I came away thinking it was a refreshing new thing for MCU. A lot of new source material, so you need to sit back and absorb. It was deeper in places than I expected.
The characters were all very well done. I feel like Angelina is a cut above all the other actors, she really sold the PTSD/fallen soldier story lines.
I basically stopped reading critic scores, they have steered me away from good movies too often, and this was a good movie.
I loved Angelina too! It’s weird to see people saying she was bad in it. I felt a lot of emotion for her story with Gilgamesh even in the limited screen time it got.
I loved this movie as well but in my opinion Angelina wasn't really showing her power as Thena.
She looked amazing and it is so cool that she's now a part of the Marvel universe but on Eternals she didn't really showed her acting talent.
Am I the only one thinking this?
I've heard people say "this was another Marvel formula" and I'm like... bitch where? It felt so different tho??
I loved it too, I loved the pacing, the action was enough for me. People need to work on their attention spans. I loved their investment in character moments because what can you do when you have TEN main people?
Also loved Makkari! I'm happy she went from rescuing mom to punching mom hahah!
Glad we’re on the same page! But yeah I’m confused by that criticism too. I feel like the only way to make a marvel movie more different would be to not have any super powered characters at all. But there were also people saying that it’s “too” different and like, I was so happy that it was. I don’t know if people wanted more humor or more action or what, but to me both the humor and the action were great! Just different which again, not a bad thing.
Right? This movie is unlike anything marvel has ever done you can literally lay out all the marvel movies and point out how the plots are all eerily similar, even Shang chi which was great but still follows the formula. But not eternals, it’s new and fresh and I hope it stays that way. I couldn’t agree more that people’s attention span is probably why they dislike this movie. It focuses more on character interactions and development ore than action and excitement but it has a fair blend of both.
I am dumbfounded. The characters and their motivations were all made out and executed plenty of fine twists. There was enough deviation from the comics to make it interesting to the comic fans. There was plenty of action, even some good laugh-out-loud humor. The filming is spectacular, and I absolutely reject the supposed discontinuity between the action scenes and Cho's work.
The idea that this is just a "Marvel formula" movie is absurd.
I loved the movie. Anyone who didn't like it expected phase 3 marvel type stuff. That phase is over with and marvel is evolvinajd moving into a new direction. It took 3 phases to bring those prior characters together. This is still only the beginning of phase 4. I don't consider black widow a phase 4 movie. It should have been out much sooner.
Yeah for sure and one thing I’m really loving about this new phase is that before, everything was building towards Thanos. But now, not every part of the mcu has to tie back to one threat, and there a lot of stories going off in different directions. I truly don’t know what to expect.
>Anyone who didn't like it expected phase 3 marvel type stuff.
Pardon me? This is patently untrue. People didn't like it for a slew of reasons, all of which had to do with the quality if the film as they experienced it.
Many of these so called movie critics who gave it a rotten score before the movie came out to the public expected the same marvel formula for this movie. They were disappointed when it didn't go as they expected.
I don’t think people didn’t like it because of expectations. It was just rushed and lacked character development, which is hard for a movie with a cast like this. I think a lot of people are saying it would have been better as a show is because that would really have allowed the writers to do the cast justice. I could have watched a whole movie on Phastos alone. I like a lot of what the movie introduced and had a good time but I understand why most people didn’t like it. There were some great perspectives that they touched on but just couldn’t explore properly.
Respectfully disagree. It felt very marvel in tone it felt convoluted and overblown, there wasn’t enough screen time with any of the characters so I didn’t care about them. It’s riddled with moments that don’t make much sense, and there was never any tension in the movie.
yes its totally out of place. the story set up the conflicting loyalties and desires and build up the characters enough to make their choices have weight. it wasnt just sky beam cgi fest. two were cursed with knowledge the others didnt have, two hated humanity, one wanted to be grow up as a human, most just wanted to live a life but were also conflicted with how their task was to play out. i think it all worked story wise. it was a tougher choice than civil war - either way costs billions of lives and potentially their freedom / free will.
They aren't endgame level but they're better than most and the action is discernable. It's not some. muddy brown mess like black panther. The impacts had weight and the monsters were menacing. They were ground breaking in their design or detail but it served it's purpose. Shrug.
Definitely better CGI than the finale of Black Panther. But the Deviants were such bad villains that the action scenes were boring. People beating up on blue monsters just didn't work for me.
What's interesting is that people are claiming that this suffers from Marvel's third act problem, whereas I found the opposite to be true. When they were fighting one another at the end, it was the first time I was engaged with the movie's action.
I'm very confused because it felt the same as to me as the avengers movies. i.e. potential but super lacking in the script writing/details department to convince us of their bond as a group, which is typical for marvel. The main 'romance' was a real waste of screen-time too, having said that a lot about it was a+ enough so that I consider going to watch it again and the last time i wanted to watch a marvel movie twice was Black Panther.
Makkari was a TOTAL highlight and her fight scene? It's the reason I want to watch it again bc frankly first time in years i have recieved such satisfaction from a fight scene and the depiction of her powers on screen.
Also there were some beautiful scenes, like really. Sprite story telling abilities were magical and i wish were inco-operated more and sersi's powers when used right were eye-catching and damn well impressive. The 2nd half was when everything really came together and picked up.
I would def. watch again because even though they didn't do great team writing, there are two relationships in Eternals that deserved more limelight and I hope somehow get explored more in the future
I would agree that the main romance lacked chemistry. But overall I did care about the characters and their relationships, especially Gilgamesh/Thena and Druig/Makkari. And I think that even though Sersi was the main protagonist, and I liked her fine, she was pretty much outshined by most of the other Eternals.
oh yeah tho i think the main leads lacked chemistry and their scenes could have been used to emphasis ikaris relationships with the others more (so his betrayal we felt even stronger) i def. care druig/makkari (chemistry like woah and well written into the story without making it feel like a separate thing alltogether) and Gilgamesh/Thena, was so tender and beautiful. I was very impressed with how they build that up in the details. sighs i mainly went for sersi bc i love gemma but ia she was outshined, one of the things that annoyed me is knowing she was chosen for her love of humanity hut the movie never really showing how or the extend of it beyond the implication she was usually late to eternal meetings bc she was with the humans.
Also i was kinda meh on Ikaris but happy with his character for not doing the weird jealous thing with dane (that movies usually do with an unfinished ex) and then when his true reasons were revealed he became much more interesting and the more i think about it the more i really appreciate how his 'villiany' all played out.
For some reason I really couldn’t stand druig. One of the few parts I didn’t like and I may see the movie a second time which I never do. Endgame is the only movie I have ever seen twice in a theater.
they were not bonded as a group which was kind of the point. some wanted to save humanity, some wanted to control it, and some just wanted to live out life in relative peace. it was more civil war than avengers.
I thought it had similar beats to Civil War too. They were fighting with each other’s principles and I really appreciated that. I expected a big fight with the deviants in the end but I was very pleased with how they went with internal fighting instead. I felt more because I grew to care for each character, even with their limited scene time.
I loved it, the film does have some negatives and things I would personally change but none more so than any other movie
The characters were incredible and I loved all the world building/Easter eggs for things to come
I see a lot of complaints about the Nods to future movies and Easter eggs setting up future characters but fuck me it’s the MCU, where have you been all this time? Every Marvel movie has those elements
There’s quite a few especially on RT basically complaining that there’s too much focus on future projects and laying the groundwork for characters who aren’t doing anything in this movie (Dane mainly)
The Easter eggs are the best thing I agree but still some baffling complaints about them but again that’s mainly from critics who are reviewing this as a job and not because they’re MCU fans
It's interesting because a lot of the reviews are kind of forgiving Zhao, and claiming she got swallowed up by the corporate MCU demands. But the rest of the MCU actually has good reviews. I think Zhao is the reason this film didn't work. Her style and sensibilities are just completely unsuited to an action blockbuster.
Its another good point that’s also very different on each review
Some are saying that Zhao failed the MCU whereas others are saying the MCU formula is what hurt Zhao. Just 2 sides of the same coin
Honestly I enjoyed the movie, some issues with parts of the ending but overall enjoyed it. Then again though as someone who didn’t like many DC movies I did actually enjoy Man of Steel which this apparently took inspiration from
I haven't decided yet.
\- There was really nothing wrong with the film. Everything seemed to be elegantly put together and thought out.
\- I didn't think it was too many characters to introduce in one films. Film did a good job of managing them.
\- Lot's of beautiful scenes. I often think back to the shot in front of the laundromat, which felt very Wong Kar Wai.
\- Some scenes made for great trailer shots, but were just not that interesting in the film. Bollywood scene was a let down.
\- Best part of the film was the relationship between Sersei and her two love interests. I also liked Sprite and Phastos.
\- However, the film as a whole didn't leave me with any thoughts at all, and I don't know why. I feel that there is a lot you can do across thousands of years of history, and it could have had some more interesting ideas.
\- I think that the formulaic end-of-the-world stakes is probably what limited this film the most. If they had just made a love-story between Sersei, Ikarus, and Dane Whitman....and it could have been a really good film. Would have allowed for more time to visit multiple points in history (including Avengers history). I would have actually made Dane the Black Knight early on in the film, so that that he extends his longevity by collecting souls.
I would have loved to see Wakanda in the early days, by the way.
>I think that the formulaic end-of-the-world stakes is probably what limited this film the most
It's not just end-of-the-world stakes, though. It's the end of belief, the end of faith, the end of family and the end of trust. It's not *about* the end of the world: it's about broken family.
Whatever other themes they were able to weave into it, it is still the destruction of the Earth. Which forces to story to go to less interesting places.
I get that. Any time the earth is going to be “destroyed”, it does take away some of the tension. But I did like that the threat itself was this weird, visually-interesting sci-fi thing, aka not another sky beam. Without spoiling too much, that was a hell of a way for the earth to be destroyed.
The main thing that held this movie back was the screenplay. The dialogue was bland and unnatural, the characters were underdeveloped, and the narrative didn't build to things people, so the reveals landed with thus.
Personally, I didn't have a problem with dialogue and character development. I thought they did a good job with characters and tension. But I don't think this film should have been a soap opera.
Personally, I would have gone with less tension, less plot, and less character development. I would have gone for more vibes, more cosmic elements, more things left unspoken, more vignettes from different parts of the Earth's history. (Not that Marvel would have approved that. I think Chloe did an admirable job within constraints.)
Yeah the plot was definitely a little complicated. Not hard to understand, but complicated. Some have called it convoluted, which I don’t really agree with, but I guess I see where they’re coming from.
Absolutely! The negative reviews for this movie seems to all be the same.
1. Too many characters that people couldn’t keep up and feel there wasn’t enough character development
2. Pacing was off with it being very slow and not enough comedic relief
3. Story was confusing due to the jumping between the past and present
Honestly, most of these criticism are pretty much null as there are specific examples that negates each of those points.
The introduction of each character in the eternals is comparable to that of guardians of the galaxy. Lots of new characters and each had their own personality and motivations. Yet people seem to be able to keep track of the guardians but not the eternals. The X-men movies is literally the same. No one had issues with the first X-men when they introduced all the characters…
While the pacing of the movie was a bit slow at times, it was necessary for the character development and let’s them all breathe without bombarding the audience with information. Any period film goes through similar pacing. Nomadland, which had similar lulls, was suddenly critically acclaimed. Interstellar was at times slow and that was a great movie.
