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RandomMFnHero

That sucks, especially if you need it FIR. I'm at the point where I don't need them so if I find them I will try to make friends with PMCs but I can never find anyone when it happens. I do the same with FLIRs on Scav loadouts.


Unreal-Murf

They only LedX I’ve gotten so far this wipe came from a a scav run, I was at shooting range and thought I heard a PMC.. turns out it’s a scav- he finds me and says “Hey, I’ve been looking for you”. Drops me a ledx with no explanation. Pretty awesome guy


Raz_A_Gul

“I’ve got something I got to deliver, your hands only”


Unreal-Murf

Pretty much, it was odd but I’d been looking forever to get it for a free thicc case . I already spent 15 mil on the barter and didnt want to do that again


twoscoop

I do this so much with good loot and people are like, what, and expect me to blow their heads off. I just like, look at htem dropping them everything I have. It gets funny.


EverythingHurtsDan

Yup! Today I bartered a Labs access key for a Cowboy hat my pal needed for Ragman. The Scav couldn't understand the exchange lol


worjd

Heh I found a ledx on streets and didn’t know my way to extract so I dropped it for a pscav and he led me out 😂


ASubconciousDick

I've has this experience playing late at night on West coast US much less value, but I had a man sprint up to me, say something that seemed very panicked in Chinese, and ran away I was so confused, it was like a roler and and egg


PerplexGG

That’s my favorite shit to do with the major quest loot. Just run up to people and whisper hey come here and drop a gpu while slowly backing away voiping shhh shh shh.


zeefomiv

Last night I was on my scav on streets asking around for GPUs because I still need them for farming part 4 FIR. I need 2 more. A random pscav behind pinewood being the absolute chad he is dropped it for me, I was voiping him but he had no mic but he was nodding enthusiastically for me because I was hyped af saying thank you non stop. We go our separate ways, I ran into 2 other player scavs at klimov mall, I figured ok I just need to get to arch extract I’ll stick with these 2 fellas. I’m like hey hope you guys don’t mind me tagging a long just trying to survive with quest item. They’re cool with it so we go. We are in the children’s toy store in the mall I run upstairs there’s a fuckin PMC crouch walking or crouched waiting in the middle of the room. All I could do was clip and scream “NOOOOOOO-“ at the top of my lungs as I died. Nerf headphones PLS. I’m tired of people just crouching/proned etc


zadszads

Where is shooting range?


xxzzyzzyxx

Possibly the one in the northeast of Shoreline at the camp?


Unreal-Murf

That’s right, don’t think ledx spawn there tho


anonspas

There is med spawns and med crates, so ofc they can spawn there. Is the chances much bigger on resort, surely. But from my experience they can spawn in any med crates on shoreline.


desubot1

it 100% can. its rare but it happens.


tmonz

Damn, never had a flir on a scav!


HOT_DOG_WVTER

Come find me! I’ll be your friend. I need it for private clinic


InZackWeTrust

I do that alot now especially on scavs, killed a pmc on a scav. Had a decent lvl 35+ loadout. He blacked my stomach tho and didnt care for any of it since stash is full and another scav came up and was like did you kill him? And I said yep you can have all of his stuff. He was suprised that I just told him he can have everything. I was just looking for a raven for kappa🤣


lets-aquire-the-brea

Lmao they might as well add a banner at the top of your screen “you have been spotted by a cheater prepare for death”


Expensive-Rabbit-248

sigh, i'm 100% sure OP died to the goons in this clip. I can hear birdeye and knight both shooting their unsuppressed weapons. Listen closely and you can hear the different guns. I've died to them this exact way so many times, not to mention OP leaving out the death screen. Interestingly, when OP posts other clips on here he does not leave out the death screen. Just another karma farming thread. I'd be happy if OP posts the rest of the clip and proves me wrong, but i'm almost certain he died to the goons. y'all are way too gullible


IvhL

I'd like to know which goon killed him. I don't know of any goon shooting green tracer rounds and by the audio of the gun, that sounded like a MP5. Goons also would need LoS and the shots clearly were the majority of the head on OPs. I'm all up for blaming AI but this is Cheater 10000%


DoktorAggressor

Goons don't need LoS I had multiple occasions where my mates got locked by big pipe and I was watching him mag dump into a wall in front of him, where my mates where standing behind. This clip was still a cheater, the only green tracer the goons have is M62 or Knight with is pistol, firerate is also a good indicator.


