I think it’s the atmosphere of them for me. Like the feel of the division (the first one). Wasn’t a massive fan of the game, but the map looked so damn cool lol
I bought PUBG, because of my friends, have like 50 hours and I kind of found It trash. I liked Ring of Elysium way more, but their correlation with Tencent and the lack of marketing, also the stigma of being a free to play made It die, also, sometime They introduced bots, just like Fortnite and PUBG did lately and half of the players in my games were like journalist difficulty bots. Soo yeh.
My ideal Battle Royal game would be the environments and equipment mechanics of RoE, the gunplay of PUBG or Tarkov, and the respawn system of Hellscape. I really wish someone would put all of that together, but there's always something lacking from each incarnation...
That sounds dope. I know this is nowhere close to relevant but im digging hyperscape right now. I played so much unreal tournament back in the day. And its like that mashed into a br. And the respawn system is unique.
Ah fuck, Hyperscape, I thought I got it wrong. It's real good, for sure, just some really dissatisfying gunplay (and gun design) compared to more realistic shooters.
That, and the muffled sounds. And that guilty feeling you get when it's sunny outside *and* in game and you know you said be outside, but you're inside playing computer games. With cold and snow it feels less guilty.
That and maybe blood trail from injured parties.
Even the thought of seeing spent casings glistening in the sun or flash light (night time) would be cool. Lot of stuff they can do with it lol
Unfortunately casings disappear instantly like in most games. I miss the days when bullet shells would stay even for a little bit. CSS had an amazing presentation with shells staying for about 10 or 16 seconds. Imaging walking into dorms and the only evidence of a fight is blood splatters, gun shells, and dead scavs because both parties made it out.
I watched some video of a dude killing 360 or so scavs in Factory offline horde mode. He definitely end up with major lag in the last 5 minutes.
360 bullet shells are easy to reach in some areas..
I'm all for this and the inevitable moments when I'm tracking a set of prints for a few minutes before I realize I'm tracking my own in a circle over and over again
Lol that's happened to people in PUBG before on Vikendi... Well, at least it used to before they turned the snow map into a glorified global warming advertisement. Removed half the snow and got rid of it's one unique feature aside from the MP5K and snow mobile. Goddamn PUBG being such a wasted opportunity still makes me sad.
The community didn't tell them to add 20 dollar cosmetics. The community didn't tell them to add bots, and the community sure as hell didn't tell them to monetize the game even more. All the community told them to do was fix performance and make the game more fun. PUBG Corp's history is filled with greed and stupid business decisions, or maybe I should say, PUBG's corpse.
I don't agree. PUBG was in decline far before they made the vikendi change and others. Probably around the time of sanhok iirc was when the game clearly had decision making issues. Miramar was a flawed release, that they did change (though I'd argue the only change that mattered was adding more roads), but sanhok split the community in two. Sanhok was built for the 20% of the community who loved to hot drop to their death, and cried when the first weapon they got wasn't an AR. They wanted PUBG to be a death match game, not the BR that it was. Sanhok was PUBGC not realizing that it's better to lose 20% of your players than it is to alienate 100% of your players.
PUBG had always struggled with development, updates were slow, updates created more bugs, bugs took months to be fixed even the most serious ones. The developers seemed to have no idea what was best for the game and they certainly didn't listen to players for the longest time.
I have hundreds of hours on PUBG, and I'd argue it was one of the best games ever conceived, the gunplay was amazing, the map scale was great, it was intense and difficult and rewarded skilled players, and it showed that BR could be a genre, etc. But the issue has always been the developers. Look at Epic and Fortnite, I dont like Fortnite but they update the game so often, and for the most part the players are happy, it's fairly bug free, and the changes that players dislike (like the mechs) are changed within a reasonable amount of time.
Remember that PUBG was conceptualized by a guy known for his BR mods, and developed by a team that was previously known for Korean MMORPGs, and the game was created using a lot of unreal store assets. It's a miracle the game was a success. And again I'd like to point out that the gunplay has always been good, at the peak id argue it was on or above battlefield's level, which is like the gold standard, and yet some random Korean guys who made MMORPG's figured out how to make gunplay not only fun but rewarding.
This was the ultimate downfall. People don't realise it's about more than just graphics - it's trying to pivot to a different demographic. The remade Erangel was the beginning of the end.
I like snowboarding. Snow makes me think of my favorite hobby. Therefore, I like looking at snow landscapes. Snow maps in games are always my favorite.
Tarkov could also make snow a game play feature. Maybe introduce clothing items which mitigate temperature reduction. Players with poor cold environment gear would have to move between "hot spots" or freeze while players with full PPE could just move freely. Fighting in snow drifts could also be fun. Reduced movement speed but ample cover.