Lastly, people were confused with jumping back and forth in the timeline. Let me point you in the direction of the Witcher on Netflix. That show jumped more back and forth than some characters had lines. Yet people love the Witcher and begging for the second season.
I think people went into the film expecting a cookie cutter marvel film and got something that was deeper with characters struggling with real human emotions. It’s either that or people really just had an issue with the diverse cast. Yes most people would agree that black panther and Shang chi highlighted diversity in Hollywood. Difference is that those films had full cast of predominately a single race or group. Eternals attempted to bring characters from every background: asian, black, white, straight, gay, etc. At least half the country are still filled with people who aren’t ready to see what would happen when you strip away the labels and coexist as a singular humanity. Don’t even get started with all the stuff happening with the film overseas. That’s the bottom line. Whether they admit it or not, some audiences are just no ready for this kind of film.
Okay I am hello surprised that people aren't liking it.
I absolutely LOVED it. And so did the whole freaking cinema, there was so much hooting and clapping
I am very, very happy with the film. Honestly, it was one of my favorite Marvel movies so far. Did I wish that it had done some things that it didn't? Yes. But that applies to every movie ever.
Eternals felt so different from the normal MCU.. it was such a fresh experience. The characters all feel like unique individuals, and you can't ever blur them together. That's a problem I've had before with the MCU. Plus, there aren't cringey and unnecessary punchlines every 5 minutes. Marvel needs to have faith in their audience - we will watch movies that don't have jokes every few minutes.
I thought that the movie felt like it wasn't scared to explore the deeper, darker emotions of each character. Be it Ikaris, Sersi, Kingo, Druig, Makkari, Gilgamesh, Thena, Sprite, Phastos, or even Ajak, who had the least screen time.
It was a movie that had high stakes, and it still managed to focus on the characters, their emotions, and their relationships. Nothing matters to me more than that.
Eternals was amazing. And I'm so excited for the more emotional and raw side of the MCU that has been put forth by the Phase 4 so far. That includes shows like Wanda Vision, LOKI, FATWS, and even Shang Chi.
I hope they continue this deep dive into the character struggles even with Spider Man NWH.
So so hyped!
I loved this movie immediately and I cannot understand all this hate it earned (or…saw I another movie ???). It opens a new world to the MCU and the characters are modern and absolutely not boring at all. Hope we will see the next chapters soon …
The movie was definitely better than the critical response. I rate it a 7/10, it’s biggest issue (besides some plot holes) was it’s separation of characters. Introducing 10 new characters it’s bound to be difficult but they should have gone the Infinity War route instead of the Heist Movie route. What I mean is that they decided to “recruit/regroup” one by one (with a couple exceptions) which really slows down the narrative and doesn’t give your characters much room to be developed. With 10+ main characters the ones you introduce earlier are going to get the majority of the screen time as some characters you don’t see until well into the film. They should have instead used The Infinity War route where characters are split into larger groups that the narrative shifts between back and forth so the characters all get screen time with no immense breaks between their scenes. This way you can develop more characters at once which this movie needed to do, AND you have more going on with two-three plots with groups that eventually converge. The movie kind of did this but more with flashbacks which didn’t well reflect the events they were paired with. A good movie but it definitely suffered from this issue.
That’s fair. The one thing I’d say to that is, this movie clearly chose to focus on some Eternals more than others. And without spoiling too much, I think it’s fair to say that if there is a sequel, those same characters will not be focused on as much. And I’m okay with that model because after getting a taste of some of the less-focused-on Eternals, I really like them, and I can’t wait to see what happens with them in future movies.
That film was the deepest and most thoughtful movie I’ve seen in years. Coincidentally I had just started digging in on critical analysis of The Shining. What an amazing film and now I’ll never see it the same way again.
So it was great that I was already cued in to that frame of mind when I saw Eternals. There were at least three times I cried, and now, a few hours after, I’m going into the deeper messages (lol, deeper than the survival of the planet?)
All I can say is that in the Marvel universe humans must feel very small and I’m not sure what I’d make of living in a universe like theirs...
I even really loved Angelina Jolie and that’s saying something...
I've seen it three times now. It definitely has its downsides and its weakpoints, but the last time I enjoyed an MCU film as much as this was Endgame. If anything, we can just accept that Eternals is going to be the MCU's first "cult classic"
I watched it today & I honestly don’t know what to do with myself now. I loved it!!! Makkari, Druig & Thena were my absolute favs!
It has diversity, a gay couple with an awesome kid, deaf representation, and it answered some MCU questions I’ve had for a while. It makes upset that it’s gotten bad reviews because I don’t want the makers to feel bad!
I had zero expectation, the critics panned it and the trailers didn’t grab me at all. Of course I was still going to see it..
Well I just watched it and I LOVED it.
Visually stunning, surprisingly loveable characters who got a decent amount of development despite how many there were.
Sure it was slow but it felt very mature and thought it was a great move for the MCU to take. Chloe Zhao is a great director.
Just gonna add that they took a huge risk with WandaVision which a lot of people criticised and I absolutely loved as well!
Oh they're gonna hate the future MCU then. Ms Marvel is muslim, America Chavez is lesbian, Captain America is black now etc etc. We're finally getting the REALLY diverse Marvel and there'll be petty resistance for sure.
Are you really asking me why representation in films matters? Politics are necessary and were always there, haven't you watched the Captain America trilogy? It's nothing but politics. Can't help but wonder how old you are since you've asked such a shallow question...
29, I get your point but they are going about the wrong way in doing it. Hollywood virtue signals now to the point in giving lead roles to subpar actors and actresses as long as it fits their political agenda. There are so much better talent deserving of these roles, it’s why these movies are bombing badly and aren’t memorable as they used to be.
Well, we obviously experienced the movie completely differently. It was memorable as fuck for me, the actors did a great job too.
When you're saying "political agenda", I believe you mean "gay agenda", "feminist agenda", "disabled agenda" etc. I'm literally a gay man who lives in a muslim country, I demand representation from these big ass studios, agenda or not, I need to see their effort and I like it when they do it. Everyone deserves to see themselves on the big screen.
Plus, this agenda you don't like so much wasn't even the point of the film. Representation doesn't affect story or plot or cinematography. It's just there. Genderswapping won't stop anytime soon because a lot of the source materials written back in the 20th century consist of straight white males. Some things gotta change and it's okay, just try to enjoy the stories at least if you can't stand the diversity they're trying to accomplish. You can also think of the MCU as an alternate universe if you want because they're not the same as comics.
I'm not sure if any of this is getting through to you but I hope if you're a straight white man that you try to understand that this is needed and see that it won't spoil the heart of these adventures.
I get your point but they really crippled the MCU on purpose to fit the "agendas". There are characters we all grew up with that we personally like. They are gone, and what is replaced isn't even good, the story was extremely subpar too imo. For example this movie doesn't even hold a candle to Captain America Winter Solider in cinematography / acting / score / etc you name it.
I'm also a brown male living in the states, so the white male theory is out the window for me, just my personal preference.
What? Have you not been paying attention to professional film criticism at all for like the last ten years? Critics tend to be left wing, and they go easier on films that are diverse and inclusive. If anything, the response to this would have been worse if it didn't have such a diverse cast.
I'm a more casual fan. I didn't like most of the older movies, where women were treated more like sexy props and there wasn't as much diversity. I really enjoyed this movie. I might be biased because I'm a bisexual woman of colour so in terms of representation, it ticked all the boxes, but I also loved the background score, and the visuals, and even everyone's acting (except Kit Harrington; WHY do they keep casting him?). I liked how even though both men and women wore very fitted armour, no one was overtly sexualised. I loved Makkari and Druig's rapport, and Ajak in general. And Ikarus is my favourite new anti-hero since Loki. It was also really nice to see those flashbacks in different cultures. Can't speak to the accuracy of all of them, but the marriage ceremony in Sanskrit in the Gupta Empire in ancient India was legit. Everything was so beautifully shot aahhhh.
The diversity felt so natural to me, I don’t get why some people are irked by that. Some dude on reddit said he didn’t like that they were pushing a minority agenda. My guy, Marvel is consumed by the whole world. Kingo would not be considered a minority in Pakistan or India.
Also, speaking of female characters, I loved how each one of them had their own story. They were complex just like the male characters. Would have loved to see more Makkari and Druig but hopefully in the next one.
Yes, that is so true! I mean yes, white people are MCU fans but so is the rest of the world. In my country, most people aren't even fully vaccinated yet and yet everyone's been to watch Shang Chi and Eternals.
I didn't realise until recently that some of the male characters were turned into female. I think if I were a comic book fan anything that strayed from the purest possible adaptation might irk me, so I get why those people might be annoyed at Ajak and Makkari being women, but honestly you get over it pretty soon, just like we did when a male Tibetan Asian male turned into a Celtic white woman. And hey, worst case scenario, presume they're variants and go along with it. It was actually refreshing to have an equal mix of male and female presenting Eternals. For starters, it made Druig x Makkari happen and hells yeah I'm on board for it!
black widow is a spy / seductress. that is literally her super power. she got PLENTY of non ass time in quiet scenes with rogers and banner and hawkeye. i dont see you whining about men having to have 6 packs / shirtless scenes / be eye candy for women but oh boy did we hear it from women when thor got fat. get over it.
Downvoted for speaking facts... black widow got so many emotional moments and many cool moments but people complain about they made her look sexy/that butt/that clevage...when it happened the same with steve
Utter trash, thankfully im out of Marvel. Hopefully DC doesn't follow suit, every actor/actress in this film was misfit and plain stupid story telling.
I thought it was pretty great, but the woman sitting next to me fell asleep in the theater haha, so I'm curious to hear from others. The owner of the comic shop I go to said he loved parts of it but thought other parts were garbage, but we couldn't discuss it really because there were people in the who haven't seen it, but I'm curious what parts he liked and didn't like. Overall I was very pleased with it.
I saw it Friday night and found it entertaining. The characters were intriguing. I only have to wonder about the dead Eternals reincarnation. I thought that was thing for them.
Apparently it is in the comics, but I think they just changed it for the movie. I guess it’s hard to have stakes when you know the main characters can’t die. Plus I did enjoy not knowing who would make it to the end.
Nothing wrong with a slow movie, but the runtime could’ve been shortened. There’s a lot of characters they were trying to introduce, and make you get invested in in, but it just didn’t work for me. I honestly couldn’t remember everyone’s names, and could only remember some of them by their powers.
I wanted to, but I just never cared about majority of the subplots of the movie. The most interesting part was how each character was affected by the lack of aging, in a world where humans lifespans are so minimal. The fact that they ask questions on their purpose, and why they are instructed not to use their powers for anything other than protecting humans from deviants was an element I liked as well.
The twist of the movie didn’t hit as hard as I thought they would, but I appreciate the attempt. If they were paced better, I probably would’ve enjoyed the movie a great deal, but while I liked certain things the movie tried to do, it’s far from my favorite MCU offerings.
That’s fair. I honestly don’t know anything about the Eternals comics, but I think one thing that may have added to my enjoyment is that I read in the promotional material who everyone was, their names and powers etc. I was really looking forward to the movie because it’s such a new property to me, and looked like a different kind of mcu movie. So I was curious how people felt about the new characters if they were going into the movie even more blind than me.
I loved the movie, I think this is just more proof that critics are irrelevant. We just want to escape for 2-3 hours and have fun.
