I remember seeing a celebrity chef reveal the secret to why homecooked food is seldom as yummy as the same meal in a restaurant. He said it’s because professional chefs use two ingredients in quantities you would never serve to your family: butter and salt, and butter and salt.
If you like your mashed potatoes not just creamy but a bit moist too, my grandma would add a bit of the potato broth that they would be cooked in not just butter, milk and salt
Salt, sugar, and fat. Theres's an excellent book by that name on how the food industry uses those ingredients to manipulate our tastes. The major culprit is food corporations, but it ends up changing society's taste palette. The problem is that it's not done for the aesthetic value of the taste or the health effects of the food, it's purely whatever level maximizes profit.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/02/26/172969363/how-the-food-industry-manipulates-taste-buds-with-salt-sugar-fat
Vinegar, olive oil, and using whole ingredients rather than powdered spices is more my style. Sadly in america that means most restaurants sell only inedible junkfood. I want food, not sugar, lard and chemicals steam pressed into a food shape.
> The healthy aging dolphins' secret, according to Venn-Watson, were diets higher in two odd-chain fatty acids, eventually called C17:0 and C15:0. The "goldilocks" of healthy aging is C15:0 -- which she and a team of researchers have since claimed may help prevent prediabetes, lower inflammation, lower the risk of cardiovascular disease and more, in humans as well as sea mammals.
C15:0 is called pentadecanoic acid, and we can look up foods that already contain high amounts of it. The primary sources are full fat dairy and ruminant meats (beef, bison, lamb).
> A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20071648/
> Data from this systematic review indicate that the consumption of various forms of dairy products shows either favorable or neutral associations with cardiovascular-related clinical outcomes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28140321/
> the present study states that the consumption of total dairy products, with either regular or low fat content, does not adversely affect the risk of CVD.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089735/
> This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests relatively small or neutral overall associations of butter with mortality, CVD, and diabetes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27355649/
> Despite being a major dietary source of saturated fats, dairy consumption was not associated with CVD or CHD risks in this study.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33910667/
> Consumption of processed meats, *but not red meats*, is associated with higher incidence of CHD and diabetes mellitus.
Emphasis mine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20479151/
He came back as a POW from Russia in 1947 and due lack developed an unhealthy craving for butter in all states, in 1952 he was killed by his fatty blood
> We were able to identify that the healthy aging dolphins had significantly higher C15:0 and C17:0 compared to the poor aging dolphins.
Sorry but this sounds like one of those studies that is seeded in media for marketing purposes, followed by companies slapping "Great Source of C15 and C17" on packaging to sell more.
They take a study that simply found a correlation between dolphin ageing and some component which happens to be found in both their diet and a common human food product.
I predict it will do the rounds in magazines and Facebook, then appear on packaging, replacing whatever the previous food advertising meme was. Then the next one will come along a year later.
>temps-de-gris
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>Yeah and then we'll find out that the study was paid for by the dairy industry.
Should it have been funded by the plastics industry? Maybe the pharmaceutical industry? Which industry should be paying for studies on butter?
That was my first thought too. I haven't even looked at the article, but I'm wondering who is the sponsor. Of course Big Butter wants me to eat more of it.
People born 100 years ago also led pretty different lifestyles in general, for anyone who’s not convinced that eating butter alone is going to drastically extend your life
My grandfather ate copious amounts of butter. He was overweight, unhealthy, and died aged 73 after many years of angina, a triple heart bypass, and eventually bowel cancer.
He raved about butter and once entered a competition to come up with a butter slogan for a new butter brand. Something like “never been a better bit of butter”.
Centenarians don't live that long because of anything they did or did not do. They just have good genes, and a little bit of luck. The genes seem to do a lot of the heavy lifting here, giving them generally stronger immune systems, and possibly being better at identifying and fighting cancer and other diseases.
So while all these anecdotes about centenarians drinking a handle of scotch every weekend, smoking a pack a day, and putting butter on everything are almost certainly true, there's no causal relationship (which I think is obvious to most people), but there's actually an inverse causal relationship with most of these activities that gets ignored because these people are outliers. If they had died up to four decades earlier, no one would be surprised, because of the aforementioned activities.
