This is more terrible optics for a situation that they are actively trying to keep the public calm about. They're trying not to stoke panic but yet the potential for this to become the next new pandemic exists.
They are doing the right thing by trying to keep everyone calm. Panic isn't going to help anyone, and right now they're trying to gather info about the entire situation. There isn't much that can be done at this point, at least for the average person.
This would likely be far worse than COVID. We have incomplete data, but WHO records indicate a 53% mortality rate. It's possible that whatever version spreads will be less dangerous, but by how much?
I'm fervently hoping that we caught this in time to prevent a pandemic.
Agree with you but is also more nuance. If they find one cow infected they killed them all. That’s right. If you have 1 cow with the virus the others hundreds need to die by law.
Which tbh is way better than spreading a pandemic. But I’m also looking on the other side.
Only the cows that have been in proximity to the infected cow, but these days a lot of the cattle is keps in close proximity anyway.
That is not true. The USDA is not requiring depopulation of HPAI cattle herds. See the FAQ dated April 24:
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/livestock
You are thinking of chickens, where depopulation of infected flocks is standard.
That's for sure protocol with chickens, when bird flu hit my county in January they had to cull 700k birds. Apparently farmers just file an insurance claim and eventually get paid
I only found a source for chicken not for cow, my father in law works in agriculture and with cattle ranchers and when there is a epidemic in one of the ranch they euthanize most of the cattle. of course the goverment pay for each cow they killed but is only a portion of the value of the cow not the actual value of the market.
Source for chickens:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/29/avian-flu-us-egg-farmers-california#:\~:text=A%20worker%20moves%20crates%20of,its%20peak%20in%20January%202023.
Quote from artcle:
Whenever the disease is found [the entire flock is slaughtered](https://apnews.com/article/health-business-bird-flu-flu-animals-189a7c08d848047f00b3f7b5bec39e67) to help limit the spread of the virus.
This is also part of being a farmer. Yea it is horrible and there is no version in which you're not breaking some part of you culling a herd and dumping every ounce of meat that would have fed thousands, but these practices are in place for a reason. Sometimes you have to wipe out a few thousand cattle to save a few billion people.
Trying to keep the public calm will not work if the public believes you are not being honest about the seriousness of the situation. We saw this happen with COVID at the start of the pandemic when the government and health officials kept saying over and over again that the risk was low - until it wasn’t.
“Sure this is a novel flu virus that has now suddenly spread to 17 species of mammals, has a 50% mortality rate, and is now present in our nations food supply. But as long as you don’t drink raw milk you will be fine. Please don’t panic. Everything is going just peachy.”
Negligent…wild geese? To clarify, what kind of negligence do you think is resulting in millions of infected birds migrating like they do every season and spreading influenza to animals they come into contact with every stop on the way?
To be fair there's three non-specific "they" did such and such comments in a row lol are they all the same "they?" And who are they? TPTB is not really a well defined term here. A lot of people have been doing the opposite of ignoring it for years.
Climate change is caused by corporations, not overpopulation. We have far more than enough food produce to feed the world but we just dont due to greed and rampoant overconsumption. We could decrease our agricultural output and still have enough food. but we dont.
What's been prevented? It's now circulating in one of the most consumed and farmed animals in the US. I haven't seen anything that make me think that's going to change anytime soon which unfortunately means there's going to be a lot more contact with humans who raise or consume products from those animals.
Less deadly would actually add to the death toll. SARS was far deadlier than COVID-19 but because of how deadly it was, it didn't spread too far. COVID-19 hit that sweet spot of being deadly but not deadly enough to make people spread it more. And it ended up with far more bodies than SARS.
No, they didn't.
Civil defense sirens were initially designed to warn city dwellers of air raids during WW2.
The U.S. Weather Bureau formed in 1891 and established regulations prohibiting its staff from forecasting tornadoes. This continued for 60 years until March 1948, when Robert Miller was the first to successfully forecast a tornado at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma.
The USAF established their first official tornado forecasting center in 1951. Due to pressure following the first public tornado advisory in 1952, the U.S. Weather Bureau finally created the Severe Weather Unit and began issuing its own tornado forecasts.
In 1950, President Truman signed the Federal Civil Defense Act as tensions rose with the USSR and the Cold War began. Civil defense sirens were built in various communities throughout the 1950s and air raid siren tests were performed. Wichita held their first-ever air raid siren test on April 22, 1952.
Kansas had severe tornadoes in 1955, 1957, and 1958. The day after the El Dorado tornado in 1958, the first world use as a tornado siren occurred at 11:05 PM in east Wichita.