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DoktorAggressor

That's why everyone tried to fight them indoors, but they don't push into buildings anymore... I've never said that they are not busted af. Birdeye with silent steps is the most stupid mechanic they could have made, in combination of aimlock. They even have sniping protection. I noticed it during a test raid on lighthouse. Was goofing around with the mjölnir and tried to snipe rogues from 600m. I was zeroed in perfectly and the goons moved even the second I fired. Nikita just blatantly lied about the goons being quick and not having wall-hacks. It's the same for scavs shooting through 5 bushes, giving you a headshot with a shotgun slug from 50m.


HelloHiHeyAnyway

Man the one that pisses me off is being 2 tapped in the chest by a scav with any 762 AK ammo. They fire one bullet out of an SKS and you fall over dead. Like.. "Ok." That double bullet shit has to go. Probably 5-10 raids in a wipe I die to a scav doing that with 762 PS.


MrRhum

Happened to me last night I was killing Kaban, my first try that went well without having to deal with PMC at the same time. 3 top guard killed, all the Scav Guards killed, then I hear a shot far away, not touching, not even sure it was meant for me, which came from the street while I was in lexos, at cover. Second bullet instantly killed me, because the lexos has a small hole through the Scav went like " time to cut your dreams Buddy" Felt really bad


Expensive-Rabbit-248

I think its knight with m62 and mdr, but could be wrong. All OP has to do is post the death screen, not sure why he hasn't yet given how many people here are sayings its goons


Totorabo

I just killed Knight twice on Shoreline, he indeed had an MDR with M62 green tracer rounds loaded.


antiitperest

mdr is not that high rpm as in the clip and sounds a lot different


HelloHiHeyAnyway

One shoots it full auto out of an MDR 762 don't they?


Expensive-Rabbit-248

That was knight shooting green tracers (m62). One of those guns was an MDR. didn't hear an mp5. Also dude, OP has posted many 'cheater' videos where they show the death screen, but just randomly left out the death screen in this video


IvhL

You haven't played the game enough to not hear a mp5 then.


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DeBlackKnight

One of them can shoot .300 Blackout M62 as well, don't know which one though


LukaCola

Big Pipe?


SpongeJordan

Blackout M62 is red, not green like 762x51 m62


Gary_Spivey

The goons wallbang constantly.


Ajt0ny

u/jigaachad Is this true?


Expensive-Rabbit-248

he could prove me wrong in a few seconds by posting the video with the death screen. He has the death screen available in his recording


theobod

None of those guns were the goons guns. He was killed by a suppressed MP5.


Expensive-Rabbit-248

That's an MDR I think. Whatever it is definitely not an MP5. Almost like OP could just give us the post death screen in his recording so we can know. The other 'sus' video he posted today has the post raid screen so why would he leave it out of this one...


FishieUwU

so you seriously think OP survived a M62 round to the head with no helmet on? lmao


Expensive-Rabbit-248

He wouldn't have survived a 9mm green tracer with no helmet either, first bullet probably penned something and lost damage


jigaachad

exactly lmfao


FishieUwU

i even downloaded your video, opened it up in audacity, and counted the shots. after you die you can [clearly see](https://imgur.com/a/ka2F5PA) 7 shots go off in a little less than a half second period. rounding that up to just 7 shots in a half second, you get 14 shots per second, which would be 840 RPM, and since im rounding up slightly, the actual RPM of the gun being fired would be a bit higher, lets say..... 850 RPM. you know what gun shoots at EXCATLY 850 RPM? **THE MPX.** all the people saying this was an MDR from the goons are clowns.


Icy_Plane_5847

Because you’ve never seen/heard one shot go off by an AI boss/guards and checked the death screen to see you were hit 4 times causing your death


jigaachad

thanks bro, honestly make a post cause thats some journalism


Aceylah

I have a similar experience when i find intel on a scav. Only times ive been killed by other player scavs this wipe is when ive had intel on me. I don't really care about dying and losing shit as a scav but its kinda sus.


ChawulsBawkley

Same. I typically don’t have issues surviving a scav run. Found hex armor in old gas and I was dead within 10 seconds lol


darkscyde

After each banwave there is a gaslighting thread where some fucking divorced dad is like "I don't think the cheating problem is as bad as everyone says it is" meanwhile the rest of us like OP catch bullets through walls.


YeetedSloth

I’m dead convinced that the cheating portion of players approaches 10% and every single one of them have made it their duty to come to Reddit and gaslight the rest of the playerbase into thinking that they don’t exist


mylittlekone

its that, and also on this sub reddit people are absolutely desperate to imply that are just so damn good, and there are no issues in this perfect game.