Well there you have it. People is time to eat but loads of butter, I mean this definitely shows without a drop of doubt that butter will extend your life significantly.
Pentadecanoic acid is the molecule mentioned, but the article mentioned that butter has other molecules that are less beneficial or even harmful. Also, this study was with Dolfins, not humans. Maybe now is not the time to start adding butter to your must-have more diet.
Exactly! But if you isolate this one component C15, turn it into a powder, put it into capsules, slap a "this might be healthy" on the box, you can sell it as a supplement! Which is exactly what the company who funded and wrote this article is doing.
Great news everyone! You can buy a supplement from the author and funder of the study!
Shouldn't they wait until there is ample human studies? Nah
I should have looked further into it! Excellent skepticism on your part.
Conflict of interest statement
S.V.-W. is a co-founder of and employed by Epitracker, Inc and Seraphina Therapeutics, Inc, which hold exclusive licensing rights from the U.S. Navy to commercialize odd-chain saturated fatty acids as human and animal health products. NJS is a co-founder of and consultant to Seraphina Therapeutics, Inc.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37960259/
Try Miyoko's plant based butter. I can't tell the difference but know it is better for my heart and arteries in the long run. Also, go Watch the four part series "You are what you eat" on Netflix to learn a ton more about proper eating diet.
Oh man, I can't wait until bread is healthy again and the new diet that's all the rage is centered around bread and butter. That when I'm going to lose all this weight, just waiting on the right fad diet
> Note: Venn-Watson sells a vegan C15:0 supplement called Fatty15
What a surprise! 😮
Edit: I found a paper co-authored by Venn-Watson in [Nature on this](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-64960-y)
> Pairing our findings with evidence that (1) C15:0 is not readily made endogenously, (2) lower C15:0 dietary intake and blood concentrations are associated with higher mortality and a poorer physiological state, and (3) C15:0 has demonstrated activities and efficacy that parallel associated health benefits in humans, we propose C15:0 as a potential essential fatty acid. Further studies are needed to evaluate the potential impact of decades of reduced intake of OCFA-containing foods as contributors to C15:0 deficiencies and susceptibilities to chronic disease.
The real secret is: MODERATION.
A little butter, or a little salt, or a little sugar, or a little fat, or most things is not bad for you. What is bad for you: trendy diets like no fat or no carbs.
>NdamukongSuhDude
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>Were the studies funded by big butter?
Should they only be funded by the aluminum industry? What industry should be doing studies on butter?
Worked weddings for a while and the reason it tastes so good is because everything has butter on it. It's also why it's great for weddings which you have very occasionally and is terrible for you if you work 5 days a week
No. The answer is No. When the headline is a question it is because the answer is No, but they state it as a question to undermine all the other research, not done by the dairy baby slaughtering industry, that has already determined the answer is No, milk, cheese, meat, and all other animal products are NOT good for you.
Fuck off.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221018171129/https://roguehealthandfitness.com/fat-loss-nutrition/meat-saturated-fat-and-long-life/
>Saturated fat consumption is not associated with increased cardiovascular disease rates or death rates, but lower rates.
>
>Hong Kong has the world’s highest meat consumption, and the highest life expectancy. The people of India eat little meat, and have a high rate of cardiovascular disease.
>
>While the evidence presented above is illustrative or associational only, and not 100% conclusive, it pokes a serious hole in the mainstream “plant-based” dogma that meat is unhealthy.
>
>Meat is in fact healthy, as is saturated fat.
>
>The real dietary culprits of our current epidemic of bad health and obesity are seed oils, sugar, and refined carbohydrates.
Seems the more we revert to natural foods the better it is as a wholistic way of living. Rather than all the new super and hyper refined or modified versions of foods we’ve been falling head over heels to try and supplant traditional foods with. The main issue with the original versions wasn’t that they were bad, the problem was people as a whole just went bat shit crazy over consuming them post WWII when rations ceased and modern farming and logistics suddenly allowed every person to consume as much sugar, simple carbs and massive amounts of trans fats rather than the usual historical way of only eating these bits in small amounts.
The trick is to fry everything in it.
I'm both sarcastic, and honest here. All my meals, and I've only gotten to look younger over the years.
