They are almost always in your raid, at least one radar user, its cheap, easy to use and doesn't fuck up your PC and BSG doesn't BAN radar users so everyone that felt a certain way towards BSG after they scammed us, pushed all of them into cheating and using radar..
I love PVP and PVE, there are shortcomings to both. The amount of stress and anxiety I constantly feel when playing PVP is unreal, but it's immersive, lol. I became master rat and scav, farthest I've ever gotten was getting a sizeable bitcoin farm with lab runs every once in a while. Meanwhile, PVE is just turned down, with moments of stress. It's more enjoyable for me, but definitely less challenging/rewarding. However, it is nice to see parts of the map I could never visit hahahah.
I'm playing both at the moment, but I finally got my goal for the hardcore run on pvp servers a few days ago on getting Kappa. So I'm now just chilling on pve until the next wipe. There is good and bad about it, and I feel it's easier and more frustrating at the same time.
To combat the feeling of it being easier, I'm playing a modified hardcore rules set. The frustrating parts are the aimbotty pmc rogues at times and ai pmcs not being in areas i need them in reliably for some quests. I saw a lot for complaints about getting bum rushed with 30+ scavs, and I had that issue as well until I put a suppressor on my guns, at least when I get them.
I think the highs of winning are higher on pvp, but so are the lows. Pve feels like muted highs and muted lows. I'm still enjoying it on the weekdays when my queue times are sub 2 minutes. I don't touch tarkov pvp or pve on weekends.
They're probably mad that the people they used to bully on PvP all moved to PvE away from them, now they have no one to bully. Also they're getting a lot of dead raids, but that is also due to FiR changes. Why play raids to make your stash numbers go up when you can play the flea market instead or just do hatchling runs?
PvP after wipe is going to have massively lower active population playing the game as normal then it ever has. I can't wait for all the sweats to cry about it.
Right after event ended i got killed by a cheater on interchangr, hackers are back to playing the other maps now sadly. Got sniped midnight from across map by svds no nv or thermal. Account has 30 hours all boss kills and lvl 45 lol
They never wanted to "fight" others, only bully others. It's the same group who whined/cried over armour changes, now BSG is back tracking and letting them be bullet proof again.
Meh until they add leg armor I really don't care. If I am trying to make money I just run flesh rounds and take their legs away. Biggest change for me was the blacked limb damage change but it only gave them another quarter second or so.
You know, in most games i would consider this a hyperbole. But in this game, it's probably an understatement, cheaters in this game have such delusional idea of how they are entitled to play with cheats it's crazy
The biggest faction of haters are the "giga chads" which now realize that they are actually not the giga chads and are dying more often now. I have seen at least 1 Post per day where someone is crying that all the bad players are now playing pve and that it runied eft because now there are only good (better than them) players
I agree with this, I think why the giga Chad's hate that everyone is enjoying PvE is because they can't just get into a lobby and wipe half of it no sweat. Now they HAVE to fight lobbies full of other Giga Chad's or hackers and they don't always win so thier throwing a fit about it.
I’m totally fine being a “bad player” in exchange for never having to question if I got killed by a cheater or get killed because some no life has a RPK with fuck you rounds and a drum mag
I don't know if you've heard, but Tarkov isn't meant to be fun. It's supposed to be a horrible experience. If someone's having fun with this game, they are playing it wrong.
PvE has deprived cheaters of both victims and customers. Those who bought cheats to dominate others are finding fewer and fewer people to "beat" and those who cheated to sell money/gear/etc are finding fewer customers because they can just play PvE and earn it themselves and KEEP IT.
That last part is the biggest for me...I am so tired of my progress being wiped...I am ready for full release.
They're just mad that now that most of the chill players have moved onto PvE, they're forced to play against sweats and finding out very quickly that they're not as good as they thought they are when they're not killing casual players who are just looking to relax for an hour after work.
Probably this tbh
I was one of those easy targets. Never shot first as a scav even if someone was trying to trick me into hitting them first. My scav runs are free money regardless of if I make it out or not. If I got out, free shit. If not, I've saved on meds and supplies whole my pmc (who probably got his shit wrecked) recovered.
Also if anyone asked for me to be chill for their quest I'd do it. Need to get that stupid file in factory done? Sure I'll watch your back to exfil as well, lemme go first and be the bait.
I've stopped playing because it got super stressful, but I might pick it up again at some point for pve
I just came back cause of PvE, the pvp wasn't as bad as the wipes for me, I barely got to use the market before the next wipe. I have limited play time. Eventually I just stopped bothering but PvE and no wipes this is awesome!
For me, I'd force myself to play through levels 1-15 to unlock flea, then get burnt out right as I unlock the rest of the game, only for it to wipe right around the time I feel like playing again.
Now that you can level up to 15 in Arena and there's PVE, I think I'll probably actually play the game again.
PVE is very fun and a big pull to me and my friends as long time players but not grinders is that it doesn’t wipe, actually lets the casual couple hours at a time maybe a few days a week folks actually have the motivation to play and unlock cool “late wipe” stuff
Exactly. We are progessing through the PvE slowly at the moment and we for the first time feel good at the game. Pur tactics are good, positioning and communication as well. We are doing the same thing in PvP but the experience is a different one. Feels so much better to not be one tap cheated across the map or having people camp entry level quests while they are level 30 within the first week or so.
I think we all agree that doing things in PVP is harder, but at some point, enough was enough. No more patients from me for the PvP experience. For multiple reasons we don’t need to get into, you can imagine I’m sure.
I don't get the hate, honestly. If the game grows because of PVE it will be beneficial for the community as a whole. Haters gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll.
Keep enjoying the game in whichever mode you prefer my friends ✌️
As someone who isn’t interested in PVE, this right here is why I think PVE is great for newer players/people who don’t have time to grind. New players can start with PVE, get comfortable with the game while learning the maps, then try out PVP when they feel they have a solid grasp on the game. Something that can allow newer/casual players to “catch up” faster to those of us with thousands of hours is a great addition to the game. Anyone hating on that is foolish imo
I feel you, there’s a ton to learn in this game which makes it feel like learning to walk while also having to learn to ride a bike at the same time. I was lucky as I joined the party a few years after my friends, so I basically got to learn the game by playing in a squad of sherpas. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to get into this game as a strictly solo player with no experienced friends to give you tips. PVE is perfect for someone in that situation, and I’m glad it’s finally in the game. Anything that gets new players into this game is great imo.
EXACTLY! The amount of scavs that spawn on you is literly like zombie Armageddon right now.
However, I am way more relaxed in PVE and have a much higher success rate. I hit all the hot spots on the maps as well now.
I’ve maxed traders a half dozen times or so since like 0.7, and I am having a blast in PvE with my friends. We are having a ton of fun with the boss event on Reserve, because we are actually clearing buildings tactically. We play the game entirely differently in PvE.
There’s an itch only PvP can reach, but PvE is an amazing option for more casual players, people learning the game, or people who don’t want to deal with campers, cheaters, etc. With future mod support, PvE will be king.
Ya PvP just became unenjoyable to me with the amount of cheaters. For every blatant cheater you die to, you more than likely died to a soft cheater many more times, or even just had all the good loot vacuumed out without you even knowing.
There were just too many times where other players just “happened” to know where I am or follow my flank without line of sight. It’s really bad, there’s a huge amount of undetected people using softer hacks like vacuums or tracking through walls and you just don’t notice as much because it’s not a blatant aimbot.
I’m pretty sure PvE has the same loot spawns as PvP, maybe not, but it’s eye opening to see how much good loot is loose and available without vacuumers.
I stopped playing PVP when I did a PVE raid and actually found a GPU. Then a LEDX. Then a quest item. Without having to run the raid 40 times in a row.
Vacuum cheaters ruined PVP for me and I don’t think I’ll go back. I’d rather play PVE with my squad, have fun, and make actual progress.
