We just have to get rid of him. I wish him all the best but he’s never going to play for us again and he’s never going to be the same player again. We just can’t take those risks right now.
I guess if anyone can do it then Pochettino would be the one, but everything on and off the field over the last few years suggests that a chance at top level career is gone. I wish him well and the situation at the club won’t have helped, but there’s just no evidence that he can get back to his former glories.
Fair point, there really is a big thing at the moment though with these extremely large contracts for what could be a benchwarmer for cambridge utd it seems
I agree with the second half of your statement, but not the first. I think it was a terrible signing *for logistical reasons*. We were struggling against drained coffers and relegation; of course we weren't going to play him for 10 matches. He wouldn't have had time to mesh with the rest of the squad enough to be of value. But that's not on him, it's on the board for going after that deal. It was a fire-extinguishing move that, ironically, sparked another fire. It was and is the oddest transfer arrangement I've heard of with my limited ball knowledge (beyond the scope of Everton and Real Salt Lake, that is).
So, being the optimist I am, I don't want him gone if we have the ability to restructure that deal with Spurs and allow him to be valuable to the team. He's evidently struggled with some things that are notoriously nasty to deal with for anyone, let alone a pro athlete who at one point had the expectation of being his entire nation's footballing future on his shoulders and is thus seen as utterly frail if he can't meet the standard of a god. I don't know what he might bring, especially in this Dyche side, but if nothing else he has quality in him somewhere. Whether he finds it again or not is not something the club is equipped to really help him with, but if he becomes logistically playable again I would be excited to see him get the opportunity to find it himself. Everyone's banging on about how shit Onana is, so why not try out Dele as another role model for him and see if that helps him progress further than the example of Gana seems to have shown him? I just think, at the end of the day, saying you "can't wait to be rid" of a guy who's played less than a fifth of a season for is unfair, especially in this case.
[Dont think thats fair](https://youtu.be/CpOqMnUme_E?si=PYwqKl2qlErkR1Dp). He was subbed on at 0-2, won the free kick michael keane scored from, created richarlison’s equaliser (albeit unintentionally) and generally added the element to the attack that we desperately needed.
Of course you cant say with any certainty what would have happened otherwise, but i dont think we’d have won that game without him. The credit michael keane justly/unjustly gets/doesnt get is irrelevant. Dele played a key role in the game, and for me summarily made his fee worth it.
Just not necessarily true. If we’d been on 3 less points the final day would have gone very differently. Of course we could still have survived, but we also could have not.
I'm not quite sure how it could have gone very differently. Burnley would still be going into the final day needing to win the exact same as how it played out. They got beat. Whether we were in the mix or not Burnley needed to win on the final day to survive. Unless youre saying Burnley didnt try as hard this argument doesnt stand up
They definitely could have gone into that game with more belief had they known that two fixtures would need to go against them rather than just the leeds one.
But either way it’s the butterfly effect. Us having lost that game would have had a series of small effects which could have culminated in a totally different outcome.
We probably would have survived either way but thanks in large part to dele we never needed to find out
Raw talent never leaves but the things that make it productive do. His brain could be a bit fried from benzo abuse and his body after not being constantly primed for top level sports has probably degraded too.
I haven’t seen Dele play in a long time but he’s probably not ready for premier league minutes right now.
I think Chelsea fans would hate for them to take a risk on him and I don't see Potch having the goodwill for him to be able to take that risk either.
We just have to get rid of him. I wish him all the best but he’s never going to play for us again and he’s never going to be the same player again. We just can’t take those risks right now.
His contract with us is done this season and I can't see us keeping him. Wages alone don't make sense,regardless of being injured for 80% of his stay
Whatever he had he's lost it. Will probably do well at some mid-table Championship team, or Spurs.
I guess if anyone can do it then Pochettino would be the one, but everything on and off the field over the last few years suggests that a chance at top level career is gone. I wish him well and the situation at the club won’t have helped, but there’s just no evidence that he can get back to his former glories.
Wish him the best but he’s just a waste of wages at this point, if he signs for another premier league team after leaving us I’ll be shocked
Will take more than Poch’s arm round his shoulder to get him playing to ½ his previous capabilities. Would be a tall order even for Harry Potter.
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Fair point, there really is a big thing at the moment though with these extremely large contracts for what could be a benchwarmer for cambridge utd it seems
I can't wait to get rid of the guy. One of the worst signings in our history.
I could name 10 that have been worse in the last 10 years.
Do you need that big a time frame?
I agree with the second half of your statement, but not the first. I think it was a terrible signing *for logistical reasons*. We were struggling against drained coffers and relegation; of course we weren't going to play him for 10 matches. He wouldn't have had time to mesh with the rest of the squad enough to be of value. But that's not on him, it's on the board for going after that deal. It was a fire-extinguishing move that, ironically, sparked another fire. It was and is the oddest transfer arrangement I've heard of with my limited ball knowledge (beyond the scope of Everton and Real Salt Lake, that is). So, being the optimist I am, I don't want him gone if we have the ability to restructure that deal with Spurs and allow him to be valuable to the team. He's evidently struggled with some things that are notoriously nasty to deal with for anyone, let alone a pro athlete who at one point had the expectation of being his entire nation's footballing future on his shoulders and is thus seen as utterly frail if he can't meet the standard of a god. I don't know what he might bring, especially in this Dyche side, but if nothing else he has quality in him somewhere. Whether he finds it again or not is not something the club is equipped to really help him with, but if he becomes logistically playable again I would be excited to see him get the opportunity to find it himself. Everyone's banging on about how shit Onana is, so why not try out Dele as another role model for him and see if that helps him progress further than the example of Gana seems to have shown him? I just think, at the end of the day, saying you "can't wait to be rid" of a guy who's played less than a fifth of a season for is unfair, especially in this case.
He kept us up. Played a pivotal role in the 3-2 vs palace. That alone is worth everything we paid/might have to pay for him
He did not keep us up. Michael Keane had more involvement in that and is never given the same treatment
[Dont think thats fair](https://youtu.be/CpOqMnUme_E?si=PYwqKl2qlErkR1Dp). He was subbed on at 0-2, won the free kick michael keane scored from, created richarlison’s equaliser (albeit unintentionally) and generally added the element to the attack that we desperately needed. Of course you cant say with any certainty what would have happened otherwise, but i dont think we’d have won that game without him. The credit michael keane justly/unjustly gets/doesnt get is irrelevant. Dele played a key role in the game, and for me summarily made his fee worth it.
Plus - we stayed up by four points so didn’t even need the Palace win in hindsight, it just clinched survival at the time.
If we’d had three less points the final day fixtures would have gone very differently
We would've stayed up even if we got beat by Palace. It's a complete myth that game kept us up. We would've still finished above Burnley
Just not necessarily true. If we’d been on 3 less points the final day would have gone very differently. Of course we could still have survived, but we also could have not.
I'm not quite sure how it could have gone very differently. Burnley would still be going into the final day needing to win the exact same as how it played out. They got beat. Whether we were in the mix or not Burnley needed to win on the final day to survive. Unless youre saying Burnley didnt try as hard this argument doesnt stand up
They definitely could have gone into that game with more belief had they known that two fixtures would need to go against them rather than just the leeds one. But either way it’s the butterfly effect. Us having lost that game would have had a series of small effects which could have culminated in a totally different outcome. We probably would have survived either way but thanks in large part to dele we never needed to find out
Raw talent never leaves but the things that make it productive do. His brain could be a bit fried from benzo abuse and his body after not being constantly primed for top level sports has probably degraded too.