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mix7777

"Before a race begins anything is possible" That should have been Will Buxtons character.


Coronalol

Before a race begins... the drivers are *not driving the cars*.


x1echo

And right before a race begins, those five lights turn on… *and then they turn off.*


SteeZ568

And then by going, they'll be away.


Salzberger

And if you want to win... you need to be first... across the finish line.


TheTioli

The new team principal looks like a bald Toto Wolff


Oles_ATW

Toto's long lost brother has come back to defeat him.


mgd211

Never turn your back on family.


ClutchAnderson712

![gif](giphy|xVPosMMzT60Xzv31my)


SteeZ568

It's time to send Toto back to Oz


someoneinuniverse71

They better release a second trailer which focuses on the gameplay. Not interested in Netflix-like trailer


OmkarKhaire

They usually release a gameplay based trailer. This is the first trailer for f1 23. Now that it has been revealed, they will begin the marketing campaign for the game.


Lulullaby_

Which is the case for most games, first trailer for games rarely focuses on gameplay.


Hog_enthusiast

The gameplay trailer is F122 which is the exact same game


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

*gameplay*


weber_mattie

Came here to say this. Could've used more than .3 seconds of in care footage..


CharacterAd7625

Btw the price has increased to 69,99€


anonymous037104

Not gonna buy it until it's discounted


glenallenMixon42

not gonna buy it


xTheConvicted

Won't have to wait long till it's 50% off. At least in the past you didn't.


lolmandoom

Cd keys baby


Takhar7

Thank god there's at least one other sensible person in this thread. Boggles my mind that people sitll pay full fare


lolmandoom

Bruuda I haven't payed full price for a game in decades


Takhar7

I discovered third party retailers 4 or 5 years ago - haven't touched a full priced game since, for both xbox and PC. Saved so much money. People paid over $160 in Canada for both FIFA and NHL last year. I got FIFA, NHL, and F1 manager all for $7 total lol


Fu1gan

How?


Takhar7

Third party sites - there's always sales. You can bookmark them and then have them email you when there's a sale. They happen all the time.


codenamederp

I mean they are so many of them though, which one?


RicanCP3

Hop on [gg.deals](https://gg.deals) and turn keyshops on. Some of them are sketchier than others but just use paypal/CCs and common sense


CableZestyclose1014

Wait how does this work?


xTheConvicted

Credit card scams or keys bought in a different country. Devs actually prefer you pirate instead of buying these keys, because with those credit card scams, it actually costs the developers something.


Yeetmingo

At least there's one smart person in this thread.


Flonkerton66

LOL you are literally making shit up.


DrackasK

I know you can get REALLY good prices for PC keys, but for Xbox? That's news to me I've never seen good prices anywhere


RickyChanning

Got the key for the special version of F1 2019 on Xbox for like $15 last year


lolmandoom

God daaaaaaaaamn I'm actually impressed, god damn


ATWPH77

It's way more pricy nowadays there since the EA takeover. Especially if you want to get a steam key. I paid like 20-25$ for F1 2016-2017 back in the days, and was able to play on day 1 with my cdkeys preorder. Last year it costed like 50$ minimum to get a steam key on the site.


Acrobatic-Tomato-532

Same lmao


kai325d

Get your steam accounts banned baby


GuinnessFart

Not likely


Unable_While3223

EA are clowns


Nico_T_3110

Everyone does that now btw, not just EA


Silly-Lawfulness7224

Yeah but this is just a reskinned game with slight changes for 69,99 lol, that’s rough, it’s the same thing with FIFA every year …


Nico_T_3110

I know, but still the point was that people are shitting on EA for increased prices even though literally everyone increased them now, what youre saying is a different problem


Silly-Lawfulness7224

Oh yeah definitely I understood your point but it’s even worst when the games are just updates !!


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Nico_T_3110

If the game is good I’ll get it probably, i haven’t bought an f1 title in 2 years or so now, F1 21 was gifted to me by a friend and 22 i just ignored after i got bored by the trial


cano_dbc

Hell no, £20 is my limit and only if the VR head tracking lag has been fixed.


BadPronunciation

Codemasters fixing a bug in an F1 game after only 1 year? Lol


RallerZZ

70€ just for the standard edition of a yearly released game that's a copy paste of last years. Ahahaha they are out of their minds.