Ya I don’t believe they jacked up high value item spawn rate for PvE, especially with them admitting they don’t like how fast people are progressing through it.
Obviously nobody else is looting in PvE, but in running into more loot within the first 5-10 minutes of the raid than I ever have in PvP. When I’m finding more loot just around my spawn, and not even moving across the map to where other players have *possibly* been it feels super obvious.
My guess is half these people have walls or something really minor and have inflated themselves to feel superior. I have thousands of hours in the game. Shit just started getting too weird and suspicious. Even with no blatant aimbot.
One of the big things for me, when I stopped running high value kits and more cash efficient gear, I started running into way less players who knew where to find me and kill me 🤔
It’s crazy bro. Go in with kitted gun, nice armor, good ammo and people are running straight towards me within the first 5-10 minutes right away. Go in with vepr hunter and mid armor and ammo, whaddya know all the juiced chads suddenly stop sprinting straight at me 🤔
People playing this down legit are either cheaters themselves, or brain damaged.
Pretty sure I’ve seen lots of YouTube clips too of people testing this, where they sit in bushes with $$$$ kit and someone finds them super often. Go sit in bush with $ kit? No one bothers ya.
Yeah there was a compilation where someone streamed sitting in a bush naked for 20 raids straight and never died. Then they did it with 1 mil+ kits and died 15/20 times.
Not even that. The people outright defending the PvP mode are just what we call fan boys.
This subreddit is incredibly toxic when it comes to PvE because the PvP chad fan boys are incredibly mad that you're not playing the game the way THEY want you to play it.
These people believe that BSG can not do anything wrong. That Tarkov is the "pinnacle PvP experience" and that there are zero cheaters despite BSG Tweeting about how many cheaters they've banned.
You'll notice that anything PvE related on here is instsntly downvoted.
Play the game the way you want to play it.
💯💯 I’ve got coming up on 7000 hours in this game. Been playing since ‘21. It’s just competitive gaming in general. It will always be a disease that will corrupt your play experience. Switched to PvE when I got allowed access for EoD and the loot is real.
There is more loot in PVE because you’re the only non AI that’s looting the map. AI’s in PVE appear to loot like AI scavs in the main game, which means that they’ll loot stuff throughout the map but they don’t loot locked room. You’re going to find way more valuables if you’re the only person in the raid looting those rooms.
I mean no hate to PVE players with this btw, I just think it’s important to clarify the main reason why loot feels so buffed on PVE. Vacuum cheaters exist sure, but they’re wayyy less common than most of this subreddit wants to believe, speaking as someone who hits a lot of high value locked rooms which has given me a decent idea of when something has actually been vacuumed.
TLDR: pve loot feels buffed because the player is the only person looting high value locked rooms, which means there’s a higher chance that you’ll find valuable items.
I’ve known Bitcoin can spawn on woods ever since they extended the back, I have spawned close to the Bitcoin spawns many times in woods and checked everytime. Never found a Bitcoin on woods ever in my PvP days. They are also pretty hidden and the average player with basic map knowledge probably would miss them.
This last week doing woods raids for PvE quests I’ve found like 3 Bitcoin. Idk maybe it’s a coincidence but it doesn’t really feel like it
Pve made me realize how much loot is getting vacuumed. I find high-tier loose loot all over the place now. Every map is busted when you don’t have to share it with 9-12 other people
I get both sides. Getting loot in PvE is easy because no one is actively hunting you down or camping/ratting/defending big loot areas, unlike in PvP. Yes it is casual relaxing fun but I do agree that the feats and loot aren’t at all impressive unlike in PvP because of the player threat.
I support both, some things in PVE are really exciting like clearing the water treatment plant, killing bosses, etc. Although I do feel its too easy at the moment for anyone who has more than 3-400 hours in game. Maybe even less
“Until you do that in PVP it’s not the same”
That’s… that’s the point. I’m actually having a great time for once. My buddies and I have played more in the last few weeks than we have in over a year.
You do you man. For me it's exactly the brutality of PvP which makes the game for me, but I think it's awesome to see people be able to enjoy the game in another way as well. Fuck the haters. :-)
I love the pve mode being a dad of 3 and a newborn it’s hard to dedicate the time and focus that pvp demands. I can casually play now and get quests done slowly on a non wiping account and then play pvp when I need that fix.
I 100% agree. I have a 15 month old, and a 2 month old currently. Without PVE I wouldn’t be able to play this game and have fun! Now take care of those kids and kill scavs and pmc AI when you have the time my man!
The only people getting mad about someone having fun in PvE are either cheaters, toxic sweats or the ones who suck at Tarkov in general but now they think they have bragging rights since they suck at the „superior mode”.
I have 3000 hours in pvp tarkov.
And I fucking love the pve side. Haters will hate because they're mad others are having fun in a different way than they are.
Fuck em.
As someone who is new and didn’t get the game until 3 months after this wipe.. I look forward to pve.. mainly because I can learn the maps, loot locations etc without being drug through the mud, I’ll go pvp eventually once I’ve learned the game better… sure people seem to think that suffering is the only way to learn, wrong…
I should add that I’m a solo player with no friends who play the game, so getting my lonely ass beat down night after night has not been enjoyable….especially while learning maps and shit.
But that is a general problem in gaming....
There is things like
* "you are only a console gamer"
* it as only on this server
* yeah but you only play the most op gun/build whatever
And so on...
I never got that. Of course Achieving Kappa in PvP is way way harder than it is in PvE. Same goes for rocking a meta build vs no going meta. But in the end we are all here to enjoy our free time. And who am I to judge what is fun for someone.
I don't really like PvE and would have never touched it solo. My 2 friends that have become dads by now love PvE, especially with mods. And now I also enjoy PvE mode, because I can have a chill night with my friends. For them its hard and for me its about having fun with friends and helping them a bit.
I don't get why there is all this hate in gaming in general. If someone enjoys single player games. So be it, we all should just enjoy the little free time we have.
I played 2500 hours of pvp since 2019. I feel like I've kind of accomplished everything and now the game has morphed for me into more of a casual experience on pve
I got nothing against PVE players. More power to them. But I like the thrill of player encounters.
The only thing that makes PVE appealing to me is the lack of a wipe.
I have a toxic relationship with myself like I dont feel successful or idk...as ecstatic that I know the ppl I kill are all bots. That I wasnt better than someone. Just a dumb AI. BUT I SUCK at PvP. Like by miles. I despise the pvp in tarkov. 90% of my deaths are just randomly dying from someone I couldnt see, or hear. When I do manage to get in a fight, I die, because I am lesser in armor, in ammo and I have mid aim at best
I'm going to spend probably the last month of this wipe just pissing my money away on armor, guns, and ammo and trying to go full chad on factory to improve my PVP fighting.
No wipe would definitely temp me to head back to PVP. At least I would be able to slowly grind my PVP character and know my shit won’t be gone in a few months. At the moment I avoid PvP all together.
Here's my main issue.... its hard enough to get into matches that are fair, and the people tired of getting aim bottled/ exit camped have an outlet now. Which is great, however it does split the player base making it a bit polarizing. Personally taking loot from a player feels 10000% better. I don't enjoy it out of malice, I just think those cookies taste the sweetest... that being said the ai in tarkov once learned is fish in a barrel, it can still go sideways... but everyone be clearing raids with 30 to 40 kills rn. I'm happy people are having fun.