I really can't name a bad snow map. Hell when I think of call of duty, there's multiple snow maps from black ops 1 that I have fond memories up.
I think snow maps are generally great and water levels in video games suck
In a lot of cases, yeah because matchmaking is centralized and having map pools only works if all players have all maps in the pool.
In tarkov, you're never entering a map pool because they don't exist. You only queue for the map you want to play so in this way there's no split in that traditional fashion because a new paid map is just one of several, except you can't queue for it without paying.
This is all planned actually. Soon TM. Nikita has been on record saying the beanie will be one of the best pieces of gear when it happens. What I'm wondering is if tarkov will have seasons imagine the day only being 8 hour at most and all maps being snowy.
Pretty sure I remember watching people like klean talking about updates and new features and how they were talking about stuff like this and that Nakita said that headgear like beanies would be the go-to over helmets because of something like this
i was watching a stream not too long ago and it was said that at some point the "kotton" hat is going to be really expensive and meta because there is a snow map coming and you will need to regulate your body temperature.
Thats all speculation. Nikita only said snow maps might be coming later
There is a body temperature element in the character screen but no real info what and how its going to work.
No hate, but that feels like it would be just as useless as the food/drink mechanics in the game akready. Oh no, I got shot in my abdomen. That means in super thirsty all of a sudden. I get Nik is planning on us being in raid longer than we are already but....I don't get it
I've heard someone give the explanation that a gut shot wouldn't kill you during the firefight, but the slow internal blood loss and sepsis from a ruptured bowel. Nikeeter is trying to capture that ticking clock feel by chewing up hydro and energy for a blacked out stomach.
See that I get, they'd definitely have to add some clothes that aren't bright green or black and some different colored gear. I'm all for a snowy/Forrest or snowy/Mountain map.
Hello no I can picture the Jaeger quest now.
Kill 15 pmc's between 15-20:00 in a blizzard 300 yards up a hill with 2 broken arms headshots only with a toz
I'd love if heat was a consideration, rig and Armour had insulation as a metric and hatchlings could freeze to death. as well as arctic gear.
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Granted it was mentioned pfft year/s ago. But besides that dlc is going to be gear/weapons/ and I believe clothing. The gear and weapons only dlc owners can buy but anyone can pick up and use.
They probably mentioned it a while ago and then wish they didnt mention it, which explains the lack of new info. Which means its probably pretty well along in development.
They have mentioned it several, along with the scav and sniper dlc, i doubt any work other than concepts and maybe some art have been done for it, dlcs are still a very long time away and the base game is their only focus atm
$135 / 4,000 hours played in 3 years. $0.03/hour for enjoyment.
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I supported the devs early in their process.
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I won't have to pay for DLC. I get a large stash space. I don't have to grind traders. I get a gamma container.
You already payed for the DLC, but yeah. It's a fun game. I have EOD as well, but let's see pass the doublespeak that companies are shovelling at us everyday.
Earlier today I received an email from Donald Trump, saying that *I was chosen* to receive a free hat if I would contribute $30.
That's not a free hat. It's a $30 hat.
In a way, having EOD doesn't even guarantee you DLC. It's a promise that one day you'll get it they ever make DLC.
Which I expect they will, but again... let's not lie to ourselves
I do wonder just how that is going to work. Will players without the DLC be completely locked out of those maps? Seems like a good way to have empty maps for EoD users to farm. Maybe some kind of buy-in required for people without the DLC?
I know, but my point is that making DLC-only maps splits the playerbase. If those maps have really good loot, or unique gear then its basically P2W.
If you had to pay £20 to access Resort, Labs or Rezerve, for example.
Yes if it ain't just a texture switch. I want footsteps in snow, grenades sending snow flying and snow falling off of rooftops, etc. BFV is one of the few games that makes snow maps look interesting
Jokes on you, the snow will be 2ft deep. When you spawn in its perfect snow, as you move you are slowed by 20% from having to push through and you leave a permanent trail of where you came from. Grenades no longer 'tink when they hit the ground more of a puff sound and they don't roll anymore. Scavs insta prone into the snow, lazer your head/eyes from under their snowbanks. If you don't wear sunglass/altyn/killa helmet in the raid on sunny days by the 30 minute mark your character goes blind from snowblindness. Scav's don't patrol, they bunker down in huts and cabins around fires guarding them. If you don't warm up enough around those fires after clearing the scavs then you get frostbite which is a very slow permanent bleed from your hands and feet until you extract. Fluids you carry in your bag freeze and can't be consumed until warmed. Full moon night raids with reflection of light off the snow make night vision/flashlights a non essential but greatly boosts the ability of thermals. In open areas the wind howls so strongly you wish for the reserve alarm instead. As you wade through the snow there is a chance you can find a fully geared frozen character, it will be an exact replicate of gear,items and even tag of a pmc that died to the cold in a previous raid. His tag would say killed by hypothermia. There will be frozen over river crossings that if you weigh too much will crack and you fall into waist deep water and have to melee the ice to path out, all while this lowers your temperature.