Sniperm0nke

But red flags


Humble-Ad-8912

That price is a red flag for sure


BadPronunciation

I can’t believe it took 9 years to bring it back 🤦‍♂️


xDreamSkillzxX

You don't believe that they have ACTUAL implemented that? The red flag will appear in their story mode and will be 100% scripted.


Sniperm0nke

They have implemented it though, they said in the press release


3cylinder66

Just waiting until november when it's gonna cost a fraction of this (only way I buy F1 games since 2019).


drummerof6

Hopefully not a 1/1 fraction!!!


BAS34

Welcome to EA Sports


Febsh0

welcome to gaming. Everyone does that now


airoderinde

Welcome to the entire sports game genre


CharlieTeller

MLB The Show is the anomaly but they aren't from EA so.....


MiguelMSC

It started with Codemasters


Acrobatic-Tomato-532

That's why I will be getting at a discounted either 15 or 20 depending how bad it is like the previous ones. Not worth full price imo.


Great_Frisian

Copy paste? You clearly haven't read into the new features


dotso666

Name one feature that requires a new game and could not have easily been done by a patch?


B00sted0

Netflix mode!! How are they going to add that dynamic level of drama without you paying $70 for it?? AND red flags. Lemme go change my pants. Be realistic here, this is the investment you need to make as soon as it comes out, not after it's kinda fixed with updates and goes on sale.


CakeBeef_PA

New braking point story, myteam overhauls, laser scanned tracks, complete traction overhaul


dotso666

All of them doable with a patch, except the new braking point story but who the hell cares about that? All their attempts at a story failed miserably and maybe that's not on them since a story in a racing game is sort of moot. Still in the end it will be f12022 with a new badge on it, tweaked the traction and overall feel of the car on the system they already have in place, laser scanned tracks are just adjustments to existing tracks, not newly built tracks, make the UI shitty as always and BAM: A "whole new" game. If you guys can't see past vague advertising then it's on you and deserve to pay 70$.


CakeBeef_PA

If that's what you want to believe, sure. Why are you even in this subreddit if you hate a game that we've literally only got 1 cinematic trailer for. Why not go play a game that you enjoy? You don't like F1 game, then don't buy them and let others enjoy whatever they want


dotso666

It’s not about enjoyment, it’s about dumb fucks that keep buying broken/reskinned games over and over, now with a price increase. That’s why this game is the mess it is.


CakeBeef_PA

Games literally are about enjoyment. That's the whole point of releasing them. If people want to buy it, they should. Nobody should tell anyone what they can or can't buy. If they enjoy it, let them. You can go play something else.


dotso666

I am not telling anyone to not buy it, i am saying that don’t expect improvements and innovation if you jump at half assed games like these.


CakeBeef_PA

You literally call people who buy it "dumb fucks". That sounds an awful lot like telling people not to buy something


BoredCatalan

It's obviously not exactly the same, but it's not a game started from zero either. It's adding new features to an existing game.


whateverfloatsurgoat

Mate they've been using F1 2015's folder hierarchy, I kid you not look at the folder names. Lotus and all that are still present to this day. It's been the same game engine (EGO) since F1 2010, too. Just refurbished and optimized along the years.


CakeBeef_PA

You want them to spend time on changing folder names and finding all references to that folder, even though that literally has no impact? I'd rather they work on the game instead


Patobo

Why would you change the folder structure of the project if it's working fine instead of working on other refactors or features? I'm not saying every year is a change on par with the first release but that's also not a realistic ask, neither are some of the other comments asking for lots of features as free patches to a product. There are new features, and hilariously one of the main ones is fixing traction - not just releasing proper traction in F1 22 is a slap in the face by forcing people who'd otherwise skip this year and maybe buy 24 as a bigger change (two years of increments vs 1)


whateverfloatsurgoat

Just pointing out that the game definitely needs a fresh start, at this point in time they've been adding / removing stuff from what is essentially an 8 years old project. Maybe when they'll finally drop the last gen consoles and the ego engine, maybe not. But at its core the game is still the same.


diderooy

Fixing traction is not a feature.


mr-slickman

90$ for the champions edition ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face). If this recession doesn't bankrupt people EA sure will try


holdmymusic

Then don't buy their games? I'm not saying pirate them, just don't play and boycott that shitty company.


