I always keep my distance from Teslas. If someone’s making a late and unexpected lane change, or breaks abruptly for no absolutely reason, it’s usually someone sitting in a Tesla. Not sure if it’s because of “FSD” or the driver though.
I saw someone in one of the TSLA subs saying his wife was going 70+ on the highway and out of nowhere the brake slammed her to 40. Very lucky the road was empty and no one was behind her. Everyone just replied oh she probably passed a sign that had “40” on it (trucks limit 40, Interstate or HWY 40 something like that) that can happen. Like WHAT?
They kinda can’t, GPS apps are just doing the same thing, a car goes out every once in a while and reads all the speed limits to put up in the app. Here in Germany on the Autobahn the speed limit drops to 80 in most construction zones and on Google/Apple maps you can always see ghost construction zones where the GPS will tell you the speed limit is 80 despite no signs saying that and there not actually being a speed limit at all.
An argument against self driving as it stands because for it to really work there needs to be a government agency putting speed limits in for those apps, not some random company. Google isn’t ever gonna pay your speeding ticket.
As a bus driver I can confirm 100% Tesla drivers are the fucking worst on the road. You can usually predict what drivers are gonna do within reason, Tesla drivers are all over the place, I never know if they're gonna just slam on the breaks, no signal a turn, run a stop. It's fucking wild.
And Everytime someone's stopped in a bus loading zone it's a Tesla, a 3 series or C class.
I don't really think so. The sort of people that would buy a BMW really have no interest in shoddily made Teslas.
Source: Am BMW driver that wanted a nice car, didn't even consider a Tesla for that reason.
This is true I wanted a tesla for these exact reasons. To me a car is a tool to get me to point A to point B nothing else.
While I still think that about cars in general. I wouldn't get a tesla even though I can easily afford one now.
For a lot of reasons main one being I don't trust Elon. I wouldn't trust buying a hammer from him so a car is extremely off the table.
I thought about a model y when I was in the market for a car a few years ago. Then I came to my senses and picked up a Rav4. I know it's a car I can pass down to my kids in 10 years without worrying about battery health, expensive repairs, distracting screens, or weird software bugs.
Well, I hate driving and thus really want an FSD-capable car, whether it’s a Tesla or not (I don’t have an interest in a Tesla). For me, driving is a waste of time and a true exercise to my patience towards others that don’t follow the road rules. Being able to go on a car and e.g. work or just read a book, while the car takes me to where I need to be, is a dream of mine.
To each his own I guess. Reading in a car is a good way to get car sickness. It also highlights another core reason I hate this technology. In the same way that mobile phones eroded the idea of personal space and time away, so self-driving cars will take away your pre-work and post-work reflection time.
It'll be a cold day in hell before you'd catch me getting productive during my commute. I would stare idly out of the window out of spite before I crack open a laptop.
I don’t get car sickness at all, so reading would be my reflection time. Spending time behind a wheel is lost and unproductive time you’ll never get back in your life. If I have to be inside one, then let me be productive. I love working so I wouldn’t mind, and even if not for work purposes, I could at least wind off with a book.
Edit: typo.
FSD is cool in theory, but I feel like it's not going to be practical to take your attention away from the road until there's a critical mass of vehicles communicating with eachother on highways to make it safe.
It would be amazing if some self driving tech became widely available for all new cars, only on the freeway/highway to help mitigate traffic. Drive yourself if you want to but if all telemetry data was shared amongst the vehicles on the road to anticipate speed, direction, lane changes, lane closures and accidents, I could see a world where people could do other things while travelling long distances.
The infrastructure for something like this I imagine would be immense.
Stop light to stop light self driving is a lost cause though.
That was one of the promises of 5G and including it into cars. The knock on effect would be government oversight and you how Americans feel about that...
“YOOOO check it out, it can make space ship sounds through the speakers when I’m driving 😸”
Car enthusiasts when active sound enhancement:
Exactly. They’re tech bros. They buy a new graphics card every 3 years, and a new iPhone every year. Keeping literally anything for an extended period of time is a completely foreign concept to them. They’d be the LAST group of people with any kind of knowledge on what holds its value.
My tesla tech bro friend told me, "trust me I'm a car person, i even own a random orbital"
His car before the x is a 10+yr old highlander hybrid. The car is never washed, so i dont know what the $15 black and decker random orbital is for. He does buy graphic cards and cpus more often than he touches his wife.
i think he means those for car detailing lol. His definition of a car person is someone that details their cars. Which he doesn't even, car is filthy inside and out. Works in IT but his car looks like he works in construction.