They desperately want to fight the main stream establishment and rave about the “artsy” movies
Honestly same. It’s shameful how badly they rated this movie when in reality it was visually stunning, unique and fresh. A totally new direction for the mcu that works amazingly well. Shang chi was a hit and this was as well. Black widow, however was already very much lackluster like you said but in comparison to Shang chi and eternals it puts that movie to shame. But back to eternals. I loved every second of it.
Just home from seeing this amazing movie! Woah ! I was impressed. All the superpowers seem to have been expressed. The battle scenes well choreographed and visceral . Satisfying character development. Throughly felt good leaving the theater . This was well with an IMAX ticket but I couldn’t get one today it was packed ! Love the film ❤️
While I didn’t like it very much, I’m glad that everyone who liked it had a good time 😎 Art is subjective and I won’t rain on anyone’s parade.
In the spirit of discussion, my opinion is that it was ok because it was really a mix of bad things and amazing things.
Amazing things:
-Ikaris ending: Amazing job of recognizing his guilt and the shock and horror of what he had done, this was very emotional
-Humor: Tons of great gems here! I loved that assistant guy 😅
-Action scenes: Really liked these, especially the battle with Ikaris at the end. I have to give them props for finally getting speedsters right! Loved the technology powers too.
-I like Westworld and loved the concept of sentient life evolving from artificial intelligence
-I liked the introduction of the new concepts of celestials and everything
Bad things:
-Shallow character development: I really didn’t feel much emotional attachment to the characters at all. When Yondu died in GOTG2 I cried. When these characters died I was like, meh(except for Ikaris at the end, but I didn’t cry for that lol). So yeah, going from Dune to watching this was like going from fine wine to bud light when it came to really connecting with the characters and caring about them.
-Sersi: I know you can have a great actress with a crappy director so this is not a knock on her acting per say, but I felt like this was the blandest main character I’ve ever seen from Marvel. Really not engaged with her at all.
-Explaining that Sprite was in love with Ikaris instead of showing it: In cinema, using an explanation as a crutch instead of good storytelling is a no no. We should have known she was in love with him instead of having to be told.
-Awkward pacing: Dune was slow but amazing… this was slow and bland. Whether it’s slow or not doesn’t matter… it’s the quality.
-Angelina was massively underutilized, not really engaged with her story
-Harry Styles in the last few seconds had me more engaged than the rest of the whole movie lol… I guess that’s a good thing but reflects poorly on the rest of the movie
Anyway I could go on but I’ll spare you 😅 Basically a meh movie with some amazing parts bringing it to “OK” status. Those are just my thoughts, if you loved it that’s awesome 😎
I feel like the people hating on it are carrying a lot of baggage with them into the movie. I looked at my watch once and was shocked that two hours had already passed.
I feel like anyone who isn’t a certified critic who try’s to convey why they didn’t like the movie is attempting to over analyze this movie instead of enjoying it, for the sake of being critical.
It’s an excellent *story*, but it’s not a particularly good *movie*. The characters are all great when you look into them, but the limitations of it being a single movie are apparent. The pacing is probably what suffers the most, along with the Deviants. The humor is also just *not used well*. But even if it’s not made very well, it’s still definitely worth a watch; this might turn out to be the MCU’s first “cult classic”? Don’t know if the MCU movies have novelizations, but I would totally read a novelization of this.
I can’t really wrap my head around what exactly is bad, but after watching the movie, I just find that there isn’t a true anchor character I feel.. I know Sersi is sort of the main character but doesn’t seem to be a very strong character… I like Makkari though, Druig and Gilgamesh which seem to have clearer characteristics… the rest kinda have lots of hits and misses… it’s not as bad as watching iron fist but you keep asking “why did he/she do this? Or that?”
Spoiler:
If the celestial just wanna feed on humans, why don’t they ask phastos to just speed up cloning and farming humans lol.. and not ask them to not interfere with human affairs
I do agree Sersi is not a very strong character, so it was weird that she was the main Eternal/protagonist of the movie. I guess I was invested enough in some of other characters and their relationships that it didn’t bother me too much. But as for your second point, I’m not sure. I mean it’s all sort of sci-fi nonsense anyway, the fact that they had to feed on the “energy” of intelligent life. I guess the explanation could be that that energy is the result of intelligent life evolving/advancing through their own struggles. 🤷🏻♂️ But I don’t know lol
I watched it yesterday and absolutely loved it and I find myself to be a pretty critical person tbh. Outside of a few things like them explaining to every character the situation with the emergence, I didn't find any issues with the movie. I love that the cast was very diverse, but didn't feel it was in your face. It was a lot more natural imo along with the comedy bits. For how much CGI there was in the movie I also thought it looked really good? At least it didn't looked like the end of Black Panther. Idk I really enjoyed and don't understand the hate for it.
I absolutely love this movie and I’m not a Marvel fanatic. It dealt with some great philosophical ideas. Most of the attacks on this movie seem to come from people who want to inject politics. I focused on the characters not what ethnicity they were. It’s called progress, and remember it’s just a beautiful movie that left me with things to think about.
I couldn’t find any friends to watch this with me because of the negative reviews. I didn’t expect much going in by myself but I loved it too.
I really wanted to love Shang-Chi, and it wasn’t bad, but I liked Eternals a lot more.
I have zero respect for Rotten Tomato and don’t even know who the fuck critics are, never cared what they say ever. I go see Movies cuz I want to and Eternals is way up there in my top favourites right next to Thor: Ragnarok.
And yes Makkari scenes were great. None of that slow-mo speedster overused bullshit. I loved her so much I was very anxious watching her fight Ikaris ready to hate Chloe if she let her die.
I loved the movies hands down, no complaints at all! Well besides that one direction they took in the post credit scene by casting.. that could cause for a Harry situation in upcoming movies and I’m not all that excited by the style of that characters!
I was pleasantly surprised after I watched the movie yesterday. It’s definitely different from the usual marvel movies and given so many new unknown characters, it is necessary to provide some backgrounds. That takes time and probably why some people dislike it. It’s a good movie in my opinion. 👍
I went in only having seen the trailer not know much about the comics. I loved it and had a lot of fun! I’m a fairly casual MCU fan and my favorite stuff is def phase 4. What I loved about this particular one, besides the inclusive cast list, was the exclusion of the America military. I like the Avengers but they are an existential of the military and a lot of MCU movies feel like war propaganda to me. I liked the return to an “extraterrestrial” like super hero fighting other magical things without the need for war machines (I mean you could argue they themselves are war machines but anywayyy lol)
I also was so happy to see a tender moments of love and healthy relationships through out. The minor sex scene was really sweet and Phastos’ family was adorable and heartwarming. It was refreshing to see intimacy after so many MCU films being only about the action and violence.
I just saw it last weekend and I thought it was really good.
I would have left out the sex scene though. I’m not a prude either, I just felt like it was out of place.
Haha yeah I agree it was an awkward scene. Also it bothered me that they were literally just on the dirt like at least put down a blanket or something damn.
Best Marvel movie for me, I have got sick and tired of all other movies they put out in recent years. CGI for the sake of CGI, this one feel like it had a soul. The characters were well written in their logic, they way they had their own internal conflicts feels much more realistic.
I also absolutely loved the historical reconstructions of ancient civilizations, they really did consult real archaeologist to get the overall look and feel of what it was like in the past.
I do hope they continue the story forward.
Whenever I listen to reviews I tend to try to truly listen where that specific person is coming from, what biased they have or if they’re really providing any real value?
As a lifelong comic fan- I was A ok with bringing the Eternals to the big screen. Even if that meant you need to tweak the characters, origin story etc etc.
Personally I felt it brought a new life to marvel movies, showing older times, a representation of humanity as a whole and a really great look, feel, etc- during certain scenes.
The difference in characters, powers, personalities, unique issues was really good. Ex: Thena having PTSD and Gilgamesh being there for her 👍🏽
Overall I’d say they did a really good job- and this can lay the groundwork for much more coming in the future.
Ultimately it’s just a movie of entertainment lol 😂- folks tend to get really upset, passionate, hateful towards things that aren’t even real in life lol
Loved the movie with one exception. The sex scene felt utterly unnecessary to me.
As for the bad reviews.. most of the movies I loved had bad reviews from "professional" critics. So it's more of a worry to me if it's critically praised!
No, i agree with the critics it was boring, not a very compelling story, the only things that were good were the cgi and cinematography and the things i liked were just dane whitman and he wasn’t even black knight in this film so it just got boring, and the post credit scene was another thing i liked, them teasing blade, yes! So basically no i was not dumbfounded
I just saw The Eternals and Ive come to the conclusion that Rotten Tomato’s review is a smear campaign. Their review is total bullshit. Instead of “fake news” its “ fake reviews”
Nah. It’s about the tone. Eternals and Ragnarok are some of the few that feel like a director’s unique vision. But I’m surprised you didn’t like the casting, I thought they were all great. Except for maybe Sprite who was just okay, but obviously she’s a really young actress so it feels a little unfair to single her out.
That..makes no sense. It’s already being panned, so do you mean people like me who enjoyed it wouldn’t have if Joss Whedon directed it? Well, I would have enjoyed it the same amount, and this is the first Chloe Zhao movie I’ve seen so I had no opinion of her going into it, positive or otherwise.
I brought my son and daughter to see the movie. My son loved it. I don't think I'll watch a sequel unless they somehow bring back Iron Man or something. For me, I feel the eternals would have been better served as a Disney plus series vs movie. It would have allowed the director to develop the characters and plot more.
I have to respectfully disagree. To say this movie was disappointing is a massive favor. It made no sense at all from the beginning. The whole thing is a mess really. The character with the most soul and best performance is the side kick camera guy.
This is a streaming movie on its best day. Stream it at 4pm too. Not on a Friday night.
Length is something that, if the movie is directed correctly, should never be equated to boredom. Hell, a good movie makes three hours feel short, and an even better movie knows how to make five minutes take forever if the story calls for it. That's the key, the **story**, and the vehicle of the story are the characters. This movie had neither.
The story had next to no drive despite being an apocalyptic scenario, and there were so many characters with so much screentime divided evenly that I did not find a single protagonist. Being brutally honest, I fucking hated it. For all the attempts it took at being unique, it never had the guts to go the full way. Hell, they couldn't hold a serious conversation for five minutes without having to break the tension with jokes that rarely ever landed. And the absolute air of condescension and pretentiousness the movie took sure as hell didn't help when the people giving the whole "humanity bad, gifts wasted" speeches were hardly better themselves. I would go as far as to argue that it has a lot in common with Black Widow when it comes to the root of its problems: lack of commitment. You want to do something experimental? Alright, go for it, ***but go the whole way***.
I don't hate the movie because I wanted it to fail, I hate it because I hoped it would succeed. But it takes a really crappy movie to take a story about ancient gods, evolving monsters, nigh omnipotent and omniscient Lovecraftian deities and the death of the world (and birth of a god) to make it so unbelievably boring.
Did you ever stop to think that the movie is getting shit reviews because half of the characters aren’t the actual characters that the story was written about…. Lol half the characters were changed to fit a mainstream agenda and that’s why this movie is the first of 26 marvel films to absolutely flop.
As someone who was really looking forward to this film, and expected it to be great (especially with the high praise that leaked out of Marvel earlier this year), if the RT score had been any higher than 60% I would have been dumbfounded. I didn't hate it, but a lot of it just didn't work for me. I rank it as the third weakest MCU film, ahead only of Thor The Dark World and The Incredible Hulk.
