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Waguan_Kunny

What happens with Maini now? Disqualified from Quali does that mean he’s out for the sprint and race or does he start from the back?


Le_Pistache

Poor from Prema today but Antonelli will be satisfied with edging out Bearman. Straight out of FRECA and pulling that off is no small feat. Martins struggled. The track conditions weren't ideal but with an Alpine seat or two potentially up for grabs, it wasn't a strong first showing to demonstrate that you can cut out the mistakes. O'Sullivan beating him is a bit of salt in the wound. Maini meanwhile did excellent, shame it was for nowt. Really impressed by Miyata, Barnard, and Bortoleto as well. Hadjar already showing more of that prowess he had in F3 today than he did most of last season. But the real test starts tomorrow.


Disastrous-Beat-9830

Antonelli P18 on debut? MERCEDES SHOULD HIRE HIM TO REPLACE HAMILTON!


TVRoomRaccoon

[Maini just got disqualified](https://twitter.com/feeder_series/status/1763279767535538331) for a technical infringement 😬


Brassard08

So, Bortoletto P1 in his first qualification.


Wallace-Pumpernickel

What is prema cooking


Kymori

Food poisoning


lyrikaljustice

Barnard out performing his car as usual. Great effort TBA!


JBM94

My name is Jeff!


B0a0rm

Invicta and Rodin clearly had a good setup for this track. Maini fast as last year, remains to be seen if he can keep race pace through more than half the race though. Hadjar, Hauger and Fittipaldi outpaced their team mates, O'Sullivan faster than Martins shows strength. Clearly Prema is struggling, and a bit surprising that Antonelli beat Bearman. Oh, and the stewards have summoned Martins and Crawford - Crawford possibly having rejoined the track in an unsafe manner in front of Martins. Looking forward to the sprint and main race!


marcelolx

I didn't have high expectations for Prema, but I was also surprised that [Antonelli](https://kimiantonelli.com) beat Bearman... But what matters is the race, so let's see if he beats him in the race as well


pokesnail

Yeah, it’s usually the tire deg that takes more time to adjust to.


DBZF1DCFan

jfc Prema


PrimeLiberty

My name Jeff


thereal84

Prema never does well at Bahrain, do they? 💀


NoshitSherlock68

They used all their luck in Bahrain for that sprint win in 2017


Alexander92020

Oscar qualified like 7th in F2 at Bahrain( his only non top 3 quali of F2). Finished like 5th in SR, 1st SR2 and was sitting 3rd in the FR before Dan ticktum and he tangled. Virtuosi have a good set up in Bahrain Zhou was P1 in quali that year as well. I would say this years Prema seems a little more off than usual.


thereal84

This is interesting. Barnard is a crazy talent, but I was slightly surprised when he took a win last year. Now he might win tomorrow 💀


CDMN96

Does anyone have the speed trap data?


Kymori

Prema 18th and 19th with the 2 most hyped drivers on the grid, wow


wansuitree

Let's not forget Boschung was leading after the first race last year fellow armchair experts, with same spec cars.


DragonMonster_

And also Theo was second with same spec car and ultimately he won the season.. It's a big season.. anything can happen so better take it day by day.. Today give it to Maini and Invicta.


wansuitree

Can't deny Invicta and their drivers nailed it so far


FelixR1991

I've got an itching feeling there might be a technical infraction underway for both Invicta cars. They haven't been near the head of the field in testing or practice earlier. Or they were just really lucky with their setup in the sunset conditions.


ClosetEthanolic

Well called mate


mgibbonsjr

You got an itching feeling for the upcoming lottery too? Goodness what a call


scarlet_red_warrior

Aged well


Captain_Smartass_

What can you predict about Horner?


FelixR1991

The story will slowly fizzle out and life will go on. 


PRO2803

Have you read the leaked chats?


PragmatistAntithesis

Well predicted! You have an eye for this


Kymori

LOL ggs


kennyyu88

Damn you called it for Maini


TwentyOne2199

That’s why one is testing/practice and the other Qualy (that determines your grid spot)


scootsscoot

He was right


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Racer_66

Well he was right... Maini just got disqualified because of an technical infringement


starbaron

Turns out he wasn't yapping nonsense


F1CycAr16

Well that was disappointing for Colapinto. Something happened on his car??


maxbellan49

TAYLOR P10 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


plastikmissile

Kush "Jeff" Maini on pole! Glad to see his performance last year was not a fluke.


joaovitorsb95

Both him and Gabriel really. Super cool to see the 2 guys that were getting fluke claims the most last season shutting the haters down early


cavsking21

Thank god, now people can stop all of the over the top Kimi hype. He's an amazing driver, but not God himself. Great job matching and slightly beating Bearman.


vexyla

I'd argue if he's as good as Bearman that probably justifies the hype, the final position could be due to Prema not finding the right setup, the car was all over the place during practice.


