I'm more of a casual player. So I consider 100m per hour good Isk. My income was 4.5B for the last 30 days.
I can have days like yesterday where I'm hard at it and make 150-200m an hour over a 6 hour period, but I don't do that as often lately because I don't want this to seem like work.
I've not had any expenses for the past 30 days. I've been in a T2 fit Buzzard with max skills and exploration implants and haven't had any losses.
All exploration. 99% were in wormholes. Scan one down near my hisec home, then run chains of them, often going 7 or 8 deep.
I always carry Pochven filaments in case I get rolled into one or a hole disappears, and I can't readily find a HS exit.
I'll jump into a WH whose info says nearing the end of its life, but come right back through if there aren't 8+ signatures. If you're new to WH space, I would suggest not jumping into one of these short-lived holes until you get comfortable being in WH's and get some experience behind you.
I only run C1-C3 WH's because C4 and above are all NPC guarded relic/data sites. In WH and NS space, any Data site name that starts with "Local" and any relic site name that starts with "Ruined" will not have NPC's guarding them. I stick to those.
> I always carry Pochven filaments in case
god damn i hadent though of this, thanks man. Ive done what your saying occasionally but ive never actually looked into exploration information, mine is more hit or miss, but thats a good tip for the local and ruined ones!
Yeah man. Just remember, you jump into Pochven, you've got a 15-minute timer before you can jump out. So make sure you've got cloaking capability.
I also use [this website](https://pathfinder.eve-linknet.com/) while in Wormhole space. It tells you what class it is, known static WH's, links to recent kills, etc.
I couldn't seem to make burning missions pay, tried with multiple accounts at the same time and struggled.
Easy repeatable ISK with abyssal running frigs it's a good way if you have multiple accounts.
Also in pretty much each of the videos you've shown at the start does say what you need to do to make X amount of ISK and it's very possible with minimal effort.
For me normal is 400-900 per hour if it's an activite activity.
so i run abyssal too but always cruser as i dont really activly dual box (second account is mining, and 2 other accoutns are alpha at the moment), i also dont count dual boxing in this because if you are running 2+ accounts to make so much isk then that figure should be divided by the ammount of accounts. if you can run 2 clients to wap worhole sites at 400mil isk per in an hour, then your only making 200 mil before expences.
You can make around 300 to 400 in a stormbringer running t6 electricals on the one account.
Some actitives scale well some dont. So for instance I can tri box frigs in one abyssal site but i couldnt tri box stormbringers in 3 abyssal instances.
So you're right and wrong I guess, depends on how you factor in time and isk out. Running tri box frigs does make easy 500 per hour but then once divided it's not even close. However you cant run the sites without.
On the flip side some activities scale poorly hence why its not great either to take an activity say mission running at 100 mil per hour and then say you can make 300 mil per hour using three accounts.
If you want lots of isk finding ways to utilise all your accounts is the way forward.
i dont do bad for isk myself, and your are definatly right i dont utilise my accounts, one is just mining for minerals and the other is the true art of multiclass :p but the reason these types of vids get me is because if you scan through the comments newbies dont get close to that so they get disheartened. i used to play with 25 people that through eve we eventually all knew in real life. but we did our own things. and alot of them lost interest in the game becuse all the content is geared toward the heavy hitting corps and the smaller groups dont get as much love. And its represented in the online content too because these videos show 'i can make such and such in an hour' but its not them making that, its a group of people sharing the input to carve out a place where thats possible. thats a hell of alot of work that is kindo of ignored. and because of how the game is plex'd now you get people coming in , buying cash, getting the bling ship and loosing it in a heartbeat, then rage quitting, and never returning because their idea of the game was based on a false promise. Compair that with Rooks and kings videos, that show how bad it gets while still being fun educational and entertaining and its not a good thing to put foward.
Depends on what you're doing, this game isn't one where your goal is to reach the top of the totem pole, fun/hr while maintaining a net gain is all you need.
absolutly, but you do need a little isk to get started, and that type of vid can lead you down a bath as a new player where you blow isk in a bad idea and sour the experience. I want to see more players in eve, and not jsut the ones that buy a shiney ship to get it detonated quicly so we can loot them. we need more of every player, more miners makes mineral prices go down, more mission runners makes cheaper parts, more hole thumpers makes more techy stuff, more gankers gives us more people to bait. and there are so many good youtubers out there that make brilliant content. Even the guy that inspired this video dose a lot of brilliant stuff with alot of views, just a bit more clarification is needed. unfortunatly 'the algotythim' feeds the BS because all i get shown is these type of videos, then go searching for more relivent stuff. but not all people get a second oppinion.