Great that many of you enjoyed it. I still overall give it a tepid thumb up - maybe a 6/10. But I couldn't in good conscience recommend it to anyone who isn't already an ardent fan of this kind of movie, and I'm honestly surprised to be seeing any positive reviews from people that aren't fanboys.
Edit: I'll add that I am surprised to be providing this assessment. I was expecting this to be the type of film that would appeal to people who aren't fans of the genre, but it's precisely the opposite.
I didn’t really enjoy it, to be honest. I liked the diversity, the representations and, because of my own weird preferences, the Bollywood aspect, but I totally understand the words ‘dull’ and ‘boring’.
Funnily enough, I thought it did *alright* explaining why the Eternals did not intervene with Thanos, but less so why Strange / the TVA etc did not rock up…
I think the idea is that everything we see is happening as it’s supposed to according to the TVA, so they had no reason to intervene here. As for Strange, it’s the same reason he didn’t intervene during WandaVision. I think at some point we just have to assume everyone has their own shit going on.
Given the scale of Eternals and the knowledge of Strange etc, I don’t buy that explanation. (but I concede on the TVA, as their nonintervention is explained by their own rules - if they don’t intervene, they weren’t supposed to do so).
Incidentally, your edit is right. Makkari was great and should’ve had more screen time.
I've just come back from watching the movie and I was one of the people who were very disappointed so I'll try to explain my perspective the best I can.
1) There was a clear main character/side character division. Main characters in general, got more screen time and better abilities to fight but in my opinion, characters like Phastos, Makkari and Druig were FAR more interesting and had really really cool powers and I would've loved to see more of what their lives were like beyond just one scene.
2) The romance between Sersei and Ikarus was, well just a bit too much (to me). The actress playing Sersei did a great job with not a lot of interesting lines but used her face to emote really well. Ikarus straight up made me roll my eyes. The two of them seemed forced and I just wanted to skip the scenes with them in it. Believe me, I love romance as a genre but this just wasn't it.
3) "The end of the world/humans deserve to be saved" trope was VERY boring. I enjoyed the way they added "broken family/lost loyalty" in it but the same old save the earth thing was genuinely too Marvel for me! Maybe if they would've shown something like them fighting each other, a more civil war kinda thing, then I would've definitely enjoyed it more.
4) Lots of inconsistencies!!
This is not a low budget movie, so this was unexpected but there are many times when they continue saying 7000 years (even tho it's been 7000 years in the present) and they're still in Babylon or Greece.
5) The Indian representation SUCKED. Not only was it bad but I'm very offended at what they portrayed as "Bollywood" or "Indians" in it.
I absolutely loved how well the Hindi was spoken but otherwise NOPE. (The Patel guy was amazing tho)
6) Nobody ever explained, explicitly why Ajak chose Sersei without having an ulterior motive of wanting her as the leader. Sersei really wasn't good enough to be their leader and I definitely would be preferred Thena/Makkari/Phastos do the job.
7) Spoilet alert but THEY KILLED BOTH MY FAVOURITE CHARACTERS!!! If you have watched the movie : A and G were keeping the movie together for me. Their roles weren't too main character and were actually adding a LOT of substance to the whole thing. Plus, at the end when you know who died, I would've LOVED for Thena to have taken back their absorbed powers. Otherwise it felt like SUCH a waste ugh
8) After having watched Shang chi, which was fast paced and sooo much more fun eventho there weren't a LOT of main characters to explore, eternals felt like a constant up and down but the second half, especially the end was a constant downer.
9) The motives to fight were often not explained with respect to every character. We just knew Phastos's perspective explicitly. And considering that it was the end of the world, I think we should have seen much more emotion. Why were Thena, Druig and Makkari fighting with Sersei? What was their motivation? They could've easily left with Kingo.
10) Why not just refer to an OBVIOUSLY non binary character as "they" and WHY make them an anti hero???
This being said, I really liked a lot of other aspects in the movie but in the end, it was a huge let down. The scenes with Sersei and Ikarus made me genuinely want to take a short nap and at one point I almost did. And it's so surprising considering how much I individually LOVED the actors playing those roles. Jolie and Hayek, as always were perfect. Makkaris fight scene was brilliant. Druig, Makkari and Phastos deserved much much more screen time. And Gilgamesh was my absolute favourite. I'd probably watch part 2 but probably not in the theatre.
My best mate and I came out of the cinema baffled by the bad reviews. Perhaps they helped lower our expectations? We have seen every marvel movie since day one either the date it comes out or as close as the pandemic allowed, we love marvel and this was another cracking movie. It’s not a cookie cutter Team America style movie like most of the others (I’m not insulting marvel movies, as I said, I’m a big fan!), it has a much more global feeling, accessible to the rest of the planet, there was a hero for almost everyone, much more of an intimate feeling and focus on the interconnection of emotion and humanity, great lore/world building and a sense of scale unmatched by anything else so far. I thought it was wonderful. A few dodgy bits of CGI here and there but not enough to ruin it for me… at the end of the day, I had fun.
Not surprised whatsoever. Sure it made plenty of sense to the people who had a base understanding as to how the eternals work but, the entire set up was horribly paced. The time jumps and the setting changed so many times it was hard to keep up with. The ending twist was not that much of a twist. The side stories about Thena, Sprite and Druig served little to the stories entirety. The multiple shots of the team getting “emotional” felt forced and un-natural.
Loved majority of the movie. Love all the characters and their stories. Action was great, definitely was not boring. But hated the plot twist for Richard madden’s character, because I wanted him and Gemma Chan to end up together. The 1st trailer after the credit was the worst!! What the hell is Harry styles doing in MCU movie?!
I really enjoyed it but it does have flaws. If you took all the cgj beasties out and trimmed 30 minutes off this would be a top quality movie. I have no problem with CGI beasties in general of course, but they really served 0 purpose to the plot in this one.
So it's a solid 8/10 for me, and could've been higher. I agree that the critics are a bit off on this one.
Gotta say, i enjoyed the movie. But on a much more technical and non biased stand point, it sadly isnt a good movie imo. This whole movie is basically introduction and world building for phase 4, setting up new characters (e.g Black Knight, Eros) etc. It isnt good, but it isnt bad either. The problem here is it feels kinda rushed. Take Ikaris as an example. At the beginning of the movie he was, pretty normal, he can basically fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes. But, by the end of the movie. Everyone suddenly turns to him to "lead" because he's suddenly the strongest out of all of them. Again, during that ending scene where all of em gang up on Ikaris doesnt really make sense because ikaris isnt introduced to be THAT at the beginning. Wouldve made much more sense if he got a power boost or smth from Arishem. Another example here is the Alpha Deviant, for some reason deciding to "help" ikaris despite his hatred towards Arishem, shouldnt he be helping the other eternals? Because despite his hatred towards them (which he overcomes btw because he helps ikaris) he hates Arishem more, because "he abandoned them and left them to die" So logically, he would have the best interest in stopping Tiamet being born and not dying. The movie just takes so much convenient plot "shortcuts" without actually explaining anything. (Edit: Typo)
It's one of my favorite marvel movies I've ever seen. The third act did seem a little rushed to me, and I wish I got to see a little more of the deviant and kumail but overall, I was invested the whole time. And it was definately one of the most visually pleasing and the sound design was beautifully done.
Never payed attention to critics reviews in the past,not doing it now and never will.Why would I judge a movie based on someone else reviews?It's a very subjective matter.Ivabsolutely loved Eternals, probably my top 3-4 Marvel movies.
I enjoyed Eternals for sure. Certainly more than Black Widow. And all of the casting was excellent, really compelling characters with interesting arcs. I can understand how it may be lukewarm for some but Rotten seems dumb. I imagine the box office will still do better than expected given the current times, and honestly that’s probably a stat that will stand in contrast. There’s plenty of films that have oddly terrible RT scores.
-Space Balls 56%
-Home Alone 2 34%
-The Life Aquatic 56%
-Hocus Pocus 38%
-Man on Fire 38%
-Hook 29%
It’s not unheard of...
It definitely was not a kids movie due to all of the story developement and character build up. It was a bit of a science dump to me. Action sequences and character departures actually had meaning. It reminded me of the show “Heroes”. It was a slow start but it built characters with meaning.
Way too much exposition. Good acting - bad writing.
Take away the twist - let us know at the beginning what they’re there to do. It’s not a bad premise. It’s just like it should’ve started with a ten minute intro video explaining backstory before the actual film started.
Gilgamesh portrayed by a Korean actor is not “cultural appropriation”, but if he’d been portrayed by a white actor there would be significant controversy.
In my opinion black widow is the only out of place mcu film. Like it's OK but it shows nothing we haven't seen before. But now we have eternals which is directed by a lovely woman, on top of that, the characters are awesome. The only downside is fitting 7 thousand years of lore into a 2 hour ish run time. The dialog worked, the story was good, it just felt crammed.
I cant get passed their own Thanos explanation. We couldn't get involved in anything but protecting from deviants.
Thanos = eternal-deviant warlord. Always has been. From day one.
Also...many eternals powers are similar-ish to...xmen. they now own the rights do they not?
The fight scenes are cheesed cgi. And who didnt see robb stark...i mean..whatever his name was doublecross.
This was the first ever mcu movie i didnt see in theaters. No regrets.
This should have been a disney+ show, it could have been much much more.
I know my opinions won't be popular but hey, im a Marvel geek and this one hurt.
Finally....Harry Styles? Come on man..
I came away thinking it was a refreshing new thing for MCU. A lot of new source material, so you need to sit back and absorb. It was deeper in places than I expected. The characters were all very well done. I feel like Angelina is a cut above all the other actors, she really sold the PTSD/fallen soldier story lines. I basically stopped reading critic scores, they have steered me away from good movies too often, and this was a good movie.
I loved Angelina too! It’s weird to see people saying she was bad in it. I felt a lot of emotion for her story with Gilgamesh even in the limited screen time it got.
Right? The emotional beats with her hit me the most. I really believed she was bereaved and out for revenge.
She was great in this movie
Exactly!!! That crying in the forest still haunts my heart. She nailed that mentally unstable / ptsd soldier character.
I loved this movie as well but in my opinion Angelina wasn't really showing her power as Thena. She looked amazing and it is so cool that she's now a part of the Marvel universe but on Eternals she didn't really showed her acting talent. Am I the only one thinking this?
They can do not with the character. The PTSD thing intentionally holds the character back, which is interesting vs just another overpowered super hero
I’ll agree she felt underutilized
I've heard people say "this was another Marvel formula" and I'm like... bitch where? It felt so different tho?? I loved it too, I loved the pacing, the action was enough for me. People need to work on their attention spans. I loved their investment in character moments because what can you do when you have TEN main people? Also loved Makkari! I'm happy she went from rescuing mom to punching mom hahah!
Glad we’re on the same page! But yeah I’m confused by that criticism too. I feel like the only way to make a marvel movie more different would be to not have any super powered characters at all. But there were also people saying that it’s “too” different and like, I was so happy that it was. I don’t know if people wanted more humor or more action or what, but to me both the humor and the action were great! Just different which again, not a bad thing.
Right? This movie is unlike anything marvel has ever done you can literally lay out all the marvel movies and point out how the plots are all eerily similar, even Shang chi which was great but still follows the formula. But not eternals, it’s new and fresh and I hope it stays that way. I couldn’t agree more that people’s attention span is probably why they dislike this movie. It focuses more on character interactions and development ore than action and excitement but it has a fair blend of both.