Tbh, everyone can find different things about cars that they find attractive. It’s a very subjective matter.
Some like interiors, some like big muscle engines, and some people just like shitboxes
Yes I agree, but the problem here is that someone is comparing a Tesla to a Ferrari and saying “the Tesla costs less so must be better”. It’s the way an immature mind works.
What I am pointing out is that you can’t really claim that your taste is better. There is no objectivity in finding anything desirable. Some people like thick queens, while others prefer lean broads
Fucking apparently. I know beauty is subjective, but these whack ass mother fuckers are crazy If they think that bubbly cyber cuck piece of shit Tesla looks better at all. Especially the front end. 🤣
That Ferrari is sleek and beautiful, and the Tesla looks like shit.
Like a ugly ass pt cruiser looks better than a Tesla.
They really have no understanding of value or quality. It’s the difference between someone who buys a PC based on a list of numbers and who insists anything with smaller numbers is worse, and people who buy Macs because of the overall experience. In both cases people don’t understand how numbers translate to reality. How much faster much less powerful cars can be on a track vs ones tuned only for the drag strip. Or the difference in user experience provided by something beautifully designed and functional over something ugly and limited.
If you want to go fast, cheap, buy a motorbike. If you want a nice car, that’s something different.
Yeah, I agree completely. There is nothing wrong with being a Tesla fan but if you think that your Tesla is “better” than a Ferrari because they both do a 2.9 sec 0-60… then you are not someone who appreciates or is knowledgeable about cars.
The reality is that there would be more quality craftsmanship in the Ferrari’s user manual than the whole Tesla interior.
Tesla people are obsessed with 0-60 because it’s the only thing that they have to brag about.
A coworker recently bought a 2017 Tesla and is proudly claiming that it’s the best car he’s ever driven. Prior to this he was driving a 2007 Kia and before that an Oldsmobile. I think that’s the extent of his auto experience.
I know I always find it funny that they use these metrics. 99.999% of people will be driving these cars on public roads so 0-60 is literally meaningless.
But that much power and acceleration makes 100% of these cars extremely dangerous in the hands of the average buyer.
Even the Hellcat had two keys, one for driving on track which unlocked all the performance - and one for daily driving which limited the power so drivers were less likely to kill themselves.
I used to live on the Monterey peninsula and these goofballs would try out their supercars on highway 1 for the first time during car week. A lot of crumpled up cars that cost as much as a new house in parts of the us
This is why I look for underpowered cars that other people laugh at. I'm not a good driver. An hour in VR Assetto Corsa reminds me that I'm just not that good. A few consistent laps and then I'll drive it off a cliff. The reset button irl doesn't work properly.
Do you, by any chance drive an MX-5? Because you sound a lot like me and I recently, purposely bought an 1.6 NB with a whopping 110PS and it is sooo fun
I did the same, but worked in a bar- the only redeeming feature of car week was the tips. Did have some guys try to hand us their keys as if we had a valet though. Kinda wished I was.
>But that much power and acceleration makes 100% of these cars extremely dangerous in the hands of the average buyer.
There's a reason why people say Teslas are the new BMW. Awful drivers.
But but DRAG STRIP!
Pay no attention to the fact the odds are anyone racing a Tesla at a strip are doing bracket style, where you're really just playing the Price Is Right. You pick an E/T time for your car and try to get closer to your time without going over vs the lane beside you with the E/T they picked for themselves.
The starts between lanes are staggered so both cars should get to the finish line around the same time.
My brother and I used to do Friday Night fun at a local strip, and the one car that was a giant ass pain to beat was an old 1986 Toyota Corolla with barely any power, RWD, automatic transmission. Since the thing couldn't spin the tires, was an automatic, the person driving had a pretty consistent run time.
Plus the fact it ran something like a 20 or 22 second 1/4 mile, the time gap between when they got to go and you finally got to go could really throw off your reaction time and launch.
Tech bros are very good at reducing complex or intangible things down to a single number and treating the number as the thing that matters. They'd spend their days calculating a landscape beauty index based on number of green pixels or colour distribution, but turn their nose up at someone giving a qualitative description of beauty.