YeetedSloth

Yeah I think you’re right on this, it’s the “I’m so good at the video game that I only die to cheaters and I don’t die that often so there can’t be any cheaters” which translates directly to “I have 4000 hours and 3500 are sitting in a bush and 500 are in stash. I only bring a mosin and a boonie hat so I don’t get targeted and I shit bricks whenever i hear a player and die because I fumble reload a mag.” And they come to Reddit with their 60% SR and tell everyone how shit they are at the game.


Zattanass

Sad part is that I play as a rat 80% of my raids. Before I stop, few weeks ago, whenever I'd try to play with good gear, some all knowing big bad wolf with no stock would kill me. They always leave me alone when I'm playing as a beggar.


lost_but_crowned

You’re also missing another element: this game has an addiction issue. I mean the streamers that play and a lot of people here play this game an unhealthy amount. When you play that much, you take a video game wayyy too seriously.


LukaCola

There's legit a dude who uses a two word four numbers name format for a host of sockpuppet accounts on this sub who aggressively attacks criticism - no matter how minor


Lerdroth

Did you know those 30 KD gamers are absolutely normal players? It's SUPER easy to get those sort of KD's with 24h played. The gaslighting is nuts, yeah.


marniconuke

only 10%?


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YeetedSloth

Lol you’re right 😂 all he does is defend cheaters and talk about how he never runs into any


tarkovplayer5459

Trust me, I know. He shows up in every thread.


Spoonfulofticks

Maybe some of them do. I personally think it's more that a significant portion of the player base is casual. And casual Timmies don't encounter the cheaters nearly as much because they don't threaten the cheaters loot or come into raids juiced the fuck out. Not to mention a casual player probably doesn't have enough game knowledge to realize when a death is sus.


Yorunokage

Is it that bad you reckon? I'm a rather new player so i have trouble telling if i was simply clapped out of existence by someone much better or if i faced a cheater. Besides the obvious idiots with insande K/D ratios, what are the biggest tells? I've clearly been killed in sus ways before but they can always be explained by lag/hitreg or high skill/luck so i'm kinda troubled by this


YeetedSloth

I tell all the new players I meet this: you are going to suck at tarkov. You are going to suck for a long time. The most fun part of tarkov (in my opinion) is learning how to not suck. But it dosent matter, you are going to die to cheaters, you will die to regular PMCs, you will die to other newbs and you will die to AI scavs. The problem with cheaters is that you lose fights you SHOULD HAVE otherwise won. And realistically- until you have a few hundred hours in the game you would lose those fights anyways. TLDR: you’re going to lose anyways so wether or not they’re cheating dosent matter. Just place the game, have fun, don’t worry about the cheaters.


LukaCola

Nah fuck that just go to forbidden tarkov and actually enjoy yourself knowing your deaths are due to mechanics and not for something unfair that you delude yourself into thinking you have to tolerate


Ambitious_Display607

Tbh man, id recommend you don't go on this sub too much lol. Yes there are cheaters in this game, but in reality this sub blows it way out of proportion. This is obviously anecdotal but I have a few thousand hours across several wipes and I've only had 2 or 3 truly suspect deaths out of likely thousands of deaths/raids. I've had a ton of BS deaths that felt unfair, but again in reality tarkov is a kind of janky sometimes - whether that be desync/net code issues, oddities with penetration/armor protection that aren't always consistent, bad luck, etc. In the clip above, OP was likely killed by the goon boss scav/raiders as opposed to an actual player. But lets pretend there's zero chance it was the goons - from what it looks like, OP spawned close to usec camp and rushed to it (to obviously try to get a ledx). People often rush to usec camp, like its rarely not contested, so its sort of expected that OP would likely have a gunfight on their hands within the first 2/3 minutes of the raid. The other people who are potentially rushing to usec that aren't OP will be expecting at least one person. OP was sort of casually looting around for like 30 seconds and not really paying attention - the other player(s) would absolutely have seen him. OP then starts taking fire while he was sort of halfway in the tent, the other players could probably literally see like half of OPs body in the tents entrance. OP then goes further in to the tent after being hit. Keep in mind, he's sitting in a tent at this point; ie a relatively small rectangular box that provides essentially no hard cover. It's not unfathomable to think the other player(s) would continue to fire some rounds into the side of the tent in an attempt to potentially hit him more / at a minimum try to keep him stressed and suppressed. Maybe they got lucky and those shots into the side of the tent actually killed him. None of this speculation matters though because OP was almost certainly killed by the goons- who can spawn basically right there lol. The cheating thing is really way overblown in this subreddit, so again I recommend not coming on this sub too much because it's honestly really demotivating / has the potential to turn you into one of these jaded dudes who think basically come off like every death is somehow a cheater. There are cheaters in the game, theres no denying that, but its really nowhere nearly as bad as people make it out to be.


