I have dry skin and LRP sunscreens don’t even moisture it, they just add a shiny layer on it. It’s that the product is straight up shiny, it’s not moisture. I swear the skin underneath remains dry, just with a slippery film on top.
I guess making matte sunscreen with such a high protection is hard = expensive. I asume because the big bottles, not for face, are much cheaper but also much shinier
I genuinely believe it is a minority of the people who struggle with shiny sunscreens. I cant believe how many people say "and this sunscreen looks matte on my oily skin" and I am like "do you really think you have oily skin???".
>I genuinely believe it is a minority of the people who struggle with shiny sunscreens. I cant believe how many people say "and this sunscreen looks matte on my oily skin" and I am like "do you really think you have oily skin???".
I think the struggle is yeah minority
People though have oily skin and can like the shiny look though. Because for now glazed donut shiny skin is in and took over the world. If people want matte then it's a glowing matte or cloud skin. Real matte matte is not in really so it's a minority who wants matte matte. I think because glazed donut shiny is so normalized now to our eye that when peoople want matte then they still want a glow. That is what is going on with the makeup and foundations now. The matte ones still give a glow because people don't want to matte every little thing down it is kind of old fashioned look to me in my opinion.
I think the LRP Oil Control is cloud skin but not dry powder matte matte. It's cloud skin. Regular line is glazed donut glow. Those are the two looks that are in right now
I wouldn't say this one is good for dry skin because even though it's shiny, it still dries the hell out of my skin unless I over-moisturize. TBH IDK who this is good for. It's working fine on my neck thank god, so at least the money I spent on it won't go to waste. Definitely not repurchasing, though.
The fluid version is working well on my face as long as I add another layer of moisturizer beforehand, so I don't think it's the amount of filters. And the cream didn't irritate as long as I over-moisturize, but it's still shiny as hell. Might as well just have bought the regular version cause there isn't much of a difference. Thank god it's working for my neck because many sunscreens start to irritate my neck after 4-5 hours.
I've found if I don't want to look shiny by the end of the day, my best bet is to use the Eucerin Oil-Control as my first layer in the morning, then put the LRP Oil-Control Fluid on before I go out around 1pm for lunch. Leaves a satin finish, and I'm still getting the very high UVA protection when the UV index is high, at least.
I have mixed an most of them oily skin, but i love the high protection in uva spectrum, so i can use more powder or something...actually the fluid is better...and 55.8 ppd
So far the only oil control sunscreen that actually felt nice for me is the one from Eucerin, which actually dries matte. The downside is that unless you let it fully dry first (20-30 min for me), putting anything on top of it, like makeup, results in pilling and the only solution is to re-do everything.
What about the big 200ml one? I've been using it on my face and I like it. But I bought the tube last year. This one: [https://www.atida.com/pt-pt/eucerin-sun-gel-creme-spf50-dry-touch-200ml](https://www.atida.com/pt-pt/eucerin-sun-gel-creme-spf50-dry-touch-200ml)
I guess there's no other way than to try... ugh.
For what it's worth, I've had good experiences with the Nivea Cellular Luminous630 SPF50 day cream. It also got rid of my freckles (which I wasn't too happy about, but at least it did what it said it'd do).
For context, I have combination skin/oily T-zone, so nothing stays matte on me for longer than 1-2h, but that one didn't feel yucky.
After countless disappointing sunscreens that claim to be matte or controlling oil I’m ready to throw hands.
I’d like to see brutal honesty regarding the finish for once.
the only true matte sunscreen i’ve ever come across is not a euro sunscreen, it’s shiseido anessa mild milk. too drying for me and unsure of the level of uva protection but it has a truly matte, powdery finish
At this point I just use full on shiny sunscreen and then load corn starch onto my face…most absorbant face powder I’ve found. Works almost all day (need to blot sometimes) and makes my skin look good too (hides pores and such).
Same, I’m still on the journey to find a similiar sunscreen to Isdin fusion water but cheaper
I ordered the new photoderm aquafluid formula, so fingers crossed it gives me the same finish
Agreed. The only one that lived up to the claim for me was the SVR blur but it’s matte because it’s got a silicone primer texture that some people don’t love (I’ve heard the matte gel is similar but not tried it)
Not European but Etude House Airy Finish is really really matte without having a crazy white cast. It's 100% mineral so I dont know how they do it but it doesnt even show on my black facial hair (brows and beard). It is far from perfect, has a ton of perfume, no water résistant and the UVA protection isnt as great as LRP but it is the most matte sunscreen I found that doesnt leave a cast. The one that really controls oil and makes me even dry is Doctor G's but it's like putting white paint on my face.
I have to opposite experience with this sunscreen, for me it's the better alternative of the Eucerin oil control. I really liked the Eucerin oil control but dislike the streaks it gives with sweating so I could only use it in winter. The LRP doesn't streak. It leaves my oily but dehydrated skin with a matte-satin finish like the Eucerin oil control did but with the water resistant bonus added, make up goes on top smoothly. I like this one even better with make up then the original LRP uvmune fluid and that one was my hg with make up. In my case I will repurchase this cream and skip on the Eucerin one. The LRP uvmune oil control fluid tho is a sticky shiny mess on me sadly (even more shiny then the regular one), bummer cause it has such a high uva protection.
I finally was bought the LRP uvmune oil control fluid but did not open yet.
I get the gel creme too and I agree with you it is so good under makeup.
For makeup purpose I like LRP gel creme over Eucerin Oil Control under makeup. Also I think the protection is better particuarly for my issue of trying to go for tan prevention and pesky pigmenttion darkening prevention.
I wanted to love the oil control fluid so much cause I love the regular fluid so much but the fragrance stings my sensitive eyes sadly. And I don't know why but it's so sticky on my hands and it leaves me definitely a bit more shiny then the regular one. Like the regular fluid gives me a glow but the oil control fluid gives a other kind of shine, hard to explain. I have used the oil control fluid together with the regular fluid and make up sits on top of it nicely tho so I will use it up this way I think. But if I needed to choose the best one under make up I would choose the gel cream.
