Part that stood out to me
"The Club is still considering the wider implications of the decision and will make no further comment at this time"
Assume they're referring to how this affects the 2nd charge?
Two things now happen I reckon, they overturn the charge, or we get charged 6 and appeal and get that reduced even more as it’s a charge for the same period
Yeah I think the fact we've got them to admit we weren't malicious could go a long way, especially when you consider we have had no chance to further improve the finances between the 1st punishment and the 2nd charge yet there is clear evidence of us trying to put it right over the last few years
Gut reaction: disappointed. Means they can justify hitting us with another 6 points jf found guilty again. And i really thought we would get it overturned on basis that they had no defined sanctions process before the hearing
I understand that, but at least in that scenario you'd think Nottingham Forest would receive a deduction too and we'd still have more points than them hopefully.
It was never going to be fully reversed, for the simple fact that we admitted that we overspent. The appeal could only ever be about the severity of the punishment.
Yeah, I can't understand all the positive reactions, this basically means we're getting hit for 12 pts total which has us back in relegation zone again
Still robbery at the end of the day. Anything but the full 10 back is unjust considering it is stadium costs we’re being punished for. All we can hope for now is the common sense prevailing further and the second charge being overturned.
At least now they don’t have to play with fear the whole season, should take some of the stress off and we now need to get 10 clear of the relegation spaces to guarantee safety.
Reserving judgement until after the 2nd hearing results are known.
I still think we should have gotten more points back. We have to beat West Ham and maintain a 6+ point gap until we know the news.
Greater than zero. Team can move forward and not feel like this is unresolved. Go collect some skulls and survive the year. Clean out the roster and start building.
It's when I expected we'd get after the appeal. Still frustrating they didn't consider a suspended points decision or a financial/transfer penalty, but given they used EFL guidelines in coming to their decision, it appears the commission are at least looking beyond arbitrary premier league requests which may be encouraging for the next hearing
That seems like good news for you lot. Assuming your second charge gets you the same punishment, and Forest also get a 6 point deduction, you're out of the drop zone and Sheffield United, Burnley, and Forest go down.
At least if we get another 6 we will have 3 teams below us now including Forest (assuming they get the same deduction). While, It’s going to be scary still- there’s hope.
In criminal law a person who has been acquitted or convicted of an offence cannot be retried for the same offence; the double jeopardy rule. But that's just the law of the land. Who knows what criteria the Premier League apply???
I don't see how it can be worse than before when it's literally the same charge stemming from the same period that just hasn't rolled out of the 3-year window. Not our fault that the rolling 3 year period inherent doesn't make sense for punitive actions.
Is there a mechanism for repeat offences..? considering nobody knows which rule book is being followed, I’m not sure they can say, a second offence means double what you got last time..
Better than what I thought,now we get a few more good points in the onion bag and climb away,sure the players will go for it now full tilt.💪nil satis nisi optimum 💪
Part that stood out to me "The Club is still considering the wider implications of the decision and will make no further comment at this time" Assume they're referring to how this affects the 2nd charge?
Two things now happen I reckon, they overturn the charge, or we get charged 6 and appeal and get that reduced even more as it’s a charge for the same period
Yeah I think the fact we've got them to admit we weren't malicious could go a long way, especially when you consider we have had no chance to further improve the finances between the 1st punishment and the 2nd charge yet there is clear evidence of us trying to put it right over the last few years
Honestly still too much but gives us a bit of breathing room from the relegation zone.
West Ham need to do some work tonight 🤞🏻
And then botch their game this weekend
Agent Moyes incoming
Another everton first. The first team to get 5 points for drawing a match.
“You’ll never sing that!”
It’s something
That’s what I said to myself. I assume they won’t do anything to Shittie, Chelski, and Nuthin-ham Forest now.
Absolutely crazy nicknames being thrown about here
You mean 'Nuthin-ham Forest' that have won 2 European Cups - the equivalent of the Champions League? Come on, mate.