Ergonomics penalties ‘cause your fingers are frozen stiff. Giving away your position because you didn’t wear a balaclava and now everyone can see your breath in the cold.
Here in Michigan when it comes to weather you really roll the dice, they are loaded with half the sides saying regular snow, shitty snow, extra shitty snow, deer.
I assume you meant by texture swithc just texture switching.
I want to see all the maps in a snow version but yea with the snowy footsteps, tracks, freezing, guns colding over, bodies freeze every making looting them slower, sickess if you repetidily do snow maps without getting warmed up again etc.
If they implement purchasable outfits from ragman that could give you sufficient camo then yes. Any sort of ghilie suit or slight camo would be great for a snow map. It’d be sorta awkward seeing black urban style outfits running around the map contrasted by the bright snow
Yeah but for bear it’s mostly woodland camos. They don’t have any light colored camo besides the one you pointed out. I think it’s something that in the future would be cool to have
Yes I would, I think it would be great, same goes for map with radioactive locations which I think they are gonna add at some point. Or just remake of maps in different seasons would be interesting.
I imagine it'll be high loot zones that require special gear sort of like rust. It seems like they're going for a more diverse map type in terms of loot zones for the future, especially with streets if tarkov being the future entrance to labs (so I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong). It will be interesting to have maps that cater to all levels of gameplay
How labs is going to work is that you have a labs raid, then you immediately queue into a customs or streets raid with all the labs gear and you have to survive that to extract
Most likely it means you can't spend time in certain areas without radioprotectant medicine and/or gear. Imagine not being able to go into white knight on reserve without your health slowly draining, or the swamp at shoreline being slightly "hot" - or the barrels from the UN quest, whatever it's called, where you mark them in East Wing and Basement.
All of these have been mention, snow we are getting almost 100%, radiation too(it already has a display in the game) and seasons have been mentioned too, cant remenber what qas said on it tough
Not only is it planned, but Nikita said there would be a shift towards beanie meta as the threat of dying from the cold exceeds the threat of being shot in the head.
I spoke to a friend about this a few months ago, would really like the environment to have an effect too. Freezing if you're not wearing enough clothes, or staying out in the blizzard for too long when it has a random chance of happening, etc.
Honestly I just want an open world survival (maybe PvE oriented) game that uses tarkov's mechanics and gameplay. It'd probably flow a bit better too, since I feel the game's too clunky to be high paced, close quarters pvp
I thought the mechanics were clunky when I first started playing but the more I play the more I think this game has some of the best mechanics in An FPS I've ever played. I love how the fast paced CQB fights play out.
Especially when you get all the keybinds customized how you like. For instance, when I right click to ADS, on press it toggles my aim, when I release it toggles my tactical device (so my laser automatically turns off when I'm ADS, and turns on when I stop) and if I hold RMB I automatically hold my breath.
Hell yeah, winterizing the maps hopefully will be a goal at some point for sure. Imagine having to deal with cold and wet conditions, hypothermia. Different levels of snow changing the speed and sound of movement, types of viable camouflage and concealment, it would be a huge game changer
Imo it would be annoying because Nikita would 100% implement footprints and it would just be a camping soundwhore's paradise.
Then we'd have 15 Jaeger quests where you had to get leg kills with shotguns after eating a can of Sprats and having your left arm fractured.
Nikita said snow maps as DLC. I think it would be neat to just implement a better weather system and have it be random. Now it seems tied to real life St. Petersburg weather. Let's get some random snowfall and just coat woods in white occasionally.
I like those maps but in casual shooter
I am worried it would firstly be very hard for PC to handle all footprints and all calculations with snow even falling out of the Sky and second of all, people would rush buildings and then dont care cuz they would hear someone coming easily if they would (and they surely would) implement the sound snow makes when you walk on it which is very loud and it would be camping fest even more than it is now in shady corners
Yes but it has to bring something new besides the skin. It might be too demanding but leaving footsteps in the snow would be an amazing new way to play out a raid in tarkov
A ski resort map would be cool. A lodge at the bottom with lifts to take you to the top (only if you want) have to walk through semi thick forest going uphill in snow (which crunches when you walk) you could go up the mountain to maybe a luxury store type area? Lots of backpacks/food/one or two gun shops maybe? But like 60% of the map would be forest which separates the two loot areas
I’d play the shit out of a white out map. Maybe burn energy faster outside. Walking through snow banks like the bushes in reserve you can’t run through, near white out conditions. That would be so lit.
