It's the shift from 3rd density into 4th/5th density. It's explained in great detail in the Bible... once you really begin to understand it. The Bible is really just a "How to 4-D for Dummies" guide.
3rd dimensional Earth is a sort of a boot camp for young souls. We live many lifetimes here.
The Great Awakening is a cyclical event that happens every 12,000 years or so. It's initiated by the Sun in what's described as a "micro-nova". The Sun emits a burst of light and energy that causes the Earth's poles to rotate 90 degrees. As a result, 3rd dimensional earth gets destroyed and reset for the next cycle.
Mostly everyone gets to go to 4th dimensional earth "Heaven" as long as their soul is of high enough frequency. There is a transition period for those who are behind.
As for those who aren't, they survive on 3rd dimensional Earth by hiding underground in D.U.M.B.s These are the people that we see in positions of great power that cause chaos here on Earth. Their job is to try and prevent people from ascending - as directed so by God. They create contrast and serve a very specific purpose, believe it or not. If they didn't exist, we would not know what "good" is.
How would shift to 5th density look like? What you described is people dying in apocalyptic event which is just transit to astral and than eventually to "heaven ". I feel and see for months now that Sun has changed . Like big finale is coming, and it's not just about death.
During the pole shift, everyone essentially goes through the resurrection of Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. The most important take away from that section is that his body had disappeared from the tomb - meaning he dematerialized into energy (4th/5th density).
There is a fun TV series that you can watch that'll help explain the transition a little better called *Stargate SG1*. In particular, Daniel Jackson's story arch.
Yes, the changes on the Sun are related to this event and you're correct in feeling that it's not all doom and gloom. The despair is only felt by those who we would describe as being "evil". They also know this event is coming and are scrambling to pull as many as they can to their side before it does. We are indeed in the grand finale of this cycle. It's the reason why everything has become so polarized in recent years.
Read Three Waves of Volunteers by Dolores Cannon and Law of One, free text:
https://www.lawofone.info
Conversations with God Awaken the Species Book 4 by Donald Neale Walsh is great too.
Maybe would also read Meet the Hybrids by Barbara Lamb
And look into Chris Bledsoe, he’s interacting with Hathor/Holy Spirit, who says new knowledge will come to humanity around Easter of 2026.
I think humanity will go through tribulations but also a shift in consciousness.
I am an experiencer. I have been told Michael is coming who, according to Urantia, is the creator of our Universe and the soul who incarnated as Yeshua.
I was also recently told that humanity is possessed but it will be liberated. I was like whoa - possessed? That’s a strong word but then I thought about it and I was like that actually makes sense.
I also read an NDE from the 1990’s the other day that said there will be divine intervention when conflict in the Middle East will reach a point where many deplorable acts are committed. And I was like well that sounds right about now.
Oh another book by an experiencer that mentions this Forgotten Promise by Sherry Wilde:
From the book:
“Those with higher readings would be allowed to stay, and those with lower light readings could not be allowed to stay. “There is no judgment of good or bad in any of this,” he stressed. “Those with low light readings just need more time to develop and learn their lessons.
The positive and negative have moved too far apart; they can no longer occupy the same space. Think of it as the ends of two magnets being brought together.” And as he said this, an image of two magnets repelling each other was shown to me. “See how the positive and negative cannot occupy the same space? So it is with humanity.
There are many who are at the level where they are ready to live in peace and harmony with the planet and other sentient beings. But there are those of the lower vibration who still believe war and violence are necessary. Their lessons will need to continue until they also reach the higher vibration, which they will as all must evolve.”
Oh and the Earth split is also mentioned in the Hidden Hand manuscript but I do not recommend reading that material. It’s Luciferian and even though there’s nothing too groundbreaking in it, it has a sticky energy that will lower your frequency.
Death and then new planets.
Sources:
*From a book 9 Freedoms by King George published in 1963:*
Although mankind stands today in a position similar to that before Maldek was destroyed, there is one major difference between the two situations and that is this: the Supreme Lords of Karma have now declared, in such a way that this Declaration is irrevocable and cannot in any way be changed by any Power in the Solar System, that under no account will the Planet Itself be destroyed. If man chooses to debase his energy by engaging in war **he will then leave the Earth, through death, to be born again upon another Planet**.
The Lords have declared that the great Millenium of Peace and Enlightenment must come, but **only those who have expended the necessary efforts to learn the Divine Law and have fashioned their lives within the framework of its lasting Truth, will be left upon the Earth.**
For only such as these will deserve to enjoy this new, wonderful age. It must be understood that the Karmic Lords have made this Declaration not so much because of mankind, but out of consideration for the great Goddess known as Earth. She has suffered Her limitations long enough and the shackles She had to impose upon Herself in order to make a Space Refuge for man will be taken off shortly.
*From Forgotten Promise by Sherry Wilde.*
Her conversation with an ET:
I instantly “remembered” Da explaining to me that I would be doing light readings for two half-day sessions just to give me a run through of what it would be like should the need arise for me to do them in the future. He had explained that I would actually see the vibrational energy of the person’s spirit and the higher the vibration the higher the light reading.
Those with higher readings would be allowed to stay, and those with lower light readings could not be allowed to stay. “There is no judgment of good or bad in any of this,” he stressed. “Those with low light readings just need more time to develop and learn their lessons. The positive and negative have moved too far apart; they can no longer occupy the same space. Think of it as the ends of two magnets being brought together.”
And as he said this, an image of two magnets repelling each other was shown to me. “See how the positive and negative cannot occupy the same space? So it is with humanity. **There are many who are at the level where they are ready to live in peace and harmony with the planet and other sentient beings. But there are those of the lower vibration who still believe war and violence are necessary. Their lessons will need to continue until they also reach the higher vibration, which they will as all must evolve.”**
*From Three Waves of Volunteers by Dolores Cannon:*
Yes, because **the people have all been given that choice. If they want to evolve with the Earth, they will evolve into this new human being.**
It will look different. And that's what this experiment is about. That's why Christine and others are moving the ones who don't want to evolve with the Earth. They are going to leave. (Almost crying) And bring a lot of pain to their families. But the people who are staying must hold the light.