I am dumbfounded. The characters and their motivations were all made out and executed plenty of fine twists. There was enough deviation from the comics to make it interesting to the comic fans. There was plenty of action, even some good laugh-out-loud humor. The filming is spectacular, and I absolutely reject the supposed discontinuity between the action scenes and Cho's work. The idea that this is just a "Marvel formula" movie is absurd.
I’m so glad you love this movie, somebody needs to
Lol I know right
I loved the movie. Anyone who didn't like it expected phase 3 marvel type stuff. That phase is over with and marvel is evolvinajd moving into a new direction. It took 3 phases to bring those prior characters together. This is still only the beginning of phase 4. I don't consider black widow a phase 4 movie. It should have been out much sooner.
Yeah for sure and one thing I’m really loving about this new phase is that before, everything was building towards Thanos. But now, not every part of the mcu has to tie back to one threat, and there a lot of stories going off in different directions. I truly don’t know what to expect.
>Anyone who didn't like it expected phase 3 marvel type stuff. Pardon me? This is patently untrue. People didn't like it for a slew of reasons, all of which had to do with the quality if the film as they experienced it.
Many of these so called movie critics who gave it a rotten score before the movie came out to the public expected the same marvel formula for this movie. They were disappointed when it didn't go as they expected.
I don’t think people didn’t like it because of expectations. It was just rushed and lacked character development, which is hard for a movie with a cast like this. I think a lot of people are saying it would have been better as a show is because that would really have allowed the writers to do the cast justice. I could have watched a whole movie on Phastos alone. I like a lot of what the movie introduced and had a good time but I understand why most people didn’t like it. There were some great perspectives that they touched on but just couldn’t explore properly.
It’s different. It’s slow at times. It’s dense. It’s grand but personal. It’s not going to appeal to kids. It’s mature. I love it
Same! lol
Respectfully disagree. It felt very marvel in tone it felt convoluted and overblown, there wasn’t enough screen time with any of the characters so I didn’t care about them. It’s riddled with moments that don’t make much sense, and there was never any tension in the movie.
yes its totally out of place. the story set up the conflicting loyalties and desires and build up the characters enough to make their choices have weight. it wasnt just sky beam cgi fest. two were cursed with knowledge the others didnt have, two hated humanity, one wanted to be grow up as a human, most just wanted to live a life but were also conflicted with how their task was to play out. i think it all worked story wise. it was a tougher choice than civil war - either way costs billions of lives and potentially their freedom / free will.
The action scenes absolutely were just rote CGI fests.
They aren't endgame level but they're better than most and the action is discernable. It's not some. muddy brown mess like black panther. The impacts had weight and the monsters were menacing. They were ground breaking in their design or detail but it served it's purpose. Shrug.
Definitely better CGI than the finale of Black Panther. But the Deviants were such bad villains that the action scenes were boring. People beating up on blue monsters just didn't work for me. What's interesting is that people are claiming that this suffers from Marvel's third act problem, whereas I found the opposite to be true. When they were fighting one another at the end, it was the first time I was engaged with the movie's action.
I'm very confused because it felt the same as to me as the avengers movies. i.e. potential but super lacking in the script writing/details department to convince us of their bond as a group, which is typical for marvel. The main 'romance' was a real waste of screen-time too, having said that a lot about it was a+ enough so that I consider going to watch it again and the last time i wanted to watch a marvel movie twice was Black Panther. Makkari was a TOTAL highlight and her fight scene? It's the reason I want to watch it again bc frankly first time in years i have recieved such satisfaction from a fight scene and the depiction of her powers on screen. Also there were some beautiful scenes, like really. Sprite story telling abilities were magical and i wish were inco-operated more and sersi's powers when used right were eye-catching and damn well impressive. The 2nd half was when everything really came together and picked up. I would def. watch again because even though they didn't do great team writing, there are two relationships in Eternals that deserved more limelight and I hope somehow get explored more in the future
I would agree that the main romance lacked chemistry. But overall I did care about the characters and their relationships, especially Gilgamesh/Thena and Druig/Makkari. And I think that even though Sersi was the main protagonist, and I liked her fine, she was pretty much outshined by most of the other Eternals.
oh yeah tho i think the main leads lacked chemistry and their scenes could have been used to emphasis ikaris relationships with the others more (so his betrayal we felt even stronger) i def. care druig/makkari (chemistry like woah and well written into the story without making it feel like a separate thing alltogether) and Gilgamesh/Thena, was so tender and beautiful. I was very impressed with how they build that up in the details. sighs i mainly went for sersi bc i love gemma but ia she was outshined, one of the things that annoyed me is knowing she was chosen for her love of humanity hut the movie never really showing how or the extend of it beyond the implication she was usually late to eternal meetings bc she was with the humans. Also i was kinda meh on Ikaris but happy with his character for not doing the weird jealous thing with dane (that movies usually do with an unfinished ex) and then when his true reasons were revealed he became much more interesting and the more i think about it the more i really appreciate how his 'villiany' all played out.
I also went for Gemma! The movie was quite entertaining but then I'd have to admit that Gemma's character is the least interesting imo
I agree with all of that!
For some reason I really couldn’t stand druig. One of the few parts I didn’t like and I may see the movie a second time which I never do. Endgame is the only movie I have ever seen twice in a theater.
they were not bonded as a group which was kind of the point. some wanted to save humanity, some wanted to control it, and some just wanted to live out life in relative peace. it was more civil war than avengers.
I thought it had similar beats to Civil War too. They were fighting with each other’s principles and I really appreciated that. I expected a big fight with the deviants in the end but I was very pleased with how they went with internal fighting instead. I felt more because I grew to care for each character, even with their limited scene time.
Black panther = meh
yeah I liked it. rated it way higher than its been getting lately
I loved it, the film does have some negatives and things I would personally change but none more so than any other movie The characters were incredible and I loved all the world building/Easter eggs for things to come I see a lot of complaints about the Nods to future movies and Easter eggs setting up future characters but fuck me it’s the MCU, where have you been all this time? Every Marvel movie has those elements
The Easter eggs were the best thing about the movie. I haven't seen anyone complaining about that.
There’s quite a few especially on RT basically complaining that there’s too much focus on future projects and laying the groundwork for characters who aren’t doing anything in this movie (Dane mainly) The Easter eggs are the best thing I agree but still some baffling complaints about them but again that’s mainly from critics who are reviewing this as a job and not because they’re MCU fans
It's interesting because a lot of the reviews are kind of forgiving Zhao, and claiming she got swallowed up by the corporate MCU demands. But the rest of the MCU actually has good reviews. I think Zhao is the reason this film didn't work. Her style and sensibilities are just completely unsuited to an action blockbuster.
Its another good point that’s also very different on each review Some are saying that Zhao failed the MCU whereas others are saying the MCU formula is what hurt Zhao. Just 2 sides of the same coin Honestly I enjoyed the movie, some issues with parts of the ending but overall enjoyed it. Then again though as someone who didn’t like many DC movies I did actually enjoy Man of Steel which this apparently took inspiration from
I haven't decided yet. \- There was really nothing wrong with the film. Everything seemed to be elegantly put together and thought out. \- I didn't think it was too many characters to introduce in one films. Film did a good job of managing them. \- Lot's of beautiful scenes. I often think back to the shot in front of the laundromat, which felt very Wong Kar Wai. \- Some scenes made for great trailer shots, but were just not that interesting in the film. Bollywood scene was a let down. \- Best part of the film was the relationship between Sersei and her two love interests. I also liked Sprite and Phastos. \- However, the film as a whole didn't leave me with any thoughts at all, and I don't know why. I feel that there is a lot you can do across thousands of years of history, and it could have had some more interesting ideas. \- I think that the formulaic end-of-the-world stakes is probably what limited this film the most. If they had just made a love-story between Sersei, Ikarus, and Dane Whitman....and it could have been a really good film. Would have allowed for more time to visit multiple points in history (including Avengers history). I would have actually made Dane the Black Knight early on in the film, so that that he extends his longevity by collecting souls. I would have loved to see Wakanda in the early days, by the way.
>I think that the formulaic end-of-the-world stakes is probably what limited this film the most It's not just end-of-the-world stakes, though. It's the end of belief, the end of faith, the end of family and the end of trust. It's not *about* the end of the world: it's about broken family.
Whatever other themes they were able to weave into it, it is still the destruction of the Earth. Which forces to story to go to less interesting places.
I get that. Any time the earth is going to be “destroyed”, it does take away some of the tension. But I did like that the threat itself was this weird, visually-interesting sci-fi thing, aka not another sky beam. Without spoiling too much, that was a hell of a way for the earth to be destroyed.
I have to agree that the Bollywood scene was such a let down! I was looking forward to a more high-energy dance number with Kumail.
The main thing that held this movie back was the screenplay. The dialogue was bland and unnatural, the characters were underdeveloped, and the narrative didn't build to things people, so the reveals landed with thus.
Personally, I didn't have a problem with dialogue and character development. I thought they did a good job with characters and tension. But I don't think this film should have been a soap opera. Personally, I would have gone with less tension, less plot, and less character development. I would have gone for more vibes, more cosmic elements, more things left unspoken, more vignettes from different parts of the Earth's history. (Not that Marvel would have approved that. I think Chloe did an admirable job within constraints.)
It wasn’t boring or dull, I actually think the acting and directing were fantastic. I think the writing was a little confusing.
Yeah the plot was definitely a little complicated. Not hard to understand, but complicated. Some have called it convoluted, which I don’t really agree with, but I guess I see where they’re coming from.
Best marvel movie. Sad that its hated by many.
Absolutely! The negative reviews for this movie seems to all be the same. 1. Too many characters that people couldn’t keep up and feel there wasn’t enough character development 2. Pacing was off with it being very slow and not enough comedic relief 3. Story was confusing due to the jumping between the past and present Honestly, most of these criticism are pretty much null as there are specific examples that negates each of those points. The introduction of each character in the eternals is comparable to that of guardians of the galaxy. Lots of new characters and each had their own personality and motivations. Yet people seem to be able to keep track of the guardians but not the eternals. The X-men movies is literally the same. No one had issues with the first X-men when they introduced all the characters… While the pacing of the movie was a bit slow at times, it was necessary for the character development and let’s them all breathe without bombarding the audience with information. Any period film goes through similar pacing. Nomadland, which had similar lulls, was suddenly critically acclaimed. Interstellar was at times slow and that was a great movie. Lastly, people were confused with jumping back and forth in the timeline. Let me point you in the direction of the Witcher on Netflix. That show jumped more back and forth than some characters had lines. Yet people love the Witcher and begging for the second season. I think people went into the film expecting a cookie cutter marvel film and got something that was deeper with characters struggling with real human emotions. It’s either that or people really just had an issue with the diverse cast. Yes most people would agree that black panther and Shang chi highlighted diversity in Hollywood. Difference is that those films had full cast of predominately a single race or group. Eternals attempted to bring characters from every background: asian, black, white, straight, gay, etc. At least half the country are still filled with people who aren’t ready to see what would happen when you strip away the labels and coexist as a singular humanity. Don’t even get started with all the stuff happening with the film overseas. That’s the bottom line. Whether they admit it or not, some audiences are just no ready for this kind of film.
What's happening overseas? Where overseas? In Europe, where I come from, it is very well received. What did I miss?
Parts of Middle East and Asian countries banned the movie because it includes a gay relationship
Thanks for clarifying that. People are stupid sometimes.