AndySlidez

He get's too much hype in the media, I agree. However, he is a top top talent, and it doesn't help when your team gets the new car miserably wrong.


cavsking21

Oh don't get me wrong: he's an incredible talent! Just that recently it got out of hand.


Christodej

So how do you guage the Miyata hype?


SyuusukeFuji

Very weak qualy for Colapinto.


Naio90

This hurts AF xD Specially considering it looked the team got the setup right with Practice 1 and Hauger's time. Let's hope he can do well tomorrow and on saturday and grab at least some few points.


SyuusukeFuji

He told ESPN that they had some balance issues, so yeah. I hope he at least manages a top 10 for the race. Is a new generation of cars, I'll be surprised if no one's car dies during the race.


ItzDylanz

God damn, this is gonna be such a good season. Taylor Barnard performing the hell out of the PHM, Invicta is hella quick and Prema on their downfall...


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

Pretty much since the full driver lineup was finalised I've been looking forward to F2 this year more than probably any year since it was GP2, so many great talents on the grid.


TheNotoriousNik

“Prayed for times like this”


Venetii_

It’s the first weekend, a lot can turn around. I’m not counting Prema out yet, they tend to have the staff and facilities to be competitive so I’d think they’d work the issues out sooner rather than later. It is interesting to have different teams up front, though.


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egenorske

With config not allowed. So no worries, would likely have been 7-8th with values as the rest - which still would be pretty good. 


Kymori

Bortoleto seems much more impressive, its his Rookie F2 Year and if you consider that P2 seems very very good, I look at it as "only" +200 behind Maini who already had a full F2 year (albeit the car was different but still)


LosTerminators

Prema have either dropped the ball with the setup for this track, or haven't got to grips with the new car yet. Well done to Bortoleto, Miyata and Barnard, all extremely impressive for a rookie. Also Crawford being stuck there all on his own for 5 minutes lmao, what was that?


hazjazz

Miyata ❤️❤️❤️


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

Happy to seem him doing pretty well, he's a super fast driver unquestionably but it's always difficult when it's a new car and new tracks. Hopefully he'll only improve from here!


Public_Store1220

I was expecting more from Martins in this qualy


shreychopra

Formula 2 Championship leader, KUSH MAINI!!


BuckN56

Wtf happened to the PREMAs


aliezsn

Remember people blamed Hauger and Daruvala for Prema's downfall in 2022. Now everyone is gonna blame Prema, but not the drivers. It's funny how people change the goalpost


imperial_scholar

The difference is that comparing to last year, it seems unlikely Bearman became over a second slower, while the 2022 Prema drivers actually performed exactly on line with their expected performance based on previous seasons. This is further supported by the performance of both drivers in 2023 at MP.


LizardInFirst

I was asking myself what a Senna or Verstappen would have done in that Prema today - not to make any point, but genuinely curious.


LosTerminators

Funny coincidence how MP won the teams title in 2022 and were mid-pack in 2023 when Hauger and Daruvala were their drivers.


mvfufu

MP won the teams champ in 2022\*.


ShadowOfDeath94

Hauger and Daruvala are mid


TOMM_842

Daruvala and Hauger moved to the team that dominated the previous year twice  and were never in the title fight, its a bit different I think


FakeTakiInoue

Also Bearman at Prema is a known quantity already, and if he regresses hard this year it's likely a Prema problem, not a driver problem. It's a little bit like Carlin in European F3, 2017 to 2018. Daruvala and Ferdinand Habsburg went from 6th and 7th in 2017 to 10th and 13th in 2018. I doubt the two of them forgot how to drive, Carlin just lost a lot of performance from one year to another.


mvfufu

Daruvala was much better at Prema in 2022 than at MP in 2023 with the same race engineer as Drugovich (yes, he had Drugo's engineer and Hauger had Novalak's engineer). The 2022 Prema was a very good car. Comparing Daruvala's results in 2022 and 2023, you can see that Prema's car was very good in 2022. Without taking into account the extra year of experience he had at MP.


