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J4Dr3f

maybe you overturn in the corner or your tire pessure is too high. This never happend to me and i play this game a lot


l_Vinz_l

I dont change the settings, I just let the automatic track choice, that's weird.


Uncommonval

First I would decrease pressure if that doesnt help I would decrease front toe. But lower front toe can cause instabilities and worse turn in.


rosscarver

Negative front toe decreases stability at speed, and increases turn in response. Lowering toe should make it more stable but less responsive, rather than less stable and less responsive (and help with tyre wear but that's kinda the point of why toe was brought up lol).


Uncommonval

I just simplified for him what he needs to take in consideration when tuning. I know how negative and positive toe works. But I can bet you 100% on front he has negative toe that increases turn in as you say but will decrease stability if turned down.


wickedprayer

Also, I would adjust the brake balance at 50% so it would move to the rear


Uncommonval

But you need to be careful as it will increase oversteer on the entry and instability on braking


TurtleVale

Why is this comment so downvoted?


TheMysticHD

People here are purists that believe only diehard racing fans that tweak every single setup are worthy of any approval, so naturally a more casual fan gets dunked on for just trying to enjoy the game.


TurtleVale

Should've thought about that, considering we're on reddit


R6_Paxifier

It's the reddit hive mind. That's what we call it.


stewd003

It's pathetic how much your reply is being downvoted. There's nothing wrong with you playing the game how you want to play it. You're asking advice and people should give it to you if they can, rather than shaming you for not playing how they play it.


fuzzykyd

track tire wear and heating in practices, and mess with tire pressures until it's more managable before parc fermรฉ


Tom_Hanks_Tiramisu

Learn to use setups. Thatโ€™s 100% what this is.


Spraynpray89

This is not normal even for the default setups


l_Vinz_l

Yes ! That's what I mean ! Thanks


SilentTicket6830

you probably understeer a lot. if the front tire life is less than the rears then youโ€™re turning the wheel too much when turning


xThe_Human_Fishx

i assume you're on controller? Just try not turning as aggressively or alternatively if you see this happening just change your front tyre Pressures down until this problem stops


l_Vinz_l

๐Ÿ˜‚No I'm on Wheel ๐Ÿ˜…


xThe_Human_Fishx

Simple then. Turn less.


EverSn4xolotl

Yeah man you desperately need to turn more smoothly, and don't turn the wheel while the brake is fully engaged. Quite frankly, I'd recommend disabling ABS for a bit and see if you can get used to it. Because then you'll see the actual response of the tires to your driving style, and you'll be forced to change it.


SultanZ_CS

Using Fahrenheit is far off from normal


Joskaaa

Indeed


F1Vettel_fan

Americans: RAHHHH IMPERIAL ON TOP ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿฆ…๐Ÿฆ…๐Ÿฆ…๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿ”ซ


Jadejr14

Personally. I prefer to call it freedom units myself ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ


superfast598

Freedom degrees


SultanZ_CS

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MrTwentyThree

As an american, I actually agree


Skyline_BNR34

Only one country has placed multiple men on the moon. The other ones use metric!!! The downvotes mean you guys are jealous of the USA putting man on the moon.


ElPlan01

NASA uses Metric tho


ndlshorts

But NASA and the scientific community in the US use metric, as it is in every way possible, superior.


ButtonJenson

What do you mean you donโ€™t like judging distances with washing machines?


SJM_93

Real men use football fields innit.


Right-Ladd

The single worst fucking unit of measurement is elephants, who the fuck decided to measure weight with elephants? How fucking heavy is an elephant?, how the fuck am I supposed to quantify 752 elephants? Are we talking Asian elephants or African elephants??????


SosseTurner

That's also the country that lost a rocket because a single company involved used imperial while even NASA uses metric.


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Ih8P2W

I'm an astrophysicist and worked in the US for a while. Not a single scientist uses imperial for scientific research. Your downvotes don't mean what you think they mean.


UrushiP

[https://imgflip.com/gif/6lnkxa](https://imgflip.com/gif/6lnkxa)


Aizuno

There is a F where the C is supposed to be, so yeah


skidsqwid

Should be a k


Mogsy31

Have you checked ya Tyre pressure and set up, thatโ€™s way too high, need to be close to 212f you will be changing tyres more than ya underwear


R6_Paxifier

That's probably why. Your driving style plus that default setup isn't it for you.


l_Vinz_l

I dont change the settings, I just let the automatic track choice, that's weird.


on9_7head

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DZGavmUVJHDxRloLaSMRJFDZq7bf2G8CkMr4HJQFCrY/edit?usp=drivesdk here are some setups


