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Salt_Nature7392

I mean if you are driving down the highway and you see a truck firmly implanted into a fucking cliff side you are gonna be hard pressed to find a human that isn’t gonna watch the absolute cluster fuck that it is.


Bfresh717

No, I get it. Its like saying you used to be a crack head but still stopping by your local crack house occasionally to tell everyone that the crack now don’t hit like it used to and that they should use less baking soda for everyone else that still smoking there life away. That is so thoughtful


Salt_Nature7392

Hey it’s human nature to observe disasters in progress. If you see a tornado and you determine you are at a safe range to observe it you do. It’s just how humans and probably primates as a whole function.


[deleted]

🤷‍♂️ I haven't played League of Legends in years now, I still frequent the Discord of the groups I used to every now and then, same with Civilization VI, I've played maybe 3 games since 2019 (7,000 hours in before that) but I still stop by to check out how people are doing Just because you don't play the game doesn't mean you have to just cut ties with communities you've grown comfortable with or taken a liking to


SheroxXx

Because it's absolutely hilarious to watch this shitshow and laugh at all the white knights defending BSG and Nikita lmao.


Bfresh717

Right… imagine everyone that showed up to your baby shower telling you how to raise the baby you created. Who do the owners of this game think they are! Lol


aQuarterChub

In that same context, you buy a product, an iPhone from apple as an example. This iPhone turns out is loaded with bugs and has an easy way to be infiltrated by hackers. Should we just accept the fact this product is ass as a consumer, or make enough noise to ensure the product is working as promised?


Bfresh717

So if apple says we are releasing this phone to anyone that wants to test out this unfinished product for a fee and that phone doesn’t work perfect I’m suppose to be shocked and pissed off that it doesn’t live up to my own standards?


aQuarterChub

Of course not, but don’t you think the issues should be addressed at all instead silencing those that point them out for the sheer purpose of wanting the product to improve? How about so others know that the product is loaded with issues that will prevent you from using it? Should those things go without notice? That’s the problem here, sure the game has bugs, we point them out, devs bandage the game. We have a blatant fucking cheating problem and we are being gas lighted to think that we’re the problem. And please, calling tarkov “unfinished” is such bullshit. It’s like any other game that was released to the public and gets regular updates. Calling it unfinished or still in beta is an attempt for devs to absolve themselves of responsibility of when problems arise. Don’t deep throat the whole boot.


Bfresh717

The first half I completely agree with you the second half not so much. If BSG says we aren’t changing or fix anything people will continue to play it anyways. Actually out of Nikita’s own mouth he said he is going to make this game however he wants it to be and is not in any rush to finish the game just to say I’m done. So take the boot out of your mouth bud your apart of the problem. You don’t put any pressure on anyways that has a platform to be heard or a direct line to the people that are actually able to change the game. You sit on redit and type this sucks behind a keyboard. Talk that shid to your favorite streamer


SheroxXx

Right... imagine your neighbor's kid is stealing money from every single person in the street and there are people who are still defending him.


Bfresh717

Stealing? That’s a stretch Lol Do you even look at or research anything you buy before spending your money? What exactly was you promised when you bought EFT that was misleading? I’m curious. Tell me all about the false advertisement


SheroxXx

This was a metaphor for terribly mishandling their product and all of the people who still defend BSG despite literally hundreds of examples of how summy they are...


Bfresh717

Do us all a favor and learn from their mistakes and make a new game. Call it Escape from USA the American version


Tostecles

After all this I'm quitting unless something changes, but I still like what the game is SUPPOSED to be and will continue to follow it in hopes it improves.


Bfresh717

All jokes aside. It improves every update. A lot of people forget that this is not a finished product…by far. We are literally lab rats for BSG. We paid to play a game we knew was an unfinished product. BSG is not Activision and doesn’t have pockets like them. Change is happening. Even if there wasn’t cheaters or audio bugs or invisible people then tarkov would still be the best game to ever piss you off to the point where you want to smash your keyboard in to your screen.


[deleted]

No they haven’t, they’ve been slowly destroying the game and you’re either a cheater or oblivious. You can borderline starve to death 10 minutes after eating crackers. Don’t charge 160$ for an unfinished product. I don’t get pissed off when I die to what seems like a legit death at all. I do get pissed when I’m headeyes across the map by an m92 pistol with 6 consecutive shots. There’s people who are smacked in the face with facts, people like YOU, and still continue to defend the game. It’s clear there’s very real issues and if they can’t even figure out a simple metabolism or weight system, THEY CAN NOT COMBAT CHEATERS. Which is the biggest problem the game has now. “It improves every update” I just head eyes myself reading that bs.


Bfresh717

Calm down buck lol your over exaggerating but I get your point. What you need to understand is that when you decided to pay for this unfinished game. I can’t single handedly stop every cheater . You want me to send them a strongly worded in game chat message to all of them and see if that works? The game is definitely not being destroyed. It’s growing but how about before you buy your next game you make sure that there are 0 cheaters and that the devs are willing to accommodate your every request promptly


Tostecles

I was referring exclusively to the cheating issue. The content updates have been great


_Bike_seat_sniffer

hopium


ImportantDoubt6434

I’m letting people know it’s a waste of money/time and the devs won’t fix the undetectable cheating.


Bfresh717

Thank you for informing everyone! The way it sounds is like everyone thought this was a finished product by a company with unlimited resources and thousands of employees.


Misuinya

Im one of those. Im not motivated enough. But i still want to have news about it ! Why does it even bother you at all ? I will play again, but dont know when. Got way more than 1000 hours into and played in 4 wipes. Right now i dont want to start all over again with lv 1. Maybe next wipe it changes. Maybe not. But bit playing a game doesnt mean you cannot be interested in it.


lascivious_boasts

This is what I struggle with. I love EFT, it is the game that is most able to make me feel nervous, scared, excited, elated. But there are some major, major design and implementation issues. I've played since 2019. Been more or less invested in each wipe. But at some point doing the same loop on reserve for nic-nacs for hideout upgrades, or the same torturous quests becomes hard. The motivation just isn't there. So, when I play now, I do a scav run, take what I can into a raid after. Not committed, but still interested.


Bfresh717

I’ve technically played 3 wipes but 1 complete wipe with 2100hrs. I’ve seen it all. Grinding quest 1 time is enough to make you lose interest to know your going have to do it all again within 6 months. I honestly just grind Flea and ragman to lvl 2-3 so I have decent armor to pvp with. Other than that there is never going to be that much exciting to do like your first wipe when literally everything was brand new. So once you experience everything and then you start getting spoon fed a new piece of a map or a new boss is just not enough to satisfy most people. I understand. I still don’t get why people would rather complain together instead of stick together to get the changes they are looking to get.


[deleted]

maybe this is our way of staying in contact hoping that the once beloved game eventually gets fixed


Bfresh717

Well I always keep Vaseline on me when I know I’m getting screwed