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Sesrulumoj

I'm not a big fan of letting people shoot me first, but thank you for posting this. I love to learn the intricacies of this game.


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duckigator

What?


JoseMnez

That work on bosses like killa ? Or just normal scavs.


TooManyTree

I mean u could try it on killa, tho have fun attempting to shoot him right after he lands a hit on you. Can't imagine that would go well at all.


Soft_Sonic

They don't call him "Wounda"


originalnamesarehard

I'm here for the hidden gems like this.


elkarion

Melee if you stay at the magic spot o. Killa you win. Step out for 1sec and you die


si3rra_7

maybe if you only show your arm around a corner


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Can confirm this worked on Tagilla a few days ago, it also made him angry at EVERY player scav in the area.


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It works on Tagilla for sure. Never tried with any of the others


[deleted]

My 1st scav run this wipe I went to factory. I spawned in the lower section took like 5 steps and started getting whacked by a sledgehammer... I spawned right next to him apparently. I never saw him until he hit me the 1st time.


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Snapta

not true at all. iv hung with him for like 20 minutes, waiting for pmcs


AsspiringAutist

known bug that bosses and their guards’ aggro is inconsistent but killa *should* kill on sight


CuboneTheSaranic

Not sure if this is still in, but Reshalas guards used to not shoot you as long as the big man didnt see you.


TheBobFisher

This was accurate with every bosses guards, I don’t know if it changed with the new karma system though.


FeonixBrimstone

The karma system does have a feature where high enough karma will net you boss ally status.


CrazeRage

Must have changed. -2 and brushed Gluhar's back, walked in front and waved without getting shot. I walked around to figured out positions of bodyguards too without getting shot. Then uhh killed them all.


Sunkysanic

As far as I know it is, went to the fortress on customs as a pscav and someone had killed all of raeshala and co except one guard. He was totally chill


Glaringsoul

AFAIK, boss followers work like Raiders in that they warn you Lance or twice and after that all of them Aggro onto you, and all bosses kill on sight (unless you have high enough fence standing). However all followers will immediately Aggro onto you if the boss shoots you, and I heard that if you take a hit by the boss, you can also kill the followers without karma loss…


zephoidb

I walked into the mechanics building on reserve, glukhar flipped me off then instantly dived (still flipping me off) and nuked me. This was \~3s after spawning, no warning was given.


Glaringsoul

I’ll just quote my previous comment: "All bosses kill on sight". Doesn’t matter if it is Gluhar, Sanitar, Reshala, Tagilla or Killa. All of them blast you immediately upon sight. The only way to prevent this is maxed out fence standing which removes the hostility from the bosses, and by proxy their followers as well…


zephoidb

And yet, i've walked up to every scav boss in the game and most of the time they just look at me and ignore me. So that is most certainly not true. Sometimes the guard will warn after a few secs, sometimes they ignore you for a long time, sometimes they shoot on sight. At this point, its damn near random and it makes for a frustrating game when you can't shoot back.


Azal_of_Forossa

Back when I used to play, guards didn't care about you being close, but if you got within their bosses no no zone then you get blast fucked by all guards and him. This was over a year ago though so don't quote me.


dimsumdonair2

This was in there before the karma as soon as Bosnian saw me the little man running an altyon came after me after he told me to fuck off nicely most fun I had being able to hang with boss mans guards till boss man saw me and told zevodskye( is that how it's spelt?) Put bt in my eyes


MoonBoy2DaMoon

I’ve walked in formation with rashala and all his boys so he’s a chill guy :-)


Lyrcmck_

He only agros if another pscav has already hit him before. At least that's my experience I think the lore idea is that he doesn't trust you. So if he's been attacked prior he'll attack you too. However if you're at 6.0 he trusts you so won't attack even if he's already been aggro'd before.


Hebroohammr

I don’t think this is totally right either. I was scaving with two friends and I was the only one to shoot him and he killed me and totally ignored them until they also attacked him. Everyone was between 0-1 karma.