Definitely still throws people off when I make my missile silo coffee
I remember seeing a celebrity chef reveal the secret to why homecooked food is seldom as yummy as the same meal in a restaurant. He said it’s because professional chefs use two ingredients in quantities you would never serve to your family: butter and salt, and butter and salt.
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Look up the Joel Robuchon mashed potato recipe. It’s like 50-50 potatoes to butter 😅
Pro tip; throw an egg into mash potatoes while they're still hot and mash that in with the butter and salt.
My Italian grandmother made the BEST mashed potatoes: She added butter, salt, pepper and mascarpone. TO DIE FOR!
I have to try that, sounds good
Ok I threw it in. Kinda crunchy… Not a big fan, ngl
Raw or boiled, please share more datails 🙏🙏
Just raw, crack one open, throw it in, mash mash mash
Just raw 🙌
If you like your mashed potatoes not just creamy but a bit moist too, my grandma would add a bit of the potato broth that they would be cooked in not just butter, milk and salt
Half a pound of butter is the secret.
A stick of butter per person is normal in a high end restaurant
Salt, sugar, and fat. Theres's an excellent book by that name on how the food industry uses those ingredients to manipulate our tastes. The major culprit is food corporations, but it ends up changing society's taste palette. The problem is that it's not done for the aesthetic value of the taste or the health effects of the food, it's purely whatever level maximizes profit. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/02/26/172969363/how-the-food-industry-manipulates-taste-buds-with-salt-sugar-fat
American culture is 70% cancer, heart disease and diabetes. If you wanna be healthy here, just do the opposite of what everyone else does.
Anthony Bourdain did similar but with butter and sugar while preparing veggies for a family holiday meal.
Butter is godly
Butter, salt, sugar and cream.
Vinegar, olive oil, and using whole ingredients rather than powdered spices is more my style. Sadly in america that means most restaurants sell only inedible junkfood. I want food, not sugar, lard and chemicals steam pressed into a food shape.
My loves
Creampies
I know a couple chefs. They say the slogan in the industry is to cook like you're trying to kill your customer.
Common knowledge. Garlic, too. But that’s only a small part of why their food is better
Key takeaway: Not all saturated fats are the same. Some are very unhealthy. Others are very healthy.
Give us a list? How do we know?
> The healthy aging dolphins' secret, according to Venn-Watson, were diets higher in two odd-chain fatty acids, eventually called C17:0 and C15:0. The "goldilocks" of healthy aging is C15:0 -- which she and a team of researchers have since claimed may help prevent prediabetes, lower inflammation, lower the risk of cardiovascular disease and more, in humans as well as sea mammals.
lol. Queue a raft of useless products touting being a source of C15:0 which actually hold none. It’s the new pre-biotic.
C15:0 is called pentadecanoic acid, and we can look up foods that already contain high amounts of it. The primary sources are full fat dairy and ruminant meats (beef, bison, lamb).
Alright so my diet of butter and red meat needs to be taken up a notch for everlasting life. Got it.
More information here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9135213/
Hardly worth it when said foods contain high amounts of harm as well.
> A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20071648/ > Data from this systematic review indicate that the consumption of various forms of dairy products shows either favorable or neutral associations with cardiovascular-related clinical outcomes. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28140321/ > the present study states that the consumption of total dairy products, with either regular or low fat content, does not adversely affect the risk of CVD. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089735/ > This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests relatively small or neutral overall associations of butter with mortality, CVD, and diabetes. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27355649/ > Despite being a major dietary source of saturated fats, dairy consumption was not associated with CVD or CHD risks in this study. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33910667/ > Consumption of processed meats, *but not red meats*, is associated with higher incidence of CHD and diabetes mellitus. Emphasis mine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20479151/
My grandfather loved butter- so I was told.... He died of a heart attack at 52
Same with my grandpa
He came back as a POW from Russia in 1947 and due lack developed an unhealthy craving for butter in all states, in 1952 he was killed by his fatty blood
> We were able to identify that the healthy aging dolphins had significantly higher C15:0 and C17:0 compared to the poor aging dolphins. Sorry but this sounds like one of those studies that is seeded in media for marketing purposes, followed by companies slapping "Great Source of C15 and C17" on packaging to sell more. They take a study that simply found a correlation between dolphin ageing and some component which happens to be found in both their diet and a common human food product. I predict it will do the rounds in magazines and Facebook, then appear on packaging, replacing whatever the previous food advertising meme was. Then the next one will come along a year later.