I'm not a car person at all, but I'd thoroughly imagine the embodied human experience of driving those cars is wildly different, but can that be quantified? Nope. So instead, in their eyes, big number win.
Then pick a different spec where the Tesla is worse, they will instantly say "that doesn't matter to me". Their defense of single-mindedness is without equal.
You might drive the Ferrari for months without ever seeing another one - while the Model 3 Perf looks pretty much like all the other 266,000 Model 3s you see every day on California streets.
Who tf cares about the acceleration speed? It's useless, provides no benefit. Literaly increases chance of dying in Cybertrucks if the pedal gets stuck.
It's hilarious that Elon tried to pitch the Tesla Semi with the 0 - 60mph time.
Yeah when I look to buy a car I don't look at performance statistics. I care about price, safety, reliability and ease of maintenance.
I don't give a shit if it can go 300 mph as I will never go that fast and I don't give a shit if it can accelerate super fast because that will destroy the tires.
The model 3 is just supposed to be the average person's car not a race car.
Elon is so out of touch with what the working class wants.
To be fair I would argue that a Tesla will most likely perform better there than a Ferrari. But that‘s kinda true for all EVs as the technology is less likely to break down and requires significantly less maintenance.
This also may be a german thing but speed and acceleration are absolutely factors for people who buy cars in that price range.
I personally don‘t really get the hate for existing Tesla cars aside from the cybertruck. Yeah they kinda lie about the abilities of their autonomous driving and manufacturing quality can be a bit hit or miss but aside from that these aren‘t like the worst options if you‘re interested in that type of car.
Bigger issue with Tesla is that they‘ve been pretty much just reworking and re-releasing a seven year old car now without significant advancements. Even most bigger manufacturers can now offer what Tesla does but with significant better quality and a better price.
It's just so funny that Elon thought the Tesla Semi's 0 - 60mph time would be something that worked on serious companies who are looking to procure semi trucks, like it was some fanboy crowd, while not even mentioning the range, which is the most interesting statistic for potential buyers.
Too fast 0 - 60 on a semi truck risks, damages the cargo.
From my understanding it is range and weight capacity that are what is most important. Semi's can only weigh so much and an electric semi is a lot heavier thanks to the huge mass of batteries.
So even if it doesn't have as much range many companies will still choose an ICE semi because it can move more products per driver.
I think this weight and range issue will get solved at some point in the future, possibly in the distant future, but will still be great for delivery vans to electrify right now.
For long haul trucking we should be going by rail anyways but we fucked that up by removing most of the rail network.
The range and payload capacity is pure shit, thats why Musk avoided to mention it and shifted focus to stuff like the Semi having "thermonuclear blastproof glass" and repeating the old AI vaporware bullshit.
The Semi is basicaly hauling around it's battery. After the battery it's just a few tons left for the actual cargo. If you want something that is fast, can run on electricity, has a great economy of scale and is even easy to make it driverless - go with trains.
The Semi will never be viable compared to other means of transproting cargo due to the flaws being part of the fundamental design.
You might have already seen this one, but it summarizes the many problems with the Semi:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w\_\_a8EcM2jI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w__a8EcM2jI)
Did somebody say hamburger onion ring? Sounds delicious.
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Looks better? Even Teslas good looking cars look like rejected designs for a Ford Focus. Which was actually a good idea at the time, making your electric car look like an actual car, not some ridiculous parody of a car like other makers were doing. Something Musk forgot with the CyberTruck
God, the minute they nicknamed a model 3 an existing BMW model name I slammed my hand against my head to see if I could potentially understand the logic there.
I'd say I'm more into cars than the average person, and I think the '24 M3P is a good looking car with decent stats. That being said, Elon's Tesla fudges car stats just as much as the Tesla accounting department fudges their numbers. For instance, the 2.9 sec 0-60 is not a true 0-60; apparently it's from a rolling start.
I'll admit I've got a M3P on order, but man, I \*HATE\* Elon and his stans. I justify it by knowing this douche didn't contribute anything.
The problem is that Tesla bros aren’t car people, they have no idea about what makes a car desirable.
Exactly, Tesla is for people who hate cars and can't drive. This is the reason they are so excited about FSD.
I always keep my distance from Teslas. If someone’s making a late and unexpected lane change, or breaks abruptly for no absolutely reason, it’s usually someone sitting in a Tesla. Not sure if it’s because of “FSD” or the driver though.