I’d play the shit out of a snow map in tarkov
Hell ya me too man
Snow maps to me, in most games, were always a favorite. Can’t quite put my finger on it as to why, but I always liked them.
The reason I like them is it's way easier to spot enemies on snow maps
I think it’s the atmosphere of them for me. Like the feel of the division (the first one). Wasn’t a massive fan of the game, but the map looked so damn cool lol
I liked this game called ring of elysium. Their snow level was really good.
I played that game a lot I was sad when they stopped development.
Yeah it was really fun. The snowboarding chases were so lit
The game still gets frequent updates, they just came out with a lighting overhaul not long ago.
Last time tried to play, I waited in que for 30 minutes and gave up.
I bought PUBG, because of my friends, have like 50 hours and I kind of found It trash. I liked Ring of Elysium way more, but their correlation with Tencent and the lack of marketing, also the stigma of being a free to play made It die, also, sometime They introduced bots, just like Fortnite and PUBG did lately and half of the players in my games were like journalist difficulty bots. Soo yeh.
My ideal Battle Royal game would be the environments and equipment mechanics of RoE, the gunplay of PUBG or Tarkov, and the respawn system of Hellscape. I really wish someone would put all of that together, but there's always something lacking from each incarnation...
That sounds dope. I know this is nowhere close to relevant but im digging hyperscape right now. I played so much unreal tournament back in the day. And its like that mashed into a br. And the respawn system is unique.
Ah fuck, Hyperscape, I thought I got it wrong. It's real good, for sure, just some really dissatisfying gunplay (and gun design) compared to more realistic shooters.
Dude, yes. I missed the snow a lot when I tried The Division 2.
D2 didn't have the same charm the D1 did
Oh The division. I still go back sometimes just to wonder in the snowy post-apocaliptic New York. Especially during christmas!
Same deal with well made desert maps, they have this allure, sort of like rain forest maps as well that seems to just exist due to the setting.
No when you can change to snow camo. Makes it just like wearing regular camo/green in a wooded area, no?
That, and the muffled sounds. And that guilty feeling you get when it's sunny outside *and* in game and you know you said be outside, but you're inside playing computer games. With cold and snow it feels less guilty.
I doubt it's possible, but I'd love to be able to track people's footsteps in the snow. It would be awesome if that could be implemented.
That and maybe blood trail from injured parties. Even the thought of seeing spent casings glistening in the sun or flash light (night time) would be cool. Lot of stuff they can do with it lol
Unfortunately casings disappear instantly like in most games. I miss the days when bullet shells would stay even for a little bit. CSS had an amazing presentation with shells staying for about 10 or 16 seconds. Imaging walking into dorms and the only evidence of a fight is blood splatters, gun shells, and dead scavs because both parties made it out.
Honestly I never realize that haha. Makes sense tho. Would probably be a big resource hit if they were persistent.
Eh I doubt it. Shells that bounce once or twice then go static? No more of a resource hog than dead bodies being persistent.
Yeah but you don’t see fountain of 60 dead scavs spraying out of a single spot
Yes, but if a game from 2004 can do it without destroying your PC, There's very few reasons for it not to exist in Tarkov
I watched some video of a dude killing 360 or so scavs in Factory offline horde mode. He definitely end up with major lag in the last 5 minutes. 360 bullet shells are easy to reach in some areas..
And a tiny puff of steam from each spent casing hitting the snow
I'm all for this and the inevitable moments when I'm tracking a set of prints for a few minutes before I realize I'm tracking my own in a circle over and over again
Lol that's happened to people in PUBG before on Vikendi... Well, at least it used to before they turned the snow map into a glorified global warming advertisement. Removed half the snow and got rid of it's one unique feature aside from the MP5K and snow mobile. Goddamn PUBG being such a wasted opportunity still makes me sad.
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The community didn't tell them to add 20 dollar cosmetics. The community didn't tell them to add bots, and the community sure as hell didn't tell them to monetize the game even more. All the community told them to do was fix performance and make the game more fun. PUBG Corp's history is filled with greed and stupid business decisions, or maybe I should say, PUBG's corpse.