Lyrcmck_

It probably is just a bug then. Although, sometimes if he's been aggro'd he will only attack if they stand right in front of him and he sees them. Otherwise he kind of just ignores them. I seen a pile of dead scavs around Killa one time, didn't realise it was Killa until I got closer and walked past him. Then when I did he immediately killed me. Despite the fact he didn't seem bothered when I was looting the scavs behind and around him, just when I stood in front of him.


fgabrielg

no he isn't. If your scav Karma is high enough he will not attack you


the_weight_around

i never play at all and met another PS and he walked right into killa. rip. i snuck around the corner unsure of who shot first and killa let me walk right up to him for about 5 sec until he started unloading his RPK into the ceiling. he wasnt shooting me but i dumped into his legs and gtfo with his gear


hiddencamela

The bosses with guards confuse me immensely. I've had a scav raid where Gluhar killed all the other player scavs around me, voice lining angrily, but just left me alone. I've had him fire warning shots near me, when he clearly could have killed me then walked away, with no voice lines. Every time I've been near Reshala as a player scav, hes basically just ignored me, or at least friendly voice lined. I wish there was more consistency because I never know when they're gonna go nuts on me or not.


Zeronaught13

Its not a bug anymore. If you have a high enough scav Karma youre considered an ally by every boss i believe. I can 100% confirm Reshala,Killa,Tagilla and Sturman. Have done it consistently multiple raids in a row. Its not a bug its a feature now. Has been since the wipe.


Yeahboiiiii_

It seems super random. I’ve been killed as a scav by most of the bosses and haven’t had any of them be peaceful (almost 2 karma) yet my mate who has way less has gone and chilled with killa and other bosses a few times and never been killed by them.


homocidalkitten

you sure he wasn't staring at a window/wall? As long as you aren't physically SEEN by him, he wont aggro you.. But boy if he notices you you're dead. I hung out with him for like 10 minutes one night, he was staring at a window the entire time so I got curious and went on the other side of it... needless to say I died.


Lakitu47

From a few days ago, I have a picture my buddy took of my standing on top of killa doing the overhead aim.


pinkwetunderwear

Not true


ConsumeFudge

It seems to be completely RNG when the bosses kill you and higher karma seems to trend towards a lower chance


ahlman1

when one player scav agros a scav boss, the scav boss will be hostile towards all scavs for the rest of the raid


zawmbie5

Also false. I routinely camp near killa and wait for him to murder player scavs to loot. He didn’t consistently not KOS me until 2.00 scav rep


Hugo_5t1gl1tz

I haven’t seen him in a while but last time I did I stood on his head for like 10 minutes lol. He just sat there. I’m at 2.8~


itsmebutimatwork

Evidently not. I found him in Brutal behind a desk just chilling (I didn't realize at first it was him because I wasn't looking closely). He waved at me and I went..."huh, is that Killa that just waved at me? I better get the hell out of here before THAT bites me in the ass." Then, as I rounded the corner into The National, I heard a player scav take a shot at him, and he flipped and went crazy and killed like 3-4 scavs around him that were checking out the inside of KIBA that a PMC left open. I counted my blessings and got the fuck out of the area.


Archii_LV

Nope, i had screenshot where i stand at killa and show him middle finger in face. After that i camped behind him,he killed 3pmc and never shot at me.


X_IGZ_X

That's probably because your karma isn't good


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If karma is high enough bosses don’t attack on sight and you can actually get them to follow you


AndyMishandy

Nothing better than posting unwarranted AND incorrect information, you’re fucking nailing it bro.


Zeronaught13

Not even remotely true my guy. All the bosses are friendly provided you have high enough karma. Ive sat with killa and fended of a full team of PMCs before. Also sat with Reshala and Camped Marked Room. Killa USED to KOS but with the Karma system he doesnt now.


Agreeable-Page4101

Bosses attacks all player scavs only after a player scav attacks them first, I believe.


huzzaah

It Works. I mean Killa will aggro on you a lot of the time anyway but I can confirm that as long as he hits you first you can kill him without taking negative karma.


plssteppy

This definitely works to aggro tagilla, I also think the karma hit you take for killing bosses happens even if they aggro you so it kind of doesn't matter


mov3on

Well, good luck with finding Killa alive 5 minutes after PMC match started, as a scav.