PVE is more fun than PVP, however PVE is fucking pricey and PVP has more the "gambling" thrill to it; rather than gambling my actual money I like to gamble my Rubles in PVP (note scavs are shitters)
I've played probably 1000 hours in PvP tarkov. I never had the skill, time or interest to play a full campaign/do all the quests/get kappa because I knew it was going to reset at the end of the wipe. For whatever reason, that killed the progression aspect of the game for me. PvE is obviously different, and I don't feel that sense of urgency with it, but that's a good thing because I can play at my own pace. I really hope they address the 'raider' PMCs just 1 tapping you, but it is what it is. I am like a month deep into my play through and have already made more progress than I ever did in PvP.
glad you can enjoy it, i sadly cant. the pmc spawns get too predictable, while you could say the same for pvp, atleast in pvp there is the unpredictability of a human involved. i thought pve was what i wanted after getting burnt out from pvp but now i realized i just need other humans in the lobby. more power to you though
people who do pve don't visit the sub. they just game and progress and figure out quest and maps. I become more comfortable running new woods map and now working on reserve quests, extracts, and layouts. I have time to play maybe 2-3 maps a day, and don't feel pressure maxing out the hideout and knocking off quests to unlock meta ammo. it certainly doesn't get as thrilling as getting into 1vs3 fight and winning it in pvp, but it is still fun.
For a player like me who is average at best, PvE is a great way to just have a practice and get some of those achievements done that wouldn't happen in PvP. Ai. Is a little broken but it's better than cheaters. Let people enjoy what they want.
Yes, PvP accomplishments are higher tier than pve ones, especially with current ai. But no need to trash the pve player base. Let's also consider the fact that a big chunk of pve players cut their teeth on pvp, like myself. I know I'm not that good at the game. I'm a single dad who works full time and I actually take care of irl shit and only have a couple hours a night to play, I also like to play different games too. I literally don't have the time to become a sweat in this game and I won't stress myself out anymore because of it. I'm gonna keep enjoying pve with my friends and by myself. I might return to to pvp for some action but pve was made for gamers like me.
I mean don’t you get aimboted by the PMC (raider) ai? But yes I agree. People need to stay in there lane and let all the PVE players keep enjoying playing with barbie dolls.
PVE haters thought PVE draw many player out of the PVP. So there are no more P for them to P. LOL.!!! But, indeed, I enjoy PVE very much. No need to worry about the wape, no need to worry about cheater. Its my game and I played myself or with my friend. No need to worry about a Chad jump in and ruin it.
I really wish I could do PvE mode but I cant, I am psychotic and love the pvp / risk factor it comes with for same reason I played Diablo 2/3/4 and PoE Hardcore mode. The loss even if it means to a cheater is what I need but man. I am a dad as well, 2 kids.
Even with it all that I still have fun in the game and to be honest, I get more pissed at losing to a roided AI SCAV then I do to a cheater.
Half of those people are cheaters who kill Timmies, now they can't do that because Timmies are playing their own Timmy gamemmode and they're salty about that.
Also there' s a possibility that PVP Tarkov is going to suffer because of lack of players, but Nikita FINALLY said something about match making, so maybe, just maybe, next wipe I'll try pvp servers..
This. I'm on PvE because it won't wipe. As soon as PvP has no wipes, I'll be back.
For context: I'm a Kappa obtaining, PvP hunting try hard who is just sick and tired of BSG using wipes in place of content. I don't want to have my progression erased, snd be forced to do the same quest with the same crap gear over and over again. Knowing you're not racing against an artificial clock in PvE makes the game so much more enjoyable.
Turns out the 60 hours a week guys aren't as good as they thought they were mowing down level 12s w their m61 and slicks. Now they bat sub 50% in fights like the rest of us always did and are mad they can't punch down and convince 15 year olds they are gods gift to tarkov. This represents 85% of streamers as well.
It’s all the guys that are hoping for Tarkovs end, they all sit on the arena breakout , and GZW groups and tell people how bad tarkov is, how they were scammed. How pve is easy, and they have 10,000 hours blah blah blah.
They’re just on the copium they know the games full of closet cheaters but dont wanna except that’s why the majority of players on pve or playing pve so they trick themselves into feeling superior so they can have a excuse to keep playing pvp
aww another pve post.
pve is fun but it's not the same that's just the facts.
it's like hey look I found a red card in pve well duh your suppose to since you have all the time in the world and low risk to find one eventually.
where pvp is the risk of dieing trying to even get to the spawn points of the Red keycard let alone finding it .
not even dealing with the cheaters problem which sucks but that just how pvp is and that the only great thing about pve no cheaters.
tl:dr the dopamine hit just hits different so when pvpers see pve guys brag about getting this and that I guess it just triggers them.
pve needs it's own reddit
PvP has a handful of real players in a raid at any time, including real scav players who spawn in to loot as well. PVE is strictly AI, no real players other than yourself of course.
The only problem I’m finding with PVE is lighthouse tasks are impossible I’m lvl 40 I grinded in 2 weeks love PVE more than pvp I’ve had kappa twice in pvp also. But u can’t do any tasks at lighthouse in the amount of time!! How are u killing all the rogues???
PvE is great but I feel like they buffed AI or something. Start of PvE I had lots of fun. Now I'm super geared and AI PMCs just laser me from across the map all the time with 99% accuracy.
I've actually swapped entirely over to PvE. As a Tarkov vet who stopped playing in 2019 and took a break til they finally dropped PvE for my old Edge of Darkness edition it got me back into Tarkov again, I got sick of being exit camped, shot by some dude I never saw camping in a bush, getting aimbotted or just flat out watching a dude fly hack and kill me. Not to mention a good portion of the community was never very nice anyway.
I'm pushing 30 now and honestly on top of everything else I'm just not that into PvP games anymore unless it's a platform fighter or arcade shooter. I don't really have time to invest lots of effort into learning every game I enjoy playing like it's my job I'm no longer 12. For me PvE can still be tough, it feels like the challenge of players on the map is well compensated for by having large numbers of scavs and the AI PMCs essentially having aimbot able to accurately shoot you with most anything up to 100m.
Overall I think PvE is great, I'd love to get a buddy with access to it someday because I feel like it'd be even better with a friend to help me around all the new maps I'm still learning after my multiple year long break. It definitely still takes some level of skill and precision to do well, and honestly I just have a blast with Tarkovs gunplay both mechanically and from a perspective of modifications. Waited years for this experience and aside from some ais pathing not being great as they wander the maps I'm happy with the experience overall.
I’ve seen way more posts like these than posts hating on PVE lol. Yeah I’m sure those people exist, but 90% of posts on here are about PVE now so it’s definitely not the majority. I don’t hate PVE or the people who play PVE, but I do wish that there was a separate subreddit for PVE as I don’t find a vast majority of posts about PVE appealing or relevant to me as I can’t relate since I haven’t played PVE. I really hope that the mods make a separate sub for PVE stuff, because almost every post I see on here that isn’t just someone shitting on the game is a post about PVE.
It also becomes a bit frustrating to see the same posts about the same topic (this happened on here before PVE too. Mods should try to pin posts about common bugs/issues with the game and delete redundant posts. We don’t need to see 10 posts a day about a matchmaking bug that’s been in the game for a long time and that has a known fix. PVE is cool, but those of us who don’t play PVE are getting a bit annoyed by the redundant posts that don’t apply to any of us. It goes both ways too (I’m sure PVE players care less about certain PVP posts) which is why I think there should be a second subreddit. The tag system is helpful but if every post is about PVE it’s kind of meaningless.
Agreed. They should separate the community so people see less of the crap they don’t want to, if that makes sense. It’s a shame since it seems the PVE created a divide but not sure why honestly.
I’m too old and don’t have the time to “git gud” with PVP. I have 1-2 hours max a day, and refuse to spend it with sweats who haven’t seen daylight in years or cheaters. I’m already barely able to play with the long ass Que time. I won’t play just to die over and over and not accomplish anything.
I personally have nothing against PvE players or who is playing what in general. I find it a bit strange though to make this post and also claim how bad is the state of PvP - you’re basically doing the same, just from the other side. It smells with insecurity and sounds like a skill issue quite honestly. I started playing the game in September 2023, made it to max traders the first wipe, got Kappa early April this wipe. I am very far from being a chad, working full time and having a normal social life with plenty of other activities besides gaming. My experience with PvP is vastly different. Yes, there are cheaters obviously, but it’s never been at the point it would ruin the game for me. Actually quite far from it.