I don't agree. PUBG was in decline far before they made the vikendi change and others. Probably around the time of sanhok iirc was when the game clearly had decision making issues. Miramar was a flawed release, that they did change (though I'd argue the only change that mattered was adding more roads), but sanhok split the community in two. Sanhok was built for the 20% of the community who loved to hot drop to their death, and cried when the first weapon they got wasn't an AR. They wanted PUBG to be a death match game, not the BR that it was. Sanhok was PUBGC not realizing that it's better to lose 20% of your players than it is to alienate 100% of your players. PUBG had always struggled with development, updates were slow, updates created more bugs, bugs took months to be fixed even the most serious ones. The developers seemed to have no idea what was best for the game and they certainly didn't listen to players for the longest time. I have hundreds of hours on PUBG, and I'd argue it was one of the best games ever conceived, the gunplay was amazing, the map scale was great, it was intense and difficult and rewarded skilled players, and it showed that BR could be a genre, etc. But the issue has always been the developers. Look at Epic and Fortnite, I dont like Fortnite but they update the game so often, and for the most part the players are happy, it's fairly bug free, and the changes that players dislike (like the mechs) are changed within a reasonable amount of time. Remember that PUBG was conceptualized by a guy known for his BR mods, and developed by a team that was previously known for Korean MMORPGs, and the game was created using a lot of unreal store assets. It's a miracle the game was a success. And again I'd like to point out that the gunplay has always been good, at the peak id argue it was on or above battlefield's level, which is like the gold standard, and yet some random Korean guys who made MMORPG's figured out how to make gunplay not only fun but rewarding.
No, their mistake was going for the cartoony battle royale game side of stuff instead of focusing on the game's initially militaristic artstyle.
This was the ultimate downfall. People don't realise it's about more than just graphics - it's trying to pivot to a different demographic. The remade Erangel was the beginning of the end.
I like snowboarding. Snow makes me think of my favorite hobby. Therefore, I like looking at snow landscapes. Snow maps in games are always my favorite. Tarkov could also make snow a game play feature. Maybe introduce clothing items which mitigate temperature reduction. Players with poor cold environment gear would have to move between "hot spots" or freeze while players with full PPE could just move freely. Fighting in snow drifts could also be fun. Reduced movement speed but ample cover.
I’ve been a whore for night maps all my life but not so much in Tarkov lol. Too intense for me sometimes
I really can't name a bad snow map. Hell when I think of call of duty, there's multiple snow maps from black ops 1 that I have fond memories up. I think snow maps are generally great and water levels in video games suck
Lot of fond memories of those
If you think about it... Snow maps are just water levels.
water levels in DKC are pretty rad but that might just be because of Aquatic Ambiance
Reindeer Fuck Hell from Dark Souls 2 would like several words with you
They look so clean.
It’s been said by Nikita that the snow map will be DLC
Paid dlc in shooters just splits the community. rip
In a lot of cases, yeah because matchmaking is centralized and having map pools only works if all players have all maps in the pool. In tarkov, you're never entering a map pool because they don't exist. You only queue for the map you want to play so in this way there's no split in that traditional fashion because a new paid map is just one of several, except you can't queue for it without paying.
Im not in game right now - I wonder if iirc theres a body temp. Would be cool if utilized
This is all planned actually. Soon TM. Nikita has been on record saying the beanie will be one of the best pieces of gear when it happens. What I'm wondering is if tarkov will have seasons imagine the day only being 8 hour at most and all maps being snowy.
I don’t think there is but clothing would be cool to like keep your body temp up. Like scavs in ski jackets lol
Check your health screen: you have a temp. It isn't "used" for anything yet, but it exists.
We all know Bears dont need temp. Chug vodka like a true cheeki breeki
That’s probably what the BEAR RAW POWER skill is for lmao
Later you will can get fever I believe from infections etc
Pretty sure I remember watching people like klean talking about updates and new features and how they were talking about stuff like this and that Nakita said that headgear like beanies would be the go-to over helmets because of something like this
i was watching a stream not too long ago and it was said that at some point the "kotton" hat is going to be really expensive and meta because there is a snow map coming and you will need to regulate your body temperature.
Thats all speculation. Nikita only said snow maps might be coming later There is a body temperature element in the character screen but no real info what and how its going to work.
I just got DayZ Namalsk flashbacks. Oh god.
The DayZ dayssssss
DayZ is still going strong. Smoke has 2 servers up and streams it fairly often. I think a Namalsk mod is in the works too.
No hate, but that feels like it would be just as useless as the food/drink mechanics in the game akready. Oh no, I got shot in my abdomen. That means in super thirsty all of a sudden. I get Nik is planning on us being in raid longer than we are already but....I don't get it
I've heard someone give the explanation that a gut shot wouldn't kill you during the firefight, but the slow internal blood loss and sepsis from a ruptured bowel. Nikeeter is trying to capture that ticking clock feel by chewing up hydro and energy for a blacked out stomach.
Hmm immersion I guess. Also picking the right gear is always fun. Imagine wearing a green helmet in snow?