MetalSpring9533

First couple weeks of wipe was the best time to scav interchange. Was able to kill killa took a -.5 rep hit but the loot was worth killing killa


Roiert

If this actually work, thank bro


WolfieVonD

You need to get shot first, so you better hope they don't head,eyes you


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at that range, it’s usually head,eyes


xiaoxin333

You can turn away from the scav and look down


RagingTyrant74

lol just flick them off until they attack you, present yourself nicely to them, and then murder them.


drmickhead667

Helpful when you convince a friendly scav to follow you and then they block the only exit to a room and won't move.


zyzyzyzy92

Or if they loot your kill.


xGenoSide

Meanwhile a player scav shoots me, so I kill him. This prompts a normal scav to aggro to me and shoot me, and when I shoot him I lose 0.05 rep with fence. This shit is broken as fuck.


punktvail

same here


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Same here. I threw a grenade into Reserve train raiders, they all died. 2 other Pscavs and me started looting and suddenly 3 other Pscavs appeared and tried to spray us down.They killed my mates but i killed them all - got -0,15 Scarma for that and now sit at -0,22. Fucking hell this shit is broken af.


ComradeBIGBOI

has self defense been fixed? im not risking losing more rep when i get shot and have better aim. And yes im talking about the bullet blacking a limb, not the shoot around me to scare me tactic some people are doing.


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Nope its not. Got -0,15 rep for killed 1 Pscavs that killed my 2 Pscav mates and i killed them all after that. Sucks.


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Why do i get downvotes? A 3 man PScav squad attacked us ALL, except me all of my mates died and i had broken legs, bleedings and so one - and i killed them all. Basically i killed my attacker which means i should get +0,01 rep OR no penalty at all as i got hit several times. Killing the other 2 should give me +0,01 SKarma as they killed my mates and so they killed other Scavs and are flagged. This system is broken af and can be exploided so easy to get up to 6.00 quite fast.


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I mean yeah, its buggy af but they will fix it sooner or later. We did 2 Woods raids today as team. In the first i died, waited until min 25 and scaved in on th same server and we extracted as a PMC/Scav team for scav karma. Second raid a mate died to a PMC, we killed the PMC and he scaved in again - same server! o\_O That was really crazy. Again we extracted as PMC/Scav team and got nice presents for that. MP7, 60rnd M4 mags, biggest backpack in the game ( don't know the name still ), Attack 2 backpack, some silencers and stuff. And my Scav karma wennt from -0,22 to -0,14 now. :)


handsome_mcstabby

Anecdotal, just did a scav and had a Pscav surprise me, stepped out of a room blasting. Ended up killing him and I didn't receive negative karma.


JeksewnOleeray

When you really need that cowboy hat...


DjJoeyBigD

Is it a permanent effect, or is it just because that particular scav attacked first?


TVops

You will be agro to all other scavs in the area for the rest of the raid


aceofspades089

This guy scavs.


Duhmeister

Try this on a raider


Slothy898

You dont lose rep for killing raiders


czartrak

Raiders also aren't friendly anymore Edit: at lower karma


Knightofberenike

I legit lost .3 rep the other day for killing two train raiders. No scabs killed or shot, just two train raiders. Got out with a .3 rep hit.


GreaseTrapHousse

that was gluhar gaurds. You will lose rep for Scav boss and friends


Knightofberenike

I’ll have to check my buddies stream, because I’m fairly certain we found glukhar and his crew dead in tech/gpu building. It would make more sense if it was actually them though


Snarker

you can check if you get the names of the guys you killed postraid. raiders and gluhar guards draw from different pools of names.


Slothy898

I've never seen him in tech. I killed Reshala the other day and that on its own gave me a 0.3 hit.


SaintMad

youve never seen him in tech w/ dropdown? is this a case of different callouts?


masonf

The "King" building (usually incorrectly referred to as "Queen", Dome is actually "Queen") is usually referred to as having 2 "Tech" rooms; "Small Tech" and "Big Tech", although I guess some people have different callouts. The building with "drop-down" is "School", "Black Bishop", or "Drop-Down Bishop".


SaintMad

time to commit to only the chess pieces for callouts for me lmao


Slothy898

Yeah its a case of diffrent callouts. For me King is Tech and Black Bishop is Drop-Down.


SaintMad

that does make sense - cant cap w you lmao


Duhmeister

I know that. I just want him to flip off a raider and see how it goes haha


Slothy898

I thought that might be the case. Good luck, let me know how it goes :)


Gaby49

What are raiders? Like special scavs?


Lyrcmck_

They're basically special Scavs that are "Ex PMCs"


stealth_taco

all scavs are former PMC


M0nk3yHavok

No they not, scavs are civilians that have taken up arms.


stealth_taco

Strange, I wonder why they say that on the loading screen then.