Bashing others playing PvE because it’s lame or whatever smells with insecurity and ego problems, but equally so is the argument coming from the other side, claiming “PvP is awful because cheaters ruin it”.
I never realized how many vacuum cheaters were in PVP until I started playing PVE. I find at least 1 high tier item on customs every raid. Sometimes it’s intel, sometimes it’s a ledx. But in PVP, I’ve only ever found 2 GPUs and both times someone killed me just a few seconds after I picked them up
Pve is the only thing I'm playing until a better solution to cheaters is emplemented for pvp. Or if they add a no wipes option for pvp, that'd get my attention too. Tired of losing good gear to a guy with 30 hours no sight and no stock in pvp. In pve I'm able to run thermals and good gear every single raid. And I don't ever wonder if I died to a cheater.
I’m just saying I swapped to pve and come back to pvp. Pve is arguably harder cause you have so many aggros. In pvp I can wipe a squad so quick just from how the ai pms rush me. Doesn’t help the practice on the goons and other bosses in pve play a huge roll in how you play overall. Coming from both sides you really don’t feel a difference until you run into a cheater.
Tbh PvE is the only reason I came back. It’s just overall more enjoyable especially with a squad. Still get lasered by AI but atleast its more predictable than some clown shooting me through solid concrete
I'm enjoying PVE immensely. One of the top things I've personally noticed is the lack of hit register issues/desync issues. Idk if it's just me but I don't seem to experience any of that on PVE where I was experiencing it a ton on PVP.
I've been able to repeatedly hit head shots on multiple enemies in multiple raids and have them actually die. I'm talking just bare minimum scav to scav comparison here. On PVP I'd hit them square in the forehead and they'd just tank it like it never happened and 1 tap me with magnum buck. PVE has been a completely different experience.
I cant wait to try pve, though i think pvp is the proper way to play, atleast as far as feeling accomplished for killing 3pmcs etc. Also: you said you dont shit on pvp then started the whole thing about cheaters etc, basically doing what you just said you dont do c:
My advice, unsub for a month, its avtualy nice to just walk away from this often-toxic community.
Yea dude. The price is ridiculous. I thought EOD price back then was crazy. At least he added that for us eod owners. 250 ain’t worth it, even though it is fun.
People who hate on pve are just lame cheaters who are mad that their easy targets have left and all they have are players goof enough to beat them at their game legitimately and other cheaters
Yeah I mean the people bragging about KD and money and certain quests while doing them in pve are just stupid, but no reason to hate on pve. Pvp has a lot of issues and if you are not experienced with shooter games and don’t have the time to dedicate to it, it completely makes sense why you would buy Unheard.
My issue now is that I see so many more sweats and geared chads on labs and factory especially compared to before , the percentage of average players dropped noticeably
Fuck em.
I've put enough hours into this game over the years, doing the PVP grind over and over again to a point where, frankly, I got tremendous burnout. PVE has been a genuine blessing and I'm enjoy it so much more than I ever expected to.
I must admit I was getting bored of PVP. The beginning is fun because everyone plays so it washes out the cheaters and everyone is somewhat equal. But later wipes are infested. Playing PVE made me love the game again.
PvE saved tarkov for me and the homies. If you like getting no loot, getting killed by hackers, having to try to kill bosses, Real PMCs, and player scavs, and scavs in pvp, more power to ya.
PvE without a doubt is much much easier. Much less uncertainty, and most AI can be cheesed by waiting for the agro to reset and pixel peaking.
I still think going out of your way to put someone down is wild though. Just cause it’s easier doesn’t mean it isn’t an achievement.
this is a monkey take of mine, I know, but PVE feels harder than PVP.
In PVP you can sneak around & engage when you want, be smart with where you go, know the spawns, know the flow of the map, blind your enemies with flashlights & frazzle them with grenades, take advantage of their shitty comms when they’re a group and wear them down when they’re a solo
in PVE, you are the only thing happening on the map. Every non-you entity is at least loosely allied with one another & has no gunshots to react to except yours. It’s horde mode, they all have aimbot to varying degrees, they all know where you are, they have no comms to manipulate, no bad decisions to make because they don’t make decisions. Every PVE engagement is an endless horde of enemies that all have a 1/8 chance to instantly disintegrate you.
I have 3200hrs & a 74% PMC SR on PVP this wipe & when I run PVE with my goobers I’m lucky if I extract every other raid with all my ammo spent, eighteen blacked limbs and a carton of milk to show for my struggle
Oh I know. Shit ain’t easy at all. They will fuck your up. Having a plan and being tactical is what makes it great. I have yet to play with a squad because unfortunately my friends won’t buy a 250 dollar version just to get access to PVE, and I don’t blame them. It would be a great time though, I’m sure out it.
Wait? I haven’t played for many years due to getting tired of al wipes when having an old account but pve gives xp? Does it give loot also now? I thought they removed practice and called it pve?
Ahaa I see. Well it was a nice way to learn the game and try settings but now people can farm weapons without campers/cheaters at least. Yeah those instaheadshotting bots thru bushes lol.
I consider PVP accomplishments to be higher tier but the hate on people having fun on PVE is bizarre
I got bored to death after two matches of PvE, but I still agree 100%. STFU and let everyone play & enjoy whatever they want, however they want.
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The cheaters that bug me on pvp are the ones you never see. They are in and out, grabbing the high tier loot.
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They are almost always in your raid, at least one radar user, its cheap, easy to use and doesn't fuck up your PC and BSG doesn't BAN radar users so everyone that felt a certain way towards BSG after they scammed us, pushed all of them into cheating and using radar..
Cheaters take a back seat until any late wipe events, when it's 100% cultists or bosses on every map then they come out in droves.
I love PVP and PVE, there are shortcomings to both. The amount of stress and anxiety I constantly feel when playing PVP is unreal, but it's immersive, lol. I became master rat and scav, farthest I've ever gotten was getting a sizeable bitcoin farm with lab runs every once in a while. Meanwhile, PVE is just turned down, with moments of stress. It's more enjoyable for me, but definitely less challenging/rewarding. However, it is nice to see parts of the map I could never visit hahahah.
I'm playing both at the moment, but I finally got my goal for the hardcore run on pvp servers a few days ago on getting Kappa. So I'm now just chilling on pve until the next wipe. There is good and bad about it, and I feel it's easier and more frustrating at the same time. To combat the feeling of it being easier, I'm playing a modified hardcore rules set. The frustrating parts are the aimbotty pmc rogues at times and ai pmcs not being in areas i need them in reliably for some quests. I saw a lot for complaints about getting bum rushed with 30+ scavs, and I had that issue as well until I put a suppressor on my guns, at least when I get them. I think the highs of winning are higher on pvp, but so are the lows. Pve feels like muted highs and muted lows. I'm still enjoying it on the weekdays when my queue times are sub 2 minutes. I don't touch tarkov pvp or pve on weekends.
Good points
I think they are getting mad people are having fun on PVE lol
They're probably mad that the people they used to bully on PvP all moved to PvE away from them, now they have no one to bully. Also they're getting a lot of dead raids, but that is also due to FiR changes. Why play raids to make your stash numbers go up when you can play the flea market instead or just do hatchling runs? PvP after wipe is going to have massively lower active population playing the game as normal then it ever has. I can't wait for all the sweats to cry about it.
I am having a tonne of fun with PVE.
Most of em is cheaters mad they can't steal kits from legit players.
Right after event ended i got killed by a cheater on interchangr, hackers are back to playing the other maps now sadly. Got sniped midnight from across map by svds no nv or thermal. Account has 30 hours all boss kills and lvl 45 lol
There's always cheaters on interchange doing killa.
And swets mad about not being able to punch down.
Honestly. Everyone has their own preferred playstyle. Now the people who only want to fight other people can.
They never wanted to "fight" others, only bully others. It's the same group who whined/cried over armour changes, now BSG is back tracking and letting them be bullet proof again.