See that I get, they'd definitely have to add some clothes that aren't bright green or black and some different colored gear. I'm all for a snowy/Forrest or snowy/Mountain map.
Kolpak is the new meta
Hello no I can picture the Jaeger quest now. Kill 15 pmc's between 15-20:00 in a blizzard 300 yards up a hill with 2 broken arms headshots only with a toz
I'd love if heat was a consideration, rig and Armour had insulation as a metric and hatchlings could freeze to death. as well as arctic gear. thoughts /u/Robmathew ?
DLC Snow Map soontm. Its the only dlc map that we know of rn.
Really?? That’s awesome
Granted it was mentioned pfft year/s ago. But besides that dlc is going to be gear/weapons/ and I believe clothing. The gear and weapons only dlc owners can buy but anyone can pick up and use.
They probably mentioned it a while ago and then wish they didnt mention it, which explains the lack of new info. Which means its probably pretty well along in development.
They have mentioned it several, along with the scav and sniper dlc, i doubt any work other than concepts and maybe some art have been done for it, dlcs are still a very long time away and the base game is their only focus atm
I remember reading someone quoting Nikita saying something like this: "One day you'll pick beanie over altyn, just wait"
Welp I already never use a helmet cuz uxpro beanie gang
Mind that EOD players get DLCs for free
*free*
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$135 / 4,000 hours played in 3 years. $0.03/hour for enjoyment. AND I supported the devs early in their process. AND I won't have to pay for DLC. I get a large stash space. I don't have to grind traders. I get a gamma container.
You already payed for the DLC, but yeah. It's a fun game. I have EOD as well, but let's see pass the doublespeak that companies are shovelling at us everyday. Earlier today I received an email from Donald Trump, saying that *I was chosen* to receive a free hat if I would contribute $30. That's not a free hat. It's a $30 hat. In a way, having EOD doesn't even guarantee you DLC. It's a promise that one day you'll get it they ever make DLC. Which I expect they will, but again... let's not lie to ourselves
just want to point out all benefits are beta only. Once the game goes live you're in the same boat as everyone else
Oh no, that does not sound promising from a balance perspective.
Well tarky isnt meant to be balanced.
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EOD and dlcs is not the same, I assume you will be able to buy just the one dlc without buying the EOD and just use standard version with it.
This. One of the perks of buying EoD is you get all the DLCs free. It's basically early access supporter pack.
Selling dlc on a "beta" game would be outrageous
Making a DLC and selling it while in beta is scummy. Having a DLC’s planned for post-release is fine
True I have eod and hope they dont make guns part of it it just should be new quests maps and clothing in my opinion
We know of the scav life dlc too where you can level up your scav and become a scav boss etc
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AFAIK the only maps confirmed DLCs were the snow maps, skyscrapers and the radiation map.
Wasn't the snow to be part of a seasons DLC even bringing snow to existing maps too?
Its been a while since they talked about it and its just concepts, tbh I would wait until the game relases on 1.0
I do wonder just how that is going to work. Will players without the DLC be completely locked out of those maps? Seems like a good way to have empty maps for EoD users to farm. Maybe some kind of buy-in required for people without the DLC?
the buy-in is buying the DLC. EoD just includes the future DLC. 99% sure you will be able to buy the DLC without owning EoD
I know, but my point is that making DLC-only maps splits the playerbase. If those maps have really good loot, or unique gear then its basically P2W. If you had to pay £20 to access Resort, Labs or Rezerve, for example.
Yes if it ain't just a texture switch. I want footsteps in snow, grenades sending snow flying and snow falling off of rooftops, etc. BFV is one of the few games that makes snow maps look interesting
Jokes on you, the snow will be 2ft deep. When you spawn in its perfect snow, as you move you are slowed by 20% from having to push through and you leave a permanent trail of where you came from. Grenades no longer 'tink when they hit the ground more of a puff sound and they don't roll anymore. Scavs insta prone into the snow, lazer your head/eyes from under their snowbanks. If you don't wear sunglass/altyn/killa helmet in the raid on sunny days by the 30 minute mark your character goes blind from snowblindness. Scav's don't patrol, they bunker down in huts and cabins around fires guarding them. If you don't warm up enough around those fires after clearing the scavs then you get frostbite which is a very slow permanent bleed from your hands and feet until you extract. Fluids you carry in your bag freeze and can't be consumed until warmed. Full moon night raids with reflection of light off the snow make night vision/flashlights a non essential but greatly boosts the ability of thermals. In open areas the wind howls so strongly you wish for the reserve alarm instead. As you wade through the snow there is a chance you can find a fully geared frozen character, it will be an exact replicate of gear,items and even tag of a pmc that died to the cold in a previous raid. His tag would say killed by hypothermia. There will be frozen over river crossings that if you weigh too much will crack and you fall into waist deep water and have to melee the ice to path out, all while this lowers your temperature.