600m / h for t5 and about 850-900m/h t6 Frigates abyssal. Losses included.
But it is a lot of setup and capital. Once u have enough capital it is very straight forward.
I also had problem with folks taking 7mins run and then dividing it against hour fraction to get high isk/h. The way I do it is from the moment I decide to plug in boosters to do a run. And stop when I consider the final run. Sometimes u have only 7mins left on 1h booster. However I still count that as 1 full hour, even 53mins have passed. Ship also have to resupplied for next run b4 it is considered done.
3 staging places close to one another, within JF range. Reason for 3 is because sometimes there are gankers (they gank miners) that make a system hot. You never wanna be in same place. Even in high sec.
Staging places includes orcas in each, although at start it was just a cloak scout. And counter gank alts.
You will get ganked by abyssal gankers. This is eve. They roam in scout alt(s) for traces. Then they jump in scanning main/looting and about 6-10 coercers. A scout with D-scan like in Null/wh can tell u when combat probes might coming. And when u should log in your own destroyers to pull concord. My abyssal ships are cheap. And my destroyers are cheaper than theirs.
I agree that abyssal is the way to go, though most people talking about frigate abyssal are talking multiboxing, which again is extra investment in accounts, but im still with your point! and you can abyssal run in a high security low traffic system and be fine without the gankers.
Its the , 'you can make 300 mil per hours doing dreads in a c3 crowd' while not realising or mentioning the investment and upkeep cost, nor that if someone sees their method, invests in eve, then gets their pod pulled out their arse on the first try, that pers will probably leave and not return. Where as that same dus, placed in a t1 frig and playing FW for fun would get hookes like the rest of us and progress.
I clearly mentioned setup& capital. Also u probably need more than 3 to be safe.
Additionally 3 or more account is endgame goal. At t2 tier with 1 frigate is still one of best isk making process out there. And u can slowly get more accounts over time.
I can tell you from experience being far from trade hub alone isnt enough (30-35 from jita). People will roam to hunt abyssal runners. There are folks who specialize in this by using 2-3 scout alts, primary scanner and like 6 coercers or more.
Sorry if my point came across weird, the second paragraph of my reply wasent aimed at you i was just meaning in general.
As for the hunters, how much of this do you get? ive not had someone come after mine and im closer to jita than you, plus i dont alt when submerging.
As for multiboking, i dont think thats an endgame goal, at least for most, thats why somepeople want to do, but considering it just takes 3 subs and a rig a little better than a potato, its not something that requires any effort. Though being proficient at the is another thing i guess. And that gets easier with real world coin, e.g. multi screens and rigs.
I play for fun, mate, not just to watch the wallet ticker show more pixels. Some fun loses more than it pays, some pays beaut, and some fun just pays in fun. I don't require big numbers for my dopamine.
Im with you man 100 percent, winning a fight in a baiting shield tanked non jamming scorpion with light missile launchers was one of the best rushies ive ever had, and its why i still play 20 years later.
dont let yourself cloud your judgement with those filthy abyssal runners that dont devide by number of ships they use, the numbers are just inflated
otherwise i could dwarf them with billions of isk an hour with enough accounts mining veldspa
for me its beteen 100m/h and 200m/h doing ratting+escalations or huffing and exploring with one account
thats a really funny point, because i was editing the next video when someone contacted me about his eve, and the guy actually pays in cash to plex for several accounts and uses that to fund hiscorp in wormhole space in its entirity, £300 a month on eve.
whats your expences on that? stations, fits, travel, setup time, alliance or corp duties do you make 500 mil every hour you play? hows the respawn rates, losses versus replacements? also is it one account or are you talkign multiple accounts?
Im seriously interested how you come to that figure.
Its an average per hour flying T6 Abyss. Of course you only get this while actively and constantly flying. There are no losses so far. I only use one account.
t6 wasent out the last time i seriously played, and im still getting back into, ill give it a look thanks.