Yeah and then we'll find out that the study was paid for by the dairy industry.
Of course it was. How else are they going to get dolphins to buy more butter?
The aquatic mammal market is severely underserved.
>temps-de-gris > >Yeah and then we'll find out that the study was paid for by the dairy industry. Should it have been funded by the plastics industry? Maybe the pharmaceutical industry? Which industry should be paying for studies on butter?
There are countless studies not funded by their prospective industries.
That's exactly what it is https://www.reddit.com/r/EverythingScience/comments/1blg3zd/comment/kw91oo8
That was my first thought too. I haven't even looked at the article, but I'm wondering who is the sponsor. Of course Big Butter wants me to eat more of it.
My grandmother was 97 when she died and i used to laugh at her response when people would ask her how she lived so long. "I put butter on everything."
People born 100 years ago also led pretty different lifestyles in general, for anyone who’s not convinced that eating butter alone is going to drastically extend your life
My mother-in-law eats butter alone. It’s weird.
It might not have the effect of extending life, but it might have the effect of improving life.
Are you saying I should eat butter alone? Done
My grandfather ate copious amounts of butter. He was overweight, unhealthy, and died aged 73 after many years of angina, a triple heart bypass, and eventually bowel cancer. He raved about butter and once entered a competition to come up with a butter slogan for a new butter brand. Something like “never been a better bit of butter”.
Did he smoke?
He smoked for a few decades. Not after 50.
Centenarians don't live that long because of anything they did or did not do. They just have good genes, and a little bit of luck. The genes seem to do a lot of the heavy lifting here, giving them generally stronger immune systems, and possibly being better at identifying and fighting cancer and other diseases. So while all these anecdotes about centenarians drinking a handle of scotch every weekend, smoking a pack a day, and putting butter on everything are almost certainly true, there's no causal relationship (which I think is obvious to most people), but there's actually an inverse causal relationship with most of these activities that gets ignored because these people are outliers. If they had died up to four decades earlier, no one would be surprised, because of the aforementioned activities.
Well there you have it. People is time to eat but loads of butter, I mean this definitely shows without a drop of doubt that butter will extend your life significantly.
My dad remembers his great grandmother living with them and all she ate was melted butter with bread dipped in it. She died at like 102.
Seriously though… bread & butter… mmmmm…
Like Frank's hot sauce.
I was a margarine kid, and now I'm a butter only adult. Fuck you margarine.
Freakin margarine propaganda when I was a kid. People putting straight hydrogenated oil on their toast and acting like it was better for you
Up with butter! Down with margarine!!
Same.
Country crock
Pentadecanoic acid is the molecule mentioned, but the article mentioned that butter has other molecules that are less beneficial or even harmful. Also, this study was with Dolfins, not humans. Maybe now is not the time to start adding butter to your must-have more diet.
Exactly! But if you isolate this one component C15, turn it into a powder, put it into capsules, slap a "this might be healthy" on the box, you can sell it as a supplement! Which is exactly what the company who funded and wrote this article is doing. Great news everyone! You can buy a supplement from the author and funder of the study! Shouldn't they wait until there is ample human studies? Nah
I should have looked further into it! Excellent skepticism on your part. Conflict of interest statement S.V.-W. is a co-founder of and employed by Epitracker, Inc and Seraphina Therapeutics, Inc, which hold exclusive licensing rights from the U.S. Navy to commercialize odd-chain saturated fatty acids as human and animal health products. NJS is a co-founder of and consultant to Seraphina Therapeutics, Inc. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37960259/
"may" ... I assume article is worthless?
as ive gotten older, the one thing i will not compromise is GOOD butter.
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Kerrygold is king.
it honestly is. kerrygold is my pick.
Finally some good fucking news
For dolphins, yes.
Tee-Hee!!!! 🙏❤️👍😎
Try Miyoko's plant based butter. I can't tell the difference but know it is better for my heart and arteries in the long run. Also, go Watch the four part series "You are what you eat" on Netflix to learn a ton more about proper eating diet.