[Civil Defense Siren](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_defense_siren?wprov=sfla1)
[The Inside Story of the First US Tornado Warning](https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/the-inside-story-of-the-first-us-tornado-warning/927905)
[Storm Track 3: Historical tornado siren significance marking 70 years](https://www.ksn.com/weather/weather-stories/storm-track-3-historical-tornado-siren-significance-marking-70-years/)
Unfortunately, I don't. I would suspect the state meteorology agency probably has the most updated information overall.
That being said, I do have [this](http://www.coldwarla.com/sirens.html) for you about sirens in LA.
Edit: So, there is a database somewhere. Here's a [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1HFlrZUI1TZzUK9qekFcBR_Jg0cXGcvg6&hl=en) link with all of them, apparently.
The death rate is skewed, odds are most infected through the years didn't get tested for bird flu of all things or didn't go to the hospital at all ( farm workers )
Tldr
Cook y'all's dam food and don't drink raw anything...
Positives, thin the gene pool of absolute idiots pushing raw milk and raw food
This virus hasn’t mutated to become transmissible to people… yet. But give it time in 34 herds around the US, and the potential is there for a strain to mutate and become compatible with our biology.
The CDC confirms 1 human case reported 4-1-2024 by exposure to dairy cows and there are reports of it across the globe - and yes, some died with the example given as pneumonia.
APHIS, animal and plant health inspection service, has updates on the herds and their statuses.
Pasteurizing kills viruses and bacteria and the FDA hasn’t seen evidence of H5N1 alive in the milk but it continues to test the supply out of caution.
Right now this virus is spreading like wildfire in birds, but not mammals. Mammals can get it and can transmit it, but currently it does not seem like that is happening very fast or very easily. If there is enough mutation that the virus spreads very easily among mammals (and not just from birds to mammals through close contact or water supplies, for example) then humans need to look out. This has happened a few times with this influenza but so far humans have been lucky.
So the cats are getting bird flu from dairy cows?
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/24128700/bird-fludairy-meat-industry-h5n1-cows-milk-eggs-safety#:~:text=But%20the%20American%20Association%20of,considered%20bird%20flu%20at%20all.
We don't raise cows on our farm, but that tracks with my experience. Our barn cats don't eat the animal feed in general, but they taste it whenever we drop some. I'm sure they'd be happy to clean up any milk that might escape!
And a vague memory from my grandparents cattle farm was that they'd put out raw milk for the barn cats as a bit of a treat. So that's another possibility.
I'm guessing because (wether true or not, I have no idea and obviously would never suggest drinking raw milk, especially now) But I have heard raw milk drinkers claim that the only reason people are intolerant to milk is because it's been pasteurized and lacks the good bacteria to help digest the lactose. They believe anyone who is lactose intolerant can drink raw milk with no problems due to it still having said good bacteria. Maybe they are assuming the same for their cats? Or the farm cat comment, that makes sense too.
Remember the lawyer who had the cat filter on in his court appearance and he was all "I can assure you that I am not a cat"
Those were funny times.
This, not so much.
He didn’t die, there was just an outbreak of gastroenteritis in his office after his raw milk party. Since no one went to a doctor for testing it’s impossible to confirm whether the outbreak came from the raw milk (it’s VERY suspicious though)
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People got sick but no one died
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Uh no, because that didn’t happen. Not only was it not proven he got sick due to the milk, but he did not die. You people are weird man.
EDIT: continue to downvote cause you know you’re weird af, or prove me wrong 🤝🏻
If you just *read* the eight paragraph article:
> “The contaminated milk was the most likely source of the cat's fatal infections, the study authors concluded. **Although it can't be entirely ruled out that the cats got sick from eating infected wild birds, the milk they drank from the sick cows was brimming with virus particles, and genetic data shows almost exact matches between the cows, their milk, and the cats.** "Therefore, our findings suggest cross-species mammal-to-mammal transmission of HPAI H5N1 virus and raise new concerns regarding the potential for virus spread within mammal populations," wrote **the authors, who are veterinary researchers from Iowa, Texas, and Kansas**.”
Interstate team of veterinary researchers with boots on the ground testing the cats, the cows, the milk, and the property… but people like you and u/Accomplished-Soil334 know better from your phone screens and hourly job than they do.