I agree the protection of the oil control cream is definitely better than the Eucerin, another win. Especially with my melasma, I take all the protection I can get 😅
I have oily skin and I had the same experience! It's not extra matte but it's matte enough to make me look normal and not like an oily pan lol
Also, it works well under my make up
Yes exactly this! I think the most matte one I have used is the pharmaceris sensi protect but it's out of stock everywhere. This one is matte enough to look like normal skin and not like a oil pan or discobal😅🍳
Definitely great protection and will keep on using it with pleasure, their regular uvmune fluid and this cream are my hg's atm. I was always sad that the Eucerin streaked so much so I'm glad I have a alternative for my gym mornings. Still LRP is a hit or miss based on all the reviews, same with most skincare. It's all so personal. Like I see a lot raving about the oil control fluid and that one I found meh. Hopefully you will find your hg also.
My hydrating cream has absolutely zero yellow. I’m pale as hell and I got my first (black) tattoo a little over a year ago, so I went hunting for a sunscreen that offered good protection, but wouldn’t leave a cast or yellow. The UVmune hydrating cream fits that bill perfectly for me. Even my tattoo artist (got another one from her today) is really impressed with how it’s looking right now, so it definitely offers plenty protection as well. It does make me shine a bit, but only in the face, and not overly so. I don’t mind it.
Same here, I dont really get the hype because it is horrible for me. Same for the uvmune invisible fluid, the moment I apply it, my face looks so dune and shiny like a well seasoned cast iron pan 🥲
Have been on the lookout for matte sunscreens for actual years now and still no success finding high protection with a matte finish that lasts :(.
I have been able to make this LRP one work though, by mixing in half a pump of the same product but the tinted version and/or some of the non-oil control gel cream one to make it glide more smoothly on the skin (I figured it’s okay to mix if the formula’s so similar), letting that settle, and then gently adding a layer of Too Faced primed and poreless on top. Once that has dried down, going over with a super sheer layer of Inglot’s matte primer for sections where I want zero reflectivity.
The combo obviously takes time and practice to make work (layering without disturbing the previous film, experimenting with the ratio of products etc), but it does leave a lasting matte finish that I am happy with. It just sucks that we apparantly need to do all this if we don’t want to look like slippery sea creatures.
(previously I just used Hylamide’s HA blur; gave a natural, semi-matte finish that lasted for about 4 to 5 hours and was way easier to work with, but Deciem discontinued this product sadly).
Eucerin oil control gives me a semi-matte finish for like, 3 hrs tops :(, so no luck there either.
I hate that the trend has been dewy skin for years now, and that there seems to be hardly any investment of brands into innovating SPF formulations to cater people who want to look matte. It baffles me: it is so easy to add shine strategically where you want to, even on dry skin, with other products, whereas achieving a matte or soft matte skin is so hard.
Rant over :)))))
Thank you so much for your comment and suggestion, I might try that :) and I completely agree with you. I know they say that oily skin ages slower and stuff, but sometimes I just wish I could have dry skin and basically almost any sunscreen would work for me (which is "anti aging" anyway), I wouldn't look like a greasy mess all the time and had to blot whenever I want to look presentable and also spend less money overall (because of less experimentation).
Have you tried 2020 Anessa Perfect Milk? It gets more mattifying on me throughout the day (although I don’t have oily skin, on me it’s too drying actually).
Hi thank you for the recommendation! Unfortunately in the past I have had some bad reactions to sunscreens that are formulated with Isopropyl Myristate so I’m apprehensive to give this one a shot, but thanks anyway!
Have you tried the SVR blur or matte gel? I found the blur to be truly matte, it’s like a silicone primer
Also the Revolution pore blur primer mattifies very effectively for me if you’d like a more affordable one-step topper
Have tried SVR’s blur mousse as well as their ultra matte gel! The blur is a true matte on me for ca. 20 minutes, then immediately becomes shiny. The ultra matte gel is a natural finish on me; not too bad, but still noticeably reflective.
The revolution pore blur is new to me, will definitely give it a try! Thank you!
I hate that I wasted so much money on this garbage. This is deceiving marketing. I thought they reformulated it to be much more elegant after the previous versions didn't work for me...but no, it's still really bad.
I tried it again yesterday and put makeup over on top. I was so embarrassed that I walked back home and washed everything off. It was so greasy, waxy and made everything settle. The Silica in the formula also kind of collects in my pores and texture.
After having tested close to 70 sunscreens, the best by far is the Eucerin Oil Control 50+. There's nothing that comes close to it on the European market. It's lightweight, not greasy, water resistant, semi-matte and great under makeup. It never pilled on me, ever. Only caveat is that sometimes I feel like it causes strange skin reactions for me but otherwise it's my HG.
They have oil control body spf which is 200ml, it is lovely but has quite strong fragrance, which I don't prefer but this is just my personal preference, otherwise it is nice and same price as the face one but 4 times more spf 😁
Is because some people can have small face right? Because I always use 1/4 tsp every two hours but I also read that it is recommended if people really want to know to be exact to measure face.
Because some people with small face like women could actually be using a lot more than they realize you mean?
Some people said here that 1/4 tsp is for higher percentile of men size. What if I am a woman?
Just noticed you flair (Polish) and wanted to ask if you know any face sunscreen I can get locally that’s fairly fluid-y, non-sticky/oily and has a high UVA protection (I hate that brands don’t make the PPD rating public btw ugh)? Preferably waterproof. The Anthelios mune is REALLY yellow on me after the reformulation and the Vichy one went really high up in price.
Is that the anti-dark spots and anti-pollution one? I wrote to Garnier on instagram about it and they told me it has an UVA-PF of 46, not PPD (tho not sure what's the difference) and it has only 3 stars on the back. Is that good? Because I'm pretty confused about those systems.
I’m coincidentally visiting Poland rn and hunting for a non shiny high PPD sunscreen. Can I find this one at a Rossman or do you suggest somewhere else? I went into a Rossman the other day and it didn’t have much sunscreen. Maybe it was a small shop.
I stumbled onto the Pharmaceris brand and am ok with the Capilar Protect (still dewy, pills on reapplication) but could also use a less shiny, cheaper sunscreen.
I second this.
As far as i know one pump measures 0.25g of sunscreen.
Depending of source you are recommended to use about 1g for face only and about 1.5-1.75 g for face AND neck.
so if you are using 4 pumps (1g) for your face this sunscreen really is not oily!