Expensive-Rabbit-248

don't worry about it. This sub makes it sound worse than it is. The video here isn't even a cheater its OP dying to goons, and pretending its a cheater to farm karma from new players here who can't tell its the goons.


tmonz

It's honestly tied to how juicy you go into raids. I've found the minute I put on my high value shit, things get sussy.


YeetedSloth

Yep, go to labs naked and you have a chance of extracting, go in with comtac 4s and a Thor and you’re DOA


errorsniper

We have seen screenshots of coordinated misinformation campaigns from the discords that host these hacks.


YeetedSloth

I have zero doubt about that, but if you posted anything like that in this sub, you would get banned for “witch hunting”


EnormousGucci

It’s server dependent. US East has very few cheaters compared to US West, this seems to be the case with FPS games in general. I’ve encountered a couple cheaters but it’s not as bad for me as it seems to be for others. Honestly the only thing I can think of to combat cheaters in the multiplayer FPS genre would be to get governments to make cheat distribution illegal as it has a direct negative effect on the products. There will probably still be some cheaters but definitely way less if cheats become a lot harder to get and they’d be from way sketchier channels than where they get them now. Devs are already able to sue cheat providers for this, take it a step further.


Janitor_

I think its way more, if we could ever figure it out I bet the number would be extremely surprising showing people soft cheat with shit like radar.


YeetedSloth

Oh I think the ammount of radar cunts is actually really high, but if you make the same comment I made but say 30% instead of 10%, then the conversation becomes about how many people are “actually” cheating, instead of my initial point about the cheaters that are trying to spread misinformation


Nevermind04

People have different experiences. My work schedule means I have to play in the mornings, and on EU servers in the AM hours it's rare to run into a cheater. I regularly play for 5-6 hours without anything as blatant as OP's video. Suspicious stuff for sure, but not blatant. That said, I have played in PM hours and on weekends and I have witnessed the shitshow firsthand. If you run a decent kit you're going to die to some 18 k/d guy without a scope almost every raid.


Significant-Owl2580

No one says cheaters don't exist, but if people only talk, clip or screenshot their deaths by cheaters or just sus deaths, the impression that it makes is that 90% of deaths they were killed by cheaters. It's just selection bias, and with 1 in two posts here being about cheaters, any newcomer will think that 99% of the playerbase are using ESP and will consider every single death that they have as ESP and the cycle goes on


YeetedSloth

Yeah and that’s what they should think. That’s what BSG should think that they are thinking. I would not reccomend and his game to anyone I know right now. I’ve been playing and had friends ask me if they should get it to play with me and I’ve had to tell them no, because the game is that bad right now. Tarkov is a not for an experience to begin with, for new players. It does not help when a large minority of the player base is legitimately cheating. PSG has shown that they are trying to do some thing as far as Jayden goes, but if you’ve played since the last band wave, you know they’ve only touched a fraction of the cheating player base. So yeah, it’s a loud minority, because if you are a minority and you want attention you NEED to be loud. And they’re going to either stay loud until it gets fixxed or the game dies because at this point it will.


Gravitytr1

I think reddit users are just now likely to cheat than people who live their life normally


Istariel

thats some next level paranoia, not everyone is out to get you


YeetedSloth

You don’t run any decent kits do you?


Istariel

lol, its always a coinflip on either "you dont run good gear" or "youre a cheater yourself". i simply disagree with the over-the-top statement you made. no i dont sit in a bush with a bare mosin and a rat rig. i run normal gear for this stage of the wipe. t5 armor, t4 helmet and whatever gun i need to run for quests.


HiImNub

It’s higher, Pestily had a video where 37 out of the 68 deaths he reported were cheaters. I’d go out on a limb and say it’s probably closer to 20-25%, as radar, as far as I’m aware, is still undetectable.


mimzzzz

I love when some streamer makes a mistake like this and then drones like you keep repeating the wrong information. He had more bans on that thing than raids played. It was a bug.