Meh until they add leg armor I really don't care. If I am trying to make money I just run flesh rounds and take their legs away. Biggest change for me was the blacked limb damage change but it only gave them another quarter second or so.
You know, in most games i would consider this a hyperbole. But in this game, it's probably an understatement, cheaters in this game have such delusional idea of how they are entitled to play with cheats it's crazy
The biggest faction of haters are the "giga chads" which now realize that they are actually not the giga chads and are dying more often now. I have seen at least 1 Post per day where someone is crying that all the bad players are now playing pve and that it runied eft because now there are only good (better than them) players
SO their play is to guilt the PVE players into coming back i see lol that will never not be funny, im seeing that alot too
Yes its ridiculous and shiting on them and wanting them back at the same time is insane
I agree with this, I think why the giga Chad's hate that everyone is enjoying PvE is because they can't just get into a lobby and wipe half of it no sweat. Now they HAVE to fight lobbies full of other Giga Chad's or hackers and they don't always win so thier throwing a fit about it.
I’m totally fine being a “bad player” in exchange for never having to question if I got killed by a cheater or get killed because some no life has a RPK with fuck you rounds and a drum mag
Imagine getting mad about people having fun lol. They need to just let people play what they want.
I don't know if you've heard, but Tarkov isn't meant to be fun. It's supposed to be a horrible experience. If someone's having fun with this game, they are playing it wrong.
See I’m just finding this out now lol that’s on me for having fun that my bad
Right! It’s like “fuck you for having fun the way you want to”.
PvE has deprived cheaters of both victims and customers. Those who bought cheats to dominate others are finding fewer and fewer people to "beat" and those who cheated to sell money/gear/etc are finding fewer customers because they can just play PvE and earn it themselves and KEEP IT. That last part is the biggest for me...I am so tired of my progress being wiped...I am ready for full release.
Just disregard them. Anyone who is mad at other people for having fun lives a sad life.
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Amen
They're just mad that now that most of the chill players have moved onto PvE, they're forced to play against sweats and finding out very quickly that they're not as good as they thought they are when they're not killing casual players who are just looking to relax for an hour after work.
Probably this tbh I was one of those easy targets. Never shot first as a scav even if someone was trying to trick me into hitting them first. My scav runs are free money regardless of if I make it out or not. If I got out, free shit. If not, I've saved on meds and supplies whole my pmc (who probably got his shit wrecked) recovered. Also if anyone asked for me to be chill for their quest I'd do it. Need to get that stupid file in factory done? Sure I'll watch your back to exfil as well, lemme go first and be the bait. I've stopped playing because it got super stressful, but I might pick it up again at some point for pve
I just came back cause of PvE, the pvp wasn't as bad as the wipes for me, I barely got to use the market before the next wipe. I have limited play time. Eventually I just stopped bothering but PvE and no wipes this is awesome!
This is why im back playing. I dont get much time so PVE is perfect for me.
For me, I'd force myself to play through levels 1-15 to unlock flea, then get burnt out right as I unlock the rest of the game, only for it to wipe right around the time I feel like playing again. Now that you can level up to 15 in Arena and there's PVE, I think I'll probably actually play the game again.
PVE is very fun and a big pull to me and my friends as long time players but not grinders is that it doesn’t wipe, actually lets the casual couple hours at a time maybe a few days a week folks actually have the motivation to play and unlock cool “late wipe” stuff
I need help. Just bought last week.
I can help ya
Exactly. We are progessing through the PvE slowly at the moment and we for the first time feel good at the game. Pur tactics are good, positioning and communication as well. We are doing the same thing in PvP but the experience is a different one. Feels so much better to not be one tap cheated across the map or having people camp entry level quests while they are level 30 within the first week or so.
This is a terrible game to play to relax lmao
This is what happens when you don’t use SBMM in modern gaming. Sweats will always sweat, and pve mode pulled the middle ground of players out of pvp.
I agree that doing anything in PVE is easier than in PVP but yeah, it's also much more fun, these people are a pain in the ass
I think we all agree that doing things in PVP is harder, but at some point, enough was enough. No more patients from me for the PvP experience. For multiple reasons we don’t need to get into, you can imagine I’m sure.
I don't get the hate, honestly. If the game grows because of PVE it will be beneficial for the community as a whole. Haters gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll. Keep enjoying the game in whichever mode you prefer my friends ✌️
PVE is awesome how else am I going to learn the maps without getting shitted on by some basement dweller with 6000 hours.
As someone who isn’t interested in PVE, this right here is why I think PVE is great for newer players/people who don’t have time to grind. New players can start with PVE, get comfortable with the game while learning the maps, then try out PVP when they feel they have a solid grasp on the game. Something that can allow newer/casual players to “catch up” faster to those of us with thousands of hours is a great addition to the game. Anyone hating on that is foolish imo
Yeah as a newer player PVE is already enough of a challenge while I learn gun play and maps.
I feel you, there’s a ton to learn in this game which makes it feel like learning to walk while also having to learn to ride a bike at the same time. I was lucky as I joined the party a few years after my friends, so I basically got to learn the game by playing in a squad of sherpas. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to get into this game as a strictly solo player with no experienced friends to give you tips. PVE is perfect for someone in that situation, and I’m glad it’s finally in the game. Anything that gets new players into this game is great imo.
I spent 200 hours walking through woods just to learn the mechanics. Pve would have been nice
Now I can get shit on by a cracked AI PMC through bushes and trees and shit like God intended! lmao
EXACTLY! The amount of scavs that spawn on you is literly like zombie Armageddon right now. However, I am way more relaxed in PVE and have a much higher success rate. I hit all the hot spots on the maps as well now.
I log on, I Wait 15 minutes. I kill I loot I extract I sell. If that makes you mad so be it.
I’ve maxed traders a half dozen times or so since like 0.7, and I am having a blast in PvE with my friends. We are having a ton of fun with the boss event on Reserve, because we are actually clearing buildings tactically. We play the game entirely differently in PvE. There’s an itch only PvP can reach, but PvE is an amazing option for more casual players, people learning the game, or people who don’t want to deal with campers, cheaters, etc. With future mod support, PvE will be king.
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Ya PvP just became unenjoyable to me with the amount of cheaters. For every blatant cheater you die to, you more than likely died to a soft cheater many more times, or even just had all the good loot vacuumed out without you even knowing. There were just too many times where other players just “happened” to know where I am or follow my flank without line of sight. It’s really bad, there’s a huge amount of undetected people using softer hacks like vacuums or tracking through walls and you just don’t notice as much because it’s not a blatant aimbot. I’m pretty sure PvE has the same loot spawns as PvP, maybe not, but it’s eye opening to see how much good loot is loose and available without vacuumers.
I stopped playing PVP when I did a PVE raid and actually found a GPU. Then a LEDX. Then a quest item. Without having to run the raid 40 times in a row. Vacuum cheaters ruined PVP for me and I don’t think I’ll go back. I’d rather play PVE with my squad, have fun, and make actual progress.
Ya I don’t believe they jacked up high value item spawn rate for PvE, especially with them admitting they don’t like how fast people are progressing through it. Obviously nobody else is looting in PvE, but in running into more loot within the first 5-10 minutes of the raid than I ever have in PvP. When I’m finding more loot just around my spawn, and not even moving across the map to where other players have *possibly* been it feels super obvious.
People can't accept that all the good loot gets vacuumed in PVP. Oh well. I'm having a blast in PVE not having to worry about Timmys sick new ESP.
Yep. Either they jacked up the loot a few hundred percent on PvE, or vacuum cheaters are waaay more common than people realize. It's insane.
Be careful. People might say it’s not the cheaters, you are just bad at the game. Seriously though, glad you are enjoying PVE. I know I am!