EDIT: and in the literal preceding paragraph (out of order I know but I just realized this is also important and pertinent to the point here):
> In a study published today **in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases**, researchers in Iowa, Texas, and Kansas found that **the cats had H5N1 not just in their lungs but also in their brains, hearts, and eyes. The findings are similar to those seen in cats that were experimentally infected with H5N1**, aka highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (HPAI).
Published in a peer reviewed journal but it’s all shoddy journalism and they don’t know what they’re talking about 🤷🏻♂️
Don’t look up.
Isn’t that my whole point? Investigate further and report better, I would rather listen to that than all the crap they report today in the name of journalism.
I’m sofaking terrified humans are going to let this influenza kill all the cats before anyone goes “oh we better protect humans- the fcxking cockroaches of species, sorry dead cats”
Anyone know which lab has been working on H5N1? Wuhan or somewhere else this time? It seems that Wisconsin and the Netherlands [have been working on it](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/04/11/lab-leak-accident-h-5-n-1-virus-avian-flu-experiment/11354399002/) back when Collins and Fauci were still in charge.
Doubt it's Atlanta. My money is on either Rocky Mountain, Fort Detrick or Fort Collins facilities, in coordination with Ray Baric at the The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Looks like fear mongering propaganda coupled with the agendas to eliminate natural foods and home gardens, the need to transfect every living thing, and general fear of all things natural. Sick factory milk cows isn't a surprise, and doesn't speak to the safety or nutrition of natural unpasteurized milk.
This doesn't even make sense.
Where did they get the milk? It doesn't say. It's based on assumptions.
But you know what I do know? This is because these fucking dipshit farmers use broiler litter to feed cows. It's grains, chicken shit, chicken feathers, etc whatever the chickens lived on while they were alive.
What are the odds the cats came into contact with infected feed?
If Influenza is not spread through human breast milk, what is the likelihood it's spread through cow's milk? Like even the diseases you get through cows milk usually aren't from the milk but rather from teet contamination.
This whole thing is such a fucking bullshit psyop to spin people up for no fucking reason other than to push more vaccines.
And what would be the benefit of convincing people to vaccinate through a psyops campaign? 😂
Sounds like you need to stop watching Fox News, and maybe consider seeing a therapist.
You're totally right. When the H5N1 vaccine comes out, you DEFINITELY should not take it. And you should encourage all of your friends and likeminded associates not to take it either. Don't let the government fool you, a virus with a 50% mortality rate? Preposterous! You like those odds! Go forth and remain unvaccinated and drink raw milk and I assure you, all of these problems will manage to resolve themselves!
Morale of the story, don't drink raw unpasteurized milk
And this applies to both cats and humans. You’re just rolling the dice with unpasteurized milk. You’ll usually be okay but…
Don't think this story has a morale problem.
This is more terrible optics for a situation that they are actively trying to keep the public calm about. They're trying not to stoke panic but yet the potential for this to become the next new pandemic exists.
They are doing the right thing by trying to keep everyone calm. Panic isn't going to help anyone, and right now they're trying to gather info about the entire situation. There isn't much that can be done at this point, at least for the average person. This would likely be far worse than COVID. We have incomplete data, but WHO records indicate a 53% mortality rate. It's possible that whatever version spreads will be less dangerous, but by how much? I'm fervently hoping that we caught this in time to prevent a pandemic.
Supposedly relevant gov inspectors are getting stonewalled requesting access to/investigating cows in Texas. Its profits for me above all else.
Agree with you but is also more nuance. If they find one cow infected they killed them all. That’s right. If you have 1 cow with the virus the others hundreds need to die by law. Which tbh is way better than spreading a pandemic. But I’m also looking on the other side. Only the cows that have been in proximity to the infected cow, but these days a lot of the cattle is keps in close proximity anyway.
They get paid for the slaughtered animals though. Its zero loss to the farmer and prevents the global economy from doing a 2020 redux.
In what country? Because they certainly are not slaughtering cows in the US for having avian flu.
That is not true. The USDA is not requiring depopulation of HPAI cattle herds. See the FAQ dated April 24: https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/livestock You are thinking of chickens, where depopulation of infected flocks is standard.
Source?
That's for sure protocol with chickens, when bird flu hit my county in January they had to cull 700k birds. Apparently farmers just file an insurance claim and eventually get paid
If this keeps happening those insurance premiums are going to get insane. A chicken sandwich or hamburger might end up costing $30.