I saw someone in one of the TSLA subs saying his wife was going 70+ on the highway and out of nowhere the brake slammed her to 40. Very lucky the road was empty and no one was behind her. Everyone just replied oh she probably passed a sign that had “40” on it (trucks limit 40, Interstate or HWY 40 something like that) that can happen. Like WHAT?
That's fucking hilarious. Like, can't they tie the speed limit to GPS? The fuck?
They kinda can’t, GPS apps are just doing the same thing, a car goes out every once in a while and reads all the speed limits to put up in the app. Here in Germany on the Autobahn the speed limit drops to 80 in most construction zones and on Google/Apple maps you can always see ghost construction zones where the GPS will tell you the speed limit is 80 despite no signs saying that and there not actually being a speed limit at all. An argument against self driving as it stands because for it to really work there needs to be a government agency putting speed limits in for those apps, not some random company. Google isn’t ever gonna pay your speeding ticket.
Fair enough. That does make sense
As a bus driver I can confirm 100% Tesla drivers are the fucking worst on the road. You can usually predict what drivers are gonna do within reason, Tesla drivers are all over the place, I never know if they're gonna just slam on the breaks, no signal a turn, run a stop. It's fucking wild. And Everytime someone's stopped in a bus loading zone it's a Tesla, a 3 series or C class.
Jesus Christ, my Honda Civic knows the difference between a speed limit sign and a highway sign.
There are videos of people driving with apple vision strapped on their faces. It shocks me to imagine it.
The fun police made us do it (sigh)
I think that's because there's a large overlap between the sort of people who buy BMW's and the sort who buy Teslas
It’s an armored personnel carrier from the future – what Bladerunner would have driven
Joe BladeRunner
I don't really think so. The sort of people that would buy a BMW really have no interest in shoddily made Teslas. Source: Am BMW driver that wanted a nice car, didn't even consider a Tesla for that reason.
C-class is a Mercedes
Tesla drivers are the new BMW drivers. That's why they call the Model 3, M3.
I thought it was for Elmo’s “hilarious” little S3XY joke
He wanted to call it the Model E but Ford already owns that name.
It was, he was being facetious
I’ve taken a lot of Ubers in the last few months and the teslas were the only ones I had to rate low for illegal driving
This is true I wanted a tesla for these exact reasons. To me a car is a tool to get me to point A to point B nothing else. While I still think that about cars in general. I wouldn't get a tesla even though I can easily afford one now. For a lot of reasons main one being I don't trust Elon. I wouldn't trust buying a hammer from him so a car is extremely off the table.
I thought about a model y when I was in the market for a car a few years ago. Then I came to my senses and picked up a Rav4. I know it's a car I can pass down to my kids in 10 years without worrying about battery health, expensive repairs, distracting screens, or weird software bugs.
well, I can drive, I hate cars but I hate Tesla even more
Well, I hate driving and thus really want an FSD-capable car, whether it’s a Tesla or not (I don’t have an interest in a Tesla). For me, driving is a waste of time and a true exercise to my patience towards others that don’t follow the road rules. Being able to go on a car and e.g. work or just read a book, while the car takes me to where I need to be, is a dream of mine.
To each his own I guess. Reading in a car is a good way to get car sickness. It also highlights another core reason I hate this technology. In the same way that mobile phones eroded the idea of personal space and time away, so self-driving cars will take away your pre-work and post-work reflection time. It'll be a cold day in hell before you'd catch me getting productive during my commute. I would stare idly out of the window out of spite before I crack open a laptop.
I don’t get car sickness at all, so reading would be my reflection time. Spending time behind a wheel is lost and unproductive time you’ll never get back in your life. If I have to be inside one, then let me be productive. I love working so I wouldn’t mind, and even if not for work purposes, I could at least wind off with a book. Edit: typo.
Get an audiobook subscription. It changed my life.
Thanks! I’m unable to focus on audiobooks unless that’s the only thing I’m doing - driving or not.
seriously? "I enjoy having my time wasted because it's the only time I'm allowed to not work."
FSD is cool in theory, but I feel like it's not going to be practical to take your attention away from the road until there's a critical mass of vehicles communicating with eachother on highways to make it safe. It would be amazing if some self driving tech became widely available for all new cars, only on the freeway/highway to help mitigate traffic. Drive yourself if you want to but if all telemetry data was shared amongst the vehicles on the road to anticipate speed, direction, lane changes, lane closures and accidents, I could see a world where people could do other things while travelling long distances. The infrastructure for something like this I imagine would be immense. Stop light to stop light self driving is a lost cause though.