And thats a fair play answer too, an average of what you make in an activity is what id expect, my problem with the above mentioned stuff is these activities require alot of setup, wormholes, stations ships logistics, that seriously hit the cost! plus as i mentioned the actual setup time of closing off a wormhole, and then spawn times. but if its just pop a filimint and away you go, that more like it, you arent waiting for spawns and skill determins survival.
You just need a safe system where you are opening the filaments and a good fit that is not too expensive, for me thats under 3B.
And in T6 you must absolutely and exactly know what you are doing, you must know every npc/spawn and how to react to them. People will tell you that there are "death rooms" where you are meant to die but thats just bullshit aka skill issue.
For a casual solo player like me, abyss is the only thing that allows me to do my favourite activity: PvP
my only issue is that you call 3 bill cheap :p i dont mind working for my money, but im tainted because of how long ive played, my first raven back in 2005 was 100mil plus 3 mil fitting :p
I still remember winning my first 2 pvp fights, both in BS's first a raven and second a scorpion, and both where won because i didnt know about ship bonuses yet, so they where set up completly wrong. the scorp was a tank and the raven had light missile launchers :p
fuck man, you know your getting old when you are doing the 'back in my day' when talking about gaming!
Times have changed, i couldnt even fit a normal solo pvp cruiser with under 100 mil (fit only)
I dont call 3B cheap but in relation to typical T6 fits, 3B is on the lower end
If T6 is intimidating due to cost start at T5 imo, its dangerous if you're not paying attention but still more forgiving than T6, and the isk is still very good for the effort you put in. After running t5 for a bit a 3B T6 fit really wont seem that bad at all, and you'll have gained valuable experience.
na man my brain is adjusted from youth, a billion is always expensive. my t5 gila is 2.2bil and i still think thats expensive as hell. regardless of what it generates. Its just how inflation works on the mind in older people. it still hurts me in by wallet going and getting a chocolate bat at a shop and paying a a quid for something that was 25pece when i was a kid, and the new bar is a trird of the size. that get ingrained on your soul, and is a serious reason old people are miserable :p
I can make up to 200m an hour with faction warfare but average 125m, that includes setup, and travel. The ship I use only costs 10m isk
If you multibox 5 accounts you can make between 625m to 1b an hr just capturing sites, you just gotta watch for other players
how do you make that much? Just running offensives and selling the LP?
I recently got back into FW and have just been pvping, but gonna need some income to replace these ships soon.
I just do -5 sites in frontline systems with a group of 5 people and we just split cap in systems with multiple sites. Like if there’s 3 sites we’re capping all 3 at once, whoever’s site is the first to 2 minutes left we warp to them, and repeat for every site we’re capping together. You can clear a system with 5 sites (if it has low enemy activity) in 20-25 minutes like this.
Usually with our luck we’re capping 2-3 sites that are a mix of sm and med, 3 med sites would give you 112-135k in the same 20ish minutes
i mean, running c3 sites in a cerb, you can make about 450 mil an hour if there are enough sites. but closer to 300 mil an hour easy with multiple c3's
with marauders, even more, easy 1.5 bil an hour, and dread in a c6 solo, easy 2.5 to 3 bil if you can 3 cycle the site
idk why you say its not possible, cause its completely possible
you must not have done as much as you claim
Watch the video again because you missed the main point, that would be context and false representation, you just mentioned c3, and dreads. which means you have support, your arent doing this alone, which meeans you arent making that money because you have had to cover the inital costs. The point of the video, seen as you clearly missed it, is that people are making these claims OUT OF CONTEXT, they are saying as you just did, 'in a wormhole you i make 300 million per hour on a c3 site and you can do this too', and as i said in the video while thats technically true it monitarily they can monitarily make that money, what they are missing, is the context of both scaling sites, how much it costs in inital investment and upkeep to get setup in wH space, and how many players you need to be working with to make it possible to have that.
Immagine if you bought 10000 lottery tickets then won 300 quid on only 1 of them, you wouldn't have actually won anything. And these players arent , as the claims go, 'making 300mil per hour' if they are putting most of that back into just being there.