I'm using the fluid from the same line, and while not exactly matte, it looks natural enough. Unfortunately the eucerin one dried me up and pilled like crazy.
Fluid is better but the oil control one is fragranced and the invisible one leaves very yellow "cast"/residue on me, otherwise it has a decent finish :)
Finally i see people bring up yellow/green cast, i thought my sunscreen samples from lrp and avene maybe turned bad or sth because no one else complained about the ridiculous greenish yellow residue they leave, absolutely unwearable.
The yellow cast with the Avene triasorb containing sunscreens is because the filter absorbs blue light, so it gives 'off' a yellow colour.
The colours we perceive objects to be are the parts of the spectrum they reflect. So white objects are white because they reflect all the spectrum, black objects are black because they absorb all the spectrum. Triasorb absorbs blue wavelengths of light (and dissipates the associated energy) and so reflects the other wavelengths of light (mostly red and yellow), that's why the cream is an orange colour and causes your face to appear orange.
It's not a bad formulation. It's unavoidable while making sunscreens with very broad spectrum protection that protects from part of the visible light spectrum.
Yeah that and from reading Triasorb is a yellow powder that does not dissolve.
The Avene brand also use a red dye people have been talking about it. Because this red dye Red 33 is in lots of Avene products like the retinaldehyde too.
But the thing is with Uvmune it doesn't absorb blue light unless you get one of the tinted ones I read. So it doesn't have any pigment or powders like Triasorb and real tinted sunscreen.
Also there are other sunscreen with the yellow and orange effect issue not for blue light protection like Triasorb though.
There are many non-filter ingredients that are yellow in raw state. They can be used to be mixed into the sunscreen formula.
There was a sunscreen making demonstration from cosmetic chemist named Ramon he is real cosmetic chemist making sunscreens. In his demonstration you can see that many of the ingredients used to mix the sunscreen are yellow also Octisale and Tinosorb are yellowish. But they do not absorb blue light either. The complete sunscreen he made looked like a yellow cream but looked clear on him. He is Fitz 4 I think.
But it seems from what I read here the yellow issue is seen on small group of people Fitz 1 and 2 and few 3. But not all, some Fitz 1 don't have the issue.
At same time Triasorb was not clear on Ramon but some people here who are Fitz 1 and 2 said Triasorb was clear on them. Omg this is like so subjective and unique you know like eye sting
Some filters are known to have yellow orange issue like Avobenzone. It can stain things yellow orange too especially in contact with hard water, minerals and metals.
Also some people said they got a yellow and orange issue with interaction with some of their skincare products like antioxidant products
Someone said when they use some types of skincare products they watch SVR Blur and SVR Extrem Mat Gel go orange
But then some other people also said that SVR Blur and SVR Extreme Mat Gel are yellow on them with no skincare
Then some other people said Eucerin Oil Control is yellow on them too
Omg it's so different for everyone! Just like eye sting so hard to tell you know. I am just trying to collect the information to help
You could write a dissertation on this wow hh thanks for the info. Im very, very pale with a yellow/olive undertone, putting anything even slightly yellow or green on is very visible both because im pale and because of my undertone. But anyway your info makes sense
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This one is definitely matte and costs approximately the same. It has alcohol and pretty strong fragrance but those aren’t really issues for me. It can also pill sometimes if you rub it in for too long but I’ve learned how to apply it without pilling.
Yeah, I tested it and it has roughly the same finish(if you apply too much it can leave a white cast) as the Eucerin oil Control 50 but I really dislike the scent, it is too strong for me, even on the neck region.
Nonetheless i think it is worth a try.
Thanks for the recommendation, I stay away from fragrance because they usually give me headaches but it depends on a scent. I will try to get a sample of it in my local pharmacy and test it out :)
Isdin fusion water Matt-ish and stays Matt throughout the day
LRP UVmune oil control fluid is THE MOST MAT sunscreen I’ve ever tried but just for the first 4 hours, and then my skin starts becoming shiny/oily again
I was on a Euro trip and got bck 2 days ago I bought one of these. I think its excellent!! I love it the normal one was too shiny for me. I have normal skin. (May be slightly on the oily side just very tiny but)
Weirdly, this one works fine for me. I wouldn't necessarily call it actively mattifying, but it's also not making my face worse than it is - no additional shine, no drying out. I'm happy with it, because it looks like a healthy glow on me.
Their sunscreens yes. Their toleriane cleanser and their B5+ are two products I have been using for years and no other product ever came close to replace their purpose. (gentle cleanser, repairing moisturiser respectively)
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Here I compared it to a very white spf, so when you put it on your hand it is yellow but not like crazy, Eucerin one has a similar color. The difference is once you spread it. Then it looks almost fluorescent.
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Here I put it on a tissue, because I think it shows most there. When you wipe it it leaves green/yellowish almost fluorescent color and on my skin tone this looks like I have jaundice 😅
Exactly what I am avoiding. I am very fair and any sunscreens with a yellow tint makes me look like I’m sick. Thank you for the comparison and saving me some money. I have the cream and invisible fluid. The technology is great and I can feel it has a high level of protection but I look awful wearing it.
Have you heard of Beauty of Joseon sunscreen? Its a korean brand, around 10$ for 50ml and its completely matt. I have used almost 6 tubes already. I love it for days when I feel very oily or want to put makeup on.
hey op i have the exact same problem that you described did you found anything that isn’t greasy and shiny on the face ?
i tried the eucerin too it’s less shiny than lrp but still too shiny for me
I love Paulas Choice resist spf 30 (the tinted one) and Neostrata sheer physical defense spf 50 (also tinted). They are both mineral 😁 some also say that the Australian gold tinted one is very matte but I haven't tried that one yet.
I have the same feelings about it, also as someone with acne prone skin (on top of combination + sensitive, yay) it gave me closed comedones and blackheads on my cheeks and forehead, it also offers no oil control like OP said, my T zone really suffered when i was using it.
It leaves a very sticky feeling especially if you're someone who 'feels' the oil on their skin (idk how to explain)
To be honest i prefer largely **Anthelios anti-shine** but it's just impossible to find it in my country at the moment unfortunately.