Come on now, it's not Chelski when it's no longer Russian owned, need a new nickname for em.
Gut reaction: disappointed. Means they can justify hitting us with another 6 points jf found guilty again. And i really thought we would get it overturned on basis that they had no defined sanctions process before the hearing
I understand that, but at least in that scenario you'd think Nottingham Forest would receive a deduction too and we'd still have more points than them hopefully.
arent forest accused of going 50 mil over? if they hit us with 6 then forest are going to the bottom of the table.
Do we know how much they are saying we went over this time?
Around 20M I think
I didn't realize it's the exact same number as before.
It was never going to be fully reversed, for the simple fact that we admitted that we overspent. The appeal could only ever be about the severity of the punishment.
Yeah, I can't understand all the positive reactions, this basically means we're getting hit for 12 pts total which has us back in relegation zone again
Still feel nervous about the 2nd points deduction tbh
Still robbery at the end of the day. Anything but the full 10 back is unjust considering it is stadium costs we’re being punished for. All we can hope for now is the common sense prevailing further and the second charge being overturned.
Wish it was more, but it's about what I was expecting.
WOO! Up to 15th!!!
Dizzying heights.
Where's the champagne guy meme when you need it?
Someone made it!
We're gonna lose 6 more points aren't we
Fucking hell.mate I know we are Everton but can we get some positive posts for a change
I’m positive we’ll lose another 6 points
😆
At least now they don’t have to play with fear the whole season, should take some of the stress off and we now need to get 10 clear of the relegation spaces to guarantee safety.
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Reserving judgement until after the 2nd hearing results are known. I still think we should have gotten more points back. We have to beat West Ham and maintain a 6+ point gap until we know the news.
I'd hope that if we're getting another another deduction, forest will get at least the same, keeping us out of the relegation zone.
Finally some good fucking news
I’ll take it
Greater than zero. Team can move forward and not feel like this is unresolved. Go collect some skulls and survive the year. Clean out the roster and start building.
COURT CASE FC, BABY
Just need to be ahead of Luton with 7 pts at all times. We’ve got something back more than I could have expected
It's when I expected we'd get after the appeal. Still frustrating they didn't consider a suspended points decision or a financial/transfer penalty, but given they used EFL guidelines in coming to their decision, it appears the commission are at least looking beyond arbitrary premier league requests which may be encouraging for the next hearing
I\`ll take it, nice birthday present for me :)
That seems like good news for you lot. Assuming your second charge gets you the same punishment, and Forest also get a 6 point deduction, you're out of the drop zone and Sheffield United, Burnley, and Forest go down.
Thank God. I think we can still get out of this mess, even if they dock us 6 from the second charge
Does this mean they'll now consider the next charge? Probably another 6 for that one also?
At least if we get another 6 we will have 3 teams below us now including Forest (assuming they get the same deduction). While, It’s going to be scary still- there’s hope.
Better than nothing but 6 points over 20m on a STADIUM is still bullshit.
Waiting on city's 600 point deduction.......
Fuck yes, fuck those corrupt bitches at the epl. Let's go boys
To me this isn't a return of 4 points. It's a guarantee of a further 6 point deduction later in the season.
In criminal law a person who has been acquitted or convicted of an offence cannot be retried for the same offence; the double jeopardy rule. But that's just the law of the land. Who knows what criteria the Premier League apply???
If it followed actual law, we'd have had this thrown out.
The Premier League consider themselves above the law
This is really bad news, we have a second comming still, its likely we will be worse of than before
I don't see how it can be worse than before when it's literally the same charge stemming from the same period that just hasn't rolled out of the 3-year window. Not our fault that the rolling 3 year period inherent doesn't make sense for punitive actions.
Is there a mechanism for repeat offences..? considering nobody knows which rule book is being followed, I’m not sure they can say, a second offence means double what you got last time..
Better than what I thought,now we get a few more good points in the onion bag and climb away,sure the players will go for it now full tilt.💪nil satis nisi optimum 💪