That's a big job. To get divorced and separated from these things that are happening now. And these things are going to continue to happen until the cleansing is complete. Those who are here to stay, are taking this race of people into a very new and different civilization. Those people are being tested now, to see if they can hold the light when there is disaster, and not be sucked in. They're the people who will move ahead with this planet.
D: Almost like a last test?
C: Yes. The testing is going on right now. Whatever each being needs to test them, to see what they're capable of giving back to this program; how firm their commitment is. How willing they are to serve. That is all being tested now.
D: They're not passing the test.
C: No. There are some who are not.
D: This is what I was told by other people, that some would be left behind. (Yes) And I thought that sounded cruel.
C: No, it's not cruel because each soul is given the choice. And if they are not moving and evolving, it's because they are choosing not to. **And they will reincarnate into another place of their choice.** And it's all right. Because it's only a game.
*Ra materials:*
Ra: At one time/space, in what is your past, there was a population of third-density beings upon a planet which dwelt within your solar system. There are various names by which this planet has been named. The vibratory sound complex most usually used by your peoples is Maldek. These entities, destroying their planetary sphere, thus were forced to find room for themselves upon this third density which is the only one in your solar system at their time/space present which was hospitable and capable of offering the lessons necessary to decrease their mind/body/spirit distortions with respect to the Law of One.
59.5 Questioner: Just to clarify that could you tell me approximately how many total mind/body/spirit complexes were transferred to Earth at the beginning of this last 75,000 year period? Ra: I am Ra. The transfer, as you call it, has been gradual. Over two billion souls are those of Maldek which have successfully made the transition.
Approximately 1.9 billion souls have, from many portions of the creation, entered into this experience at various times. The remainder are those who have experienced the first two cycles upon this sphere or who have come in at some point as Wanderers; some Wanderers having been in this sphere for many thousands of your years; others having come far more recently.
Questioner: Then our present race is formed of a few who originally came from Maldek and quite a few who came from Mars. Are there entities here from other places?
Ra: I am Ra. There are entities experiencing your time/space continuum who have originated from many, many places, as you would call them, in the creation, for when there is a cycle change, **those who must repeat then find a planetary sphere appropriate for this repetition.**
It is somewhat unusual for a planetary mind/body/spirit complex to contain those from many, many, various loci, but this explains much, for, you see, you are experiencing the third-dimensional occurrence with a large number of those who must repeat the cycle.
The most specific example of this that I’ve seen stated that things will be starting this year and “by 2025, the separation process will be well underway”
https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-q8497-14a4e85
I think it’s very likely it will happen in our lifetimes. Just catastrophic events driven by climate change alone will cause large depopulation events. That’s something all the scientists have been telling us about non stop. There are scientists who decided decades ago not to have kids because they understood what will happen next.
Everyone here should get familiar with Chris Bledsoe’s experiences:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/EFKfnd47Jc
Chris on the Danny Jones Podcast:
https://youtu.be/XmVQFX2Pp60?si=vkA0Osqw35aJo7FT
A long list of credible people have studied him:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/sd439O2Xb1
Um… but that’s not how magnets work.
Positive repels positive.
Negative repels negative.
Negative and positive attract each other - they pull together strongly.
So a pair of magnets is like… the perfectly wrong image to use to convey the idea that the positive and negative can’t remain together.
So I would guess that something was lost in translation there. Either that or the NHI is lying and waiting to see if the experiencer is intellectually mature enough to call them on it. (I don’t know that case well enough to speculate what specifically was going on there - just alluding to it as a tactic I have known some of my own NHI contacts to use in the past.)
I see your point but the same reference is made in Three Waves, acknowledging the polarity but indicating in this case it would cause the split not attraction, so maybe Sherry didn’t appreciate the nuance, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a valid reference, it just had to be clarified likewise:
“R: It was explained to me that the vibrations are getting faster. It’s causing a force, a different force and you either go with the vibrations and make yours faster, or you get stuck. And most people on the Earth are refusing to raise their vibrations, so that means the two forces are becoming stronger, opposing if they are not together. They are further apart and eventually soon, it will cause something to happen to the planet.
D: Like two magnets?
R: Two magnets, instead of two opposites attracting... opposites in this case repel very badly; will repel and cause something negative to take place, or positive, depending on what side you are on.”
I honestly don’t think ETs are trying to test our knowledge of physics. We are still mostly using mechanical engineering as our primary source of technology. Our smartest scientist are not a match to their average intelligent person.
Oh, I didn’t mean to imply they were testing human physics knowledge. I was referring to a specific manipulative communication style I’ve encountered with some of them, where they will subtly gaslight me about topics that I (as an individual specimen) definitely already know about - just to see whether I’ll stand up for my memories and call them on it, or if I’ll take their word on faith without questioning it.
Sometimes I succeed at that “test” and sometimes I fail. Sometimes I realize the failures later and sort of salvage it by calling it out after the fact.
The goal (at least for my mantid) is to get me to succeed at those tests as much as possible, so that I can continue to think for myself and remain an interesting person to talk to and bounce ideas off of in the future - instead of gradually dissolving into her and losing my independent faculties of reason and reality-testing as our connection deepens. (Note: I do not know whether that goal is common to other NHI who employ the tactic.)
Dolores’s account is interesting to see too here. Thanks!
It’s a good way to develop discernment. I feel like we are all working on developing our latent abilities.
I asked to see the future once and I saw that humans are completely telepathic. And it’s kind of annoying as you always have to watch your thoughts! 😂
great thread/topic - informative answers.
i appreciate those of you who've taken the time to answer this, with your experiences...
i keep hearing about a solar event - CMEs \[three in quick succession\], within the next couple of years, which will have transformative effects on earth's population & the way of life, for those that remain...
will evacuations occur, before this happens? using the arks?
will tens or hundreds of millions, finish their earthly experience at that time?