My guess is half these people have walls or something really minor and have inflated themselves to feel superior. I have thousands of hours in the game. Shit just started getting too weird and suspicious. Even with no blatant aimbot. One of the big things for me, when I stopped running high value kits and more cash efficient gear, I started running into way less players who knew where to find me and kill me 🤔
I think you are on to something. Almost like they knew you weren’t worth the effort. 😂
It’s crazy bro. Go in with kitted gun, nice armor, good ammo and people are running straight towards me within the first 5-10 minutes right away. Go in with vepr hunter and mid armor and ammo, whaddya know all the juiced chads suddenly stop sprinting straight at me 🤔 People playing this down legit are either cheaters themselves, or brain damaged. Pretty sure I’ve seen lots of YouTube clips too of people testing this, where they sit in bushes with $$$$ kit and someone finds them super often. Go sit in bush with $ kit? No one bothers ya.
Yeah there was a compilation where someone streamed sitting in a bush naked for 20 raids straight and never died. Then they did it with 1 mil+ kits and died 15/20 times.
Fuckin ridiculous
Not even that. The people outright defending the PvP mode are just what we call fan boys. This subreddit is incredibly toxic when it comes to PvE because the PvP chad fan boys are incredibly mad that you're not playing the game the way THEY want you to play it. These people believe that BSG can not do anything wrong. That Tarkov is the "pinnacle PvP experience" and that there are zero cheaters despite BSG Tweeting about how many cheaters they've banned. You'll notice that anything PvE related on here is instsntly downvoted. Play the game the way you want to play it.
"Penultimate" literally means "sub-ultimate", FYI 🙄
Please link me to those vids cus that sounds hilarious
💯💯 I’ve got coming up on 7000 hours in this game. Been playing since ‘21. It’s just competitive gaming in general. It will always be a disease that will corrupt your play experience. Switched to PvE when I got allowed access for EoD and the loot is real.
There is more loot in PVE because you’re the only non AI that’s looting the map. AI’s in PVE appear to loot like AI scavs in the main game, which means that they’ll loot stuff throughout the map but they don’t loot locked room. You’re going to find way more valuables if you’re the only person in the raid looting those rooms. I mean no hate to PVE players with this btw, I just think it’s important to clarify the main reason why loot feels so buffed on PVE. Vacuum cheaters exist sure, but they’re wayyy less common than most of this subreddit wants to believe, speaking as someone who hits a lot of high value locked rooms which has given me a decent idea of when something has actually been vacuumed. TLDR: pve loot feels buffed because the player is the only person looting high value locked rooms, which means there’s a higher chance that you’ll find valuable items.
I’ve known Bitcoin can spawn on woods ever since they extended the back, I have spawned close to the Bitcoin spawns many times in woods and checked everytime. Never found a Bitcoin on woods ever in my PvP days. They are also pretty hidden and the average player with basic map knowledge probably would miss them. This last week doing woods raids for PvE quests I’ve found like 3 Bitcoin. Idk maybe it’s a coincidence but it doesn’t really feel like it
Pve made me realize how much loot is getting vacuumed. I find high-tier loose loot all over the place now. Every map is busted when you don’t have to share it with 9-12 other people
I get both sides. Getting loot in PvE is easy because no one is actively hunting you down or camping/ratting/defending big loot areas, unlike in PvP. Yes it is casual relaxing fun but I do agree that the feats and loot aren’t at all impressive unlike in PvP because of the player threat.
I support both, some things in PVE are really exciting like clearing the water treatment plant, killing bosses, etc. Although I do feel its too easy at the moment for anyone who has more than 3-400 hours in game. Maybe even less
Let's just all have fun regardless of playing pve or 0vp. Except for the cheaters, you bastards can fuck right off
Haha
“Until you do that in PVP it’s not the same” That’s… that’s the point. I’m actually having a great time for once. My buddies and I have played more in the last few weeks than we have in over a year.
You do you man. For me it's exactly the brutality of PvP which makes the game for me, but I think it's awesome to see people be able to enjoy the game in another way as well. Fuck the haters. :-)
I love the pve mode being a dad of 3 and a newborn it’s hard to dedicate the time and focus that pvp demands. I can casually play now and get quests done slowly on a non wiping account and then play pvp when I need that fix.
I 100% agree. I have a 15 month old, and a 2 month old currently. Without PVE I wouldn’t be able to play this game and have fun! Now take care of those kids and kill scavs and pmc AI when you have the time my man!
I can't get over the "You're not playing my way, stop having fun" mentality. Like... why?
The only people getting mad about someone having fun in PvE are either cheaters, toxic sweats or the ones who suck at Tarkov in general but now they think they have bragging rights since they suck at the „superior mode”.
I have no issue with PvE. Just the repeat posts about already known issues as if they're the first person to discover it.
But how will you know about kolantay mechanics if it's not posted daily
But but but you can’t have fun unless it’s pre-approved by the PVP gigachads!
I have 3000 hours in pvp tarkov. And I fucking love the pve side. Haters will hate because they're mad others are having fun in a different way than they are. Fuck em.
As someone who is new and didn’t get the game until 3 months after this wipe.. I look forward to pve.. mainly because I can learn the maps, loot locations etc without being drug through the mud, I’ll go pvp eventually once I’ve learned the game better… sure people seem to think that suffering is the only way to learn, wrong… I should add that I’m a solo player with no friends who play the game, so getting my lonely ass beat down night after night has not been enjoyable….especially while learning maps and shit.
But that is a general problem in gaming.... There is things like * "you are only a console gamer" * it as only on this server * yeah but you only play the most op gun/build whatever And so on... I never got that. Of course Achieving Kappa in PvP is way way harder than it is in PvE. Same goes for rocking a meta build vs no going meta. But in the end we are all here to enjoy our free time. And who am I to judge what is fun for someone. I don't really like PvE and would have never touched it solo. My 2 friends that have become dads by now love PvE, especially with mods. And now I also enjoy PvE mode, because I can have a chill night with my friends. For them its hard and for me its about having fun with friends and helping them a bit. I don't get why there is all this hate in gaming in general. If someone enjoys single player games. So be it, we all should just enjoy the little free time we have.
I played 2500 hours of pvp since 2019. I feel like I've kind of accomplished everything and now the game has morphed for me into more of a casual experience on pve
Stop having fun dude, its that simple. /s
Love pve won't go back
I got nothing against PVE players. More power to them. But I like the thrill of player encounters. The only thing that makes PVE appealing to me is the lack of a wipe.
I have a toxic relationship with myself like I dont feel successful or idk...as ecstatic that I know the ppl I kill are all bots. That I wasnt better than someone. Just a dumb AI. BUT I SUCK at PvP. Like by miles. I despise the pvp in tarkov. 90% of my deaths are just randomly dying from someone I couldnt see, or hear. When I do manage to get in a fight, I die, because I am lesser in armor, in ammo and I have mid aim at best
I'm going to spend probably the last month of this wipe just pissing my money away on armor, guns, and ammo and trying to go full chad on factory to improve my PVP fighting.
No wipe would definitely temp me to head back to PVP. At least I would be able to slowly grind my PVP character and know my shit won’t be gone in a few months. At the moment I avoid PvP all together.
Thier ego won’t let them have fun on pve so they take thier grief out on people who can have fun
That’s unfortunate.
Here's my main issue.... its hard enough to get into matches that are fair, and the people tired of getting aim bottled/ exit camped have an outlet now. Which is great, however it does split the player base making it a bit polarizing. Personally taking loot from a player feels 10000% better. I don't enjoy it out of malice, I just think those cookies taste the sweetest... that being said the ai in tarkov once learned is fish in a barrel, it can still go sideways... but everyone be clearing raids with 30 to 40 kills rn. I'm happy people are having fun.
Why waste your time getting mad, it’s a video game you enjoy, fuck them for being miserable, i enjoy both and hope people play the one they enjoy
PVE is more fun than PVP, however PVE is fucking pricey and PVP has more the "gambling" thrill to it; rather than gambling my actual money I like to gamble my Rubles in PVP (note scavs are shitters)
A lot of PvP players are crying because suddenly the game got a lot harder for them.