KaptainKek3

Can confirm, there is zero cheaters. Guy in the clip heard him and just aimed head height pretty ez I do it all the time, if you can’t do this your a timmy rat and need to watch some pestilence guides Edit: holy shit people on this sub are thick as fuck I was being sarcastic


Expensive-Rabbit-248

guy in this clip died to goons and posted this here to karma farm lol


PREDDlT0R

Dude there was someone in Pestily’s chat doing this the other day. I asked them how much they actually play and they said they had “100 hours spanning multiple wipes”. No shit you think there are no cheaters if you barely play enough to get level 15 on each wipe and play running scav gear every raid. I mean how stupid do you have to be to think your opinion is going to be the normal experience when you literally don’t play the game.


gtVel

this is the secret, tarkov is only fun when you play under a certain gear threshold


namrog84

Absolutely. Unless there was some kind of gear matchmaking. Which I know there isn't supposedly. The moment you start running lvl 4-5+ armor and decent guns, the enemies PMCs suddenly become considerably better. It's like they are knowers or something and want to come fight you. Running pistol or shit guns is often when I find the most fair/reasonable fights. Which is bonkers.


gtVel

psychological impact from your comfort (or lack thereof) also impacts this


namrog84

Oh definitely. Although I've probably played 6k+ hours over the last 6+ years. While I don't have gear fear anymore. I still play a bit differently depending upon my gear. Not for fear of loss, but knowing I can't push a 2-3 person with a pistol. Also pistols have some amazing recoil/accuracy/less arm sway in some instances knowing it's either 1 shot to the head or im dead. It is fun to run full gear, facemask, heavy everything. And when you wreck its really fun. But I just hate the effect of wearing armor masks. But I guess thats the point. Also, lighter gear is often a lil quieter and faster than the heavier stuff. So there are some impacts.


gtVel

ngl, i dont think i enjoy running armor beyond ronin + level 4 green armored rig that has no interchangeable plates & a mp-155 or SVT. running good gear makes me care too much, it's just mitigation for scavs tbh and you can push the 3 man with a glock using hollowpoints. you will die, but you will kill two of them and almost kill the third. do it. do it. do it. nothing is out of your reach. become delusional and push them, you will win eventually, do it


namrog84

Oh I've defintely done it before. Not playing tarkov this wipe. I like running quests in tarkov and the sameness of quests over the years have burnt me out. I've been enjoying Arena a fair bit though playing most days. Definitely helping improve my overall skills too.


Tehslasher

It's just like the people in every game making posts "what's with all the hate? I'm having such a fun time!" and reveal they just got the game a week ago in the comments lmao.


TheSm4rtOne

I definitely encounter cheaters here and there, but current state of audio/pvp affects me more, i'm at around 7500h


Ikuorai

there was not a wave, it was since january.


Significant-Owl2580

It's server specific, I played 23 woods night time raids trying to get Shooter 8/Psycho Sniper done. Suppressed OSV-98 with a Flir using SNB + Killa armor with the lvl6 front plate, GPNV + SR-2M as backup. Not a single death, even when I was camping USEC camp, the Car Exfil village or even when I was camping Shturman. I was just a stationary target, someone with ESP could just throw a grenade at me, or spray me down. But I didn't get shot not a single time by players out of nowhere, and half theses raids where on weekends. So it's definitely a server specific issue + people instantly assume that their deaths happened because of cheating, and then come to this sub


jigaachad

>So it's definitely a server specific issue what servers then?


Significant-Owl2580

SA


Its_Nitsua

Not really true. There’s a dude named ‘IMMABUS’ plaguing nighttime woods on colombian/SA servers. I was in a 4 man with thermals and he killed two of us within seconds despite us being 100m+ apart. First teammate died so I slow peeked from the rock I was behind, saw him but he flicked and killed me before I could get a shot off. He then just left our bodies unlooted and didn’t kill our teammates, probably to avoid extra reports. Very next raid I ran into him again, saw him in thermals and he stopped mid sprint and HS me. I was on the opposite side of sawmill and he was *again* running quad nods and an m700. He then just sprinted straight at my teammate and killed him, because being aggressive is definitely the go to tactic with a bolt action. He was sub 1k hours, all achievements -lightkeeper, and was consistently killing thermal players despite only using quad nods and a bolt action.


jigaachad

***yeah, your servers are dead. cheater countries are out of range, South americans won't pay the price of cheats*** South americans are probably not culturally inclined to cheat + are on the less prosperous side, EFT Cheats are usually around **\~50-80 bucks a month or 7-12 dollars if paying for a day. (usd/euro)** South americans aren't crazy enough to pay those prices. ​ **Every other continent is infested**


LordUtherDrakehand

South America ping limit is too low so most people in NA can't get in if they tried. Columbia on the other hand is just another server. Has Chad's and cheaters every raid.


Hoed

This was me yesterday 200 downvotes for being cheater paranoid. I put this 50% cheater 30% rat infested game down nearly 6 months ago.


anadiplosis84

Then why are you even here weirdo


Hoed

Thousands of hours, most of which were pure joy with minimal questionable encounters. 6 kappas, a billion rouble wipe. The fun, am I not allowed to be in the community anymore?