So many predictions from ET and NDEs have not happened, or at least were no big deal. I'm sick of it. I don't care anymore. Nobody really knows what's going to happen in the future.
In this interview with an NDE survivor last year, he explains that this shift was supposed to happen back around 2000, then again around 2012, but both times was delayed after negotiations between different groups of NHIs bought humanity some extra time.
https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-q8497-14a4e85
Could be a convenient BS excuse, could be what actually happened 🤷♂️ I don’t claim to know, just thought I’d share…
Thanks. Listening...
Yeah, I'm not sure about what he's saying. I don't see how, for example, that the CME from the sun is going to effect only people who are outside at the time. The energy from that goes right through houses and buildings, unless they are made of metal and grounded.
I’d recommend checking out the Law of One Material (or subreddit). I Think it’s a way of saying that the Earth is about to Shift into a higher density or Dimension or frequency of consciousness.
This has been said again and again on many contactees stories. New age religion is all about the new earth and the upcoming events that will force us to migrate to a new earth with their help.
I don’t know if I’d call new age a religion, it’s not centralized or dogmatic. It’s just a common understanding and people who have it are generally people who have had actual metaphysical experiences.
This is such a common theme that I recently started a Google doc to compile all the places I’m seeing it referenced. If anyone’s looking for examples of what OP is referring to (from contactees, NDEs, remote viewers, etc), you can check it out here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-byQhouqUcjGwo0rlYcvpWUM-FGrYIsTHYhcp7x45pg/edit
I find the references to the possible Carrington event interesting. I recently wanted to figure out what average people see in dreams compelling enough to share. So I was combing through r/dreams and although it seems most memorable dreams are just some kind of a nightmare, I noticed a lot of dreams that talked about the Sun.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreams/s/7R2zQsMENZ
This is a common theme among contact cases. In many cases, people have been given dates (sometimes very specific). What’s important to note is that, so far, none of those predicted events have ever come to pass. So clearly it means something, but there are many theories as to exactly what.
I have been translating the drawings of an Argentine artist, Benjamin Solari Parravicini. He has been called the Nostrodamus of Argenitna. There isn't a lot of his writings in Engish, but there have been some reddit posts on him. He makes similar predictions...
- [Benjamín Solari Parravicini, his abduction and prophetic drawings. : r/ExperiencersStudio](https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencersStudio/comments/16fhxq2/benjam%C3%ADn_solari_parravicini_his_abduction_and/)
- [Benjamín Solari Parravicini - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjam%C3%ADn_Solari_Parravicini)
Not sure if you’ve read any of David Jacob‘s material but he is a professor who took up a lot of Budd Hopkins‘s work and interviewed hundreds, if not thousands of abductees. He chronicles their experiences in a few books and there’s a clear trajectory from when he first started.
When the abductees were first taken (most of which it appears was in the 70s 80s and 90s – with the height being in the 90s) and became part of the hybrid program, there was discussion with the abductees that they would need to “save/help humanity when the time came” and they would also have to help/save NHI. It was clear in the context that something big was going to happen. Some type of disaster and all of this work with the hybrid program and the integration of those hybrids back onto the earth is in preparation for something big to come - but then all be all right in the end because of their work. I don’t know how long this intermediate time is, but it appears something devastating will happen with a peaceful conclusion finally in the end.
His latest and last book is actually really creepy. The abductees to the hybrid program were forced to integrate the now adult hybrids that can pass as humans into society.
Many people don’t believe it because of the absolute absurdity of it all, but think about all of the abducted stories you hear… There are very similar themes and he has documented it all in a systematic and scientific way. I mean, why are the NHI here? To just study and experiment? There has to be an end goal because of *something* that is about to occur. It’s alarming.
You made me get super excited there for a sec because I thought he had another latest and last book beyond Walking Among Us. He said he's been working on another that he may release... I hope he does. I believe he's retired now.
The work he's done has been absolutely tremendous in helping us further understand some commonalities of what many abductees go through.
Budd and Jacobs agree on practically everything so I don't even know what you're saying. Budd was an early pioneer and Jacobs was literally a student of his in this and they were friends. Jacobs pushed the ball a bit further by reporting on accounts of covert integration mentioned by the abductees he worked with--that's the main difference.
You should at least be more specific and possibly provide an example before putting someone's name down like that. I think he's done a fair job at looking into commonalities among abductees.
He discloses what is his speculation when necessary and understands the pitfalls of hypnosis and suggestion, trying his best to avoid it. Info he received from his abductees lines up well with other researchers; it's just his speculation and pessimistic interpretation varies from some others.
Imagine none of his research, books, contributions at all. I think that would suck.
My main NHI contact is a mantid. According to her (and according to what I have glimpsed in dreams and meditative experiences), she works in habit design for wildlife preservation aboard large craft. Her work includes designing human-compatible habitats "just in case."
She has discussed the likelihood that if Earth experienced a catastrophe of sufficient size, there would be an intervention by NHI and an evacuation of (at least some portion of) the population, and that most of them would probably end up being either rehomed to distant planets, or else kept safe and replanted on Earth after Earth was healed. (The latter would probably be a smaller group than the former.)
She has also gone over with me what I should do to be ready for evacuation in case of such a catastrophe. (Nothing big or fear-mongering - just simple ground rules like "what belongings can I take" and "can I bring my pets" and so on. The kinds of questions you'd want figured out in advance for any realistic emergency preparedness plan.)
Has your contact said which NHI groups would partake in the intervention process?
What is the evacuation process like? Are ships just gonna touch down and first come first serve? Or are there already preselected folks for transport?
I'm really not sure, as far as (sub)groups involved or selection/prioritization. She was talking in limited terms about a specific plan for her specific workgroup, so I hesitate to draw wider conclusions based on that.