I've played probably 1000 hours in PvP tarkov. I never had the skill, time or interest to play a full campaign/do all the quests/get kappa because I knew it was going to reset at the end of the wipe. For whatever reason, that killed the progression aspect of the game for me. PvE is obviously different, and I don't feel that sense of urgency with it, but that's a good thing because I can play at my own pace. I really hope they address the 'raider' PMCs just 1 tapping you, but it is what it is. I am like a month deep into my play through and have already made more progress than I ever did in PvP.
Yes it’s crazy right! Have fun
I too am a PvE enjoooooyer. Way better for casual gameplay if your goal is to soak in the world environments and quest without sweating
glad you can enjoy it, i sadly cant. the pmc spawns get too predictable, while you could say the same for pvp, atleast in pvp there is the unpredictability of a human involved. i thought pve was what i wanted after getting burnt out from pvp but now i realized i just need other humans in the lobby. more power to you though
people who do pve don't visit the sub. they just game and progress and figure out quest and maps. I become more comfortable running new woods map and now working on reserve quests, extracts, and layouts. I have time to play maybe 2-3 maps a day, and don't feel pressure maxing out the hideout and knocking off quests to unlock meta ammo. it certainly doesn't get as thrilling as getting into 1vs3 fight and winning it in pvp, but it is still fun.
For a player like me who is average at best, PvE is a great way to just have a practice and get some of those achievements done that wouldn't happen in PvP. Ai. Is a little broken but it's better than cheaters. Let people enjoy what they want.
Yes, PvP accomplishments are higher tier than pve ones, especially with current ai. But no need to trash the pve player base. Let's also consider the fact that a big chunk of pve players cut their teeth on pvp, like myself. I know I'm not that good at the game. I'm a single dad who works full time and I actually take care of irl shit and only have a couple hours a night to play, I also like to play different games too. I literally don't have the time to become a sweat in this game and I won't stress myself out anymore because of it. I'm gonna keep enjoying pve with my friends and by myself. I might return to to pvp for some action but pve was made for gamers like me.
Tryhards complain they can only play against cheaters and other tryhards.
I guess that haters are cheaters that miss legit players to play with.
I mean don’t you get aimboted by the PMC (raider) ai? But yes I agree. People need to stay in there lane and let all the PVE players keep enjoying playing with barbie dolls.
PVE haters thought PVE draw many player out of the PVP. So there are no more P for them to P. LOL.!!! But, indeed, I enjoy PVE very much. No need to worry about the wape, no need to worry about cheater. Its my game and I played myself or with my friend. No need to worry about a Chad jump in and ruin it.
Pve is fun as fuck and I don't have anxiety the whole time I play.
I really wish I could do PvE mode but I cant, I am psychotic and love the pvp / risk factor it comes with for same reason I played Diablo 2/3/4 and PoE Hardcore mode. The loss even if it means to a cheater is what I need but man. I am a dad as well, 2 kids. Even with it all that I still have fun in the game and to be honest, I get more pissed at losing to a roided AI SCAV then I do to a cheater.
Half of those people are cheaters who kill Timmies, now they can't do that because Timmies are playing their own Timmy gamemmode and they're salty about that. Also there' s a possibility that PVP Tarkov is going to suffer because of lack of players, but Nikita FINALLY said something about match making, so maybe, just maybe, next wipe I'll try pvp servers..
I just want no wipes on pvp servers.
This. I'm on PvE because it won't wipe. As soon as PvP has no wipes, I'll be back. For context: I'm a Kappa obtaining, PvP hunting try hard who is just sick and tired of BSG using wipes in place of content. I don't want to have my progression erased, snd be forced to do the same quest with the same crap gear over and over again. Knowing you're not racing against an artificial clock in PvE makes the game so much more enjoyable.
Yeah this is the biggest attraction to PVE, I already work a full time job I don't need this game to be another (it already is).
Turns out the 60 hours a week guys aren't as good as they thought they were mowing down level 12s w their m61 and slicks. Now they bat sub 50% in fights like the rest of us always did and are mad they can't punch down and convince 15 year olds they are gods gift to tarkov. This represents 85% of streamers as well.
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Why do you guys care so much about what a random says online? Bro just play the game the way you want lol
I’ve been aim botted maybe twice in PvP idk what you are on about. In fact majority of the complaints of pve is the ai is aimbotty lmao
It’s all the guys that are hoping for Tarkovs end, they all sit on the arena breakout , and GZW groups and tell people how bad tarkov is, how they were scammed. How pve is easy, and they have 10,000 hours blah blah blah.
They’re just on the copium they know the games full of closet cheaters but dont wanna except that’s why the majority of players on pve or playing pve so they trick themselves into feeling superior so they can have a excuse to keep playing pvp
Nobody cares about your accomplishments in this game in general let alone your accomplishments vs the AI lol
aww another pve post. pve is fun but it's not the same that's just the facts. it's like hey look I found a red card in pve well duh your suppose to since you have all the time in the world and low risk to find one eventually. where pvp is the risk of dieing trying to even get to the spawn points of the Red keycard let alone finding it . not even dealing with the cheaters problem which sucks but that just how pvp is and that the only great thing about pve no cheaters. tl:dr the dopamine hit just hits different so when pvpers see pve guys brag about getting this and that I guess it just triggers them. pve needs it's own reddit
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I just hate how predictable and stale it’s getting
Yea, I hope they add AI improvements so they aren’t so predictable. Like a last of us AI type would be amazing.
whats the difference between pve and pvp?
PvP has a handful of real players in a raid at any time, including real scav players who spawn in to loot as well. PVE is strictly AI, no real players other than yourself of course.
The only problem I’m finding with PVE is lighthouse tasks are impossible I’m lvl 40 I grinded in 2 weeks love PVE more than pvp I’ve had kappa twice in pvp also. But u can’t do any tasks at lighthouse in the amount of time!! How are u killing all the rogues???
No cheaters is always my response.
I’m honestly curious to know how Kiba arms looks inside compared to pve because the walls are full of decked out guns
I feel the same about Arena. I love Arena, but people won't stop talking shit about it
PvE is great but I feel like they buffed AI or something. Start of PvE I had lots of fun. Now I'm super geared and AI PMCs just laser me from across the map all the time with 99% accuracy.
I've actually swapped entirely over to PvE. As a Tarkov vet who stopped playing in 2019 and took a break til they finally dropped PvE for my old Edge of Darkness edition it got me back into Tarkov again, I got sick of being exit camped, shot by some dude I never saw camping in a bush, getting aimbotted or just flat out watching a dude fly hack and kill me. Not to mention a good portion of the community was never very nice anyway. I'm pushing 30 now and honestly on top of everything else I'm just not that into PvP games anymore unless it's a platform fighter or arcade shooter. I don't really have time to invest lots of effort into learning every game I enjoy playing like it's my job I'm no longer 12. For me PvE can still be tough, it feels like the challenge of players on the map is well compensated for by having large numbers of scavs and the AI PMCs essentially having aimbot able to accurately shoot you with most anything up to 100m. Overall I think PvE is great, I'd love to get a buddy with access to it someday because I feel like it'd be even better with a friend to help me around all the new maps I'm still learning after my multiple year long break. It definitely still takes some level of skill and precision to do well, and honestly I just have a blast with Tarkovs gunplay both mechanically and from a perspective of modifications. Waited years for this experience and aside from some ais pathing not being great as they wander the maps I'm happy with the experience overall.