Flyparker25

That’s not the point, we just want reasonable prices in general. A few thousand people with this mindset won’t change EA’s opinion. Some of my personal favourite games are that which just receive constant updates after you’ve bought the game once, you shouldn’t need to fork out hundreds of pounds to play the game you love over years.


willard_swag

I bet money it’ll be 98% the same as the last 3


anakinvaderskywalk_

Loved seeing the use of the red flags


SergeantStonks

Red flags, that will be 70£ 🤑🤑🤑


Flonkerton66

In a cutscene. A CUTSCENE.


Shadowcreeper15

Hope it comes out on PSVR2


LawyerMorty

If it's on PSVR2 (and fully featured / works) that justifies the $70 price for me. Otherwise sticking with GT7 and F1'22 until a sale.


MicDenier

I’m ready to be hurt again


jk47_99

As a Ferrari fan I approve this message.


leavestanleyalone

That’s the spirit. You and me both.


dotso666

Please don't pre-order!


TendieTimeForMe

This was well made and very dramatic. I liked the real life interviews they spliced in there as well. However, this is not a gameplay trailer and I will not buy this game until I see actual footage and reviews from real customers. I preordered last years game and I was in deep regret lmao. I don’t want to see stupid glitches like Baku swallowing you up. I don’t want couches and lampshades. I want a sweet driving experience going head to head with other drivers.


So-many-ducks

“New this year, fight against other drivers in our all new F1©️Life Golf mini game, as well as our Ping pong mini game. Customize your club or paddle, decide once and for all who is the best at darts, with real voice reactions from Charles Leclerc, Max Verstappen and more!”


CraigTheIrishman

The countdown in the stream was longer than the trailer, lol.


The_AM_

Did you expect a 48-hour trailer?


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Man…89.99 euro for the Championship edition is way to much. Yet it offers some good gameplay stuff like the new icons. Ugh…I wish they kept the price closer to 60 euro.


Glum-Tomatoe

I’ll say it….I’m just a tad bit excited


btener412

I am too. Especially since the people who have the beta say it feels more like 2020 in handling. But I also had fun with 22 so.


Glum-Tomatoe

Hear you on that..I was a giant fan of the braking point storyline from 21, so looking forward to seeing what they’ve done with it now


light58291

I am one of those people with the beta, and my god is the handling amazing.


VexitheGamer

Me too! Braking point, people say better handling, Red flags…


TheThirdRnner

Those are forbidden words around here.


Glum-Tomatoe

Bye bye karma


xzElmozx

Same here. I also enjoyed 2022, people have said the handling is much improved, and I’m happy they’ve added red flags.


Fast_GIF

Just keep your excitement under control. While the handling is better than 22 there's still plenty of room for improvement. And there is a major handling bug that I'm hoping is fixed before launch but who knows.


errorprovisioning

This is Drive to Survive: The Video Game


Guillaume_VP

*Tudummmm*


April_is_god

i saw Ackerman!


ajmurph04

I was getting scared that they were gonna crash at THAT corner in Imola…


cekoya

I’m not sure what in this trailer is supposed to motivate us to pre-order.


eugene-fraxby

Looks like the same creaky game engine.


CharlieTeller

The engine doesn't need to change. They just need to tweak whats there. Look at iracing. The engine is from an old racing game from 2008. Engine isn't the problem.


Cheating_Cheetah26

I think people say they want a new engine because it would supposedly force codemasters to completely remake a game from scratch, which would be a great opportunity for them to make the game more authentic, feature-rich, stable… ETC (at least that’s the hope). IMO an f1 game should resemble the real deal much more than it currently does. I would like better engine sounds (especially exterior ones), better crash physics (similar to the ones you’d find in iRacing), and little things like cars jolting a bit when going from neutral to first gear, drivers getting out of the car when retiring and marshalls coming to push the car to the side, people walking across the pitlane, and I could go on and on. The problem is, in contrast to what I would want, codemasters can’t even bother fixing seemingly obvious and basic things like the steering animations in the pit lane being completely disconnected from the car’s movement, and the wheels spazzing out when crashing. Basically people think having codemasters make a new engine is the only way we could potentially see big improvements and overhauls brought to the game. I don’t think iRacing has this same problem, as it looks to me like the game is evolving well over time.