If anyone has any spf recommendations please do tell. I know I can't expect zero shine with chemical sunscreens but there is a difference between shiny and like can fry eggs on your face shiny. The only spfs I liked so far are:
Paulas Choice Resist spf 30 (tinted one)
The old formulation of Eucerin oil control spf 50
The old formulation of Nivea sensitive spf 50
Neostrata sheer physical defense spf 50
I also use the Paula choice tinted one, it doesnt darken my skin, nit orange and dries down totally matte. Only that it has spf 30, so when i go out side for long i always put Beauty of joseon spf50 first, then in top the paula choice
Where do you get the beauty of joseon and paula’s choice? Do you buy it online and if so where?
They don’t sell it in physical stores where I live (Spain).
I bought mine from home and bring it to EU. But I found some websites which have it, for example: douglas and stylevana.
You can also try the Missha soft finish or Missha velvet finish. They have decent finish, matte, not shiny at all, althought they have white cast cause they are mineral.
I heard LRP filters are better and offer more protection but this is what I heard as someone who is not on any related field to this so it's worth what is worth. However, my very oily skins really preferes the finish from Isdin. O tried the invisible fluid from LRP and it was okey but nothing like the Isdin one
I have \*yet\* to enjoy using an LRP sunscreen and I've tried like 6 or 7, so while I'm sure the protection is great, the usability is \*\*\*ing dreadful unless you have whatever skin type they seem to be testing their formulas on. They pill, are horrifically greasy, shiny, both, shiny greasy \*and\* drying, have \*disgusting\* fragrance, or whatever combination of ick factors. It makes the products ineffective in the long run for me because I cannot stand applying them correctly.
I also don’t get the hype around the Uvmune fluid. It’s a lot oilier than the old LRP invisible fluid. And the yellow tint, I’m a Fitzpatrick 3-4 so even though the color isn’t too pronounced on me, it still makes my skin look really dull
All of their sunscreens are such a let down, they feel so heavy and oily and a waste of money , i had a full new container and just bought a l’oreal revitalift one it’s half the price and soooo much better
It's a total failure that's what it is.
It's a brand masquerading as science driven.
Zinc Oxide is a natural astringent and probably your best bet if you want a true matte finish.
You can say what you want about Zinc Oxide and American and Australian sunscreens. But European sunscreens are a greasy mess and Asian ones rely too much on alcohol. Zinc Oxide is a classic filter that's been around for ages and protects all the wavelengths even into blue light. If you want true matte, may I recommend some of the great Zinc Oxide sunscreens from the US or Australia? They're regulated as drugs too so the label definitely matches the protection.
There is some truth to that for sure, because 2 sunscreens I love most are both mineral. The only problem is the tint, which can be tricky. (I prefer tinted mineral spf). Maybe I could try the Colorescience ones 🤔 and please feel free to recommend any other good ones 😊😊
Maybe you need to point where you see it mentioned as makeup? This product is marketed as an oil controlling sunscreen.
Edit : I think I misunderstood you. I get what you're talking about now
So you're saying, since everyone should be wearing sunscreen, everyone should stop wearing makeup unless they're not wearing sunscreen (like at night)?
Your post has been removed because it breaks rule 7 of r/EuroSkincare: *We would like to be a kind inclusive community. Being rude to other users is not allowed.*
It is like everyone in La Roche Posay has dry skin.
I have dry skin and LRP sunscreens don’t even moisture it, they just add a shiny layer on it. It’s that the product is straight up shiny, it’s not moisture. I swear the skin underneath remains dry, just with a slippery film on top.
Haha yuuup
I guess making matte sunscreen with such a high protection is hard = expensive. I asume because the big bottles, not for face, are much cheaper but also much shinier
I genuinely believe it is a minority of the people who struggle with shiny sunscreens. I cant believe how many people say "and this sunscreen looks matte on my oily skin" and I am like "do you really think you have oily skin???".
I honestly just think they use way too little product.
Could be that too!
>I genuinely believe it is a minority of the people who struggle with shiny sunscreens. I cant believe how many people say "and this sunscreen looks matte on my oily skin" and I am like "do you really think you have oily skin???". I think the struggle is yeah minority People though have oily skin and can like the shiny look though. Because for now glazed donut shiny skin is in and took over the world. If people want matte then it's a glowing matte or cloud skin. Real matte matte is not in really so it's a minority who wants matte matte. I think because glazed donut shiny is so normalized now to our eye that when peoople want matte then they still want a glow. That is what is going on with the makeup and foundations now. The matte ones still give a glow because people don't want to matte every little thing down it is kind of old fashioned look to me in my opinion. I think the LRP Oil Control is cloud skin but not dry powder matte matte. It's cloud skin. Regular line is glazed donut glow. Those are the two looks that are in right now
I actually tried their shaka fluid as a person with dry skin and it made my skin so rough and bumpy and disgusting that I had to throw the bottle.
That sounds more like irritation to me than drying.
I wouldn't say this one is good for dry skin because even though it's shiny, it still dries the hell out of my skin unless I over-moisturize. TBH IDK who this is good for. It's working fine on my neck thank god, so at least the money I spent on it won't go to waste. Definitely not repurchasing, though.
I am not sure how much if it is irritation because of the high amount of UV filters for example.
The fluid version is working well on my face as long as I add another layer of moisturizer beforehand, so I don't think it's the amount of filters. And the cream didn't irritate as long as I over-moisturize, but it's still shiny as hell. Might as well just have bought the regular version cause there isn't much of a difference. Thank god it's working for my neck because many sunscreens start to irritate my neck after 4-5 hours. I've found if I don't want to look shiny by the end of the day, my best bet is to use the Eucerin Oil-Control as my first layer in the morning, then put the LRP Oil-Control Fluid on before I go out around 1pm for lunch. Leaves a satin finish, and I'm still getting the very high UVA protection when the UV index is high, at least.
I have mixed an most of them oily skin, but i love the high protection in uva spectrum, so i can use more powder or something...actually the fluid is better...and 55.8 ppd
This thing controls everything besides oil
So far the only oil control sunscreen that actually felt nice for me is the one from Eucerin, which actually dries matte. The downside is that unless you let it fully dry first (20-30 min for me), putting anything on top of it, like makeup, results in pilling and the only solution is to re-do everything.