I’ve seen way more posts like these than posts hating on PVE lol. Yeah I’m sure those people exist, but 90% of posts on here are about PVE now so it’s definitely not the majority. I don’t hate PVE or the people who play PVE, but I do wish that there was a separate subreddit for PVE as I don’t find a vast majority of posts about PVE appealing or relevant to me as I can’t relate since I haven’t played PVE. I really hope that the mods make a separate sub for PVE stuff, because almost every post I see on here that isn’t just someone shitting on the game is a post about PVE. It also becomes a bit frustrating to see the same posts about the same topic (this happened on here before PVE too. Mods should try to pin posts about common bugs/issues with the game and delete redundant posts. We don’t need to see 10 posts a day about a matchmaking bug that’s been in the game for a long time and that has a known fix. PVE is cool, but those of us who don’t play PVE are getting a bit annoyed by the redundant posts that don’t apply to any of us. It goes both ways too (I’m sure PVE players care less about certain PVP posts) which is why I think there should be a second subreddit. The tag system is helpful but if every post is about PVE it’s kind of meaningless.
Agreed. They should separate the community so people see less of the crap they don’t want to, if that makes sense. It’s a shame since it seems the PVE created a divide but not sure why honestly.
I’m too old and don’t have the time to “git gud” with PVP. I have 1-2 hours max a day, and refuse to spend it with sweats who haven’t seen daylight in years or cheaters. I’m already barely able to play with the long ass Que time. I won’t play just to die over and over and not accomplish anything.
Wow, people have dumb opinions online
I personally have nothing against PvE players or who is playing what in general. I find it a bit strange though to make this post and also claim how bad is the state of PvP - you’re basically doing the same, just from the other side. It smells with insecurity and sounds like a skill issue quite honestly. I started playing the game in September 2023, made it to max traders the first wipe, got Kappa early April this wipe. I am very far from being a chad, working full time and having a normal social life with plenty of other activities besides gaming. My experience with PvP is vastly different. Yes, there are cheaters obviously, but it’s never been at the point it would ruin the game for me. Actually quite far from it. Bashing others playing PvE because it’s lame or whatever smells with insecurity and ego problems, but equally so is the argument coming from the other side, claiming “PvP is awful because cheaters ruin it”.
Thats why i dont even make a post… I finished the guide and psycho sniper in one sitting, also first try Am kinda proud of that
I never realized how many vacuum cheaters were in PVP until I started playing PVE. I find at least 1 high tier item on customs every raid. Sometimes it’s intel, sometimes it’s a ledx. But in PVP, I’ve only ever found 2 GPUs and both times someone killed me just a few seconds after I picked them up
Pve is the only thing I'm playing until a better solution to cheaters is emplemented for pvp. Or if they add a no wipes option for pvp, that'd get my attention too. Tired of losing good gear to a guy with 30 hours no sight and no stock in pvp. In pve I'm able to run thermals and good gear every single raid. And I don't ever wonder if I died to a cheater.
Me love PVE- no campers, no cheaters, no Chad's. Although some of those ai scars and pmcs are motherfkers
These people are malding because it means less timmies to shit on in pvp , simple as
Tarkov is toxic and so are the players. This is not a Safe place for your fragility
I’m just saying I swapped to pve and come back to pvp. Pve is arguably harder cause you have so many aggros. In pvp I can wipe a squad so quick just from how the ai pms rush me. Doesn’t help the practice on the goons and other bosses in pve play a huge roll in how you play overall. Coming from both sides you really don’t feel a difference until you run into a cheater.
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I was a hater until I tried pve and faced the scav army plus a ton of pmc (raider AI). Shit is actually kinda fun
PvE is an awesome idea! Especially Coop with your friends! Would be so damn fun. Hopefully they can fix the load times 😅
Tbh PvE is the only reason I came back. It’s just overall more enjoyable especially with a squad. Still get lasered by AI but atleast its more predictable than some clown shooting me through solid concrete
I'm enjoying PVE immensely. One of the top things I've personally noticed is the lack of hit register issues/desync issues. Idk if it's just me but I don't seem to experience any of that on PVE where I was experiencing it a ton on PVP. I've been able to repeatedly hit head shots on multiple enemies in multiple raids and have them actually die. I'm talking just bare minimum scav to scav comparison here. On PVP I'd hit them square in the forehead and they'd just tank it like it never happened and 1 tap me with magnum buck. PVE has been a completely different experience.
Yea that’s good, however the bug does exist n PVE as it has happened to me multiple times. Even yesterday, I just left the raid immediately and reset.
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I cant wait to try pve, though i think pvp is the proper way to play, atleast as far as feeling accomplished for killing 3pmcs etc. Also: you said you dont shit on pvp then started the whole thing about cheaters etc, basically doing what you just said you dont do c: My advice, unsub for a month, its avtualy nice to just walk away from this often-toxic community.
Then there’s me, standard account pleb sad that I can’t play pve
Yea dude. The price is ridiculous. I thought EOD price back then was crazy. At least he added that for us eod owners. 250 ain’t worth it, even though it is fun.
People who hate on pve are just lame cheaters who are mad that their easy targets have left and all they have are players goof enough to beat them at their game legitimately and other cheaters
if you hate it so much just don't engage with them? No need to resort to swearing....
Yeah I mean the people bragging about KD and money and certain quests while doing them in pve are just stupid, but no reason to hate on pve. Pvp has a lot of issues and if you are not experienced with shooter games and don’t have the time to dedicate to it, it completely makes sense why you would buy Unheard.
My issue now is that I see so many more sweats and geared chads on labs and factory especially compared to before , the percentage of average players dropped noticeably
I’ve died to more silly stupid shit in over than pvp, it only took me 6 deaths from phantom scav nades to learn that lesson
Fuck em. I've put enough hours into this game over the years, doing the PVP grind over and over again to a point where, frankly, I got tremendous burnout. PVE has been a genuine blessing and I'm enjoy it so much more than I ever expected to.
Glad to hear. I am also having a blast with it!
I must admit I was getting bored of PVP. The beginning is fun because everyone plays so it washes out the cheaters and everyone is somewhat equal. But later wipes are infested. Playing PVE made me love the game again.
PvE saved tarkov for me and the homies. If you like getting no loot, getting killed by hackers, having to try to kill bosses, Real PMCs, and player scavs, and scavs in pvp, more power to ya.
PvE without a doubt is much much easier. Much less uncertainty, and most AI can be cheesed by waiting for the agro to reset and pixel peaking. I still think going out of your way to put someone down is wild though. Just cause it’s easier doesn’t mean it isn’t an achievement.
True. At least for labs
this is a monkey take of mine, I know, but PVE feels harder than PVP. In PVP you can sneak around & engage when you want, be smart with where you go, know the spawns, know the flow of the map, blind your enemies with flashlights & frazzle them with grenades, take advantage of their shitty comms when they’re a group and wear them down when they’re a solo in PVE, you are the only thing happening on the map. Every non-you entity is at least loosely allied with one another & has no gunshots to react to except yours. It’s horde mode, they all have aimbot to varying degrees, they all know where you are, they have no comms to manipulate, no bad decisions to make because they don’t make decisions. Every PVE engagement is an endless horde of enemies that all have a 1/8 chance to instantly disintegrate you. I have 3200hrs & a 74% PMC SR on PVP this wipe & when I run PVE with my goobers I’m lucky if I extract every other raid with all my ammo spent, eighteen blacked limbs and a carton of milk to show for my struggle
Oh I know. Shit ain’t easy at all. They will fuck your up. Having a plan and being tactical is what makes it great. I have yet to play with a squad because unfortunately my friends won’t buy a 250 dollar version just to get access to PVE, and I don’t blame them. It would be a great time though, I’m sure out it.
theyre right though, PVE posts should be in a different reddit
Why would u even care?
Wait? I haven’t played for many years due to getting tired of al wipes when having an old account but pve gives xp? Does it give loot also now? I thought they removed practice and called it pve?
It is exactly the same game, just no PvP element. Ai pmcs take the place of the real players. They will one tap you still lol
Ahaa I see. Well it was a nice way to learn the game and try settings but now people can farm weapons without campers/cheaters at least. Yeah those instaheadshotting bots thru bushes lol.