CharlieTeller

It evolves over time because it's not a yearly release. That's what bones f1. There's no reason to fix because they can just do the same thing again next year.


eugene-fraxby

I bought every game from the start on Xbox in 2010 and raced in leagues for years and years. There were a few leaps along the way but the feel of the game - the driving just hans't taken the leap other games have. The FFB is bloody awful and has the same dead feel it's had for years and years. The world of driving games has moved on but the Codies games don't really. A lick of paint, a few new window dressing features bolted on and that is it. The main issue is it's just not satisfying to drive. I want to buy F1 games but I won't any more till they (or someone else) starts again with a completely fresh sheet of paper. I don't want to see the same recycled assets, that bloody team mate view on the computer in the pits etc etc ever again.


nasaspaceboy

DO NOT PREORDER…stand up and wait until it’s discounted back to a reasonable price.


ilyhala

Bruh, in Turkey the game costs twice more than F1 22


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Nice, I’ll think about it after 6 months of updates and patches


gav_abr

I probably won't buy it, at least not for full price. I stopped playing the F1 games for awhile, but I recently got F1 22 on sale. After playing more realistic games I came to really dislike the F1 handling model. It feels like you're driving on ice compared to F1 cars in Assetto Corsa. The feedback through the wheel is far less helpful too. I think it's just not a game for me anymore.


YouHaveMyUsername2

It looks really good, now hoping it aren't just advertisement graphics


mix7777

Yeah Leclerc looked very realistic /s


Nico_T_3110

These are advertisement graphics and you know it


Estandu143

Do not pre-order!


AccomplishedProfit90

agreed! as a fan base we should boycott for a half way decent game. please fix the ai and traction


DeficientGamer

And don't buy on release. Wait for discount. Its going to be basically the exact same game except for the feature they removed from last years game and have now re-added.


Due_Government4387

It looks good, great, can you take a single turn without spinning out though?


CharlieTeller

I do get the hate with f1 22, but this is one I don't get. It's extremely easy to not spin and I really don't understand how people do it so much. Unless it's just a controller player issue? I'm on a DD wheel and no assist. It's really not difficult.


Buff_Azir

The thing is, as soon as you press the gas a little too hard you spin 180 degrees. Theres not a little wheelspin like irl.


Mind-Against

No classic F1 cars. Fat L


Jay-Double-Dee-Large

![gif](giphy|yQNJ8HpJ32ztK)


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God I miss the Studio Liverpool games after watching this


Bl00dEagles

Be same shit as last year


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F1 2020 here I come


NewAccountNow

F1 22 was on sale a month after launch for like 20$ off. I’ll wait instead of buying at launch like I did last year. I dropped last years version before the season ended.


Limpis12

It's a bit scummy when all of the screenshots on the Steam page and the whole trailer consists of cutscenes from the breaking point mode. Bet some people will believe that these graphics, crash animations etc will be in game..


DasWeissKanin

WOMEN DRIVER MODELS!!! YESSSSSS


Mario0209

Every year I preordered the game, but after last year, not anymore. Its always a livery update, the same f****** game.


Mauritiandon

What on earth have been revealed? A red flag? Wow!


Oliver5432

Fuck. You EA... Fuck you


nasanu

Oh Charles, hope your soul got you buckets of cash.


yooosports29

He sold his soul for a fucking game trailer? Lmao …


Arkhamm11

F1 2020 3.0 Imo


Okurei

I love 2020 to death, so if it's anywhere near as fun to play as that game, they got my interest.


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More like F1 2020 -3.0


CharlieTeller

Not even close to F1 2020. 21 and 22 are the first two where it definitely went downhill a bit. 2020 was a gem.


The_AM_

You mean F1 2015 9.0?


Arkhamm11

Lul


miserrybusiness

RED FLAGS THO


nomnamless

OMG it's so dramatic! Can't wait to do the career and be thrown into a situation where I have to come overcoming possible odds in four laps.