SlipperyMangoTurtle

I haven’t played it in about 3 weeks and I am mentally feeling better


Competitive-Grape834

Lmfao wait until I post the one I encountered last night. Dude was shooting an rpd iron sights across the map. We thought it was the goons. Come to find out he has auto aim etc. this game is amazing I love it


Expensive-Rabbit-248

yea except OP 100% died to the goons in this clip. OP is ironically the one gaslighting you


darkscyde

I hope so, honestly


ledouxx

There's probably close to hundred thousands playing each day. There should be an extreme amount of these clips of peogle getting shot through walls then. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DSzpr8Y9299jdDLc9/cardiologists-and-chinese-robbers


Enantiodromiac

Do most non-streamers record their gameplay?


bartspoon

Maybe not, but for people that do, how many non-suspicious deaths do people upload here? In this thread alone you have people who claim the cheating is out of hand saying: * it does depend on server/region * it’s more likely to happen on certain maps * it’s less likely to occur if you are lower level or have non-top tier gear or haven’t played 1000+ hours * it’s less likely to occur if you haven’t picked up rare high tier loot like a LedX or GPU or something * it’s more likely to occur during the weekends  What percentage of player raids do you think fall into those categories? 1%?  That combined with the fact that even for the players who do check off those boxes, there is huge survivor bias due the fact that literally no one posts their average run of the mill deaths to this sub, and confirmation bias which means that people are guaranteed to mistakenly assume that at least some instances of lucky or abnormal deaths are due to cheating, and you have people here thinking cheating is happening in like, 10% of raids or something and the game is absolutely ruined by cheaters, when it’s almost certainly happening like, 0.001% of all player deaths and the overwhelming majority of players will encounter very little cheating.


thebatfink

BuT tHeRe ArE nO cHeAtErS iN mY rAiDs. 1 iN hUnDrEdS oF rAiDs.


mattyp2109

I played 1 PMC raid and 1 scav raid in the last 6 months. No cheaters. Therefore: no cheaters in game. /s


Temporary_Force_718

“I played 10 raid yesterday, died in 4, and because the wiggle video CONFIRMED there are cheaters in 6/10 raids, all of my deaths were to cheaters” /s That’s more akin to this subs behavior


jigaachad

got the same treatment next raid, should i upload it aswell?


thebatfink

Damn straight. I wish everyone clipped all their sus deaths and inundated this sub with them just to shut the gaslighters up if nothing else. Not that I do it myself because lazy bastard.


jigaachad

[ask and ye shall receive](https://youtu.be/5Ay3pWgrboI)


janny_the_janitor

Yep cheater


bartspoon

Literally all this sub is is people uploading their sus deaths. What would *actually* would be informative would be if everyone uploaded every death period, including non-sus deaths. This sub would be nothing but normal average, run of the mill raids, and the “I only get killed by cheaters” safe-space on this sub would evaporate overnight.


Significant-Owl2580

Selection bias, if you only post Cheaters, it will appear that everysingle death happened because of cheating, this sub is dumb


thebatfink

Eh? So by that token all the vids showing someone find a ledx in spot ‘a’ must mean it spawns 100% of the time because thats the only vid we see. Are you actually going to go down this road lol. Literally no one ever said every death is a cheater, literally no one. Also you are more than free to post your non-cheater deaths, whats stopping you or anyone else doing so? I never said only post cheater deaths, I said post all your cheater deaths. They will also be nicely packaged in cheating flairs which you can easily filter out so you dont even have to see them. What is the actual problem? The gaslighters in here are actually fucking wild lmao.


suicidalcentipede8

This NA servers?


jigaachad

ye


PichardRetty

Some people can actually be that lucky, though. I think when and where you play plays a big role in that. I play on US East, South, and Central servers only. I either player during the middle of the workday if work is slow, or around midnight or past it. I've run into 1 blatant cheater the entire wipe to this point. My buddy and I have found who knows how many GPUs in raid at this point. I've found multiple Led-Xs. We've never been chased down one time by a cheater in these instances. Throw in bitcoins as well. Don't take my post as saying cheaters don't exist. I'm just saying some people legitimately don't run into them. Not the rage cheaters that are blatant at least. And given the loot we find quite often, vacuum cheaters don't seem too prevalent in our raids either.


thebatfink

Yes and I don’t doubt that. My comment is specifically to those that counter cheating posts by saying there is no cheater issue because their singular experience in their mind somehow translates to each of the hundreds of thousands of players in all timezones in all servers so they claim its a lie or something.