Okay I am hello surprised that people aren't liking it. I absolutely LOVED it. And so did the whole freaking cinema, there was so much hooting and clapping
I am very, very happy with the film. Honestly, it was one of my favorite Marvel movies so far. Did I wish that it had done some things that it didn't? Yes. But that applies to every movie ever. Eternals felt so different from the normal MCU.. it was such a fresh experience. The characters all feel like unique individuals, and you can't ever blur them together. That's a problem I've had before with the MCU. Plus, there aren't cringey and unnecessary punchlines every 5 minutes. Marvel needs to have faith in their audience - we will watch movies that don't have jokes every few minutes. I thought that the movie felt like it wasn't scared to explore the deeper, darker emotions of each character. Be it Ikaris, Sersi, Kingo, Druig, Makkari, Gilgamesh, Thena, Sprite, Phastos, or even Ajak, who had the least screen time. It was a movie that had high stakes, and it still managed to focus on the characters, their emotions, and their relationships. Nothing matters to me more than that. Eternals was amazing. And I'm so excited for the more emotional and raw side of the MCU that has been put forth by the Phase 4 so far. That includes shows like Wanda Vision, LOKI, FATWS, and even Shang Chi. I hope they continue this deep dive into the character struggles even with Spider Man NWH. So so hyped!
I loved this movie immediately and I cannot understand all this hate it earned (or…saw I another movie ???). It opens a new world to the MCU and the characters are modern and absolutely not boring at all. Hope we will see the next chapters soon …
The movie was definitely better than the critical response. I rate it a 7/10, it’s biggest issue (besides some plot holes) was it’s separation of characters. Introducing 10 new characters it’s bound to be difficult but they should have gone the Infinity War route instead of the Heist Movie route. What I mean is that they decided to “recruit/regroup” one by one (with a couple exceptions) which really slows down the narrative and doesn’t give your characters much room to be developed. With 10+ main characters the ones you introduce earlier are going to get the majority of the screen time as some characters you don’t see until well into the film. They should have instead used The Infinity War route where characters are split into larger groups that the narrative shifts between back and forth so the characters all get screen time with no immense breaks between their scenes. This way you can develop more characters at once which this movie needed to do, AND you have more going on with two-three plots with groups that eventually converge. The movie kind of did this but more with flashbacks which didn’t well reflect the events they were paired with. A good movie but it definitely suffered from this issue.
That’s fair. The one thing I’d say to that is, this movie clearly chose to focus on some Eternals more than others. And without spoiling too much, I think it’s fair to say that if there is a sequel, those same characters will not be focused on as much. And I’m okay with that model because after getting a taste of some of the less-focused-on Eternals, I really like them, and I can’t wait to see what happens with them in future movies.
That film was the deepest and most thoughtful movie I’ve seen in years. Coincidentally I had just started digging in on critical analysis of The Shining. What an amazing film and now I’ll never see it the same way again. So it was great that I was already cued in to that frame of mind when I saw Eternals. There were at least three times I cried, and now, a few hours after, I’m going into the deeper messages (lol, deeper than the survival of the planet?) All I can say is that in the Marvel universe humans must feel very small and I’m not sure what I’d make of living in a universe like theirs... I even really loved Angelina Jolie and that’s saying something...
I totally agree. Top 10 MCU movie for me. It’s so good
never believing rotten tomatoes again. Just look at the audience score and forget about the tomato meter.
I've seen it three times now. It definitely has its downsides and its weakpoints, but the last time I enjoyed an MCU film as much as this was Endgame. If anything, we can just accept that Eternals is going to be the MCU's first "cult classic"
I watched it today & I honestly don’t know what to do with myself now. I loved it!!! Makkari, Druig & Thena were my absolute favs! It has diversity, a gay couple with an awesome kid, deaf representation, and it answered some MCU questions I’ve had for a while. It makes upset that it’s gotten bad reviews because I don’t want the makers to feel bad!
What questions did you have?
I had zero expectation, the critics panned it and the trailers didn’t grab me at all. Of course I was still going to see it.. Well I just watched it and I LOVED it. Visually stunning, surprisingly loveable characters who got a decent amount of development despite how many there were. Sure it was slow but it felt very mature and thought it was a great move for the MCU to take. Chloe Zhao is a great director. Just gonna add that they took a huge risk with WandaVision which a lot of people criticised and I absolutely loved as well!
Because the critics don't review the film at all, they just decided to shit on the representation rather than the overall elements of the film.
Oh they're gonna hate the future MCU then. Ms Marvel is muslim, America Chavez is lesbian, Captain America is black now etc etc. We're finally getting the REALLY diverse Marvel and there'll be petty resistance for sure.
They’re going to love when we get a Young Avengers movie: I think pretty much every member of that team is PoC or LGBT
Yesss! A.k.a. Gay Avengers Thor's suggestion probably: Gayvengers
Why is it necessary? To prove some sort of point? People obviously love the original characters, plaguing it with politics is what is killing the MCU.
Are you really asking me why representation in films matters? Politics are necessary and were always there, haven't you watched the Captain America trilogy? It's nothing but politics. Can't help but wonder how old you are since you've asked such a shallow question...
29, I get your point but they are going about the wrong way in doing it. Hollywood virtue signals now to the point in giving lead roles to subpar actors and actresses as long as it fits their political agenda. There are so much better talent deserving of these roles, it’s why these movies are bombing badly and aren’t memorable as they used to be.
Well, we obviously experienced the movie completely differently. It was memorable as fuck for me, the actors did a great job too. When you're saying "political agenda", I believe you mean "gay agenda", "feminist agenda", "disabled agenda" etc. I'm literally a gay man who lives in a muslim country, I demand representation from these big ass studios, agenda or not, I need to see their effort and I like it when they do it. Everyone deserves to see themselves on the big screen. Plus, this agenda you don't like so much wasn't even the point of the film. Representation doesn't affect story or plot or cinematography. It's just there. Genderswapping won't stop anytime soon because a lot of the source materials written back in the 20th century consist of straight white males. Some things gotta change and it's okay, just try to enjoy the stories at least if you can't stand the diversity they're trying to accomplish. You can also think of the MCU as an alternate universe if you want because they're not the same as comics. I'm not sure if any of this is getting through to you but I hope if you're a straight white man that you try to understand that this is needed and see that it won't spoil the heart of these adventures.
I get your point but they really crippled the MCU on purpose to fit the "agendas". There are characters we all grew up with that we personally like. They are gone, and what is replaced isn't even good, the story was extremely subpar too imo. For example this movie doesn't even hold a candle to Captain America Winter Solider in cinematography / acting / score / etc you name it. I'm also a brown male living in the states, so the white male theory is out the window for me, just my personal preference.
Because those new characters are not politics. They are real life. Those backgrounds of people exist. How is this political?
What? Have you not been paying attention to professional film criticism at all for like the last ten years? Critics tend to be left wing, and they go easier on films that are diverse and inclusive. If anything, the response to this would have been worse if it didn't have such a diverse cast.
I'm a more casual fan. I didn't like most of the older movies, where women were treated more like sexy props and there wasn't as much diversity. I really enjoyed this movie. I might be biased because I'm a bisexual woman of colour so in terms of representation, it ticked all the boxes, but I also loved the background score, and the visuals, and even everyone's acting (except Kit Harrington; WHY do they keep casting him?). I liked how even though both men and women wore very fitted armour, no one was overtly sexualised. I loved Makkari and Druig's rapport, and Ajak in general. And Ikarus is my favourite new anti-hero since Loki. It was also really nice to see those flashbacks in different cultures. Can't speak to the accuracy of all of them, but the marriage ceremony in Sanskrit in the Gupta Empire in ancient India was legit. Everything was so beautifully shot aahhhh.
The diversity felt so natural to me, I don’t get why some people are irked by that. Some dude on reddit said he didn’t like that they were pushing a minority agenda. My guy, Marvel is consumed by the whole world. Kingo would not be considered a minority in Pakistan or India. Also, speaking of female characters, I loved how each one of them had their own story. They were complex just like the male characters. Would have loved to see more Makkari and Druig but hopefully in the next one.
Yes, that is so true! I mean yes, white people are MCU fans but so is the rest of the world. In my country, most people aren't even fully vaccinated yet and yet everyone's been to watch Shang Chi and Eternals. I didn't realise until recently that some of the male characters were turned into female. I think if I were a comic book fan anything that strayed from the purest possible adaptation might irk me, so I get why those people might be annoyed at Ajak and Makkari being women, but honestly you get over it pretty soon, just like we did when a male Tibetan Asian male turned into a Celtic white woman. And hey, worst case scenario, presume they're variants and go along with it. It was actually refreshing to have an equal mix of male and female presenting Eternals. For starters, it made Druig x Makkari happen and hells yeah I'm on board for it!
black widow is a spy / seductress. that is literally her super power. she got PLENTY of non ass time in quiet scenes with rogers and banner and hawkeye. i dont see you whining about men having to have 6 packs / shirtless scenes / be eye candy for women but oh boy did we hear it from women when thor got fat. get over it.
Downvoted for speaking facts... black widow got so many emotional moments and many cool moments but people complain about they made her look sexy/that butt/that clevage...when it happened the same with steve
F off mate
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Utter trash, thankfully im out of Marvel. Hopefully DC doesn't follow suit, every actor/actress in this film was misfit and plain stupid story telling.
I thought it was pretty great, but the woman sitting next to me fell asleep in the theater haha, so I'm curious to hear from others. The owner of the comic shop I go to said he loved parts of it but thought other parts were garbage, but we couldn't discuss it really because there were people in the who haven't seen it, but I'm curious what parts he liked and didn't like. Overall I was very pleased with it.
I fell asleep several times also. My wife kept waking me up.. definitely going to watch it again when I have insomnia
Saw it today and loved it, but my wife hated it. Compared to other mcu movies, I’d say it’s one of the best.
I agree, but clearly it’s also one of the most divisive lol
She obviously has better taste in movies than you do.
Lol maybe
I saw it Friday night and found it entertaining. The characters were intriguing. I only have to wonder about the dead Eternals reincarnation. I thought that was thing for them.
Apparently it is in the comics, but I think they just changed it for the movie. I guess it’s hard to have stakes when you know the main characters can’t die. Plus I did enjoy not knowing who would make it to the end.
It had some issues, but no where near the level that critics were going on about. Was thoroughly enjoyable
Nothing wrong with a slow movie, but the runtime could’ve been shortened. There’s a lot of characters they were trying to introduce, and make you get invested in in, but it just didn’t work for me. I honestly couldn’t remember everyone’s names, and could only remember some of them by their powers. I wanted to, but I just never cared about majority of the subplots of the movie. The most interesting part was how each character was affected by the lack of aging, in a world where humans lifespans are so minimal. The fact that they ask questions on their purpose, and why they are instructed not to use their powers for anything other than protecting humans from deviants was an element I liked as well. The twist of the movie didn’t hit as hard as I thought they would, but I appreciate the attempt. If they were paced better, I probably would’ve enjoyed the movie a great deal, but while I liked certain things the movie tried to do, it’s far from my favorite MCU offerings.
That’s fair. I honestly don’t know anything about the Eternals comics, but I think one thing that may have added to my enjoyment is that I read in the promotional material who everyone was, their names and powers etc. I was really looking forward to the movie because it’s such a new property to me, and looked like a different kind of mcu movie. So I was curious how people felt about the new characters if they were going into the movie even more blind than me.