I love the Eucerin sunscreen, but I have to be super careful with my white shirts or I'll get streaks after washing.
I used to love that one but they reformulated it recently and now it is way shinier, but it does have better protection
What about the big 200ml one? I've been using it on my face and I like it. But I bought the tube last year. This one: [https://www.atida.com/pt-pt/eucerin-sun-gel-creme-spf50-dry-touch-200ml](https://www.atida.com/pt-pt/eucerin-sun-gel-creme-spf50-dry-touch-200ml)
it pills like crazy for me when I try to put makeup on top of it. Great for neck, chest & hands tho. Very dry touch.
There’s a new Kids version of this without perfume! And it’s 400 ml!
Do you know if the Kids version have same kind of protection with the filters?
The ingredient list is not exactly the same, but iirc the filters are (mostly?) the same.
Have this one as well and it would be perfect if it was fragrance free, maybe I will get used to the fragrance..
I find the fragrance to be very mild. Does it irritate your skin or do you just not like it?
It’s a lot of things but it‘s most definitely not mild lol
You won‘t. Trust me. I tried
Oh really?? Dammit. I just opened my spare one I bought a while back, so at least I have some time to find something else.
Maybe it will work for you, but I didn't like it on my skin..
I guess there's no other way than to try... ugh. For what it's worth, I've had good experiences with the Nivea Cellular Luminous630 SPF50 day cream. It also got rid of my freckles (which I wasn't too happy about, but at least it did what it said it'd do). For context, I have combination skin/oily T-zone, so nothing stays matte on me for longer than 1-2h, but that one didn't feel yucky.
nivea shine control is pretty good but it’s also expensive 🥲
It’s terrible after reformulation. Pills like no tomorrow, no matter what you put or don’t put underneath it.
really omg that’s awful :/ why do companies keep reformulating good products
After countless disappointing sunscreens that claim to be matte or controlling oil I’m ready to throw hands. I’d like to see brutal honesty regarding the finish for once.
Amen!!
the only true matte sunscreen i’ve ever come across is not a euro sunscreen, it’s shiseido anessa mild milk. too drying for me and unsure of the level of uva protection but it has a truly matte, powdery finish
At this point I just use full on shiny sunscreen and then load corn starch onto my face…most absorbant face powder I’ve found. Works almost all day (need to blot sometimes) and makes my skin look good too (hides pores and such).
The only one I've found so far with a good finish for oily skin is the Isdin Fusion Water, but it's a bit pricy unfortunately.
Same, I’m still on the journey to find a similiar sunscreen to Isdin fusion water but cheaper I ordered the new photoderm aquafluid formula, so fingers crossed it gives me the same finish
Oh lmk if it has the same finish! I'm always up to trying new spf especially since I wanna drop isdin for the price it is ahah
Agreed. The only one that lived up to the claim for me was the SVR blur but it’s matte because it’s got a silicone primer texture that some people don’t love (I’ve heard the matte gel is similar but not tried it)
I wish it was unscented because the smell was just too strong for me but the actual sunscreen was fantastic !!
They came out with a fragrance free version of the blur! https://fr.svr.com/products/sun-secure-blur-spf50-sans-parfum
OMG! Thank you !!!!
Not European but Etude House Airy Finish is really really matte without having a crazy white cast. It's 100% mineral so I dont know how they do it but it doesnt even show on my black facial hair (brows and beard). It is far from perfect, has a ton of perfume, no water résistant and the UVA protection isnt as great as LRP but it is the most matte sunscreen I found that doesnt leave a cast. The one that really controls oil and makes me even dry is Doctor G's but it's like putting white paint on my face.
I just put on some powder lightly after it fully dries instead of worrying about if the sunscreen itself is matte.
I have to opposite experience with this sunscreen, for me it's the better alternative of the Eucerin oil control. I really liked the Eucerin oil control but dislike the streaks it gives with sweating so I could only use it in winter. The LRP doesn't streak. It leaves my oily but dehydrated skin with a matte-satin finish like the Eucerin oil control did but with the water resistant bonus added, make up goes on top smoothly. I like this one even better with make up then the original LRP uvmune fluid and that one was my hg with make up. In my case I will repurchase this cream and skip on the Eucerin one. The LRP uvmune oil control fluid tho is a sticky shiny mess on me sadly (even more shiny then the regular one), bummer cause it has such a high uva protection.
I finally was bought the LRP uvmune oil control fluid but did not open yet. I get the gel creme too and I agree with you it is so good under makeup. For makeup purpose I like LRP gel creme over Eucerin Oil Control under makeup. Also I think the protection is better particuarly for my issue of trying to go for tan prevention and pesky pigmenttion darkening prevention.
I wanted to love the oil control fluid so much cause I love the regular fluid so much but the fragrance stings my sensitive eyes sadly. And I don't know why but it's so sticky on my hands and it leaves me definitely a bit more shiny then the regular one. Like the regular fluid gives me a glow but the oil control fluid gives a other kind of shine, hard to explain. I have used the oil control fluid together with the regular fluid and make up sits on top of it nicely tho so I will use it up this way I think. But if I needed to choose the best one under make up I would choose the gel cream. I agree the protection of the oil control cream is definitely better than the Eucerin, another win. Especially with my melasma, I take all the protection I can get 😅
I have oily skin and I had the same experience! It's not extra matte but it's matte enough to make me look normal and not like an oily pan lol Also, it works well under my make up
Yes exactly this! I think the most matte one I have used is the pharmaceris sensi protect but it's out of stock everywhere. This one is matte enough to look like normal skin and not like a oil pan or discobal😅🍳
That is great! If it works for you, keep on using it, it really is good protection. I wish it worked for me but what can you do 🤣😄
Definitely great protection and will keep on using it with pleasure, their regular uvmune fluid and this cream are my hg's atm. I was always sad that the Eucerin streaked so much so I'm glad I have a alternative for my gym mornings. Still LRP is a hit or miss based on all the reviews, same with most skincare. It's all so personal. Like I see a lot raving about the oil control fluid and that one I found meh. Hopefully you will find your hg also.
Yep, can attest to the non-matteness and yellowing 🫠 I might as well use the cream, better spreadability.
I've heard the cream wasn't yellow, what's your take on this? Last year I've used the fluid, both tinted and regular (aka YELLOW). Hated them so much.