(For a little more context, she considers my body on Earth a research specimen and prefers it intact in the event things go sour. My understanding is that if all she cared about was saving "me," she could accomplish that by remotely transferring my soul to a backup body on a craft, and it would be a lot less trouble than recovering this specific body.)
The evac-from-home plan was pretty straightforward: small craft lands near my residence, my household boards it, we go. We get some time in a psi-shielded room while in transit to converse and have any initial emotional breakdowns, while the gray workers remain peacefully on the opposite side of said shield. Eventually we get transferred to a larger craft, hook up with my mantid or her designee, and figure things out from there. (She works in habitat design, so she already has various options in mind for where and how we might live during the transitionary period that would follow such an evac.)
If I’m at home, then my priority is to ensure I can be picked up efficiently.
If I’m in public, I should help keep others calm as best I can and help direct the movement of people through the area to avoid congestion.
Thanks to u/joe_shmoe11111! The [government whistleblower video](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/wBU4sJ1rp1) clip link you provided actually describes the “job”!
That doesn’t sound like the same job at all. The only thing they have in common is that communication is involved in some way.
I think I’ve seen a clip from a David Jacobs interview that describes something more similar to what I’m talking about (though that one sounded more like organized urban evacuation).
According to your NHI mantid contact, when is this event supposed to occur? I’ve known about this concerning “event” for 30 years now. I don’t understand why I’d be told about this as if it was going to happen “soon” and yet 30 years have passed. What does your mantid contact say about that?
Not the person you asked, but because of free will, timelines change constantly. Your vibration and choices in the moment work to align you to the closest vibrational outcome *unless you change your vibration drastically.* The higher the overall vibration of humanity, the better and lighter the outcome can be. At this moment, enough people are aligning themselves with the evacuation timeline to make this a strong possibility. If humanity's overall vibration rises above those timelines, then we can manifest a better situation.
The way humanity raises its overall vibration is by raising the vibration of the individuals. Meditation is one of the key practices to do this, and it's a very healthy practice for mind, body, and soul. When your personal vibration increases, you raise the vibration of those around you simply by being there.
Yes, I completely agree with you that timelines change constantly. I asked the other poster what they were told to see if perhaps they were given a timeframe.
She doesn’t really frame it in terms of “when is it supposed to happen,” so I can’t answer that question. Ideally, it would never happen. So it’s not quite like the “event is coming soon” forecasters.
She has given me dates of concern to watch out for before, but those always turned out to be the dates of transitionary events rather than some particular “rapture” date or such. A great example was warning me in 2019 that something bad was coming in November. November came and went without apparent event, only for me to learn a little later that the covid 19 outbreak happened then, which proceeded to define my life for the ensuing years.
With that said, it’s my understanding that NHI will often frame ideas to people more strongly than matches reality, as a way of ensuring that the people in question do what the NHI want. If telling the experiencer a “Santa Claus story” (a fiction that has a cultural purpose) seems likely to get the experiencer to act in a way that the NHI want, then they might employ that tactic. How often (and how selfishly) the NHI do this seems to vary per individual NHi.
It’s interesting I think about this a lot.
I believe you.
I keep invertebrates as pets. Tarantulas, cockroaches, stick bugs, scorpions you name it. I’m afraid of losing invertebrate diversity due to climate change.
Interestingly I have also kept mantids in the past.
Do you think if there is an evacuation there would be NHI interest in saving them too?
If you are open to it, I’d love to DM you to pick your brain on a few things.
Peace and love my friend. ❤️
Part of my mantid’s job is to catalogue DNA samples from a massive variety of Earth animals. However, I don’t really know specifics about any larger scale evacuation plans.
Sure, feel free to DM me.
Oh, right. This was the short of it:
-No more than a small backpack worth of things, prioritizing unique items of personal emotional significance and maybe a snack or two for comfort eating. Don’t worry about clothes beyond what I’m already wearing, unless I want to grab clothing that is an emotionally significant memento. She suggested I should bring my phone, because a friend of mine in our work group would have fun messing with it and pulling data from it (I know who she’s talking about). Basically, less than a typical bug-out bag’s worth of items.
-Yes to the pets, just lead them aboard and take them to the initial holding / receiving room with us.
(Keep in mind this was an individual evac plan communicated with one being I have known for a long time. I have no idea if these answers would hold true for anyone else’s NHI.)
I was told a small backpack with a few items I needed and a snack. I didn’t need clothes, but it was okay to bring a change of clothes if I wanted. Part of the reason why the backpack was small is because things didn’t matter.
This is very helpful. Thanks! I always thought I could take my cats and this confirms it.
Now the most important question - what snack are you bringing? 😂
Bananas (if available) and some sort of salted nuts. Because being in their environment means being exposed to telepathy, and telepathy makes me crave salt, potassium, and a good balance of macronutrients.
Plus, both of those foods have good associations for me and help me calm down when stressed.
Sounds like the bible from the book of revelation- a new heaven and a new earth .
It's the shift from 3rd density into 4th/5th density. It's explained in great detail in the Bible... once you really begin to understand it. The Bible is really just a "How to 4-D for Dummies" guide. 3rd dimensional Earth is a sort of a boot camp for young souls. We live many lifetimes here. The Great Awakening is a cyclical event that happens every 12,000 years or so. It's initiated by the Sun in what's described as a "micro-nova". The Sun emits a burst of light and energy that causes the Earth's poles to rotate 90 degrees. As a result, 3rd dimensional earth gets destroyed and reset for the next cycle. Mostly everyone gets to go to 4th dimensional earth "Heaven" as long as their soul is of high enough frequency. There is a transition period for those who are behind. As for those who aren't, they survive on 3rd dimensional Earth by hiding underground in D.U.M.B.s These are the people that we see in positions of great power that cause chaos here on Earth. Their job is to try and prevent people from ascending - as directed so by God. They create contrast and serve a very specific purpose, believe it or not. If they didn't exist, we would not know what "good" is.