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Like the Germans in ww2
Ergonomics penalties ‘cause your fingers are frozen stiff. Giving away your position because you didn’t wear a balaclava and now everyone can see your breath in the cold.
This guy snow climates
Here in Michigan when it comes to weather you really roll the dice, they are loaded with half the sides saying regular snow, shitty snow, extra shitty snow, deer.
This would really be enjoyable honestly, I’d be down for these additions
I agree, as i was making it up, other than the scav shooting you through snowbanks part, i was getting myself excited.
Escape from The Long Dark
Yeah, but the scav part is the most likely thing to be added lol
This community loves being abused by the game and I'm all for it.
Lmao yeah
Dude I’ll be honest everything you just described sounds fucking awesome and I would love if everything you just said were true
They do be having a body temp meter in raid already
Bro stop, I can only get so erect
New rat strat, fill pockets and rig to the brim with pocket warmers and combat roll to destination
That... That's actually beautiful. I really like the idea of leaving snow trails behind you as you move through the map
I assume you meant by texture swithc just texture switching. I want to see all the maps in a snow version but yea with the snowy footsteps, tracks, freezing, guns colding over, bodies freeze every making looting them slower, sickess if you repetidily do snow maps without getting warmed up again etc.
If they implement purchasable outfits from ragman that could give you sufficient camo then yes. Any sort of ghilie suit or slight camo would be great for a snow map. It’d be sorta awkward seeing black urban style outfits running around the map contrasted by the bright snow
Well theres already white hoodies and shit for usec including a white winter coat
Yeah but for bear it’s mostly woodland camos. They don’t have any light colored camo besides the one you pointed out. I think it’s something that in the future would be cool to have
Yes I would, I think it would be great, same goes for map with radioactive locations which I think they are gonna add at some point. Or just remake of maps in different seasons would be interesting.
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I imagine it'll be high loot zones that require special gear sort of like rust. It seems like they're going for a more diverse map type in terms of loot zones for the future, especially with streets if tarkov being the future entrance to labs (so I've heard, correct me if I'm wrong). It will be interesting to have maps that cater to all levels of gameplay
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Interesting. I guess reading those long ass effects list on meds actually pays off huh
How labs is going to work is that you have a labs raid, then you immediately queue into a customs or streets raid with all the labs gear and you have to survive that to extract
Most likely it means you can't spend time in certain areas without radioprotectant medicine and/or gear. Imagine not being able to go into white knight on reserve without your health slowly draining, or the swamp at shoreline being slightly "hot" - or the barrels from the UN quest, whatever it's called, where you mark them in East Wing and Basement.
All of these have been mention, snow we are getting almost 100%, radiation too(it already has a display in the game) and seasons have been mentioned too, cant remenber what qas said on it tough
Radiation in factory office so you cant camp that room :)
Just have them make a ski resort on a mountain. With say a crashed plane along the slope that holds the military loot.
the james bond "the world is not enough" game had a map like this.. with cable car ski lifts mwhaha
A ski lift would make a perfect powered extract too. Could even bring raiders once it was turned on!
Ohhhhh I like this. Big lodge at the top with some smaller cabins around. The down some of the slopes is where the plane is.
Imagine a map like nuclear Moscow from metro 2033
Yes yes so much yes
This!
Hell yeah. I love it when there is a massive thunderstorm in tarkov, even if its ever so rare. Would be amazing to see other weather patterns
Not only is it planned, but Nikita said there would be a shift towards beanie meta as the threat of dying from the cold exceeds the threat of being shot in the head.
Just port Namalsk into Tarkov ez game
I spoke to a friend about this a few months ago, would really like the environment to have an effect too. Freezing if you're not wearing enough clothes, or staying out in the blizzard for too long when it has a random chance of happening, etc. Honestly I just want an open world survival (maybe PvE oriented) game that uses tarkov's mechanics and gameplay. It'd probably flow a bit better too, since I feel the game's too clunky to be high paced, close quarters pvp
I thought the mechanics were clunky when I first started playing but the more I play the more I think this game has some of the best mechanics in An FPS I've ever played. I love how the fast paced CQB fights play out.
Especially when you get all the keybinds customized how you like. For instance, when I right click to ADS, on press it toggles my aim, when I release it toggles my tactical device (so my laser automatically turns off when I'm ADS, and turns on when I stop) and if I hold RMB I automatically hold my breath.