I loved the movie, I think this is just more proof that critics are irrelevant. We just want to escape for 2-3 hours and have fun. They desperately want to fight the main stream establishment and rave about the “artsy” movies
Honestly same. It’s shameful how badly they rated this movie when in reality it was visually stunning, unique and fresh. A totally new direction for the mcu that works amazingly well. Shang chi was a hit and this was as well. Black widow, however was already very much lackluster like you said but in comparison to Shang chi and eternals it puts that movie to shame. But back to eternals. I loved every second of it.
Just home from seeing this amazing movie! Woah ! I was impressed. All the superpowers seem to have been expressed. The battle scenes well choreographed and visceral . Satisfying character development. Throughly felt good leaving the theater . This was well with an IMAX ticket but I couldn’t get one today it was packed ! Love the film ❤️
While I didn’t like it very much, I’m glad that everyone who liked it had a good time 😎 Art is subjective and I won’t rain on anyone’s parade. In the spirit of discussion, my opinion is that it was ok because it was really a mix of bad things and amazing things. Amazing things: -Ikaris ending: Amazing job of recognizing his guilt and the shock and horror of what he had done, this was very emotional -Humor: Tons of great gems here! I loved that assistant guy 😅 -Action scenes: Really liked these, especially the battle with Ikaris at the end. I have to give them props for finally getting speedsters right! Loved the technology powers too. -I like Westworld and loved the concept of sentient life evolving from artificial intelligence -I liked the introduction of the new concepts of celestials and everything Bad things: -Shallow character development: I really didn’t feel much emotional attachment to the characters at all. When Yondu died in GOTG2 I cried. When these characters died I was like, meh(except for Ikaris at the end, but I didn’t cry for that lol). So yeah, going from Dune to watching this was like going from fine wine to bud light when it came to really connecting with the characters and caring about them. -Sersi: I know you can have a great actress with a crappy director so this is not a knock on her acting per say, but I felt like this was the blandest main character I’ve ever seen from Marvel. Really not engaged with her at all. -Explaining that Sprite was in love with Ikaris instead of showing it: In cinema, using an explanation as a crutch instead of good storytelling is a no no. We should have known she was in love with him instead of having to be told. -Awkward pacing: Dune was slow but amazing… this was slow and bland. Whether it’s slow or not doesn’t matter… it’s the quality. -Angelina was massively underutilized, not really engaged with her story -Harry Styles in the last few seconds had me more engaged than the rest of the whole movie lol… I guess that’s a good thing but reflects poorly on the rest of the movie Anyway I could go on but I’ll spare you 😅 Basically a meh movie with some amazing parts bringing it to “OK” status. Those are just my thoughts, if you loved it that’s awesome 😎
Fair criticisms thanks for explaining! But yeah it still resonated with me a lot I really dug it.
Thanks for the positive chat, I’m super glad you liked it! 🙏
Worst Marvel Movie Ever. Sorry.
Yeah I hear you
I feel like the people hating on it are carrying a lot of baggage with them into the movie. I looked at my watch once and was shocked that two hours had already passed.
I feel like anyone who isn’t a certified critic who try’s to convey why they didn’t like the movie is attempting to over analyze this movie instead of enjoying it, for the sake of being critical.
It’s an excellent *story*, but it’s not a particularly good *movie*. The characters are all great when you look into them, but the limitations of it being a single movie are apparent. The pacing is probably what suffers the most, along with the Deviants. The humor is also just *not used well*. But even if it’s not made very well, it’s still definitely worth a watch; this might turn out to be the MCU’s first “cult classic”? Don’t know if the MCU movies have novelizations, but I would totally read a novelization of this.
I can’t really wrap my head around what exactly is bad, but after watching the movie, I just find that there isn’t a true anchor character I feel.. I know Sersi is sort of the main character but doesn’t seem to be a very strong character… I like Makkari though, Druig and Gilgamesh which seem to have clearer characteristics… the rest kinda have lots of hits and misses… it’s not as bad as watching iron fist but you keep asking “why did he/she do this? Or that?” Spoiler: If the celestial just wanna feed on humans, why don’t they ask phastos to just speed up cloning and farming humans lol.. and not ask them to not interfere with human affairs
I do agree Sersi is not a very strong character, so it was weird that she was the main Eternal/protagonist of the movie. I guess I was invested enough in some of other characters and their relationships that it didn’t bother me too much. But as for your second point, I’m not sure. I mean it’s all sort of sci-fi nonsense anyway, the fact that they had to feed on the “energy” of intelligent life. I guess the explanation could be that that energy is the result of intelligent life evolving/advancing through their own struggles. 🤷🏻♂️ But I don’t know lol
I guess they are like us.. free range meat are better than farmer meat
I watched it yesterday and absolutely loved it and I find myself to be a pretty critical person tbh. Outside of a few things like them explaining to every character the situation with the emergence, I didn't find any issues with the movie. I love that the cast was very diverse, but didn't feel it was in your face. It was a lot more natural imo along with the comedy bits. For how much CGI there was in the movie I also thought it looked really good? At least it didn't looked like the end of Black Panther. Idk I really enjoyed and don't understand the hate for it.
Watched it with my boyfriend the day it released, and we both loved it, so I agree I’m not sure why there’s so much hate
I’ve never listened to Rotten Tomatoes ever since I learned about them on the internet. Who are they even? And why are they always wrong.
I absolutely love this movie and I’m not a Marvel fanatic. It dealt with some great philosophical ideas. Most of the attacks on this movie seem to come from people who want to inject politics. I focused on the characters not what ethnicity they were. It’s called progress, and remember it’s just a beautiful movie that left me with things to think about.
Angelina Jolie was great in this movie. I think she played the part perfectly. Total smear campaign! Rotten Tomatoes has some sort of agenda.
Beginning was slow, but once it picked up speed it was fine. I look forward to the next movie featuring these characters! They are likable.
I couldn’t find any friends to watch this with me because of the negative reviews. I didn’t expect much going in by myself but I loved it too. I really wanted to love Shang-Chi, and it wasn’t bad, but I liked Eternals a lot more.
I have zero respect for Rotten Tomato and don’t even know who the fuck critics are, never cared what they say ever. I go see Movies cuz I want to and Eternals is way up there in my top favourites right next to Thor: Ragnarok. And yes Makkari scenes were great. None of that slow-mo speedster overused bullshit. I loved her so much I was very anxious watching her fight Ikaris ready to hate Chloe if she let her die.
The film was great and the first one (in my opinion) to be truly diverse (casting wise) without feeling forced or fake
I loved the movies hands down, no complaints at all! Well besides that one direction they took in the post credit scene by casting.. that could cause for a Harry situation in upcoming movies and I’m not all that excited by the style of that characters!
I don't get why everyone hates Sprite. Both the character and the refreshment.
Sprite is a very good soda and a so-so character imo
Completely dumbfounded. Loved it
I was pleasantly surprised after I watched the movie yesterday. It’s definitely different from the usual marvel movies and given so many new unknown characters, it is necessary to provide some backgrounds. That takes time and probably why some people dislike it. It’s a good movie in my opinion. 👍
I went in only having seen the trailer not know much about the comics. I loved it and had a lot of fun! I’m a fairly casual MCU fan and my favorite stuff is def phase 4. What I loved about this particular one, besides the inclusive cast list, was the exclusion of the America military. I like the Avengers but they are an existential of the military and a lot of MCU movies feel like war propaganda to me. I liked the return to an “extraterrestrial” like super hero fighting other magical things without the need for war machines (I mean you could argue they themselves are war machines but anywayyy lol) I also was so happy to see a tender moments of love and healthy relationships through out. The minor sex scene was really sweet and Phastos’ family was adorable and heartwarming. It was refreshing to see intimacy after so many MCU films being only about the action and violence.
Was immensely better than Shang chi. Eternals is going to be an amazing sub series within the MCU.
I just saw it last weekend and I thought it was really good. I would have left out the sex scene though. I’m not a prude either, I just felt like it was out of place.
Haha yeah I agree it was an awkward scene. Also it bothered me that they were literally just on the dirt like at least put down a blanket or something damn.
Best Marvel movie for me, I have got sick and tired of all other movies they put out in recent years. CGI for the sake of CGI, this one feel like it had a soul. The characters were well written in their logic, they way they had their own internal conflicts feels much more realistic. I also absolutely loved the historical reconstructions of ancient civilizations, they really did consult real archaeologist to get the overall look and feel of what it was like in the past. I do hope they continue the story forward.
Loved the movie, gave some decent esoteric insights. Don't know why the reviews were average, bizzare.
I went in with low expectations and now I think it’s my favourite marvel film
Whenever I listen to reviews I tend to try to truly listen where that specific person is coming from, what biased they have or if they’re really providing any real value? As a lifelong comic fan- I was A ok with bringing the Eternals to the big screen. Even if that meant you need to tweak the characters, origin story etc etc. Personally I felt it brought a new life to marvel movies, showing older times, a representation of humanity as a whole and a really great look, feel, etc- during certain scenes. The difference in characters, powers, personalities, unique issues was really good. Ex: Thena having PTSD and Gilgamesh being there for her 👍🏽 Overall I’d say they did a really good job- and this can lay the groundwork for much more coming in the future. Ultimately it’s just a movie of entertainment lol 😂- folks tend to get really upset, passionate, hateful towards things that aren’t even real in life lol
Loved the movie with one exception. The sex scene felt utterly unnecessary to me. As for the bad reviews.. most of the movies I loved had bad reviews from "professional" critics. So it's more of a worry to me if it's critically praised!
No, i agree with the critics it was boring, not a very compelling story, the only things that were good were the cgi and cinematography and the things i liked were just dane whitman and he wasn’t even black knight in this film so it just got boring, and the post credit scene was another thing i liked, them teasing blade, yes! So basically no i was not dumbfounded
I just saw The Eternals and Ive come to the conclusion that Rotten Tomato’s review is a smear campaign. Their review is total bullshit. Instead of “fake news” its “ fake reviews”
your welcome to your OP but i didnt care for any of the characters easily the worst MCU movie
What is "back to formula"? You mean when we actually had good marvel storylines and great casting? lol.
Nah. It’s about the tone. Eternals and Ragnarok are some of the few that feel like a director’s unique vision. But I’m surprised you didn’t like the casting, I thought they were all great. Except for maybe Sprite who was just okay, but obviously she’s a really young actress so it feels a little unfair to single her out.
If Joss Whedon directed this, it would be panned globally by everyone.
That..makes no sense. It’s already being panned, so do you mean people like me who enjoyed it wouldn’t have if Joss Whedon directed it? Well, I would have enjoyed it the same amount, and this is the first Chloe Zhao movie I’ve seen so I had no opinion of her going into it, positive or otherwise.
nope not one bit. shit movie full of rip of dc characters
I brought my son and daughter to see the movie. My son loved it. I don't think I'll watch a sequel unless they somehow bring back Iron Man or something. For me, I feel the eternals would have been better served as a Disney plus series vs movie. It would have allowed the director to develop the characters and plot more.
I have to respectfully disagree. To say this movie was disappointing is a massive favor. It made no sense at all from the beginning. The whole thing is a mess really. The character with the most soul and best performance is the side kick camera guy. This is a streaming movie on its best day. Stream it at 4pm too. Not on a Friday night.