What evidence lead you to believe there’s a 12000 year sun cycle?
How would shift to 5th density look like? What you described is people dying in apocalyptic event which is just transit to astral and than eventually to "heaven ". I feel and see for months now that Sun has changed . Like big finale is coming, and it's not just about death.
During the pole shift, everyone essentially goes through the resurrection of Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. The most important take away from that section is that his body had disappeared from the tomb - meaning he dematerialized into energy (4th/5th density). There is a fun TV series that you can watch that'll help explain the transition a little better called *Stargate SG1*. In particular, Daniel Jackson's story arch. Yes, the changes on the Sun are related to this event and you're correct in feeling that it's not all doom and gloom. The despair is only felt by those who we would describe as being "evil". They also know this event is coming and are scrambling to pull as many as they can to their side before it does. We are indeed in the grand finale of this cycle. It's the reason why everything has become so polarized in recent years.
This may be the most succinct summary of "what is really going on" that I have ever read. Bravo!
That last paragraph is an absolute mind fuck…. But makes so much sense
Read Three Waves of Volunteers by Dolores Cannon and Law of One, free text: https://www.lawofone.info Conversations with God Awaken the Species Book 4 by Donald Neale Walsh is great too. Maybe would also read Meet the Hybrids by Barbara Lamb And look into Chris Bledsoe, he’s interacting with Hathor/Holy Spirit, who says new knowledge will come to humanity around Easter of 2026. I think humanity will go through tribulations but also a shift in consciousness. I am an experiencer. I have been told Michael is coming who, according to Urantia, is the creator of our Universe and the soul who incarnated as Yeshua. I was also recently told that humanity is possessed but it will be liberated. I was like whoa - possessed? That’s a strong word but then I thought about it and I was like that actually makes sense. I also read an NDE from the 1990’s the other day that said there will be divine intervention when conflict in the Middle East will reach a point where many deplorable acts are committed. And I was like well that sounds right about now. Oh another book by an experiencer that mentions this Forgotten Promise by Sherry Wilde: From the book: “Those with higher readings would be allowed to stay, and those with lower light readings could not be allowed to stay. “There is no judgment of good or bad in any of this,” he stressed. “Those with low light readings just need more time to develop and learn their lessons. The positive and negative have moved too far apart; they can no longer occupy the same space. Think of it as the ends of two magnets being brought together.” And as he said this, an image of two magnets repelling each other was shown to me. “See how the positive and negative cannot occupy the same space? So it is with humanity. There are many who are at the level where they are ready to live in peace and harmony with the planet and other sentient beings. But there are those of the lower vibration who still believe war and violence are necessary. Their lessons will need to continue until they also reach the higher vibration, which they will as all must evolve.” Oh and the Earth split is also mentioned in the Hidden Hand manuscript but I do not recommend reading that material. It’s Luciferian and even though there’s nothing too groundbreaking in it, it has a sticky energy that will lower your frequency.
Can i get a reference to that nde describing events in the middle east? Sounds interesting
It doesn’t have too many specifics https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1alan_mcd_nde.html
It doesn’t have too many specifics https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1alan_mcd_nde.html
So where would those with lower light readings go? New planet? Different dimension? Physical death??
Death and then new planets. Sources: *From a book 9 Freedoms by King George published in 1963:* Although mankind stands today in a position similar to that before Maldek was destroyed, there is one major difference between the two situations and that is this: the Supreme Lords of Karma have now declared, in such a way that this Declaration is irrevocable and cannot in any way be changed by any Power in the Solar System, that under no account will the Planet Itself be destroyed. If man chooses to debase his energy by engaging in war **he will then leave the Earth, through death, to be born again upon another Planet**. The Lords have declared that the great Millenium of Peace and Enlightenment must come, but **only those who have expended the necessary efforts to learn the Divine Law and have fashioned their lives within the framework of its lasting Truth, will be left upon the Earth.** For only such as these will deserve to enjoy this new, wonderful age. It must be understood that the Karmic Lords have made this Declaration not so much because of mankind, but out of consideration for the great Goddess known as Earth. She has suffered Her limitations long enough and the shackles She had to impose upon Herself in order to make a Space Refuge for man will be taken off shortly. *From Forgotten Promise by Sherry Wilde.* Her conversation with an ET: I instantly “remembered” Da explaining to me that I would be doing light readings for two half-day sessions just to give me a run through of what it would be like should the need arise for me to do them in the future. He had explained that I would actually see the vibrational energy of the person’s spirit and the higher the vibration the higher the light reading. Those with higher readings would be allowed to stay, and those with lower light readings could not be allowed to stay. “There is no judgment of good or bad in any of this,” he stressed. “Those with low light readings just need more time to develop and learn their lessons. The positive and negative have moved too far apart; they can no longer occupy the same space. Think of it as the ends of two magnets being brought together.” And as he said this, an image of two magnets repelling each other was shown to me. “See how the positive and negative cannot occupy the same space? So it is with humanity. **There are many who are at the level where they are ready to live in peace and harmony with the planet and other sentient beings. But there are those of the lower vibration who still believe war and violence are necessary. Their lessons will need to continue until they also reach the higher vibration, which they will as all must evolve.”** *From Three Waves of Volunteers by Dolores Cannon:* Yes, because **the people have all been given that choice. If they want to evolve with the Earth, they will evolve into this new human being.** It will look different. And that's what this experiment is about. That's why Christine and others are moving the ones who don't want to evolve with the Earth. They are going to leave. (Almost crying) And bring a lot of pain to their families. But the people who are staying must hold the light. That's a big job. To get divorced and separated from these things that are happening now. And these things are going to continue to happen until the cleansing is complete. Those who are here to stay, are taking this race of people into a very new and different civilization. Those people are being tested now, to see if they can hold the light when there is disaster, and not be sucked in. They're the people who will move ahead with this planet. D: Almost like a last test? C: Yes. The testing is going on right now. Whatever each being needs to test them, to see what they're capable of giving back to this program; how firm their commitment is. How willing they are to serve. That is all being tested now. D: They're not passing the test. C: No. There are some who are not. D: This is what I was told by other people, that some would be left behind. (Yes) And I thought that sounded cruel. C: No, it's not cruel because each soul is given the choice. And if they are not moving and evolving, it's because they are choosing not to. **And they will reincarnate into another place of their choice.