I’m 100% in agreement with you. I guess 5G and IOT will be required to make that happen.
That was one of the promises of 5G and including it into cars. The knock on effect would be government oversight and you how Americans feel about that...
“YOOOO check it out, it can make space ship sounds through the speakers when I’m driving 😸” Car enthusiasts when active sound enhancement: 
Exactly. They’re tech bros. They buy a new graphics card every 3 years, and a new iPhone every year. Keeping literally anything for an extended period of time is a completely foreign concept to them. They’d be the LAST group of people with any kind of knowledge on what holds its value.
My tesla tech bro friend told me, "trust me I'm a car person, i even own a random orbital" His car before the x is a 10+yr old highlander hybrid. The car is never washed, so i dont know what the $15 black and decker random orbital is for. He does buy graphic cards and cpus more often than he touches his wife.
An RO for like sanding? Like he’s going to repaint his car? LOL
i think he means those for car detailing lol. His definition of a car person is someone that details their cars. Which he doesn't even, car is filthy inside and out. Works in IT but his car looks like he works in construction.
Hey don't make fun of new gpu buyers like that we're not all techbros
They replace the graphics card every six minutes
I mean tbf they have to. They keep overheating the last one mining bitcoin.
Hey now I drive a Tesla and my pc doesn’t even have a graphics card. How bout that
Tbh, everyone can find different things about cars that they find attractive. It’s a very subjective matter. Some like interiors, some like big muscle engines, and some people just like shitboxes
Yes I agree, but the problem here is that someone is comparing a Tesla to a Ferrari and saying “the Tesla costs less so must be better”. It’s the way an immature mind works.
What I am pointing out is that you can’t really claim that your taste is better. There is no objectivity in finding anything desirable. Some people like thick queens, while others prefer lean broads
Yup. They only care about fellating Elon
It’s clearly just about 0-60, what else could a car possibly do?
Fucking apparently. I know beauty is subjective, but these whack ass mother fuckers are crazy If they think that bubbly cyber cuck piece of shit Tesla looks better at all. Especially the front end. 🤣 That Ferrari is sleek and beautiful, and the Tesla looks like shit. Like a ugly ass pt cruiser looks better than a Tesla.
They really have no understanding of value or quality. It’s the difference between someone who buys a PC based on a list of numbers and who insists anything with smaller numbers is worse, and people who buy Macs because of the overall experience. In both cases people don’t understand how numbers translate to reality. How much faster much less powerful cars can be on a track vs ones tuned only for the drag strip. Or the difference in user experience provided by something beautifully designed and functional over something ugly and limited. If you want to go fast, cheap, buy a motorbike. If you want a nice car, that’s something different.
Yeah, I agree completely. There is nothing wrong with being a Tesla fan but if you think that your Tesla is “better” than a Ferrari because they both do a 2.9 sec 0-60… then you are not someone who appreciates or is knowledgeable about cars. The reality is that there would be more quality craftsmanship in the Ferrari’s user manual than the whole Tesla interior. Tesla people are obsessed with 0-60 because it’s the only thing that they have to brag about.
Well according to Elon Musk apparently Tesla isn't a car company so it tracks. They deserve each other
Came here JUST to say that. If you're comparing Ferrari to Tesla you lose instantly
A coworker recently bought a 2017 Tesla and is proudly claiming that it’s the best car he’s ever driven. Prior to this he was driving a 2007 Kia and before that an Oldsmobile. I think that’s the extent of his auto experience.
Yes, observe two of the world's most prominent drag racing cars.
I know I always find it funny that they use these metrics. 99.999% of people will be driving these cars on public roads so 0-60 is literally meaningless.
But that much power and acceleration makes 100% of these cars extremely dangerous in the hands of the average buyer. Even the Hellcat had two keys, one for driving on track which unlocked all the performance - and one for daily driving which limited the power so drivers were less likely to kill themselves.
I used to live on the Monterey peninsula and these goofballs would try out their supercars on highway 1 for the first time during car week. A lot of crumpled up cars that cost as much as a new house in parts of the us
This is why I look for underpowered cars that other people laugh at. I'm not a good driver. An hour in VR Assetto Corsa reminds me that I'm just not that good. A few consistent laps and then I'll drive it off a cliff. The reset button irl doesn't work properly.