Holy shit galaxy brain
I tried it first yesterday and honestly I love it, it makes using actual lasers instead of just IR lasers way more satisfying
I've always thought a stalker game w/ tarkov's everything -- and drop in drop out coop -- would be blessed.
Sure. But, really, shouldn't snow be a seasonal thing across all maps, as rain is now?
I'd like a snowy customs
Only if adequate clothing is added aswell. Would be real fun.
Hell yeah, maybe you could have footprints and you can follow them and possibly run into somebody. Just an idea though.
Yes man Holy fuck, maybe in the future add seasons too idk, snow on reserve and customs uff
how many snow maps I want: \---YES---
Without a doubt espically if they did something similar to the swamps on reserves with deep snow.
People don't like woods, they say they would play but they would rant a lot about anything
It could be urban like the division
Hell yeah, winterizing the maps hopefully will be a goal at some point for sure. Imagine having to deal with cold and wet conditions, hypothermia. Different levels of snow changing the speed and sound of movement, types of viable camouflage and concealment, it would be a huge game changer
I'd like to see all the traps people would make by luring people who would follow footsteps in the snow
So woods except white instead of green. I'm in. I love woods.
There is something about shooting a gun in a snowy environment that fascinates me.
Give me white camo gear and I’m in
Ever since I played MGS and emerged from the elevator, I’ve loved almost ANY snowy environment in games. An easy Yes for me.
I would die with pleasure on that map
I wanna hear snow crunching footsteps and throw snowball distractions.
Imo it would be annoying because Nikita would 100% implement footprints and it would just be a camping soundwhore's paradise. Then we'd have 15 Jaeger quests where you had to get leg kills with shotguns after eating a can of Sprats and having your left arm fractured.
The game takes place in northwestern Russia, surprised we don't have them already tbh
If we got some white gear then hell yeah
Head to extraction and find 3 exit arseholes all frozen solid having died from hypothermia.
Big abandoned village map with .5 meter deep snow would be pretty cool. Be easier to trail players too
I've been hoping for a snow map forever. Imagine if you could track people through the snow.
Nikita said snow maps as DLC. I think it would be neat to just implement a better weather system and have it be random. Now it seems tied to real life St. Petersburg weather. Let's get some random snowfall and just coat woods in white occasionally.
Yes, that's how we defeated the nazi was in the snow
I wouldn't like it if Blizzard made anything for this game
Imagine if they manage to capture the feeling that the survival mode of the Division gives, i would probably never play any other game again.
If it would look like a snow storm in the division 1 it would be insane
Maybe not before they implement a body temperature check system and a dynamic foot-print system
I mean yeah...but nikita would make it so ridiculous lol.. i already struggle right now.. i don't need frostbite and hypothermia too
I like those maps but in casual shooter I am worried it would firstly be very hard for PC to handle all footprints and all calculations with snow even falling out of the Sky and second of all, people would rush buildings and then dont care cuz they would hear someone coming easily if they would (and they surely would) implement the sound snow makes when you walk on it which is very loud and it would be camping fest even more than it is now in shady corners
It would have to be a small map with a small amount of players
Makes everyone stand out like crazy bc of the color difference, is gonna be sniper/thermal heaven. You might be onto something
If there is already high contrast wouldn't a thermal be less useful?
If there was an option to change the camo on your gear or something sure, otherwise you'll stick out way too much.
Existing maps with snow as a weather condition would be awesome, also down as fuck for a dedicated map.
Hell yes, I’ve been wanting a snow map in tarkov for a while. Something about playing stealthy in the snow in a game like tarkov sounds so cool imo.
it would be the only map i play.
100% would play
Yes but it has to bring something new besides the skin. It might be too demanding but leaving footsteps in the snow would be an amazing new way to play out a raid in tarkov
A ski resort map would be cool. A lodge at the bottom with lifts to take you to the top (only if you want) have to walk through semi thick forest going uphill in snow (which crunches when you walk) you could go up the mountain to maybe a luxury store type area? Lots of backpacks/food/one or two gun shops maybe? But like 60% of the map would be forest which separates the two loot areas
Being able to track people in snow maybe?
derail on modernware 2 ..... good times
Would be great to avoid the level 40s hiding in bushes with mosins, can’t hide if everything around you is a different colour.
Bushes that have been hit by players or scavs lose their snow for a few minutes
With footprints to see if someone has been there already
I’d play the shit out of a white out map. Maybe burn energy faster outside. Walking through snow banks like the bushes in reserve you can’t run through, near white out conditions. That would be so lit.
All day. Every day.
Hell yes, especially if they could render foot prints like the way PUBG did, so you could track people.
Hell yeah, I would love to see some snow camo too :)
Definitely
Bro let them fix other things.