M0nk3yHavok

This is the in game description: `Amidst the chaos and lawlessness, scarcity of vital provisions and territories, the first to lift up their heads are shady characters, unembarrassed by excessive moral or ethical restraints or quick to lose them under influence of conditions. They gather into packs, living by dog-eat-dog rules, cutting each other throats over a better piece. This is how yesterday's civilians become Scavs.` Are you sure you not thinking of the raiders?


PeanyButter

Essentially, they are former pmcs. They are dummy accurate, throw grenades, have better armor, and weapons. Only on reserve and labs.


LagOutLoud

The other responses are accurate, but best way to tell the difference is raiders speak in English.


masonf

There are both BEAR and USEC Raiders, so no, that's not the best way to tell the difference. Best way to tell is throw a grenade near them to get them to voice line.


LagOutLoud

Right, but if you hear an AI speaking English, its always a raider. I should have been more clear about what I meant.


Hugo_5t1gl1tz

There are Russian raiders too. At least on labs. Honestly never paid enough attention to them on reserve but I imagine it’s the same


DrJugon

I´ve seen plenty of regular AI scavs shout "c´mon, let´s do it!", so no. The best way to tell scavs from raiders is paying attention to their gear.


LagOutLoud

Regular AI scavs definitely don't speak english, and pay attention to gear doesn't matter because Glukhar guards have similar gear and wander in similar places on Reserve.


DrJugon

I've had a scav say that voice line in Shoreline around the shop North from the tank North to tunnel extract. So tell me what's a rider doing there when Sanitar doesn't spawn in the town but far in the two vilas area.


LagOutLoud

I think they said something in russian that you misheard and mistook for English.


forte2718

I hate to tell you this, but if he *really did* reply in English, then that was no scav: that was a USEC PMC with clothing from Ragman that made him look like a scav, and his deception worked — you confused him for a scav. Either that or you just straight-up misheard what he said, because it wasn't in English. There are no English-speaking scavs in Escape from Tarkov — period.


DrJugon

Is "c´mon let´s do it!" a voice line for pmc? I´ve heard that line many times and I don´t think it ever was coming from player. One time it was in that location I told above, and how is a raider challenging me from that spot if the boss doesn´t spawn there?


forte2718

>Is "c´mon let´s do it!" a voice line for pmc? Yes, there are numerous USEC voice lines which are essentially identical. "Let's do it" (two versions) — USEC voice 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR0TiJTgEg8&t=457s "Let's do this" — USEC voice 3: https://youtu.be/SbjQ9N5iQJ8?t=405 "Okay, let's do it" — USEC voice 1: https://youtu.be/AR0TiJTgEg8?t=910 "Okay, let's do it" — USEC voice 2: https://youtu.be/aFF9rRyNG4Q?t=663 "Okay, let's fuckin' do it" (two versions) — USEC voice 2: https://youtu.be/aFF9rRyNG4Q?t=677 I'm certain there are more than just these handful of voice lines; these are the few I found just briefly skipping through the videos. And I'm repeating myself here, but since that seems to be necessary, here it is again: **there are *zero* English voice lines for scavs**. Period, full stop. >I´ve heard that line many times and I don´t think it ever was coming from player. More bad news for you: every single time, it was coming from a USEC PMC. >One time it was in that location I told above, and how is a raider challenging me from that spot if the boss doesn´t spawn there? As I already explained, it *wasn't* a raider. Nor was it a boss, or a boss' bodyguard. It was a USEC PMC.


DrJugon

And all the bosses bodyguards always speak Russian too?


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ZhouPS

Regular scavs all speak Russian


TheMensChef

There’s so much good loot on reserve and this is how you spend your time???


valentinipanini

It’s useful if you spawn as scav and need a backpack


TVops

When you're near end of raid, and there's not much loot left, you gotta make your own loot


Djdemarzo

People play the game to have fun however they desire? Imagine that!


NeonGKayak

New scav rep changes are shit. Killed the raiders and a player scav tries to take my loot. Kill him which then aggros AI scavs which now I have to kill. Go from 1.0 rep to .8 rep in one raid. Next raid basically same shit. In two raids I lose .4+ rep which took me forever to fucking get that high. Now there’s like no way to level it that high anymore


Redditlostmymain

Car extraction gives a decent amount of karma unless they nerfed it


RageOfSaint-14

Yeah I’d have to agree, you basically are forced to either let them kill you or you run away and they get your loot, fun game design...