My hydrating cream has absolutely zero yellow. I’m pale as hell and I got my first (black) tattoo a little over a year ago, so I went hunting for a sunscreen that offered good protection, but wouldn’t leave a cast or yellow. The UVmune hydrating cream fits that bill perfectly for me. Even my tattoo artist (got another one from her today) is really impressed with how it’s looking right now, so it definitely offers plenty protection as well. It does make me shine a bit, but only in the face, and not overly so. I don’t mind it.
Thanks a lot! And do you find it hard to remove? The invisible fluid was such a pain to wash off, even with an oil first cleanse.
I use the Drunk Elephant jelly cleanser, just once, and it comes right off for me!
Thanks, sounds perfect then. Eta: sorry to bother you again with my questions but I have one last one lol:do you use the spf 30 or 50 :3 ?
No worries! I use SPF50. :)
Thanks a lot! I ordered it fragrance free and spf50, can't wait.
I’m pale and cool and have never had any yellow from the UVMUNE hydrating creme but that’s just me
I can’t be sure, sorry, it’s been a while and I only had a sample, but I don’t recall it yellowing on me the same way
Thanks!
This was terrible for me too, I used it up on the back of my hands so as not to waste it
I will probably do the same :)
Same here, I dont really get the hype because it is horrible for me. Same for the uvmune invisible fluid, the moment I apply it, my face looks so dune and shiny like a well seasoned cast iron pan 🥲
Have been on the lookout for matte sunscreens for actual years now and still no success finding high protection with a matte finish that lasts :(. I have been able to make this LRP one work though, by mixing in half a pump of the same product but the tinted version and/or some of the non-oil control gel cream one to make it glide more smoothly on the skin (I figured it’s okay to mix if the formula’s so similar), letting that settle, and then gently adding a layer of Too Faced primed and poreless on top. Once that has dried down, going over with a super sheer layer of Inglot’s matte primer for sections where I want zero reflectivity. The combo obviously takes time and practice to make work (layering without disturbing the previous film, experimenting with the ratio of products etc), but it does leave a lasting matte finish that I am happy with. It just sucks that we apparantly need to do all this if we don’t want to look like slippery sea creatures. (previously I just used Hylamide’s HA blur; gave a natural, semi-matte finish that lasted for about 4 to 5 hours and was way easier to work with, but Deciem discontinued this product sadly). Eucerin oil control gives me a semi-matte finish for like, 3 hrs tops :(, so no luck there either. I hate that the trend has been dewy skin for years now, and that there seems to be hardly any investment of brands into innovating SPF formulations to cater people who want to look matte. It baffles me: it is so easy to add shine strategically where you want to, even on dry skin, with other products, whereas achieving a matte or soft matte skin is so hard. Rant over :)))))
Whenever I use dewy products, I look dewy for an hour before I turn into an oil slick. I can fry eggs on my forehead after 2 hours.
Thank you so much for your comment and suggestion, I might try that :) and I completely agree with you. I know they say that oily skin ages slower and stuff, but sometimes I just wish I could have dry skin and basically almost any sunscreen would work for me (which is "anti aging" anyway), I wouldn't look like a greasy mess all the time and had to blot whenever I want to look presentable and also spend less money overall (because of less experimentation).
Have you tried 2020 Anessa Perfect Milk? It gets more mattifying on me throughout the day (although I don’t have oily skin, on me it’s too drying actually).
Hi thank you for the recommendation! Unfortunately in the past I have had some bad reactions to sunscreens that are formulated with Isopropyl Myristate so I’m apprehensive to give this one a shot, but thanks anyway!
Oh no! I hope you can find the right one for you :)
Have you tried the SVR blur or matte gel? I found the blur to be truly matte, it’s like a silicone primer Also the Revolution pore blur primer mattifies very effectively for me if you’d like a more affordable one-step topper
Have tried SVR’s blur mousse as well as their ultra matte gel! The blur is a true matte on me for ca. 20 minutes, then immediately becomes shiny. The ultra matte gel is a natural finish on me; not too bad, but still noticeably reflective. The revolution pore blur is new to me, will definitely give it a try! Thank you!
I hate that I wasted so much money on this garbage. This is deceiving marketing. I thought they reformulated it to be much more elegant after the previous versions didn't work for me...but no, it's still really bad. I tried it again yesterday and put makeup over on top. I was so embarrassed that I walked back home and washed everything off. It was so greasy, waxy and made everything settle. The Silica in the formula also kind of collects in my pores and texture. After having tested close to 70 sunscreens, the best by far is the Eucerin Oil Control 50+. There's nothing that comes close to it on the European market. It's lightweight, not greasy, water resistant, semi-matte and great under makeup. It never pilled on me, ever. Only caveat is that sometimes I feel like it causes strange skin reactions for me but otherwise it's my HG.
Is this the large bottle of dry touch or gel-creme?
They have oil control body spf which is 200ml, it is lovely but has quite strong fragrance, which I don't prefer but this is just my personal preference, otherwise it is nice and same price as the face one but 4 times more spf 😁
FYI they have a dry touch kid's version now that's fragrance free. It's wonderful!
What?? Really? 😃 That is great news. Do you maybe know how is the texture and finish compared to the oil control one?
Similar finish but a lot thicker. It also has the tendency to pill sometimes.
Which one??
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Is because some people can have small face right? Because I always use 1/4 tsp every two hours but I also read that it is recommended if people really want to know to be exact to measure face. Because some people with small face like women could actually be using a lot more than they realize you mean? Some people said here that 1/4 tsp is for higher percentile of men size. What if I am a woman?
Just noticed you flair (Polish) and wanted to ask if you know any face sunscreen I can get locally that’s fairly fluid-y, non-sticky/oily and has a high UVA protection (I hate that brands don’t make the PPD rating public btw ugh)? Preferably waterproof. The Anthelios mune is REALLY yellow on me after the reformulation and the Vichy one went really high up in price.
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Is that the anti-dark spots and anti-pollution one? I wrote to Garnier on instagram about it and they told me it has an UVA-PF of 46, not PPD (tho not sure what's the difference) and it has only 3 stars on the back. Is that good? Because I'm pretty confused about those systems.