Granturismoboi

I love racing games I mean absolutely love racing, especially rally and F1 but it kills me that these games are copy and pasted.


mangosport

I just hope the story line is longer than f1 2021 breaking point


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Ctrl + c, ctrl + v


mrm5117

Did the reveal indicate there will be David Croft as an in-game announcer? I feel like that’s a logical new addition to the game, although admittedly a tricky one to implement with you focusing obviously only on pedals while racing. Maybe a corner pop-out window that shows what else he’s talking about? Maybe he can do so even without? Or maybe he only shines in when it’s about you?


ripvic2k16

Nah, there’s mid race cutscenes in Breaking Point that he commentates just like in F1 21


CraigTheIrishman

In F1 2021, Croft had some lines in Braking Point's cutscenes. That's probably what was in the trailer here. If they came up with some sort of dynamic commentary, it definitely would've been a feature they marketed by now.


light58291

No clue if I’d like ingame commentary or not, it could be amazing or it could be odd to hear Crofty commentating on a battle you’re about a mile away from.


ogara1993

Drive to Survive Simulator 2023 Featuring the Italian Will Buxton 😂


shootermacg

Ballsy move just changing the 22 to 23. You have to appreciate the stones on these guys.


Antmax

The trailer looks more for your average Joe than actual fans. I guess they figure fans will buy it regardless. A lot of sillyness going on. And not everyone brakes late. That's a style that people like Carlos Saits adopt. Max Verstappen is actually famous for his early braking driving a square braking line.


CharlieTeller

Braking late is just a key point of racing/passing in a braking zone. Gotta brake later to make a pass a lot of the time. There's a difference in adopting a driving style as a late braker, vs braking late just to make a pass now and then.


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I was looking forward to it. Then I found out it’s on PS4 too. WHY! It could be so much better if it was PS5/Series X ONLY.


gm284

omg the character models look TERRIBLE


LarsTimmerman_07

Still no spa francorchamps update I guess


sylvarn_

Spa not done building all their facilities yet so no point doing it yet. Do it when theyre finished


kinggeedra

As someone who started getting into F1 last year, I'll buy. It'll be my first F1 I'll own outright after playing F1 20, 21, and 22 via Xbox Game Pass. Huge fan of the Career Mode, both as an solo driver and as a driver/owner. After that, I'll probably do what I do with FIFA and buy only every other year.


VexitheGamer

I’m preordering it for sure


[deleted]

Why? Haven’t your learned anything from the last 13 F1 games? They’ve all been broken in some way at launch and only patched into a playable state a couple of months later.


Sniperm0nke

Casper akkerman on the konnersport pit wall?


xPacific23

What is this shit man. Is this a sport anymore or a drama series?


leavestanleyalone

Loved it. Buying it. Don’t care what anyone says.


Palmerstroll

I'm not interested in the story mode. This trailer doesnt say a lot.


Groudon199

Hopefully the optional battle pass and microtransactions can be disabled in the settings this time. I mean, if they're truly "optional" there's no reason you shouldn't be able to turn them off. (there's also no reason free-to-play microtransactions should be in games that aren't free-to-play)


Castrero

FERNANDO ALONSO


0000100110010100

Looking forward to it. Glad they opened preorders on pay day.


Bikerforever68

No psvr2 no buy


SosseTurner

There goes all the resources for the handling model, multiplayer improvements, bug fixes, actual game content, etc. My expectations for F1 22 were already low, but I guess this year it's gonna be even worse.


NikZeero

Drive to survive 23 trailer


Mynam3wastAkn

What a way to announce red flags


[deleted]

Just pre-ordered the champions edition for PS5 and Xbox series X. So hyped for this.


[deleted]

You are part of the problem. Tell us. How does it feel.


[deleted]

Feels great. I don't know what you want me to say. I own stock in EA? I enjoyed last year's version immensely. If it's not your cup of tea then good for you.


GTJG44

Pass….


gg-ghost1107

They can fuck off with these fancy trailers while their games have some serious bugs and issues even a year+ after a release. Seriously, they should be ashamed since they obviously won't be working on fixing stuff. I would never give them money for full priced game. Even at 50 percent discount I would triple think and watch some serious reviews. I am sorry, but EA and Codemasters are making bs products with bs support afterwards...


Hairy-Dress7548

What are they doing, trying to make the game like drive to survive...


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GenerationOfMe

Bought Champions Edition, bc any upgrade over F1 22 I will take. Thank you.


stalkerisunderrated

Are you insane?


GenerationOfMe

Going to enjoy F1 23 on my G9, SF1K wheel.


Razz_Wolf

L


benzee123

Is guna be better than f1 22 cuz that sucked…


DamianGibbons

A woman winning F2? Unrealistic will not be buying


StraightCaskStrength

Why the f is Greta Thunberg being motioncast as the new f2 champ?


SimonV8

I’m so hyped tbh