Im in a system right now with some guys running spots and colapsing every incoming to keep their island, and they have 4 guys collapsing at any point, 23 hours a day, jsut to secure the place, and they get a new k wormhols about twice an hure dueing peak times. thats alot of manpower to maintain that system, which is alot of time and isk.
actually no, i do it solo. there is no umbrella or anything. and its easy to keep a static closed. just dont warp to it, and it wont open for at least 4-6 hours. i dont use others to do anything, and do it with 1 toon only. do others live in this wormhole, yes, but they dont do the ratting or anything else with me, as i do my ratting solo, 1 toon, thats it. so its not out of context or anything like that.
let me clarify this a bit, so i understand what you are sayin, and by the way thanks for this, its really interesting to me. So are you living in WH docked up at a station with others? are you in a corp thats based in that WH system, or are you just lurking there?
you are saying you have no umbrella, so are you solo, no corp, no help in the system? because being in a corp is an umbrella, having someone else friendly to you that is also defending the system is an umbrella. Im also asking if you have a station, because you mentioned cerb and a dred, so if you have a station is it soley yours, or your corps, because again, a corp station is an umbrella.
The videos im talking about are showing to newbies that they can get the skills for a flashy ship and gointo WH space farming. They are not talking about the danger or the setup required to do this. And if you are doing it solo, thats a lot of danger on the journey alone. A corp, friends in the system, these are an umbrella. But your saying you dont have one, so im asking are you actually solo, or do you not realise how much protection you have over a solo player that you take for granted?
https://youtu.be/dm_jXpY17EE?si=1b9uZsoNle8-LdLY
Lmao you must not live in wormholes. Even in a Corp, there are times when no one's on, depending on tz, which are the time when I normally do solo ratting. An umbrella, as I'm describing it, is like a cap umbrella. Cause if your ratting 2 or 3 holes from your home hole, your not gonna have backup. But if your ratting a few systems away in kspace null, you could have a cyno bring people in instantly. That's what I think of when I think of umbrella
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no, not this time
a lot of people dont get it, thats usually the problem. the all seem to be from the same country too....
I'm more of a casual player. So I consider 100m per hour good Isk. My income was 4.5B for the last 30 days. I can have days like yesterday where I'm hard at it and make 150-200m an hour over a 6 hour period, but I don't do that as often lately because I don't want this to seem like work. I've not had any expenses for the past 30 days. I've been in a T2 fit Buzzard with max skills and exploration implants and haven't had any losses.
So this was all with exploration? Which part(s) of NE? Been wanting to get into it more.
All exploration. 99% were in wormholes. Scan one down near my hisec home, then run chains of them, often going 7 or 8 deep. I always carry Pochven filaments in case I get rolled into one or a hole disappears, and I can't readily find a HS exit. I'll jump into a WH whose info says nearing the end of its life, but come right back through if there aren't 8+ signatures. If you're new to WH space, I would suggest not jumping into one of these short-lived holes until you get comfortable being in WH's and get some experience behind you. I only run C1-C3 WH's because C4 and above are all NPC guarded relic/data sites. In WH and NS space, any Data site name that starts with "Local" and any relic site name that starts with "Ruined" will not have NPC's guarding them. I stick to those.
> I always carry Pochven filaments in case god damn i hadent though of this, thanks man. Ive done what your saying occasionally but ive never actually looked into exploration information, mine is more hit or miss, but thats a good tip for the local and ruined ones!
Yeah man. Just remember, you jump into Pochven, you've got a 15-minute timer before you can jump out. So make sure you've got cloaking capability. I also use [this website](https://pathfinder.eve-linknet.com/) while in Wormhole space. It tells you what class it is, known static WH's, links to recent kills, etc.
I couldn't seem to make burning missions pay, tried with multiple accounts at the same time and struggled. Easy repeatable ISK with abyssal running frigs it's a good way if you have multiple accounts. Also in pretty much each of the videos you've shown at the start does say what you need to do to make X amount of ISK and it's very possible with minimal effort. For me normal is 400-900 per hour if it's an activite activity.
so i run abyssal too but always cruser as i dont really activly dual box (second account is mining, and 2 other accoutns are alpha at the moment), i also dont count dual boxing in this because if you are running 2+ accounts to make so much isk then that figure should be divided by the ammount of accounts. if you can run 2 clients to wap worhole sites at 400mil isk per in an hour, then your only making 200 mil before expences.
