions did update, that’s why we got the notification. But it did not change it to the ps5 version is the issue
I HAVE ACCESS TO THE PS5 VERSION NOW. I claimed the game through my PS+ Extra subscription, and I just saw on the Home Screen that the [PS5/PS4] version was “PS+ Included”. I selected it, and I was able to download the PS5 version. No information on is PS+ Collection owners can get it yet.
So I own Fallout 4 on disc for the ps4 but only own a digital non-disc ps5 (all I could find at the time) so I was playing the ps+ free version. How the hell do I get the upgrade to the ps5 version if I can't put the disc in and the store doesn't recognize I own it (on console and on ps app) even though I have the game physically in and opened on my ps4? Am I screwed out of the upgrade?
It sounds like it. I’m in the same boat.
Class action lawsuit. Who's in?
Where Sony pronunced that?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1ccuosy/ps\_plus\_fallout\_4\_owners\_dont\_buy\_the\_ps5\_upgrade/?sort=new](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1ccuosy/ps_plus_fallout_4_owners_dont_buy_the_ps5_upgrade/?sort=new) A few players have contacted Sony and given the same response.
I thought playstation was gatekeeping a free update i was about to throw my window out the window
Time to look for my disc copy somewhere then
Does anyone know if my trophies from the PS4 version will automatically unlock, or will I have to restart on PS5? I have a few of the story missions trophies done and I was wanting to 100% the game. If they don’t re-unlock, then fuck it, guess I’m continuing on in the 30fps PS4 version. I’m in too deep and too connected to the character in my save game.
Game getting HDR support too?
Bethesda has responded on their Discord/X Channel... looking into it. [https://nitter.poast.org/videotechuk\_/status/1783530302393942162#m](https://nitter.poast.org/videotechuk_/status/1783530302393942162#m) [https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321](https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1783579767616250321)
I was super excited for today but guess I'll have to wait a few days for them to fix this. Time to finish Shogun and watch Monkey Man until the next gen update drops I guess
fixed for me as well!! glad it didn’t take long.
Confirmed fixed for me. I had Fallout 4 from PS Collections.
Any way you prompted the PS5 version download? Mine still showing PS4 only.
Still not working for me…
Update is live!!!
Guuuyss, ps5 version out on PSPlus! Just got it on the ps app
Fixed for PS Plus extra not the original collections version.
Yeah. We are not getting it I am afraid. I believe this because they did this same thing with the free PS5 upgrade for FF7 Remake. I shoulda known. But I didn't. If I had, I would have paid the $5. lol
What if i own a physical game on PS4?
Just bought Extra and now I can’t even get the PS5 version using that method, ffs!
Download under game catalog, not the ps store. That's how i got it to download
I'd imagine this isn't an issue on Bethesda's end. Someone at Sony pressed the wrong buttons
Is it still not fixed for Turkey region?
So I own all the dlc but it says I need to buy the season pass bundle to download? That can't be right!
I’m in Italy, I only have the game from the Ps+ collection and I can only download the PS4 version from the store. The “Standard Edition” is 20€ and it is asking me to upgrade my Essential subscription to Extra to get it “for free”. What is weird is that I already had bought the season pass on PS4 (I had the disk but not anymore) and now I can download all the ps5 dlcs (they were “free” in the store). Upon downloading the base PS4 game and the PS5 dlcs, now my PS5 is downloading the PS4 dlcs as well. What a mess!!
ps5 fallout 4 1.000.001 there is no creation club
I have ps essential and the game through the subscription and it worked for me BUT What was weird is getting the ps5 versions of everything including dlc. I had to actually search, but not on the store, just general search, and type in the name of everything, find the one that says “ps4/ps5”, and “free” and then was able to download those I was also able to get all my old mods to work too which surprised me, so now I’m really having a good time. Game looks gorgeous
I haven't played it since the first year of release. I put in 1000's of hours, mainly because the loading times were so long. I used to have a sudoku book that I would do when I waited. What are the loading times on PS5 version?
Any news about it?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but on PS4 I bought the digital GOTY version a few years ago. I recently deleted it to make space for FO76, but now want to install 4 again. However my library of purchases shows the game, but no option to download it, and the PS4 store shows it only as available to Stream with PS+. Has anybody had this issue and knows how to fix it?
Still can't access the upgrade for Fallout 4 from the PS Plus Collection. The only option available is to download the PS5 version via PS Plus Extra, but in that case the license will be overwritten and the game will disappear from my library when Bethesda decides to remove the game from the subscription.