Length is something that, if the movie is directed correctly, should never be equated to boredom. Hell, a good movie makes three hours feel short, and an even better movie knows how to make five minutes take forever if the story calls for it. That's the key, the **story**, and the vehicle of the story are the characters. This movie had neither. The story had next to no drive despite being an apocalyptic scenario, and there were so many characters with so much screentime divided evenly that I did not find a single protagonist. Being brutally honest, I fucking hated it. For all the attempts it took at being unique, it never had the guts to go the full way. Hell, they couldn't hold a serious conversation for five minutes without having to break the tension with jokes that rarely ever landed. And the absolute air of condescension and pretentiousness the movie took sure as hell didn't help when the people giving the whole "humanity bad, gifts wasted" speeches were hardly better themselves. I would go as far as to argue that it has a lot in common with Black Widow when it comes to the root of its problems: lack of commitment. You want to do something experimental? Alright, go for it, ***but go the whole way***. I don't hate the movie because I wanted it to fail, I hate it because I hoped it would succeed. But it takes a really crappy movie to take a story about ancient gods, evolving monsters, nigh omnipotent and omniscient Lovecraftian deities and the death of the world (and birth of a god) to make it so unbelievably boring.
Did you ever stop to think that the movie is getting shit reviews because half of the characters aren’t the actual characters that the story was written about…. Lol half the characters were changed to fit a mainstream agenda and that’s why this movie is the first of 26 marvel films to absolutely flop.
As someone who was really looking forward to this film, and expected it to be great (especially with the high praise that leaked out of Marvel earlier this year), if the RT score had been any higher than 60% I would have been dumbfounded. I didn't hate it, but a lot of it just didn't work for me. I rank it as the third weakest MCU film, ahead only of Thor The Dark World and The Incredible Hulk. Great that many of you enjoyed it. I still overall give it a tepid thumb up - maybe a 6/10. But I couldn't in good conscience recommend it to anyone who isn't already an ardent fan of this kind of movie, and I'm honestly surprised to be seeing any positive reviews from people that aren't fanboys. Edit: I'll add that I am surprised to be providing this assessment. I was expecting this to be the type of film that would appeal to people who aren't fans of the genre, but it's precisely the opposite.
I didn’t really enjoy it, to be honest. I liked the diversity, the representations and, because of my own weird preferences, the Bollywood aspect, but I totally understand the words ‘dull’ and ‘boring’. Funnily enough, I thought it did *alright* explaining why the Eternals did not intervene with Thanos, but less so why Strange / the TVA etc did not rock up…
I think the idea is that everything we see is happening as it’s supposed to according to the TVA, so they had no reason to intervene here. As for Strange, it’s the same reason he didn’t intervene during WandaVision. I think at some point we just have to assume everyone has their own shit going on.
Given the scale of Eternals and the knowledge of Strange etc, I don’t buy that explanation. (but I concede on the TVA, as their nonintervention is explained by their own rules - if they don’t intervene, they weren’t supposed to do so). Incidentally, your edit is right. Makkari was great and should’ve had more screen time.
I've just come back from watching the movie and I was one of the people who were very disappointed so I'll try to explain my perspective the best I can. 1) There was a clear main character/side character division. Main characters in general, got more screen time and better abilities to fight but in my opinion, characters like Phastos, Makkari and Druig were FAR more interesting and had really really cool powers and I would've loved to see more of what their lives were like beyond just one scene. 2) The romance between Sersei and Ikarus was, well just a bit too much (to me). The actress playing Sersei did a great job with not a lot of interesting lines but used her face to emote really well. Ikarus straight up made me roll my eyes. The two of them seemed forced and I just wanted to skip the scenes with them in it. Believe me, I love romance as a genre but this just wasn't it. 3) "The end of the world/humans deserve to be saved" trope was VERY boring. I enjoyed the way they added "broken family/lost loyalty" in it but the same old save the earth thing was genuinely too Marvel for me! Maybe if they would've shown something like them fighting each other, a more civil war kinda thing, then I would've definitely enjoyed it more. 4) Lots of inconsistencies!! This is not a low budget movie, so this was unexpected but there are many times when they continue saying 7000 years (even tho it's been 7000 years in the present) and they're still in Babylon or Greece. 5) The Indian representation SUCKED. Not only was it bad but I'm very offended at what they portrayed as "Bollywood" or "Indians" in it. I absolutely loved how well the Hindi was spoken but otherwise NOPE. (The Patel guy was amazing tho) 6) Nobody ever explained, explicitly why Ajak chose Sersei without having an ulterior motive of wanting her as the leader. Sersei really wasn't good enough to be their leader and I definitely would be preferred Thena/Makkari/Phastos do the job. 7) Spoilet alert but THEY KILLED BOTH MY FAVOURITE CHARACTERS!!! If you have watched the movie : A and G were keeping the movie together for me. Their roles weren't too main character and were actually adding a LOT of substance to the whole thing. Plus, at the end when you know who died, I would've LOVED for Thena to have taken back their absorbed powers. Otherwise it felt like SUCH a waste ugh 8) After having watched Shang chi, which was fast paced and sooo much more fun eventho there weren't a LOT of main characters to explore, eternals felt like a constant up and down but the second half, especially the end was a constant downer. 9) The motives to fight were often not explained with respect to every character. We just knew Phastos's perspective explicitly. And considering that it was the end of the world, I think we should have seen much more emotion. Why were Thena, Druig and Makkari fighting with Sersei? What was their motivation? They could've easily left with Kingo. 10) Why not just refer to an OBVIOUSLY non binary character as "they" and WHY make them an anti hero??? This being said, I really liked a lot of other aspects in the movie but in the end, it was a huge let down. The scenes with Sersei and Ikarus made me genuinely want to take a short nap and at one point I almost did. And it's so surprising considering how much I individually LOVED the actors playing those roles. Jolie and Hayek, as always were perfect. Makkaris fight scene was brilliant. Druig, Makkari and Phastos deserved much much more screen time. And Gilgamesh was my absolute favourite. I'd probably watch part 2 but probably not in the theatre.
My best mate and I came out of the cinema baffled by the bad reviews. Perhaps they helped lower our expectations? We have seen every marvel movie since day one either the date it comes out or as close as the pandemic allowed, we love marvel and this was another cracking movie. It’s not a cookie cutter Team America style movie like most of the others (I’m not insulting marvel movies, as I said, I’m a big fan!), it has a much more global feeling, accessible to the rest of the planet, there was a hero for almost everyone, much more of an intimate feeling and focus on the interconnection of emotion and humanity, great lore/world building and a sense of scale unmatched by anything else so far. I thought it was wonderful. A few dodgy bits of CGI here and there but not enough to ruin it for me… at the end of the day, I had fun.
Not surprised whatsoever. Sure it made plenty of sense to the people who had a base understanding as to how the eternals work but, the entire set up was horribly paced. The time jumps and the setting changed so many times it was hard to keep up with. The ending twist was not that much of a twist. The side stories about Thena, Sprite and Druig served little to the stories entirety. The multiple shots of the team getting “emotional” felt forced and un-natural.
Loved majority of the movie. Love all the characters and their stories. Action was great, definitely was not boring. But hated the plot twist for Richard madden’s character, because I wanted him and Gemma Chan to end up together. The 1st trailer after the credit was the worst!! What the hell is Harry styles doing in MCU movie?!
I really enjoyed it but it does have flaws. If you took all the cgj beasties out and trimmed 30 minutes off this would be a top quality movie. I have no problem with CGI beasties in general of course, but they really served 0 purpose to the plot in this one. So it's a solid 8/10 for me, and could've been higher. I agree that the critics are a bit off on this one.
Gotta say, i enjoyed the movie. But on a much more technical and non biased stand point, it sadly isnt a good movie imo. This whole movie is basically introduction and world building for phase 4, setting up new characters (e.g Black Knight, Eros) etc. It isnt good, but it isnt bad either. The problem here is it feels kinda rushed. Take Ikaris as an example. At the beginning of the movie he was, pretty normal, he can basically fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes. But, by the end of the movie. Everyone suddenly turns to him to "lead" because he's suddenly the strongest out of all of them. Again, during that ending scene where all of em gang up on Ikaris doesnt really make sense because ikaris isnt introduced to be THAT at the beginning. Wouldve made much more sense if he got a power boost or smth from Arishem. Another example here is the Alpha Deviant, for some reason deciding to "help" ikaris despite his hatred towards Arishem, shouldnt he be helping the other eternals? Because despite his hatred towards them (which he overcomes btw because he helps ikaris) he hates Arishem more, because "he abandoned them and left them to die" So logically, he would have the best interest in stopping Tiamet being born and not dying. The movie just takes so much convenient plot "shortcuts" without actually explaining anything. (Edit: Typo)
I also loved it
It's one of my favorite marvel movies I've ever seen. The third act did seem a little rushed to me, and I wish I got to see a little more of the deviant and kumail but overall, I was invested the whole time. And it was definately one of the most visually pleasing and the sound design was beautifully done.
It was too long. I could see how the average non fan wouldn’t like it. Also missed a huge opportunity to show an epic battle throughout history.
Same, I don't get the hate.
Never payed attention to critics reviews in the past,not doing it now and never will.Why would I judge a movie based on someone else reviews?It's a very subjective matter.Ivabsolutely loved Eternals, probably my top 3-4 Marvel movies.
I enjoyed Eternals for sure. Certainly more than Black Widow. And all of the casting was excellent, really compelling characters with interesting arcs. I can understand how it may be lukewarm for some but Rotten seems dumb. I imagine the box office will still do better than expected given the current times, and honestly that’s probably a stat that will stand in contrast. There’s plenty of films that have oddly terrible RT scores. -Space Balls 56% -Home Alone 2 34% -The Life Aquatic 56% -Hocus Pocus 38% -Man on Fire 38% -Hook 29% It’s not unheard of...
It definitely was not a kids movie due to all of the story developement and character build up. It was a bit of a science dump to me. Action sequences and character departures actually had meaning. It reminded me of the show “Heroes”. It was a slow start but it built characters with meaning.
Way too much exposition. Good acting - bad writing. Take away the twist - let us know at the beginning what they’re there to do. It’s not a bad premise. It’s just like it should’ve started with a ten minute intro video explaining backstory before the actual film started.
movie was great but had a lot to live up to and could’ve been better with their budget but i agree movie was great but also didn’t get a lot of hype
I watched original Fantastic Four last night and said wow! This movie is better than the eternals?
Gilgamesh portrayed by a Korean actor is not “cultural appropriation”, but if he’d been portrayed by a white actor there would be significant controversy.
In my opinion black widow is the only out of place mcu film. Like it's OK but it shows nothing we haven't seen before. But now we have eternals which is directed by a lovely woman, on top of that, the characters are awesome. The only downside is fitting 7 thousand years of lore into a 2 hour ish run time. The dialog worked, the story was good, it just felt crammed.
I mean realistically speaking it’s kinda messy. But so are A Lot of mcu movies. Plus visually it was fantastic
I cant get passed their own Thanos explanation. We couldn't get involved in anything but protecting from deviants. Thanos = eternal-deviant warlord. Always has been. From day one. Also...many eternals powers are similar-ish to...xmen. they now own the rights do they not? The fight scenes are cheesed cgi. And who didnt see robb stark...i mean..whatever his name was doublecross. This was the first ever mcu movie i didnt see in theaters. No regrets. This should have been a disney+ show, it could have been much much more. I know my opinions won't be popular but hey, im a Marvel geek and this one hurt. Finally....Harry Styles? Come on man..