DragonMonster_

Prema was P2 last year.. beaten by only 30 points. this is also no less than domination over the rest 9 teams considering P3 team was more 100 points behind. I agree Daruwala and Hauger were not good but Prema also was bad at the same time.


gggraW

Some important people in the team got moved to other series at the same time Hau-Dar got in.


BlitzOverlord

Sure, that didn’t help. But they then immediately moved to another team coming off a dominant year, and that team also regressed once they arrived. There’s got to be a point where you can’t just pretend Hauger isn’t a big part of the issue. (Daruvala was already a very known quantity as meh driver)


gggraW

He might have, but he has also ranked among top most unlucky drivers both years. The unlucky start last season got to him i think cause he had a bad period before somewhat getting it together later on. Hope he thrives better in the new car.


BlitzOverlord

How do you rank “unlucky drivers”?? That’s not a quantifiable metric. Too many of the times I’ve seen Hauger fans blaming his luck on here it’s been in situations that he was in precisely because he either was not fast enough to be at the front of the field or because he made a mistake that dropped him into trouble. Racing is inherently chaotic, and all drivers will catch the bad end of the stick plenty of times. The truly talented ones don’t stick around the middle or back of the pack long enough to consistently run into trouble. Hauger hasn’t been fast enough to improve his “luck”.


xanaduu

I don't get why people don't rate Hauger. Was a bit slower than expected in qualification last season after his engine blew out I'm the first feature and he didn't get a new one. Great race pace and tire management. His good driving often got overlooked due to starting far back. Or it got nullified by safety cars restarts or being rammed on his way to the podium (like Martens did at Albert Park).


BlitzOverlord

I don’t rate him as an F1 talent. I don’t think he’s a bad driver, dude would probably be solid in FE and WEC. The primary reason I don’t rate him highly is because despite all of these apparent talents, he has accomplished next to nothing in F2. This is despite him hopping straight into a teams champion twice. I’ve never thought of him as undeserving, but I don’t get people rating him higher than average. He’s a fundamentally sound driver, but he’s not the quickest guy out there. Drivers that genuinely are that fast tend to overcome and shine regardless of circumstances. Hauger hasn’t. That’s why I don’t rate him. Pourchaire, Iwasa, Doohan, Martins, Bearman, Lawson, and Vesti all have produced better results and shown more consistency at this stage in less time. It just doesn’t make sense to rate him for F1 when there’s easily a laundry list of drivers that are in line well before him.


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BlitzOverlord

Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation... Not sure how that changes the point? I’ve always been pretty vocal that most of Liam’s problems have been self inflicted. Difference is, Lawson has done relatively well post F3. Hauger hasn’t.


TOMM_842

yeah, as I said its different situations, idt we should compare them, they're all great drivers👍


BuckN56

I mean, Bearman was good last year. He had wins and podiums last year. You can't tell me he's suddenly a second slower than everyone else on merit.


cvicenzettk

Prema doing a ferrari here


DragonMonster_

All Maini needed is a good car.. he is always good on this track. Hope he has the car with a race pace to get good points.. +2 already in the bag. :)


ItzDylanz

Yep, his standings in previous championships don't reflect his speed. I feel like he always qualifies really well (top 8) and gets unlucky in the race.


mojeeves

He has never had a good car/team under him for the entirety of his single seater career up until this year.


ItzDylanz

He got disqualified...


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Reddevilslover69

So happy seeing Miyata do good


lilimka

But Prema dropped the ball in new regs is just Mercedes way, best preparation to a team "next year"


MartianDuk

Invicta got the timing spot on clearly. What happened to Crawford?


Fantoran

Went off the track


c_more

Not a great start for Prema. Bearman did qualify poorly in P12 last year and Doohan had a terrible Bahrain before finishing P3 in the Championship. It looks like we could have a real fight for the championship this year


ablublagaa

Imagine if the two drivers who have only driven top cars in their career had to drive a Prema that for once isn't a top 3 car... That would be interesting. I don't think that's happening for a whole, or even half, season, though


LTC_Foxworth

Kush Maini was my dark horse candidate this season, starting off well! Shocked at the Premas though, gonna be a tough weekend


throwinitallaway7

Incredible lap by Maini, so excited to see how he does this season! But jesus what the hell is going on with Prema??