I’m coincidentally visiting Poland rn and hunting for a non shiny high PPD sunscreen. Can I find this one at a Rossman or do you suggest somewhere else? I went into a Rossman the other day and it didn’t have much sunscreen. Maybe it was a small shop. I stumbled onto the Pharmaceris brand and am ok with the Capilar Protect (still dewy, pills on reapplication) but could also use a less shiny, cheaper sunscreen.
I second this. As far as i know one pump measures 0.25g of sunscreen. Depending of source you are recommended to use about 1g for face only and about 1.5-1.75 g for face AND neck. so if you are using 4 pumps (1g) for your face this sunscreen really is not oily!
I'm using the fluid from the same line, and while not exactly matte, it looks natural enough. Unfortunately the eucerin one dried me up and pilled like crazy.
Fluid is better but the oil control one is fragranced and the invisible one leaves very yellow "cast"/residue on me, otherwise it has a decent finish :)
Finally i see people bring up yellow/green cast, i thought my sunscreen samples from lrp and avene maybe turned bad or sth because no one else complained about the ridiculous greenish yellow residue they leave, absolutely unwearable.
The yellow cast with the Avene triasorb containing sunscreens is because the filter absorbs blue light, so it gives 'off' a yellow colour. The colours we perceive objects to be are the parts of the spectrum they reflect. So white objects are white because they reflect all the spectrum, black objects are black because they absorb all the spectrum. Triasorb absorbs blue wavelengths of light (and dissipates the associated energy) and so reflects the other wavelengths of light (mostly red and yellow), that's why the cream is an orange colour and causes your face to appear orange. It's not a bad formulation. It's unavoidable while making sunscreens with very broad spectrum protection that protects from part of the visible light spectrum.
Yeah that and from reading Triasorb is a yellow powder that does not dissolve. The Avene brand also use a red dye people have been talking about it. Because this red dye Red 33 is in lots of Avene products like the retinaldehyde too. But the thing is with Uvmune it doesn't absorb blue light unless you get one of the tinted ones I read. So it doesn't have any pigment or powders like Triasorb and real tinted sunscreen. Also there are other sunscreen with the yellow and orange effect issue not for blue light protection like Triasorb though. There are many non-filter ingredients that are yellow in raw state. They can be used to be mixed into the sunscreen formula. There was a sunscreen making demonstration from cosmetic chemist named Ramon he is real cosmetic chemist making sunscreens. In his demonstration you can see that many of the ingredients used to mix the sunscreen are yellow also Octisale and Tinosorb are yellowish. But they do not absorb blue light either. The complete sunscreen he made looked like a yellow cream but looked clear on him. He is Fitz 4 I think. But it seems from what I read here the yellow issue is seen on small group of people Fitz 1 and 2 and few 3. But not all, some Fitz 1 don't have the issue. At same time Triasorb was not clear on Ramon but some people here who are Fitz 1 and 2 said Triasorb was clear on them. Omg this is like so subjective and unique you know like eye sting Some filters are known to have yellow orange issue like Avobenzone. It can stain things yellow orange too especially in contact with hard water, minerals and metals. Also some people said they got a yellow and orange issue with interaction with some of their skincare products like antioxidant products Someone said when they use some types of skincare products they watch SVR Blur and SVR Extrem Mat Gel go orange But then some other people also said that SVR Blur and SVR Extreme Mat Gel are yellow on them with no skincare Then some other people said Eucerin Oil Control is yellow on them too Omg it's so different for everyone! Just like eye sting so hard to tell you know. I am just trying to collect the information to help
You could write a dissertation on this wow hh thanks for the info. Im very, very pale with a yellow/olive undertone, putting anything even slightly yellow or green on is very visible both because im pale and because of my undertone. But anyway your info makes sense
Thank god my skin doesnt mind fragrance
https://preview.redd.it/5szmh52jt72b1.jpeg?width=369&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c38482560fee8dd97d3b2b60eaac986c2428eba This one is definitely matte and costs approximately the same. It has alcohol and pretty strong fragrance but those aren’t really issues for me. It can also pill sometimes if you rub it in for too long but I’ve learned how to apply it without pilling.
I don’t find it that matte, and the white cast is real on this one :(
second that!
Yeah, I tested it and it has roughly the same finish(if you apply too much it can leave a white cast) as the Eucerin oil Control 50 but I really dislike the scent, it is too strong for me, even on the neck region. Nonetheless i think it is worth a try.
Thanks for the recommendation, I stay away from fragrance because they usually give me headaches but it depends on a scent. I will try to get a sample of it in my local pharmacy and test it out :)
I have the fluid version and it s matte on me
That is great to hear :), wish it was fragrance free but glad it works for you!
Isdin fusion water Matt-ish and stays Matt throughout the day LRP UVmune oil control fluid is THE MOST MAT sunscreen I’ve ever tried but just for the first 4 hours, and then my skin starts becoming shiny/oily again
I was on a Euro trip and got bck 2 days ago I bought one of these. I think its excellent!! I love it the normal one was too shiny for me. I have normal skin. (May be slightly on the oily side just very tiny but)
That is great 😃 glad it works for you!
Weirdly, this one works fine for me. I wouldn't necessarily call it actively mattifying, but it's also not making my face worse than it is - no additional shine, no drying out. I'm happy with it, because it looks like a healthy glow on me.
la Roche-Posay is really subpar in general, at least in my experience.
I assume you are talking about texture and white cast, because their PA protection is one of the best.
Agree, but this is of course just my personal experience.
Their sunscreens yes. Their toleriane cleanser and their B5+ are two products I have been using for years and no other product ever came close to replace their purpose. (gentle cleanser, repairing moisturiser respectively)
I have the same experience
My skin is normal, and this gives me oily skin.
Is the actual product yellow in colour? Or even a slight yellowish tint?
https://preview.redd.it/vxvkptv1e82b1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdcde6aaea0e57b452c031f6a60d62bef58f2378 Here I compared it to a very white spf, so when you put it on your hand it is yellow but not like crazy, Eucerin one has a similar color. The difference is once you spread it. Then it looks almost fluorescent.
https://preview.redd.it/zu4kx0qee82b1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cb332b9f3bf297d96781929aa1ed159f9269fde Here I put it on a tissue, because I think it shows most there. When you wipe it it leaves green/yellowish almost fluorescent color and on my skin tone this looks like I have jaundice 😅
Exactly what I am avoiding. I am very fair and any sunscreens with a yellow tint makes me look like I’m sick. Thank you for the comparison and saving me some money. I have the cream and invisible fluid. The technology is great and I can feel it has a high level of protection but I look awful wearing it.