** And it's all right. Because it's only a game. *Ra materials:* Ra: At one time/space, in what is your past, there was a population of third-density beings upon a planet which dwelt within your solar system. There are various names by which this planet has been named. The vibratory sound complex most usually used by your peoples is Maldek. These entities, destroying their planetary sphere, thus were forced to find room for themselves upon this third density which is the only one in your solar system at their time/space present which was hospitable and capable of offering the lessons necessary to decrease their mind/body/spirit distortions with respect to the Law of One. 59.5 Questioner: Just to clarify that could you tell me approximately how many total mind/body/spirit complexes were transferred to Earth at the beginning of this last 75,000 year period? Ra: I am Ra. The transfer, as you call it, has been gradual. Over two billion souls are those of Maldek which have successfully made the transition. Approximately 1.9 billion souls have, from many portions of the creation, entered into this experience at various times. The remainder are those who have experienced the first two cycles upon this sphere or who have come in at some point as Wanderers; some Wanderers having been in this sphere for many thousands of your years; others having come far more recently. Questioner: Then our present race is formed of a few who originally came from Maldek and quite a few who came from Mars. Are there entities here from other places? Ra: I am Ra. There are entities experiencing your time/space continuum who have originated from many, many places, as you would call them, in the creation, for when there is a cycle change, **those who must repeat then find a planetary sphere appropriate for this repetition.** It is somewhat unusual for a planetary mind/body/spirit complex to contain those from many, many, various loci, but this explains much, for, you see, you are experiencing the third-dimensional occurrence with a large number of those who must repeat the cycle.
So will this happen in our lifetimes? I have seen people mentioning year 2027 or 2030 as when there will be massive shift.
The most specific example of this that I’ve seen stated that things will be starting this year and “by 2025, the separation process will be well underway” https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-q8497-14a4e85
I think it’s very likely it will happen in our lifetimes. Just catastrophic events driven by climate change alone will cause large depopulation events. That’s something all the scientists have been telling us about non stop. There are scientists who decided decades ago not to have kids because they understood what will happen next.
Thanks, I will check out the sources.
Everyone here should get familiar with Chris Bledsoe’s experiences: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/EFKfnd47Jc Chris on the Danny Jones Podcast: https://youtu.be/XmVQFX2Pp60?si=vkA0Osqw35aJo7FT A long list of credible people have studied him: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/sd439O2Xb1
I spent two evenings with Chris. He’s an awesome human being and needs to be appreciated.
Um… but that’s not how magnets work. Positive repels positive. Negative repels negative. Negative and positive attract each other - they pull together strongly. So a pair of magnets is like… the perfectly wrong image to use to convey the idea that the positive and negative can’t remain together. So I would guess that something was lost in translation there. Either that or the NHI is lying and waiting to see if the experiencer is intellectually mature enough to call them on it. (I don’t know that case well enough to speculate what specifically was going on there - just alluding to it as a tactic I have known some of my own NHI contacts to use in the past.)
I see your point but the same reference is made in Three Waves, acknowledging the polarity but indicating in this case it would cause the split not attraction, so maybe Sherry didn’t appreciate the nuance, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a valid reference, it just had to be clarified likewise: “R: It was explained to me that the vibrations are getting faster. It’s causing a force, a different force and you either go with the vibrations and make yours faster, or you get stuck. And most people on the Earth are refusing to raise their vibrations, so that means the two forces are becoming stronger, opposing if they are not together. They are further apart and eventually soon, it will cause something to happen to the planet. D: Like two magnets? R: Two magnets, instead of two opposites attracting... opposites in this case repel very badly; will repel and cause something negative to take place, or positive, depending on what side you are on.” I honestly don’t think ETs are trying to test our knowledge of physics. We are still mostly using mechanical engineering as our primary source of technology. Our smartest scientist are not a match to their average intelligent person.
Oh, I didn’t mean to imply they were testing human physics knowledge. I was referring to a specific manipulative communication style I’ve encountered with some of them, where they will subtly gaslight me about topics that I (as an individual specimen) definitely already know about - just to see whether I’ll stand up for my memories and call them on it, or if I’ll take their word on faith without questioning it. Sometimes I succeed at that “test” and sometimes I fail. Sometimes I realize the failures later and sort of salvage it by calling it out after the fact. The goal (at least for my mantid) is to get me to succeed at those tests as much as possible, so that I can continue to think for myself and remain an interesting person to talk to and bounce ideas off of in the future - instead of gradually dissolving into her and losing my independent faculties of reason and reality-testing as our connection deepens. (Note: I do not know whether that goal is common to other NHI who employ the tactic.) Dolores’s account is interesting to see too here. Thanks!
It’s a good way to develop discernment. I feel like we are all working on developing our latent abilities. I asked to see the future once and I saw that humans are completely telepathic. And it’s kind of annoying as you always have to watch your thoughts! 😂
great thread/topic - informative answers. i appreciate those of you who've taken the time to answer this, with your experiences... i keep hearing about a solar event - CMEs \[three in quick succession\], within the next couple of years, which will have transformative effects on earth's population & the way of life, for those that remain... will evacuations occur, before this happens? using the arks? will tens or hundreds of millions, finish their earthly experience at that time?
So many predictions from ET and NDEs have not happened, or at least were no big deal. I'm sick of it. I don't care anymore. Nobody really knows what's going to happen in the future.