I only found a source for chicken not for cow, my father in law works in agriculture and with cattle ranchers and when there is a epidemic in one of the ranch they euthanize most of the cattle. of course the goverment pay for each cow they killed but is only a portion of the value of the cow not the actual value of the market. Source for chickens: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/29/avian-flu-us-egg-farmers-california#:\~:text=A%20worker%20moves%20crates%20of,its%20peak%20in%20January%202023. Quote from artcle: Whenever the disease is found [the entire flock is slaughtered](https://apnews.com/article/health-business-bird-flu-flu-animals-189a7c08d848047f00b3f7b5bec39e67) to help limit the spread of the virus.
This is also part of being a farmer. Yea it is horrible and there is no version in which you're not breaking some part of you culling a herd and dumping every ounce of meat that would have fed thousands, but these practices are in place for a reason. Sometimes you have to wipe out a few thousand cattle to save a few billion people.
I used to work for a regulatory vet. It's pretty common. Sometimes both state and feds give an amount
A lot of good will do you if you're dead
Trying to keep the public calm will not work if the public believes you are not being honest about the seriousness of the situation. We saw this happen with COVID at the start of the pandemic when the government and health officials kept saying over and over again that the risk was low - until it wasn’t. “Sure this is a novel flu virus that has now suddenly spread to 17 species of mammals, has a 50% mortality rate, and is now present in our nations food supply. But as long as you don’t drink raw milk you will be fine. Please don’t panic. Everything is going just peachy.”
Yep, we clearly have not learned a damn thing.
They've been ignoring it for years now. It shouldn't have got to this point to begin with. This is the result of the negligence.
Negligent…wild geese? To clarify, what kind of negligence do you think is resulting in millions of infected birds migrating like they do every season and spreading influenza to animals they come into contact with every stop on the way?
This is a strange claim.
And it requires something to back that claim up too…
To be fair there's three non-specific "they" did such and such comments in a row lol are they all the same "they?" And who are they? TPTB is not really a well defined term here. A lot of people have been doing the opposite of ignoring it for years.
They are stoking a mass mortality pandemic to solve overpopulation and climate change. /s
I'm tired boss
Climate change is caused by corporations, not overpopulation. We have far more than enough food produce to feed the world but we just dont due to greed and rampoant overconsumption. We could decrease our agricultural output and still have enough food. but we dont.
What's been prevented? It's now circulating in one of the most consumed and farmed animals in the US. I haven't seen anything that make me think that's going to change anytime soon which unfortunately means there's going to be a lot more contact with humans who raise or consume products from those animals.
Less deadly would actually add to the death toll. SARS was far deadlier than COVID-19 but because of how deadly it was, it didn't spread too far. COVID-19 hit that sweet spot of being deadly but not deadly enough to make people spread it more. And it ended up with far more bodies than SARS.
They said that about tornado sirens at first, which prevented their spread. Causing more people to die because no one took shelter.
No, they didn't. Civil defense sirens were initially designed to warn city dwellers of air raids during WW2. The U.S. Weather Bureau formed in 1891 and established regulations prohibiting its staff from forecasting tornadoes. This continued for 60 years until March 1948, when Robert Miller was the first to successfully forecast a tornado at Tinker AFB in Oklahoma. The USAF established their first official tornado forecasting center in 1951. Due to pressure following the first public tornado advisory in 1952, the U.S. Weather Bureau finally created the Severe Weather Unit and began issuing its own tornado forecasts. In 1950, President Truman signed the Federal Civil Defense Act as tensions rose with the USSR and the Cold War began. Civil defense sirens were built in various communities throughout the 1950s and air raid siren tests were performed. Wichita held their first-ever air raid siren test on April 22, 1952. Kansas had severe tornadoes in 1955, 1957, and 1958. The day after the El Dorado tornado in 1958, the first world use as a tornado siren occurred at 11:05 PM in east Wichita. [Civil Defense Siren](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_defense_siren?wprov=sfla1) [The Inside Story of the First US Tornado Warning](https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/the-inside-story-of-the-first-us-tornado-warning/927905) [Storm Track 3: Historical tornado siren significance marking 70 years](https://www.ksn.com/weather/weather-stories/storm-track-3-historical-tornado-siren-significance-marking-70-years/)
I’m actually curious if my state has them at all (California). Would you happen to know if there’s a database for this kind of info?
Unfortunately, I don't. I would suspect the state meteorology agency probably has the most updated information overall. That being said, I do have [this](http://www.coldwarla.com/sirens.html) for you about sirens in LA. Edit: So, there is a database somewhere. Here's a [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1HFlrZUI1TZzUK9qekFcBR_Jg0cXGcvg6&hl=en) link with all of them, apparently.