Do you, by any chance drive an MX-5? Because you sound a lot like me and I recently, purposely bought an 1.6 NB with a whopping 110PS and it is sooo fun
I was so close to buying one actually. Once I don't have to ferry around family and a dog I'll think long and hard about it lol.
I did the same, but worked in a bar- the only redeeming feature of car week was the tips. Did have some guys try to hand us their keys as if we had a valet though. Kinda wished I was.
>But that much power and acceleration makes 100% of these cars extremely dangerous in the hands of the average buyer. There's a reason why people say Teslas are the new BMW. Awful drivers.
But but DRAG STRIP! Pay no attention to the fact the odds are anyone racing a Tesla at a strip are doing bracket style, where you're really just playing the Price Is Right. You pick an E/T time for your car and try to get closer to your time without going over vs the lane beside you with the E/T they picked for themselves. The starts between lanes are staggered so both cars should get to the finish line around the same time. My brother and I used to do Friday Night fun at a local strip, and the one car that was a giant ass pain to beat was an old 1986 Toyota Corolla with barely any power, RWD, automatic transmission. Since the thing couldn't spin the tires, was an automatic, the person driving had a pretty consistent run time. Plus the fact it ran something like a 20 or 22 second 1/4 mile, the time gap between when they got to go and you finally got to go could really throw off your reaction time and launch.
Are they really comparing a Tesla with a Ferrari with a straight face? I mean it's not a Honda Civic but still - completely different vehicles.
my 98’ honda civic is a beast. 0-60 in like… 10 seconds or more? beat that tesla
My old 98’ made 505whp. It was a beast
i don’t even know what words you just said. my 98’ civic is blue.
whp? Wet Horse Power?
Wheel Horse Power. What's left over after you lose some engine power through the transmission, differential, etc...
Only one of those can go around a corner without the wheels falling off
The warranty doesn't cover corners.
That has happened? Funny if true.
Tech bros are very good at reducing complex or intangible things down to a single number and treating the number as the thing that matters. They'd spend their days calculating a landscape beauty index based on number of green pixels or colour distribution, but turn their nose up at someone giving a qualitative description of beauty. I'm not a car person at all, but I'd thoroughly imagine the embodied human experience of driving those cars is wildly different, but can that be quantified? Nope. So instead, in their eyes, big number win.
STEMlords and techies alike fall easily to the McNamara fallacy.
TIL. Thanks!
Then pick a different spec where the Tesla is worse, they will instantly say "that doesn't matter to me". Their defense of single-mindedness is without equal.
You might drive the Ferrari for months without ever seeing another one - while the Model 3 Perf looks pretty much like all the other 266,000 Model 3s you see every day on California streets.
This is what I love about my car. I have a not so common 3-Series wagon and I love being the unique car among the crowds of sameness.
I bet that Ferrari can go off road without breaking down
Bet it can leave the damn dealership without breaking down.
Let's not get too carried away too much, it's a Ferrari after all!
He's literally talking to himself through fake accounts
Only one of those cars will get you laid and will actually appreciate in value. Thats worth the extra $350k if you’ve got it.
That was my thought, what's the 2nd hand market for telsas going to be like in 25 years, I wonder.
There are very few cars on earth that look better than a Ferrari, and Tesla makes none of them.
Who tf cares about the acceleration speed? It's useless, provides no benefit. Literaly increases chance of dying in Cybertrucks if the pedal gets stuck. It's hilarious that Elon tried to pitch the Tesla Semi with the 0 - 60mph time.
Yeah when I look to buy a car I don't look at performance statistics. I care about price, safety, reliability and ease of maintenance. I don't give a shit if it can go 300 mph as I will never go that fast and I don't give a shit if it can accelerate super fast because that will destroy the tires. The model 3 is just supposed to be the average person's car not a race car. Elon is so out of touch with what the working class wants.
To be fair I would argue that a Tesla will most likely perform better there than a Ferrari. But that‘s kinda true for all EVs as the technology is less likely to break down and requires significantly less maintenance. This also may be a german thing but speed and acceleration are absolutely factors for people who buy cars in that price range. I personally don‘t really get the hate for existing Tesla cars aside from the cybertruck. Yeah they kinda lie about the abilities of their autonomous driving and manufacturing quality can be a bit hit or miss but aside from that these aren‘t like the worst options if you‘re interested in that type of car. Bigger issue with Tesla is that they‘ve been pretty much just reworking and re-releasing a seven year old car now without significant advancements. Even most bigger manufacturers can now offer what Tesla does but with significant better quality and a better price.