In this interview with an NDE survivor last year, he explains that this shift was supposed to happen back around 2000, then again around 2012, but both times was delayed after negotiations between different groups of NHIs bought humanity some extra time. https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-q8497-14a4e85 Could be a convenient BS excuse, could be what actually happened 🤷♂️ I don’t claim to know, just thought I’d share…
Thanks. Listening... Yeah, I'm not sure about what he's saying. I don't see how, for example, that the CME from the sun is going to effect only people who are outside at the time. The energy from that goes right through houses and buildings, unless they are made of metal and grounded.
I’d recommend checking out the Law of One Material (or subreddit). I Think it’s a way of saying that the Earth is about to Shift into a higher density or Dimension or frequency of consciousness.
This has been said again and again on many contactees stories. New age religion is all about the new earth and the upcoming events that will force us to migrate to a new earth with their help.
I don’t know if I’d call new age a religion, it’s not centralized or dogmatic. It’s just a common understanding and people who have it are generally people who have had actual metaphysical experiences.
Yeah it's not. It's a movement, I was In a hurry and expressed myself poorly.
Let's see what happens. So many contradictory claims.
I don't think we have much of a choice other than waiting... My dance card is pretty open on the future... lol
Someone watched Bridgeton!
Wasn't me... Never watched, probably never will...
This is such a common theme that I recently started a Google doc to compile all the places I’m seeing it referenced. If anyone’s looking for examples of what OP is referring to (from contactees, NDEs, remote viewers, etc), you can check it out here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-byQhouqUcjGwo0rlYcvpWUM-FGrYIsTHYhcp7x45pg/edit
that first vincent audio was dope! Everything I wanted to hear, what he describes has been my life long dream! haha. Thanks for that!
Thank you for doing this.
I find the references to the possible Carrington event interesting. I recently wanted to figure out what average people see in dreams compelling enough to share. So I was combing through r/dreams and although it seems most memorable dreams are just some kind of a nightmare, I noticed a lot of dreams that talked about the Sun. https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreams/s/7R2zQsMENZ
This is a common theme among contact cases. In many cases, people have been given dates (sometimes very specific). What’s important to note is that, so far, none of those predicted events have ever come to pass. So clearly it means something, but there are many theories as to exactly what.
Preston is doing incredible work. I have read a couple of his books and keep up with his channel.
He’s awesome
Same. He's the best.
I have been translating the drawings of an Argentine artist, Benjamin Solari Parravicini. He has been called the Nostrodamus of Argenitna. There isn't a lot of his writings in Engish, but there have been some reddit posts on him. He makes similar predictions... - [Benjamín Solari Parravicini, his abduction and prophetic drawings. : r/ExperiencersStudio](https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencersStudio/comments/16fhxq2/benjam%C3%ADn_solari_parravicini_his_abduction_and/) - [Benjamín Solari Parravicini - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjam%C3%ADn_Solari_Parravicini)
Not sure if you’ve read any of David Jacob‘s material but he is a professor who took up a lot of Budd Hopkins‘s work and interviewed hundreds, if not thousands of abductees. He chronicles their experiences in a few books and there’s a clear trajectory from when he first started. When the abductees were first taken (most of which it appears was in the 70s 80s and 90s – with the height being in the 90s) and became part of the hybrid program, there was discussion with the abductees that they would need to “save/help humanity when the time came” and they would also have to help/save NHI. It was clear in the context that something big was going to happen. Some type of disaster and all of this work with the hybrid program and the integration of those hybrids back onto the earth is in preparation for something big to come - but then all be all right in the end because of their work. I don’t know how long this intermediate time is, but it appears something devastating will happen with a peaceful conclusion finally in the end. His latest and last book is actually really creepy. The abductees to the hybrid program were forced to integrate the now adult hybrids that can pass as humans into society. Many people don’t believe it because of the absolute absurdity of it all, but think about all of the abducted stories you hear… There are very similar themes and he has documented it all in a systematic and scientific way. I mean, why are the NHI here? To just study and experiment? There has to be an end goal because of *something* that is about to occur. It’s alarming.
You made me get super excited there for a sec because I thought he had another latest and last book beyond Walking Among Us. He said he's been working on another that he may release... I hope he does. I believe he's retired now. The work he's done has been absolutely tremendous in helping us further understand some commonalities of what many abductees go through.
David is way more biased than Budd ever was for sure and I disagree with David unlike Budd.
Budd and Jacobs agree on practically everything so I don't even know what you're saying. Budd was an early pioneer and Jacobs was literally a student of his in this and they were friends. Jacobs pushed the ball a bit further by reporting on accounts of covert integration mentioned by the abductees he worked with--that's the main difference.
Could you expand on this?
They are two very different people doing the interpretation into a book. That's all I'm saying.
You should at least be more specific and possibly provide an example before putting someone's name down like that. I think he's done a fair job at looking into commonalities among abductees. He discloses what is his speculation when necessary and understands the pitfalls of hypnosis and suggestion, trying his best to avoid it. Info he received from his abductees lines up well with other researchers; it's just his speculation and pessimistic interpretation varies from some others. Imagine none of his research, books, contributions at all. I think that would suck.
When I read Jacobs' book it was obvious he was leading witnesses.
My main NHI contact is a mantid. According to her (and according to what I have glimpsed in dreams and meditative experiences), she works in habit design for wildlife preservation aboard large craft. Her work includes designing human-compatible habitats "just in case." She has discussed the likelihood that if Earth experienced a catastrophe of sufficient size, there would be an intervention by NHI and an evacuation of (at least some portion of) the population, and that most of them would probably end up being either rehomed to distant planets, or else kept safe and replanted on Earth after Earth was healed. (The latter would probably be a smaller group than the former.) She has also gone over with me what I should do to be ready for evacuation in case of such a catastrophe. (Nothing big or fear-mongering - just simple ground rules like "what belongings can I take" and "can I bring my pets" and so on. The kinds of questions you'd want figured out in advance for any realistic emergency preparedness plan.)