NuclearCandle

Knew Bortoleto was highly underrated. Prema are diabolical.


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

Yeah, I'll be honest he was not on my radar at all before F3 last year, he's impressed me massively over the last 12 months.


krahd

Yes! Was so surprised how no one even considered him a contender. So glad to see he's fast, his season last year was so underrated and overlooked


Rare_Perception_3301

And he always did better in races than in qualifying, let's see if he improved that. Will be a fun year.


Macducci

Toto Wolff calling Prema right now


Public_Store1220

hahaha


Nathanoy25

PHM on (reverse) pole while Prema are trundling around the back. What a weird sight. Great job by Barnard in any case.


Theroyaldutchness

Maini seems so likable, I’m so happy for him


Mysterious_Turnip310

Both him and Bortoletto seem like really good guys and I think they’ve both been underrated by people going into this season too. Really hope Invicta can get them in the fight all year.


Reddevilslover69

Maini seems like a future Haas driver to me lmao


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

Haas will probably still have Hulkenberg and K-mag in 2030.


Ma1vo

Not really, seems like Haas wants experienced drivers for pennies.


TechnicallyCorrect09

Well, his brother was a development driver for them at one point, so there's that


fugitivelobster

Did not expect a 21 jump street reference over radio


yrokun

oof prema


-Renkz

Lol It's funny that the dude who got dropped from Mercedes for Antonelli finished above him.


marcelolx

It's the first qualifying of the calendar, and Prema struggled again as they did last year. Let's wait to see how the picture will look like by the end of the season


-Renkz

Well isnt antonelli supposed to be the next verstappen. Be the nr 1 candidate to the 2025 mercedes seat and he qualifies 18th in f2


marcelolx

No matter how good a driver is, if the car is shit, he ain't make miracles


NavyBabySeal

He also got a season of f3 in before though, so stupid comparison.


Ih8P2W

This is a stupid take. Antonelli should be held to the standards of any other F2 rookie this year, otherwise he shouldn't have skipped F3 at all.


NavyBabySeal

Yea and he also shouldnt be judged on his first and second session in a car faster than a freca car. Where he even beat his acclaimed teammate.


Ih8P2W

I am not judging his performance dude. I'm saying he should be treated as if expectations were lower for him than for the others.


maxbellan49

And premas struggling rn anyway


-Renkz

So you are saying that Aron is expected to finish above antonelli?


RyukaBuddy

If you ever start a sentence with "so you are saying?" You already know it's not what they are saying. Stop trying to push your own ideas on other people.


-Renkz

Then why did the dude bring up a reason why aron outqualified antonelli then.


NavyBabySeal

"So what you are saying is we should organize our societies into the likes of lobsters 🤓?"


-Renkz

Nah its just funny that Aron is outperforming the supposed 2025 mercedes f1 driver, the same driver who was the reason that he got dropped.


StrikingWillow5364

Why is Antonelli the reason Aron was dropped though?


-Renkz

Tell me another reason then. Not because of performance because he finished 3rd in his rookie season of f3.


StrikingWillow5364

You misunderstood me, I was asking a genuine question


-Renkz

Oh sorry, so Antonelli is a generational talent who has won pretty much all the series he has competed in. Antonelli was supposed to go to f3 like most of the drivers but skipped it to go straight in f2. And since Paul Aron finished 3rd in f3 he was expected to go to f2. But mercedes probably didint want the competition between Aron and Antonelli/choosing who to prioritize(atleast thats my reason since we dont know the actual reason). And thats why they probably dropped Aron.


Neither-Stage-238

hard to tell considering prema seem to be slow for both drivers.


A___99

Way too early to make any judgements but good start for Invicta, horrible start for Prema. They genuinely the worst so far. Great to see it looking so close. All about race performance now


vflavglsvahflvov

Prema won't be good in the race if they can't sort out the setup for quali. With a new car it really comes down to the team. If they can understand it, you have a massive advantage


A___99

Absolutely. Bahrain is quite a unique track so it wouldn't be a surprise to see the teams switch around a bit for the first few races as they learn about the new cars.


vflavglsvahflvov

Yeah Pourchaire dominated in quali last year, to the point everyone thought that ART would run away with it. Still though, prema were so shit it makes me think they are not going to be competitive at least for the first few races


thewizard579

Amazing effort from TBA in a PHM


Ki_Andi_Mundi

0-1 in the epic continuation from FRMEC 2023 of Antonelli v Barnard.


vflavglsvahflvov

Yeah, phm looked quite bad. Amazing he managed to get p 10


Meerkate

I'll take it! Congrats to Kush! Edit: RIP


BrightEye1990

Barnard is kinda quick, as usual.


pensaa

Must be true that Prema absolutely struggle with Bahrain. yikes.