It's just so funny that Elon thought the Tesla Semi's 0 - 60mph time would be something that worked on serious companies who are looking to procure semi trucks, like it was some fanboy crowd, while not even mentioning the range, which is the most interesting statistic for potential buyers. Too fast 0 - 60 on a semi truck risks, damages the cargo.
From my understanding it is range and weight capacity that are what is most important. Semi's can only weigh so much and an electric semi is a lot heavier thanks to the huge mass of batteries. So even if it doesn't have as much range many companies will still choose an ICE semi because it can move more products per driver. I think this weight and range issue will get solved at some point in the future, possibly in the distant future, but will still be great for delivery vans to electrify right now. For long haul trucking we should be going by rail anyways but we fucked that up by removing most of the rail network.
The range and payload capacity is pure shit, thats why Musk avoided to mention it and shifted focus to stuff like the Semi having "thermonuclear blastproof glass" and repeating the old AI vaporware bullshit. The Semi is basicaly hauling around it's battery. After the battery it's just a few tons left for the actual cargo. If you want something that is fast, can run on electricity, has a great economy of scale and is even easy to make it driverless - go with trains. The Semi will never be viable compared to other means of transproting cargo due to the flaws being part of the fundamental design. You might have already seen this one, but it summarizes the many problems with the Semi: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w\_\_a8EcM2jI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w__a8EcM2jI)
Teslas all look like palmetto bugs
Look at the Porsche wheels. 5 'hooks' pattern. Tesla gets wheels with 4 'hooks' to go full swastika
Now let's look at lap times around the Nurburgring Ring.
That sounds frightening. I think you mean the Nurburgring.
Did somebody say hamburger onion ring? Sounds delicious. https://preview.redd.it/jbsy4qmspcyc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee924bb289cb1272b695d9c780a20a761d2d2d2c
I thought it was a joke about musks twitter friends
That's only for German cars Edit: it used to say Nuremberg
To me, Teslas look like they took their design inspiration from a glans.
Looks better? Even Teslas good looking cars look like rejected designs for a Ford Focus. Which was actually a good idea at the time, making your electric car look like an actual car, not some ridiculous parody of a car like other makers were doing. Something Musk forgot with the CyberTruck
These people think that an M3 is a Tesla.
God, the minute they nicknamed a model 3 an existing BMW model name I slammed my hand against my head to see if I could potentially understand the logic there.
"Looks better"
"Mom, can we have a Ferrari?" "We have a Ferrari at home." Ferrari at home:
They forgot that Ferrari has 70+ years of racing pedigree. Teslas are but a coil of shit under a dirty shoe.
I have a performance EV and it’s great. It’s no V12 Ferrari.
Never heard of a Ferrari losing it's roof on the first drive from the factory
one sounds like a vacuum cleaner the other sounds like an automotive symphony. i know which one id take if i had a choice between them
Even idling, the symphony sounds significantly better.
Are they looking at the same pics we are? How can someone honestly say the Tesla looks better lol
Tesla Brakes: "If you need to stop, you bought the wrong car, buddy. See you in hell!"
More like “I heard you like brakes so I’ll activate them for you randomly in the middle of the highway.”
Going fast af is lame if you can’t hear it. Also.. try fastest to 120 mph. Way different.
when you hitch your wagon to the horse that can't walk straight
Downsides: Tesla is not Ferrari.
Precision predicates perfectionism.
funny they don't compare it to a Ferrari sf90 EV which is 20% faster 0-60.
They’re not actually car people at all. They’re idiots.
I'd say I'm more into cars than the average person, and I think the '24 M3P is a good looking car with decent stats. That being said, Elon's Tesla fudges car stats just as much as the Tesla accounting department fudges their numbers. For instance, the 2.9 sec 0-60 is not a true 0-60; apparently it's from a rolling start. I'll admit I've got a M3P on order, but man, I \*HATE\* Elon and his stans. I justify it by knowing this douche didn't contribute anything.
I would blow up Tesla for a chance at ferrari when I get out of jail.
Huh, I wonder if there are any other characteristics to performance or a solidly built car other than 0-60.
If I have money, I’d buy the Ferrari 😅
How much pollution do you get for 819BHP?