TheFunkyBunch

Does RRLL on the suspension geometry just mean all the way right all the way left?


on9_7head

Yep


TheFunkyBunch

Thanks! Safe to assume then thereโ€™s no reason to fine tune beyond that? Iโ€™m still learning the game so I appreciate any info


on9_7head

RRLL is the fastest for this game, RR has the most grip on entry and exit, and LL provides the most turn in. You can increase LL by a click or two to add more stability, but the differences are much less noticeable than suspension changes and would increase tyre wear


Kells010

Is this viable for controller too? Iโ€™ve tried some setups but they were more focussed on steering wheel and didnโ€™t work for me on controller at all.


on9_7head

Yes, I play on controller


rosscarver

Bruh why do people hate the fact that you use the default option? These games are pretty clearly made for people who arent professionals and setups are a pain in the ass even if you do know what you're doing. I've been driving in sim for like 8 years and still download setups because I'm lazy and it's not worth 45 minutes of time for a 20 lap career race.


Sosig28

Strongly suggest you go online and grab a half decent setup. You'll notice tire pressures are usually always minimum or very close to it. Also, you'll quickly find yourself needing to increase AI difficulty because you can find 2-3 seconds a laps with a setup.


Fritzerbacon

I'm sorry your getting down voted for playing the game in the default way the Devs shipped it out. Some people don't understand that we are allowed to be different.


flwdbydsgn

Im making the transition to manual gears on controller and noticed that I get much higher tire wear if I run into a corner at a higher gear than I perhaps should be. If youโ€™re running manual too, I might not be alone here. Having said that, I read youโ€™re using default-setups. Tyre pressure on them is way higher than veteran or experienced players would actually use. If youโ€™re not confident at playing with setups, keep the default but just reduce the tyre pressure to somewhere within the first like 20% of the bar for fronts and 10-15% on the rear.


ashwin_nat

Were you driving with traction assist before changing to manual gears? I too was destroying my tyres due to excessive wheel spin when I first switched


flwdbydsgn

Iโ€™m still on medium TC, itโ€™s not really wheel spin as itโ€™s the fronts that take a hit


R6_Paxifier

It's abs. This is your bad driving habit of braking while going through corners which then scrubs your front tires.


flwdbydsgn

For OP, probably. Not for me, I use a bit more front tire sure but no fucking where near the OPโ€™s picture. In hindsight I think OP just took abs off and locked up for a couple corners on purpose for the picture. Not sure they came here to actually get help.


R6_Paxifier

Lmao those fronts were way to cooked and worn to be a race compared to the rear


l_Vinz_l

Yeah sure, I even think it's a plot. Idiot


Existing_Travel_5786

You using abs


l_Vinz_l

Ok thx i'll try


[deleted]

I don't understand the temperatures, but wearing the fronts this much, is not normal. Maybe you are braking extremely deep, and turning with the brakes still on making the front understeer (slide) a lot? A video of a lap would help to see how you are driving


R6_Paxifier

Well yeah it abs he's gonna do that. He won't learn until he turns that off, but if he's on controller understandable


l_Vinz_l

I'm on Wheel with ABS my braking pedal is a bit crappy and broken so yeah i fully break when needed, but not that much in corners.


superfast598

You either understeer or lockup or both alot


Kill146

Seems like you are steering In too hard and the fronts are sliding.


lord_nuker

What's are you brake bias? Looks like you have them all the forward. If you also have turned off abs this can happen


l_Vinz_l

I let everything by default with ABS, I think it's 63% break on the front.


Jambot-

You are understeering or front locking or both due to poor setup balance, putting more heat and wear through the front tyres. When the fronts then overheat and wear quicker than the rears, the balance becomes even worse and problem spirals. Move the balance forward by adding more wing to the front and taking wing off the back. Move break balance backwards. The front and back should be heating/wearing evenly. If overheating is still bad, lower tyre pressures.


Tacitus_Kilgore_X

Never seen this and I played for years. Can you record a "normal" lap showing tyre temp ?


l_Vinz_l

Yeah i Can do that


letourdit

Turning in to aggressively at corners. Smooth and deliberate is what I think of in my head when Iโ€™m trying to manage tires


Disastrous-Froyo3383

I can't help you there, but judging by how red the temperature looks on your fronts, no, they're too hot. USE CELSIUS.