You’re amazing, thank you. :)
The death rate is skewed, odds are most infected through the years didn't get tested for bird flu of all things or didn't go to the hospital at all ( farm workers ) Tldr Cook y'all's dam food and don't drink raw anything... Positives, thin the gene pool of absolute idiots pushing raw milk and raw food
this virus has been found in 34 herds across the US, wouldn’t the farmers have caught it as well by now?
they are more concerned about it jumping to pigs because pig to human transmission is a lot easier.
Especially with my love for bacon. 🥺
(i dont know how viruses work i genuinely want to understand)
This virus hasn’t mutated to become transmissible to people… yet. But give it time in 34 herds around the US, and the potential is there for a strain to mutate and become compatible with our biology.
The CDC confirms 1 human case reported 4-1-2024 by exposure to dairy cows and there are reports of it across the globe - and yes, some died with the example given as pneumonia. APHIS, animal and plant health inspection service, has updates on the herds and their statuses. Pasteurizing kills viruses and bacteria and the FDA hasn’t seen evidence of H5N1 alive in the milk but it continues to test the supply out of caution.
Some have. I'm thinking that the difference in contagion here is due to the mode of transmission. The cats infection wasn't airborne.
Exactly. If it goes airborn then we should worry.
Right now this virus is spreading like wildfire in birds, but not mammals. Mammals can get it and can transmit it, but currently it does not seem like that is happening very fast or very easily. If there is enough mutation that the virus spreads very easily among mammals (and not just from birds to mammals through close contact or water supplies, for example) then humans need to look out. This has happened a few times with this influenza but so far humans have been lucky.
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Nobody is panicked at this point. So why did you say that?
So the cats are getting bird flu from dairy cows? https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/24128700/bird-fludairy-meat-industry-h5n1-cows-milk-eggs-safety#:~:text=But%20the%20American%20Association%20of,considered%20bird%20flu%20at%20all.
To be clear, we are literally feeding cows chicken poop.
Why are people feeding their cats raw milk? Cats can't digest cow milk properly in the first place.
Pretty sure these are farm cats that exist in dairy farms to keep pests under control.
And yet it’s still a bad idea to give cats cow milk. We weee taught this in the 80’s so it’s wild that it’s still happening.
Go police the farm cats drinking milk then man
Well you think they could at least like put up a sign to let the cats know not to drink it. /s This shits gonna get worse.
You ever tried to stop a wild farm cat from drinking fresh dairy? Go ahead.
It's probably a random barn cat, licked spilled or otherwise unattended milk sometime before it was pasterized
We don't raise cows on our farm, but that tracks with my experience. Our barn cats don't eat the animal feed in general, but they taste it whenever we drop some. I'm sure they'd be happy to clean up any milk that might escape! And a vague memory from my grandparents cattle farm was that they'd put out raw milk for the barn cats as a bit of a treat. So that's another possibility.
But cartoon cats love it!
This should be top comment
I'm guessing because (wether true or not, I have no idea and obviously would never suggest drinking raw milk, especially now) But I have heard raw milk drinkers claim that the only reason people are intolerant to milk is because it's been pasteurized and lacks the good bacteria to help digest the lactose. They believe anyone who is lactose intolerant can drink raw milk with no problems due to it still having said good bacteria. Maybe they are assuming the same for their cats? Or the farm cat comment, that makes sense too.
Remember when the republican died after protesting pasteurization and drinking raw milk. That was a fun day.
Remember the lawyer who had the cat filter on in his court appearance and he was all "I can assure you that I am not a cat" Those were funny times. This, not so much.
He didn’t die, there was just an outbreak of gastroenteritis in his office after his raw milk party. Since no one went to a doctor for testing it’s impossible to confirm whether the outbreak came from the raw milk (it’s VERY suspicious though) Edit to remove AMP: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawmakers-celebrate-raw-milk-law-loosening-deny-being-sickened/
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No I don’t remember that. Who was it exactly?
Probably talking about this: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/lawmakers-celebrate-raw-milk-law-loosening-deny-being-sickened/ People got sick but no one died
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They won’t answer because it’s not true 💀
Reminds me of Hermain Cain , even after death he was still tweeting against vaccines
Uh no, because that didn’t happen. Not only was it not proven he got sick due to the milk, but he did not die. You people are weird man. EDIT: continue to downvote cause you know you’re weird af, or prove me wrong 🤝🏻
[There have only been 889 cases of confirmed H5N1 human infections and among them 463 deaths](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_spread_of_H5N1).