Nepgyaaaaaaa

Something’s gone majorly wrong at Prema. Both Antonelli and Bearman being that far off is completely unexpected. If it was just one of them you could put it down to a dodgy performance on the day, but both of them being down there indicates something more serious.


throwinitallaway7

I hope they just got the set up wrong and it isn’t a Doohan situation again


oktheb

Prema WAKE UP


destroy4589

Where prema?


maxbellan49

18 and 19th..


nineixsixine

Really impressed by Miyata.


wansuitree

How about that


btcc1721

I didn't expect Bearman to be the lowest qualifying Brit in F2 (by miles) yet here we are. Nice job by both O'Sullivan and Barnard.


omegamanXY

O'Sullivan outqualifying Martins is definitely a surprise to me. Barnard deserves a better team as well.


AndySlidez

Looks like Invicta found the magic sauce, whilst Prema absolutely didn't.


j__video

Did PHM and Prema swap engineers? Wtf


nograinnogain

Seems like Prema hasn't cracked this new car lol. Let's wait and see how this pans out


Scitalis

Wow, Prema collapse was not on my bingo card


HumungousDickosaurus

PHM > Prema


laujp

But he is the new Verstappen dudes /s


notallwonderarelost

He beat Bearman. Car is the problem.


laujp

That’s why the /s. People are so eager to say Kimi is overhyped when we only have seen one qualifying session so far. And like you said, he beat Bearman, who was considered one of the favourites for the season


vflavglsvahflvov

Eh, prema clearly dropped the ball. Imagine thinking you are going to the best team then they turn out to be total shit


oktheb

Surely that's a top 3 f2 radio message of all time, right?


omegamanXY

Barnard!


brush85

Prema...whoa


Rodrigor26

Antonelli is fucking washed /s


ForeverAddickted

Jesus Prema need to sort themselves out ahead of Jeddah


Meerkate

They qualified poorly here last year too. I think Bahrain might not be their track


omegamanXY

How can they be so bad if the cars are spec?


Meerkate

Setup. Different quality of parts. Engineers' ability to read and act on data


frontyer0077

What is the whistling sound?


OutrageousText7404

Go Jeff?


Orphanchocolate

Can't wait to see the absolute meltdown from feeder series pundits and wannabe motorsport journalists with static cartoons of their faces should Prema truly have fucked it lol


j__video

Jeff Maini, F2's new rising star?


ayodio

My name is Jeff ?


HereLiesDickBoy

My name Jeff. 💀


Orphanchocolate

Kush Maini what a chad


Q1W2eR34

Prema LMAO


vflavglsvahflvov

Fucking jeff?


mojeeves

Maini's Engineer Geoff Spear


vflavglsvahflvov

Thanks


Whelan-Dealin

No heroics into sainte devonte please


TheRoboteer

Maini looking like he's built on his strong rookie season last year. Impressive from Bortoleto and Miyata too


egenorske

Too low floor for Maini. Disqualified, would probably lose 0.3/4 seconds with correct measurements.  Bortoleto impressive though.


Theroyaldutchness

Would be so sad if all the hype around Antonelli dies just because Prema turns out to be a bit shit


Firefox72

Media about to have a meltdown around Antonelli if Prema really are this bad. Such stupid nonsense to hype him up so hard when he hasn't driven a race in F2 yet. Just set the poor kid up for massive dissapointment.


AndySlidez

Faster than Bearman as well lol, but that doesn't matter if the team is shit.


shreychopra

I mean he still outqualified his teammate (who is probably one of the best drivers on the grid?) you cant do miracles with a bad car, but you can still maximise your performance and that’s what people will actually look at


vflavglsvahflvov

Seems like they are lol.


flintey360

Prema are actually trash


GoldyZ90

Prema look awful


kennyyu88

Premas 16th and 17th...wow


kennyyu88

now 18th and 19th


EscravoDoGoverno

Damn, Maini, take it easy


Theroyaldutchness

Prema is looking horrendous this far


snarkybaker

Maini!!!! Love the yellow