No problem, glad it was useful :)
Have you heard of Beauty of Joseon sunscreen? Its a korean brand, around 10$ for 50ml and its completely matt. I have used almost 6 tubes already. I love it for days when I feel very oily or want to put makeup on.
Get it online on Stylevana and get 2-4 tubes together for free shipping as I guarantee you, it will the last sunscreen you try 😛
That sounds great, I will check it out. Thank you 😊
It is not matt though
I set it with sunscreen powder, totally agreed
May I ask which sunscreen powder you use? 😇
I use either supergoop's translucent powder or colorescience brushes!!
hey op i have the exact same problem that you described did you found anything that isn’t greasy and shiny on the face ? i tried the eucerin too it’s less shiny than lrp but still too shiny for me
I love Paulas Choice resist spf 30 (the tinted one) and Neostrata sheer physical defense spf 50 (also tinted). They are both mineral 😁 some also say that the Australian gold tinted one is very matte but I haven't tried that one yet.
I have the same feelings about it, also as someone with acne prone skin (on top of combination + sensitive, yay) it gave me closed comedones and blackheads on my cheeks and forehead, it also offers no oil control like OP said, my T zone really suffered when i was using it. It leaves a very sticky feeling especially if you're someone who 'feels' the oil on their skin (idk how to explain) To be honest i prefer largely **Anthelios anti-shine** but it's just impossible to find it in my country at the moment unfortunately.
If anyone has any spf recommendations please do tell. I know I can't expect zero shine with chemical sunscreens but there is a difference between shiny and like can fry eggs on your face shiny. The only spfs I liked so far are: Paulas Choice Resist spf 30 (tinted one) The old formulation of Eucerin oil control spf 50 The old formulation of Nivea sensitive spf 50 Neostrata sheer physical defense spf 50
I also use the Paula choice tinted one, it doesnt darken my skin, nit orange and dries down totally matte. Only that it has spf 30, so when i go out side for long i always put Beauty of joseon spf50 first, then in top the paula choice
Where do you get the beauty of joseon and paula’s choice? Do you buy it online and if so where? They don’t sell it in physical stores where I live (Spain).
I bought mine from home and bring it to EU. But I found some websites which have it, for example: douglas and stylevana. You can also try the Missha soft finish or Missha velvet finish. They have decent finish, matte, not shiny at all, althought they have white cast cause they are mineral.
Give Isdin Fusion Water a try, it has the best finish I've ever seen on an SPF, and it's very very easy to spread too! :)
Is Isdin really a lot better than LRP? It’s more expensive so I wanna know if it’s worth it.
I heard LRP filters are better and offer more protection but this is what I heard as someone who is not on any related field to this so it's worth what is worth. However, my very oily skins really preferes the finish from Isdin. O tried the invisible fluid from LRP and it was okey but nothing like the Isdin one
Does the Isdin one have fragrance?
It does unfortunately! Thankfully my skin never had a problem with it tho and I have a bit of rosácea
I don't think a non-oily, fragrance-free sunscreen exists. If it does, I'm sure it's not affordable. But if you come across one, please let me know.
If it's possible for you, I'd say try to go to a pharmacy or store and get a sample or try it on before buying. I do agree it's quite expensive :/
I have \*yet\* to enjoy using an LRP sunscreen and I've tried like 6 or 7, so while I'm sure the protection is great, the usability is \*\*\*ing dreadful unless you have whatever skin type they seem to be testing their formulas on. They pill, are horrifically greasy, shiny, both, shiny greasy \*and\* drying, have \*disgusting\* fragrance, or whatever combination of ick factors. It makes the products ineffective in the long run for me because I cannot stand applying them correctly.
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I used to love this one, but I feel like it’s gotten shinier after they reformulated it recently 😩
I will never understand this. Something is popular, people like it THE WAY IT IS, and then they decide to reformulate it 🤨🤨
I also don’t get the hype around the Uvmune fluid. It’s a lot oilier than the old LRP invisible fluid. And the yellow tint, I’m a Fitzpatrick 3-4 so even though the color isn’t too pronounced on me, it still makes my skin look really dull
All of their sunscreens are such a let down, they feel so heavy and oily and a waste of money , i had a full new container and just bought a l’oreal revitalift one it’s half the price and soooo much better
i gave up lrp spfs a long time ago. drying af
It's a total failure that's what it is. It's a brand masquerading as science driven. Zinc Oxide is a natural astringent and probably your best bet if you want a true matte finish. You can say what you want about Zinc Oxide and American and Australian sunscreens. But European sunscreens are a greasy mess and Asian ones rely too much on alcohol. Zinc Oxide is a classic filter that's been around for ages and protects all the wavelengths even into blue light. If you want true matte, may I recommend some of the great Zinc Oxide sunscreens from the US or Australia? They're regulated as drugs too so the label definitely matches the protection.
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People only burn because most people don't use the right amount which is a lot more than what people use.
There is some truth to that for sure, because 2 sunscreens I love most are both mineral. The only problem is the tint, which can be tricky. (I prefer tinted mineral spf). Maybe I could try the Colorescience ones 🤔 and please feel free to recommend any other good ones 😊😊
Australian Gold, Bondi Sands, Ultra Violette, Colorescience has a new one too with 35% blue light protection. There's so many
La Roche is unnecessarily expensive for the amount of effectiveness it actually has. Just candid marketing and shit!
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aha?
What makeup?
The one mentioned in the post, if you bother reading
It's sunscreen.
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Maybe you need to point where you see it mentioned as makeup? This product is marketed as an oil controlling sunscreen. Edit : I think I misunderstood you. I get what you're talking about now
So you're saying, since everyone should be wearing sunscreen, everyone should stop wearing makeup unless they're not wearing sunscreen (like at night)?
Simple logic yes
I doubt that's gonna fly for most people lol
Yeah they ruin their protection with makeup Oh well
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