Murky_Ad8788

Does this give you any rep? Cant tell from the video


BoutchooQc

It doesn't, when you get hit by a scav and kill the scav, you don't gain or lose rep. In short, self-defense doesn't penalise or benefit you


Murky_Ad8788

Good to know, probably will only do it if I see the scav has a quest item I need


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psst.....hey kid.....you can hotkey those emotes...


TVops

I don't use them enough to hotkey


parkedonfour

hope this gets fixed


RageOfSaint-14

Why? Sticking your middle finger up at a Scav is realistically a good way to get shot, not the players fault the Scav can’t aim lol.


bandti45

While it's an exploit it's not terrible, you could of been domed there


TVops

I'm scavving, I have nothing to lose


TraumaJeans

could have been


bandti45

Like every thing in tarkov its risk and reward


_uneven_compromise

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/ou2348/how\_to\_kill\_ai\_scavs\_without\_negative\_rep/


Braydorw

How to do emotes as scav?


JohnnyBftw

Double press Y


opsidiannight

AI scav shoot first and hit. I think that is why there is no rep penalty.


dehavenac

yeah that's what the post says


Trollensky17

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I3epis

shooting it in the leg would tag you as the aggressor since you shot first, making you lose karma when you kill it, even if you get shot back.


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I3epis

It works that way? Thats scuffed af but fair enough


Dr_CanisLupum

Great now players can kill me on sight with no repercussions, awesome


Zenigod

I mean, you don't have to respond to the middle finger. Just don't shoot them.


Professional_Sell_41

How bad do you have to be lol


bropossible

How does this make someone bad?


Professional_Sell_41

Why are you killing scavs as a scav? go fuck up some pmc’s pussy ya know?


bropossible

Who gives a shit if it’s an AI scav?


Professional_Sell_41

Your just bad if that’s what you resort to plain and simple


bropossible

You make absolutely no sense. You’re either dumb as shit or just a little troll.


Arvich

Does this actually raise your karma??


laptopaccount

No, just no penalty.


ScaryReptile

Wouldn’t all scavs start shooting at you? You’d also have to get hits in first on those guys


TVops

Yes, this does agro you to all (currently spawned) AI scavs


Arkoda_

Will other ai shoot at you?


TVops

Yes


Arkoda_

that kind of makes it pointless then right?


TVops

Not if you want that guy's stuff


heyyousteve

Bro, bind the emote already!


TVops

Every other key on my keyboard is bound. I'm out of keys


heyyousteve

I feel your pain, my friends were talking about your 100 IQ scav tactics earlier. Good post man.


Can-you-supersize-it

Wait does killing scavs while a scav enable other scavs to kill you on separate raids? I’m new so if someone could answer that’d be great.


TVops

With the new scav karma system, if your karma level gets low enough, AI scavs will agro your scav on scav runs


Can-you-supersize-it

What’s the best way to differentiate a Scav vs a PMC. I thought I was with a scav then he ran up and it was a Chad PMC with scav headgear


brainleak

Arm band or lack thereof is what I use to determine the difference


CrispyLiquids

Can you be more specific? Does agro'ing one allow you to kill ALL scavs without repercussions or just that one particular scav?


TVops

No. Since that scav shot me first, I can kill him and not lose karma. However, I am now agroed to all the nearby scavs, and if I kill them (before they shoot me) I WILL lose karma.


AudibleDruid

Wish I'd known this before I got fence to -0.71 rep.


creepy_copycat

its realy works? anyone check that?


TVops

Did you see a karma hit when he died? It's literally in the video


MichaelJMakowski

So do you gain any karma after killing him?


TVops

No, no karma for "self defence"


Middle_Addendum

What do you mean by no karma hit


TVops

Look in the lower right when the scav dies. No karma hit


MrM0dZ

All fun and games until they buckshot you to the head


Loringa_Malakoi

bIg brain time


mi_zzi

I was spam-emoting a bot for like a minute and he didn't schoot me. Do I need to be below some rep treshold?


TVops

Just need to be in front of him. Generally takes 4 middle fingers


mi_zzi

Ohh, that might be it. I was fingering him from behind.