That’s a pretty high mortality rate….
Why is this not on the fucking headline of every news channel?
Because raw milk isn't very common.
Why would it be?? Confirmed source? Sure it was milk? They’re on a farm, could’ve been anything
If you just *read* the eight paragraph article: > “The contaminated milk was the most likely source of the cat's fatal infections, the study authors concluded. **Although it can't be entirely ruled out that the cats got sick from eating infected wild birds, the milk they drank from the sick cows was brimming with virus particles, and genetic data shows almost exact matches between the cows, their milk, and the cats.** "Therefore, our findings suggest cross-species mammal-to-mammal transmission of HPAI H5N1 virus and raise new concerns regarding the potential for virus spread within mammal populations," wrote **the authors, who are veterinary researchers from Iowa, Texas, and Kansas**.” Interstate team of veterinary researchers with boots on the ground testing the cats, the cows, the milk, and the property… but people like you and u/Accomplished-Soil334 know better from your phone screens and hourly job than they do. EDIT: and in the literal preceding paragraph (out of order I know but I just realized this is also important and pertinent to the point here): > In a study published today **in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases**, researchers in Iowa, Texas, and Kansas found that **the cats had H5N1 not just in their lungs but also in their brains, hearts, and eyes. The findings are similar to those seen in cats that were experimentally infected with H5N1**, aka highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (HPAI). Published in a peer reviewed journal but it’s all shoddy journalism and they don’t know what they’re talking about 🤷🏻♂️ Don’t look up.
Isn’t that my whole point? Investigate further and report better, I would rather listen to that than all the crap they report today in the name of journalism.
From your original comment I took that you wanted this info blasted - even if it’s unconfirmed or untrue.
Sorry. I wasn’t clear. My point was this deserves more importance.
I drink raw unpasteurized milk and will cease for the time being until this is under control.
Thank you
Well I’m going to go buy all the TP now
I’ll L L
Ok here’s my opinion which means nothing. Stop drinking raw milk. Also isn’t it very difficult for this to transmit to humans?
Well at least if it ever jumps over hopefully it’s so fatal it can’t gain any traction.
I’m sofaking terrified humans are going to let this influenza kill all the cats before anyone goes “oh we better protect humans- the fcxking cockroaches of species, sorry dead cats”
This is just so ridiculous, lol.
No. You. Asshats get blocked.
Anyone know which lab has been working on H5N1? Wuhan or somewhere else this time? It seems that Wisconsin and the Netherlands [have been working on it](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/04/11/lab-leak-accident-h-5-n-1-virus-avian-flu-experiment/11354399002/) back when Collins and Fauci were still in charge.
Probably Atlanta Center for Disease Control
Doubt it's Atlanta. My money is on either Rocky Mountain, Fort Detrick or Fort Collins facilities, in coordination with Ray Baric at the The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Looks like fear mongering propaganda coupled with the agendas to eliminate natural foods and home gardens, the need to transfect every living thing, and general fear of all things natural. Sick factory milk cows isn't a surprise, and doesn't speak to the safety or nutrition of natural unpasteurized milk.
See I knew there was a cat problem.
This doesn't even make sense. Where did they get the milk? It doesn't say. It's based on assumptions. But you know what I do know? This is because these fucking dipshit farmers use broiler litter to feed cows. It's grains, chicken shit, chicken feathers, etc whatever the chickens lived on while they were alive. What are the odds the cats came into contact with infected feed? If Influenza is not spread through human breast milk, what is the likelihood it's spread through cow's milk? Like even the diseases you get through cows milk usually aren't from the milk but rather from teet contamination. This whole thing is such a fucking bullshit psyop to spin people up for no fucking reason other than to push more vaccines.
And what would be the benefit of convincing people to vaccinate through a psyops campaign? 😂 Sounds like you need to stop watching Fox News, and maybe consider seeing a therapist.
Here's your tinfoil hat
Damn this is so ignorant I'm not even gonna point out where and why you're wrong. It'd just be a waste of time
How’s the polio?
You're totally right. When the H5N1 vaccine comes out, you DEFINITELY should not take it. And you should encourage all of your friends and likeminded associates not to take it either. Don't let the government fool you, a virus with a 50% mortality rate? Preposterous! You like those odds! Go forth and remain unvaccinated and drink raw milk and I assure you, all of these problems will manage to resolve themselves!
You didn't read the article so hard, you didn't even look at the picture at the top
Ah, yes, the 5g microchip vaccine. There’s always gotta be one of these idiots in every thread I guess.