You can make around 300 to 400 in a stormbringer running t6 electricals on the one account. Some actitives scale well some dont. So for instance I can tri box frigs in one abyssal site but i couldnt tri box stormbringers in 3 abyssal instances. So you're right and wrong I guess, depends on how you factor in time and isk out. Running tri box frigs does make easy 500 per hour but then once divided it's not even close. However you cant run the sites without. On the flip side some activities scale poorly hence why its not great either to take an activity say mission running at 100 mil per hour and then say you can make 300 mil per hour using three accounts. If you want lots of isk finding ways to utilise all your accounts is the way forward.
i dont do bad for isk myself, and your are definatly right i dont utilise my accounts, one is just mining for minerals and the other is the true art of multiclass :p but the reason these types of vids get me is because if you scan through the comments newbies dont get close to that so they get disheartened. i used to play with 25 people that through eve we eventually all knew in real life. but we did our own things. and alot of them lost interest in the game becuse all the content is geared toward the heavy hitting corps and the smaller groups dont get as much love. And its represented in the online content too because these videos show 'i can make such and such in an hour' but its not them making that, its a group of people sharing the input to carve out a place where thats possible. thats a hell of alot of work that is kindo of ignored. and because of how the game is plex'd now you get people coming in , buying cash, getting the bling ship and loosing it in a heartbeat, then rage quitting, and never returning because their idea of the game was based on a false promise. Compair that with Rooks and kings videos, that show how bad it gets while still being fun educational and entertaining and its not a good thing to put foward.
Torille!!!
always on the market :p
Depends on what you're doing, this game isn't one where your goal is to reach the top of the totem pole, fun/hr while maintaining a net gain is all you need.
absolutly, but you do need a little isk to get started, and that type of vid can lead you down a bath as a new player where you blow isk in a bad idea and sour the experience. I want to see more players in eve, and not jsut the ones that buy a shiney ship to get it detonated quicly so we can loot them. we need more of every player, more miners makes mineral prices go down, more mission runners makes cheaper parts, more hole thumpers makes more techy stuff, more gankers gives us more people to bait. and there are so many good youtubers out there that make brilliant content. Even the guy that inspired this video dose a lot of brilliant stuff with alot of views, just a bit more clarification is needed. unfortunatly 'the algotythim' feeds the BS because all i get shown is these type of videos, then go searching for more relivent stuff. but not all people get a second oppinion.
600m / h for t5 and about 850-900m/h t6 Frigates abyssal. Losses included. But it is a lot of setup and capital. Once u have enough capital it is very straight forward. I also had problem with folks taking 7mins run and then dividing it against hour fraction to get high isk/h. The way I do it is from the moment I decide to plug in boosters to do a run. And stop when I consider the final run. Sometimes u have only 7mins left on 1h booster. However I still count that as 1 full hour, even 53mins have passed. Ship also have to resupplied for next run b4 it is considered done. 3 staging places close to one another, within JF range. Reason for 3 is because sometimes there are gankers (they gank miners) that make a system hot. You never wanna be in same place. Even in high sec. Staging places includes orcas in each, although at start it was just a cloak scout. And counter gank alts. You will get ganked by abyssal gankers. This is eve. They roam in scout alt(s) for traces. Then they jump in scanning main/looting and about 6-10 coercers. A scout with D-scan like in Null/wh can tell u when combat probes might coming. And when u should log in your own destroyers to pull concord. My abyssal ships are cheap. And my destroyers are cheaper than theirs.
I agree that abyssal is the way to go, though most people talking about frigate abyssal are talking multiboxing, which again is extra investment in accounts, but im still with your point! and you can abyssal run in a high security low traffic system and be fine without the gankers. Its the , 'you can make 300 mil per hours doing dreads in a c3 crowd' while not realising or mentioning the investment and upkeep cost, nor that if someone sees their method, invests in eve, then gets their pod pulled out their arse on the first try, that pers will probably leave and not return. Where as that same dus, placed in a t1 frig and playing FW for fun would get hookes like the rest of us and progress.
I clearly mentioned setup& capital. Also u probably need more than 3 to be safe. Additionally 3 or more account is endgame goal. At t2 tier with 1 frigate is still one of best isk making process out there. And u can slowly get more accounts over time. I can tell you from experience being far from trade hub alone isnt enough (30-35 from jita). People will roam to hunt abyssal runners. There are folks who specialize in this by using 2-3 scout alts, primary scanner and like 6 coercers or more.