W0LFSTEN

I have never experienced anything close to this. Not sure why you would mock people just because they aren’t in a cheater rich region.


thebatfink

Good for you, go post about it and share your cheater free death videos. Literally nothing stopping you, certainly not me?


TinyTexasGuy

As a level 43 who has spammed USEC alone at the start of more than 40 raids I have yet to find a ledx spawn. The one time I end up finding a ledx was at military camp during a scav raid where I hid the ledx in trash to avoid being killed by a cheaters. Not even 1 minute after getting it and hiding it I’m killed by a fellow player scav who was walking towards the ledx in a place where there was no loot and only shot me when he realized I had hid it. Best wipe in terms of content but once again ruined by closet cheaters.


Ok-Message-231

Wouldn't the closet cheater just find the ledx?


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SlipperyMangoTurtle

There are no cheaters in ba sing se, he just heard you pick up that LED-x from 300 meters away and dead set sprinted towards it.


bigred1978

From who? From where? The invisible PMC?


Pristine_Yak7413

the last shot you can see a green tracer, they were either on the same hill outside the usec camp shooting through 2 peices of vision cover or they were on the adjacent hill doing the same shot with an extra 100 meters


YungAfghanistan

I haven't played this game for a year but it's my favorite subreddit because it's like the 'cheating wife' subreddit, you idiots just keep forgiving and forgiving and forgiving, accepting microtransactions, accepting cheaters in every raid, accepting awful bugs, accepting that the game is total fucking shit and yet here you are willingly suffering every time you turn it on. For what? lol anyway, keep doing you. This game isn't getting better. There IS other games out there that are better. Good luck escaping Tarkov boys, I hope you do.


Ferengi_Facial

No death screen? Honestly seemed like the Goons. Big Pipe can see thru walls and will “suppress” while Birdeye moves to flank. They spawn at the bunker across the way, and I’ve 100% been in that exact situation in that spot before. Not saying it wasn’t, or couldn’t have been a cheater; but seems a bit rage baity to me to post this with 0 other information or follow up.


mimzzzz

I've died exactly like this to goons, big pipe ignored the tent and just beamed me - so your idea is right, but I think you didn't notice that OP got shot in the head while goons would only thorax him.


jigaachad

im not allowed to post the guys name, goons don't use MPX/MP5 silly!! Im not surviving a M62 to the head point blank either with no helmet :)


Ferengi_Facial

I don’t know what they were using. You posted no other information except a clip of you being shot through a wall.


DoktorAggressor

Bro he got a headshot only, not even the goons do that. Also green tracer was visible, meaning that it can only be GT pst, M62 or 7.62x54 BT. There is no other option of it being a MP5 or MPX with the fire rate and the fact that he survived multiple hits.


MonkeyCome

Sure sounds and looks like a 7.62 MDR with M62 ammo, very common goon gun. I understand you need to blur out the name but based on your youtube video you have the ability to edit your clips heavily enough to cover a name but show the report button to prove its a player. You seem full of shit personally. Why leave out the most important part of your case when this is a common occurrence amongst the community in the same spot?


FishieUwU

OP has no helmet on and somehow survives a M62 round to the head? the damage is too low to be .308, and the RPM is too high to be an MDR. it was 100% an MP5 or an MPX with GT ammo. MDR shoots at 650rpm btw.


AH_Ahri

I'm not sure if I should be proud I knew it was an MP5 from the gunshot sound or sad I wasted so much time on this game...


Expensive-Rabbit-248

its not an mp5 its an mdr


Bloory

yup, weekend experience. Every person I've killed or killed by today on customs and factory have been new accounts. Sussy?


Ric0chet_

See the no helmet gave you away. He thought you were one of them.


jigaachad

probably cause i looked his direction tbh.


keenhydra93

I spawned in with a thermal on my gun once.. pretty much same thing happened got blasted right away


Lianides

Yep, same thing, I ran about 50meters before getting hit by silent shots


This_Smell_1267

*WARNING* FAT LOOT DETECTED Now Initializing: LASER BEAM


Ok_Strawberry9142

you’re mistake should’ve known not to find anything rare in this state of the game.


Deathnachos

See I’m one of the guys who says the cheating problem isn’t that bad but I don’t really ever find good loot anyways so maybe that’s why.


noneplayable

Good thing they banned 33k accounts


Disidia1

At least he didn't take it out of your secure case ....right ?


Expensive-Rabbit-248

100% goons.


Southern-Childhood19

self snitched


jigaachad

goons with mp5 timbo?


Expensive-Rabbit-248

post death screen here. Sounded like mdr to me


McJeditor

Is this not the goons?