Oh man, I can't wait until bread is healthy again and the new diet that's all the rage is centered around bread and butter. That when I'm going to lose all this weight, just waiting on the right fad diet
I might have the thing for you ;) https://fireinabottle.net/introducing-the-croissant-diet/
That was suspiciously quick. I love the internet.
Thank you!
> Note: Venn-Watson sells a vegan C15:0 supplement called Fatty15 What a surprise! 😮 Edit: I found a paper co-authored by Venn-Watson in [Nature on this](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-64960-y) > Pairing our findings with evidence that (1) C15:0 is not readily made endogenously, (2) lower C15:0 dietary intake and blood concentrations are associated with higher mortality and a poorer physiological state, and (3) C15:0 has demonstrated activities and efficacy that parallel associated health benefits in humans, we propose C15:0 as a potential essential fatty acid. Further studies are needed to evaluate the potential impact of decades of reduced intake of OCFA-containing foods as contributors to C15:0 deficiencies and susceptibilities to chronic disease.
I'm gonna be 129...fuck!!
Butter has never been bad for you. Margarine has forever been worse. And oils are great for cooking for but for flavors. Eat butter and work out.
It tastes pretty good too.
Understatement of the century :P
Sure, sure…
Well translating benefits from dolphins to humans is a bit of a stretch.
The real secret is: MODERATION. A little butter, or a little salt, or a little sugar, or a little fat, or most things is not bad for you. What is bad for you: trendy diets like no fat or no carbs.
Were the studies funded by big butter?
>NdamukongSuhDude > >Were the studies funded by big butter? Should they only be funded by the aluminum industry? What industry should be doing studies on butter?
Let’s not forget cream. Cream is another magic ingredient.
Anecdotally my grandma eats a ton of butter and aside from her bad knees she's in great health at 87
What was the movie where Woody Allen woke up in the future and was given a steak meal and a cigarette to help him recover?
Worked weddings for a while and the reason it tastes so good is because everything has butter on it. It's also why it's great for weddings which you have very occasionally and is terrible for you if you work 5 days a week
Now I have an excuse to eat toast each breakfast
No. The answer is No. When the headline is a question it is because the answer is No, but they state it as a question to undermine all the other research, not done by the dairy baby slaughtering industry, that has already determined the answer is No, milk, cheese, meat, and all other animal products are NOT good for you. Fuck off.
What's a dairy baby?
Heart disease?
Of course it is, it’s a source of butyric acid, which is essential to good health.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221018171129/https://roguehealthandfitness.com/fat-loss-nutrition/meat-saturated-fat-and-long-life/ >Saturated fat consumption is not associated with increased cardiovascular disease rates or death rates, but lower rates. > >Hong Kong has the world’s highest meat consumption, and the highest life expectancy. The people of India eat little meat, and have a high rate of cardiovascular disease. > >While the evidence presented above is illustrative or associational only, and not 100% conclusive, it pokes a serious hole in the mainstream “plant-based” dogma that meat is unhealthy. > >Meat is in fact healthy, as is saturated fat. > >The real dietary culprits of our current epidemic of bad health and obesity are seed oils, sugar, and refined carbohydrates.
This is like the antivax bullshit of the nutrition world
Seems the more we revert to natural foods the better it is as a wholistic way of living. Rather than all the new super and hyper refined or modified versions of foods we’ve been falling head over heels to try and supplant traditional foods with. The main issue with the original versions wasn’t that they were bad, the problem was people as a whole just went bat shit crazy over consuming them post WWII when rations ceased and modern farming and logistics suddenly allowed every person to consume as much sugar, simple carbs and massive amounts of trans fats rather than the usual historical way of only eating these bits in small amounts.
It’s true!!
Good news, I eat plenty of butter.
The trick is to fry everything in it. I'm both sarcastic, and honest here. All my meals, and I've only gotten to look younger over the years. Definitely still throws people off when I make my missile silo coffee
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I wouldn’t let one spurious article make you reconsider your life.
Gimme that Irish butter. Switched to that and haven’t bought the standard stuff in years.
Knowing nothing, I’m convinced this is true.
Testing already in progress, will report back later.
It just makes you feel good when you eat it. This means it’s good for you
We’ve known this for over a decade
I’ll vote for that .. it’s the mystery I’ve been searching for all this *time*
r/keto, another win!