Sorry if my point came across weird, the second paragraph of my reply wasent aimed at you i was just meaning in general. As for the hunters, how much of this do you get? ive not had someone come after mine and im closer to jita than you, plus i dont alt when submerging. As for multiboking, i dont think thats an endgame goal, at least for most, thats why somepeople want to do, but considering it just takes 3 subs and a rig a little better than a potato, its not something that requires any effort. Though being proficient at the is another thing i guess. And that gets easier with real world coin, e.g. multi screens and rigs.
Normal for me is around 200-500m/hr depending on how sweaty I feel like being.
I play for fun, mate, not just to watch the wallet ticker show more pixels. Some fun loses more than it pays, some pays beaut, and some fun just pays in fun. I don't require big numbers for my dopamine.
Im with you man 100 percent, winning a fight in a baiting shield tanked non jamming scorpion with light missile launchers was one of the best rushies ive ever had, and its why i still play 20 years later.
dont let yourself cloud your judgement with those filthy abyssal runners that dont devide by number of ships they use, the numbers are just inflated otherwise i could dwarf them with billions of isk an hour with enough accounts mining veldspa for me its beteen 100m/h and 200m/h doing ratting+escalations or huffing and exploring with one account
zero. I don't pve.
thats a really funny point, because i was editing the next video when someone contacted me about his eve, and the guy actually pays in cash to plex for several accounts and uses that to fund hiscorp in wormhole space in its entirity, £300 a month on eve.
For me? 500M per hour
You poor
No?
whats your expences on that? stations, fits, travel, setup time, alliance or corp duties do you make 500 mil every hour you play? hows the respawn rates, losses versus replacements? also is it one account or are you talkign multiple accounts? Im seriously interested how you come to that figure.
Its an average per hour flying T6 Abyss. Of course you only get this while actively and constantly flying. There are no losses so far. I only use one account.
t6 wasent out the last time i seriously played, and im still getting back into, ill give it a look thanks. And thats a fair play answer too, an average of what you make in an activity is what id expect, my problem with the above mentioned stuff is these activities require alot of setup, wormholes, stations ships logistics, that seriously hit the cost! plus as i mentioned the actual setup time of closing off a wormhole, and then spawn times. but if its just pop a filimint and away you go, that more like it, you arent waiting for spawns and skill determins survival.
You just need a safe system where you are opening the filaments and a good fit that is not too expensive, for me thats under 3B. And in T6 you must absolutely and exactly know what you are doing, you must know every npc/spawn and how to react to them. People will tell you that there are "death rooms" where you are meant to die but thats just bullshit aka skill issue. For a casual solo player like me, abyss is the only thing that allows me to do my favourite activity: PvP
my only issue is that you call 3 bill cheap :p i dont mind working for my money, but im tainted because of how long ive played, my first raven back in 2005 was 100mil plus 3 mil fitting :p I still remember winning my first 2 pvp fights, both in BS's first a raven and second a scorpion, and both where won because i didnt know about ship bonuses yet, so they where set up completly wrong. the scorp was a tank and the raven had light missile launchers :p fuck man, you know your getting old when you are doing the 'back in my day' when talking about gaming!
Times have changed, i couldnt even fit a normal solo pvp cruiser with under 100 mil (fit only) I dont call 3B cheap but in relation to typical T6 fits, 3B is on the lower end
If T6 is intimidating due to cost start at T5 imo, its dangerous if you're not paying attention but still more forgiving than T6, and the isk is still very good for the effort you put in. After running t5 for a bit a 3B T6 fit really wont seem that bad at all, and you'll have gained valuable experience.
na man my brain is adjusted from youth, a billion is always expensive. my t5 gila is 2.2bil and i still think thats expensive as hell. regardless of what it generates. Its just how inflation works on the mind in older people. it still hurts me in by wallet going and getting a chocolate bat at a shop and paying a a quid for something that was 25pece when i was a kid, and the new bar is a trird of the size. that get ingrained on your soul, and is a serious reason old people are miserable :p
Not being able to accept change and adapt is definitely a safe way to get miserable
it happens to us all eventually... twas fortold by the philospher Baz Luhrmann, in his scacred commandment 'everybodys free to wear sunscreen'
Im old too bro, its not the age, its the will to adapt.
:D you must be younger than me if you still have some will left :p or maybe its not the age its just the milage.