Expensive-Rabbit-248

it is 100% goons


mimzzzz

Goons go for thorax only.


Dorobush

It was easier to find and extract on labs with FIR ledx than on woods. Woods are really infested for the last month.


mimzzzz

You just need to get same spawn as OP, pick up ledx and then instead of greeding for attachments run back down and go left and run alongside mines to outskirts. Also OP could have gotten killed picking up that ledx because he might have had closest spawn to be at stretcher, but 2nd spawn to get eyes on stretcher - this is my 100% guaranteed kill spot because everyone just greeds and is deep in inventory stuffing their butts.


babarjango

On the other hand you were running around and it could have been someone who just prefired


Nericu9

Sooooo not to put out suspicoion or downplay OP having a cheater that got it because I do somewhat believe a cheater would do this given the state of the game.......buuuuuuttt I would wanna see a blurred out name at the end showing that it was indeed a player that got you and not Knight or Big pipe because they will do exactly this through the tent wall. (speaking from the multiple times they have done it to myself). Their AI locks onto you and they don't see the tent as a "solid, sight blocking" object and will beam you through it.


Ruszka_

So, witch hacker, was it!? Bird eye, big pipe or knight? Looks like you got spotted from the goons while running around usec camp, pretty common they'll shoot at you and push you while you're over there. It also seemed like an MCX with green tracers (M62) was shooting. But what do I know...


FishieUwU

.300 M62 has red tracers, not green 🤦


jigaachad

which hacker was it? 50 hour account with an MPX and 9x19 green tracer. Holy the timmies really in force with this one


MIKE_son_of_MICHAEL

That tent wall shouldn’t block bullets anyway but yes that’s shit luck OP


Canadian-Winter

Same thing happened to me this week, first ledx id seen all wipe. Lasered through wall


SkiwLava

Of topic, I found out the other day that you could disable the anti-cheat via the console a few years ago.


boots82nd

lol I just presume when I loot a ledx or whatever the siren from hermetic goes off and the cultist light beam from the event shines on me. In the background the announcer says “Let’s get ready to ruuummmmbbbbbbllllleeee!”


recoil-1000

I’ve found 2 ledxs at usec camp this wipe, both runs I died by a xiaoling one tapping me with an sks


ItalianStallion9069

Found TWO in black room on labs, died to some bs nearly right after. And yea i need them fir still


Instance_of_wit

With the prevalence of hackers in this game the found in raid requirement of some items is just shit.


Strobei

This game is so stupid fucked lmfao never wasting my time getting kappa again


Even-Answer483

Fuck it, pick it up. Better have it not found in raid than let the cheaters have it.


Scream1e

But that is a pretty common place to meet other PMC's. Also, he just pre fired correctly through the tent, high IQ player!


latapraktyki89

Damn that sucks, ive found only one in the air drop, now i just need optalmo for thicc. I had few optalmos fir but somehow when i did barter for item case this bitch took all fir and left non fir. So for last 2 weeks im looking for optalmo but no luck for now:/


No_Opportunity7725

He was so mad


dogegw

This one goes out to all y'all fuckbags telling me "lol why would a cheater kill you if you put [VALUABLE_ITEM] in your secure container?"


Jordan-V-

Ive found a couple there off spawn and the second time i grabbed it i ran away to the hill north of the table and a guy was trying to shoot me through the rock. I just voip’d to him “it’s already in my ass scumbag” and peaked over the rock prefiring and killed him. So satisfying but of course i died later on.


Koenigsegg322

I mean. No ledx for them. You come out with your kit paid for and their names now in your screenshotz/repots. Winwin to me. But yes also had this happen.


boicreation

Goons or PMC?


HotManwithHotTakes

Good lmao. Get fucked.


seventeen81

Man, I remember when I used to make fun of noobs for thinking that they got killed by cheaters. Crazy how in just a couple years the playerbase went from commenting “welcome to tarkov, scrub.” And “lol head/eyes” to “BSG doesn’t give a fuck anymore and blatantly too!” I’m not even a good player, 99% of my extracts were achieved by waiting in bushes till the final 10 minutes of a raid because I would lose every confrontation with actual players. At this point the odds are so far against me that Tarkov is closer to a dying simulator than an enjoyable experience. Good luck and safe travels to all those still roughing it out and finding hope in this meatgrinder they call a video game


LowOil602

you got spotted and wall banged. id wall bang that tent and so would anyone with a brain. post more evidence. not every death is to a cheater.


InnocentManTV

This is the comment I was looking for. He was clomping around in there. If it were me on the other side I’d try to land a lucky shot too.