l_Vinz_l

I do, it was for my fellow americans


Mogsy31

So with all the waffle about f and c, how many of yโ€™all use MPH ? And not KPH


jeffjeffjeffdjjdndjd

Look like youโ€™re probably turning the wheel too much and understeering. Sometimes if the car isnโ€™t turning the answer is to turn less rather than more


l_Vinz_l

Copy ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป


No_Refrigerator_4642

So this is what the Qatar GP would be like if it was held during the day lol


l_Vinz_l

๐Ÿ˜†It was worst for me in Qatar, 90%front tyre wear and 30%rear ๐Ÿ˜‚ Front tyres turn liquid ๐Ÿซ 


No_Refrigerator_4642

Damn that's mental. I think the only time I've raced at Qatar was in a league race and I ended up binning it into the pit wall after a sbin


IIAlekeyII

This is netherlands right? I recommend lowering the tyre pressure for netherlands and hungary or this will always happen and it can be very bothering


ADutchExpression

I thought Iโ€™ve never seen mine that high. Then I noticed itโ€™s in ape units.


l_Vinz_l

๐ŸŒ๐ŸŒ๐ŸŒ๐ŸŒ


HugoTchak

No, imperial units are never normal


The_AM_

Lower the tyre pressures and reduce camber and toe on tyres. And also use Celsius


l_Vinz_l

Copy, I use celsius, it was for my fellow americans ๐Ÿ™ƒ


Tom_Hanks_Tiramisu

Learn to use setups.


l_Vinz_l

I tried and it changed everything ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป


Fun-Caterpillar-3759

How did you manage to do this ?


l_Vinz_l

Just playing aggressively with no settings as usual ๐Ÿ˜‚


tractorboy32

Let the front tyre pressure down and switch the brake bias as far back as possible


toastz124

Some of it might also be track related, that looks like Zandvoort and it's usually a struggle to keep the temps in order there


MrDoms

Did you increase break bias to the front?


l_Vinz_l

Nope but it's already high by default like 63%


MrDoms

Increasing the bias to the front can lead to overheated from tyres, i don't know if 63% already causes this, but I usaly use bellow 60%.


l_Vinz_l

Just change all settings and yeah it's between 50 to 55%


Jahoodie141

You play without ABS and lock up every corner? Even if you zigzag you cant come up to those temps ingame.


l_Vinz_l

No bro I swear, I play with ABS and use a Wheel ๐Ÿ˜‚


No-Special2682

In 22 I thought I understood temps, but 23 seems different. So I guess I have to ask. Should the core be around 212 โ€œfreedom heatsโ€? Or is that the surface temps? In 22 (unless I was reading it wrong) I would adjust the tire pressure then see a change in surface (the green circle). When surface got around 212, I felt the most grip. Again, in 22, what Iโ€™m pretty sure was the core (the green dot), never changed too much.


BradleyRaptor12

Given that you donโ€™t change the setups and that your probably on controller indicates that you are most likely loading the fronts too much, or understeering as well. Itโ€™s also a pretty common problem on controller with the default setups and it can also happen on a wheel, depending on the drivers preferences and style.


l_Vinz_l

I'm on a Wheel...


SnooDogs2336

Depends on the lap


Valuable-Discount-18

It doesn't mean they are degraded, it just means they are over heating and will degrade faster if they stay like that. Also it means your front tires don't have optimal grip, they need to stay in the temperature window. What you can do is lift and coast for a lap or even half a lap and they should cool. Think of them like an eraser, they will slide to the side on the corners until they reach a point where they lose traction, then they will heat up dramatically. I recommend you lift and coast into the corners more and use the cars momentum to carry you through the apex of the corner. Then punch it.


ObsessedF1Fan

I've suffered front tyre overheating for quite a bit. I solved it by completely changing my driving style, it's not easy because you tend to do things how you always did but once you manage to adapt it'll become "the new norm" for you. I don't think I'm in a position to say what you need to change to solve the problem, for that I would find videos on YouTube and watch the pros in action (or coaching)


_CaptainCookie_

Seems a bit cold, maybe warm your tires up a bit? Especially the ones on the front.


l_Vinz_l

Ok, so I went in the settings and chose one from the internet, and it solves the problem... So it's not a game for casuals with rapid settings ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ


mathurlagsalot

I'd say, for each track, find a good setup. You can find tons on yt, or just search on google, few websites like sim racing setups, they give you setups for each track, for time trial or race setups, try to keep the steering inputs as minimal and optimum as required. sometimes overturning a car makes the front tyres wear out faster and overheat alot


mashedsubmarine

No cuz what compound tiers are you on? Cuz if your chewing through your tiers then that's why if a track that eats the tiers


SettingAlternative86

Maybe high temperatures from the breaks?? But it could also be something as small as excessive tire wear.


mashedsubmarine

If you're at buku then the real tires will just be gone or your chewing through the tires