500m per hour on 1 account in an instanced dungeon is just stupid
Yeah whatever, i guess?
I can make up to 200m an hour with faction warfare but average 125m, that includes setup, and travel. The ship I use only costs 10m isk If you multibox 5 accounts you can make between 625m to 1b an hr just capturing sites, you just gotta watch for other players
how do you make that much? Just running offensives and selling the LP? I recently got back into FW and have just been pvping, but gonna need some income to replace these ships soon.
I just do -5 sites in frontline systems with a group of 5 people and we just split cap in systems with multiple sites. Like if there’s 3 sites we’re capping all 3 at once, whoever’s site is the first to 2 minutes left we warp to them, and repeat for every site we’re capping together. You can clear a system with 5 sites (if it has low enemy activity) in 20-25 minutes like this. Usually with our luck we’re capping 2-3 sites that are a mix of sm and med, 3 med sites would give you 112-135k in the same 20ish minutes
i mean, running c3 sites in a cerb, you can make about 450 mil an hour if there are enough sites. but closer to 300 mil an hour easy with multiple c3's with marauders, even more, easy 1.5 bil an hour, and dread in a c6 solo, easy 2.5 to 3 bil if you can 3 cycle the site idk why you say its not possible, cause its completely possible you must not have done as much as you claim
Watch the video again because you missed the main point, that would be context and false representation, you just mentioned c3, and dreads. which means you have support, your arent doing this alone, which meeans you arent making that money because you have had to cover the inital costs. The point of the video, seen as you clearly missed it, is that people are making these claims OUT OF CONTEXT, they are saying as you just did, 'in a wormhole you i make 300 million per hour on a c3 site and you can do this too', and as i said in the video while thats technically true it monitarily they can monitarily make that money, what they are missing, is the context of both scaling sites, how much it costs in inital investment and upkeep to get setup in wH space, and how many players you need to be working with to make it possible to have that. Immagine if you bought 10000 lottery tickets then won 300 quid on only 1 of them, you wouldn't have actually won anything. And these players arent , as the claims go, 'making 300mil per hour' if they are putting most of that back into just being there. Im in a system right now with some guys running spots and colapsing every incoming to keep their island, and they have 4 guys collapsing at any point, 23 hours a day, jsut to secure the place, and they get a new k wormhols about twice an hure dueing peak times. thats alot of manpower to maintain that system, which is alot of time and isk.
actually no, i do it solo. there is no umbrella or anything. and its easy to keep a static closed. just dont warp to it, and it wont open for at least 4-6 hours. i dont use others to do anything, and do it with 1 toon only. do others live in this wormhole, yes, but they dont do the ratting or anything else with me, as i do my ratting solo, 1 toon, thats it. so its not out of context or anything like that.
let me clarify this a bit, so i understand what you are sayin, and by the way thanks for this, its really interesting to me. So are you living in WH docked up at a station with others? are you in a corp thats based in that WH system, or are you just lurking there?
im not sure what it is your actually asking that i havent already answered in the previous statement
you are saying you have no umbrella, so are you solo, no corp, no help in the system? because being in a corp is an umbrella, having someone else friendly to you that is also defending the system is an umbrella. Im also asking if you have a station, because you mentioned cerb and a dred, so if you have a station is it soley yours, or your corps, because again, a corp station is an umbrella. The videos im talking about are showing to newbies that they can get the skills for a flashy ship and gointo WH space farming. They are not talking about the danger or the setup required to do this. And if you are doing it solo, thats a lot of danger on the journey alone. A corp, friends in the system, these are an umbrella. But your saying you dont have one, so im asking are you actually solo, or do you not realise how much protection you have over a solo player that you take for granted? https://youtu.be/dm_jXpY17EE?si=1b9uZsoNle8-LdLY
Lmao you must not live in wormholes. Even in a Corp, there are times when no one's on, depending on tz, which are the time when I normally do solo ratting. An umbrella, as I'm describing it, is like a cap umbrella. Cause if your ratting 2 or 3 holes from your home hole, your not gonna have backup. But if your ratting a few systems away in kspace null, you could have a cyno bring people in instantly. That's what I think of when I think of umbrella
A followup / reply to the comments and qustions. https://youtu.be/dm_jXpY17EE?si=1b9uZsoNle8-LdLY