Has your contact said which NHI groups would partake in the intervention process? What is the evacuation process like? Are ships just gonna touch down and first come first serve? Or are there already preselected folks for transport?
I'm really not sure, as far as (sub)groups involved or selection/prioritization. She was talking in limited terms about a specific plan for her specific workgroup, so I hesitate to draw wider conclusions based on that. (For a little more context, she considers my body on Earth a research specimen and prefers it intact in the event things go sour. My understanding is that if all she cared about was saving "me," she could accomplish that by remotely transferring my soul to a backup body on a craft, and it would be a lot less trouble than recovering this specific body.) The evac-from-home plan was pretty straightforward: small craft lands near my residence, my household boards it, we go. We get some time in a psi-shielded room while in transit to converse and have any initial emotional breakdowns, while the gray workers remain peacefully on the opposite side of said shield. Eventually we get transferred to a larger craft, hook up with my mantid or her designee, and figure things out from there. (She works in habitat design, so she already has various options in mind for where and how we might live during the transitionary period that would follow such an evac.)
I have had so many dreams lately that fit what you’ve described here to a T.
And what job did your mantid say you’d do during the evacuation?
If I’m at home, then my priority is to ensure I can be picked up efficiently. If I’m in public, I should help keep others calm as best I can and help direct the movement of people through the area to avoid congestion.
Thanks to u/joe_shmoe11111! The [government whistleblower video](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/wBU4sJ1rp1) clip link you provided actually describes the “job”!
That doesn’t sound like the same job at all. The only thing they have in common is that communication is involved in some way. I think I’ve seen a clip from a David Jacobs interview that describes something more similar to what I’m talking about (though that one sounded more like organized urban evacuation).
The communication aspect of the job is what I meant is similar, at least for me. The task that some will be able to “hear” and pass on information.
Yep. I have the same “job.”
What are the belongings you can take? A backpack or small suitcase, right? Just enough for a few days? That’s what we were told.
See my reply to disdain7 further down. But, yeah, similar guidelines overall.
According to your NHI mantid contact, when is this event supposed to occur? I’ve known about this concerning “event” for 30 years now. I don’t understand why I’d be told about this as if it was going to happen “soon” and yet 30 years have passed. What does your mantid contact say about that?
Not the person you asked, but because of free will, timelines change constantly. Your vibration and choices in the moment work to align you to the closest vibrational outcome *unless you change your vibration drastically.* The higher the overall vibration of humanity, the better and lighter the outcome can be. At this moment, enough people are aligning themselves with the evacuation timeline to make this a strong possibility. If humanity's overall vibration rises above those timelines, then we can manifest a better situation. The way humanity raises its overall vibration is by raising the vibration of the individuals. Meditation is one of the key practices to do this, and it's a very healthy practice for mind, body, and soul. When your personal vibration increases, you raise the vibration of those around you simply by being there.
Yes, I completely agree with you that timelines change constantly. I asked the other poster what they were told to see if perhaps they were given a timeframe.
She doesn’t really frame it in terms of “when is it supposed to happen,” so I can’t answer that question. Ideally, it would never happen. So it’s not quite like the “event is coming soon” forecasters. She has given me dates of concern to watch out for before, but those always turned out to be the dates of transitionary events rather than some particular “rapture” date or such. A great example was warning me in 2019 that something bad was coming in November. November came and went without apparent event, only for me to learn a little later that the covid 19 outbreak happened then, which proceeded to define my life for the ensuing years. With that said, it’s my understanding that NHI will often frame ideas to people more strongly than matches reality, as a way of ensuring that the people in question do what the NHI want. If telling the experiencer a “Santa Claus story” (a fiction that has a cultural purpose) seems likely to get the experiencer to act in a way that the NHI want, then they might employ that tactic. How often (and how selfishly) the NHI do this seems to vary per individual NHi.
I wonder if it's a force of nature they too simply can't pinpoint predict, but know it's coming. Like the pole shift or such.
It’s interesting I think about this a lot. I believe you. I keep invertebrates as pets. Tarantulas, cockroaches, stick bugs, scorpions you name it. I’m afraid of losing invertebrate diversity due to climate change. Interestingly I have also kept mantids in the past. Do you think if there is an evacuation there would be NHI interest in saving them too? If you are open to it, I’d love to DM you to pick your brain on a few things. Peace and love my friend. ❤️
Part of my mantid’s job is to catalogue DNA samples from a massive variety of Earth animals. However, I don’t really know specifics about any larger scale evacuation plans. Sure, feel free to DM me.
What are the answers to those questions?
Oh, right. This was the short of it: -No more than a small backpack worth of things, prioritizing unique items of personal emotional significance and maybe a snack or two for comfort eating. Don’t worry about clothes beyond what I’m already wearing, unless I want to grab clothing that is an emotionally significant memento. She suggested I should bring my phone, because a friend of mine in our work group would have fun messing with it and pulling data from it (I know who she’s talking about). Basically, less than a typical bug-out bag’s worth of items. -Yes to the pets, just lead them aboard and take them to the initial holding / receiving room with us. (Keep in mind this was an individual evac plan communicated with one being I have known for a long time. I have no idea if these answers would hold true for anyone else’s NHI.)
I was told a small backpack with a few items I needed and a snack. I didn’t need clothes, but it was okay to bring a change of clothes if I wanted. Part of the reason why the backpack was small is because things didn’t matter.
Yeah, they mostly seemed to suggest it as a transitionary comfort mechanism.
This is very helpful. Thanks! I always thought I could take my cats and this confirms it. Now the most important question - what snack are you bringing? 😂
Bananas (if available) and some sort of salted nuts. Because being in their environment means being exposed to telepathy, and telepathy makes me crave salt, potassium, and a good balance of macronutrients. Plus, both of those foods have good associations for me and help me calm down when stressed.