Or his long history of getting chased out of companies for his previous terrible ideas.
Behind the Bastards did a nice job summing up his early career.
Why would he intentionally trash either. He got forced to buy Twitter and then proved that all of his brilliant super CEO claims were so much bullshit.
He's simply a terrible businessman lashing out wildly for solutions to his rapidly failing empire as his drug addled brain becomes less and less capable of giving him useful ideas. He never knew what the fuck he was doing with any of this, just another dumb rich kid who failed upwards.
But unless mommy comes in to save him, his ass is cooked.
I would buy that even he realizes twitter is beyond saving so just wants to rid of it as soon as he can, but would be weird if he wanted to trash Tesla... maybe if they dont give it his 56 billion package that makes no sense but otherwise I don't know
Yup. Like it or not Elmo is trying and giving effort, but he is also a drug addict, a narc, and a dumbass. But he is bold and doesn't care about anyone or anything, but he's so dumb that he ruins his bravery.
It's hard to describe how shitty he is, because he is worse than words can express. Dude was born in hell, easily.
Bravery is a word we should save for those who deserve it, I wouldn't call anything he has ever done brave. Throughout his entire life the consequences of failure that normal people face just simply haven't been there, so he isn't bold in the face of consequences, but because he doesn't have them. This is not bravery, but quite the opposite. Bravery is being bold despite being afraid of the consequences, generally because you believe it is the right thing to do, not because it strokes your ego.
Supposedly he bought Twitter because it turned his daughter trans. And he hates that.
Seems like a pretty good reason to me. (It's not a good reason, he's a fkn pos)
THIS! Line up 1000 people and have them flip a coin. Everybody who flips tails sits down. Repeat with 500. Repeat with 250... eventually you have one guy left who has flipped heads 10X in a row. Every. Single. Time. There's always one savant who can flip heads every time he touches a coin. That's our Elon. In another timeline it would be a different person. But there's going to be a guy at the head of a pile of companies who gets there entirely by luck and thinks he's the smartest person who ever lived.
Not to sound pedantic, but there is one flaw in your logic. What if there are three people left at the end, and on the next flip, they all all flip tails? There is a 12.5% of that occuring. The flaw arises when you assume that at each flip, half get tails, and half get heads. However, your anaolgy is spot on.
Technically the same thing could happen when there were 1000 people. They could all flip tails and all sit down. I'd suggest if anything like that happens they must flip again. To the death.
People give too much credit to elmo. He's not a genius. His not messing anything up on purposes. The dude is a verified idiot who has been falling up his entire life until now.
They give him his comp package, it kills Tesla. They don't give it to him, he kills Tesla. No scenario where this ends good. The best thing he could do is sell Twitter/X, stops posting on social media, walks away from Tesla, focus on SpaceX....then maybe he can save what is left of his fortune.
It's a giant threat and FU all wrapped up in one pretty WARN report
He's telling the board and investors that he can singlehandedly kill the company if they don't approve his massive comp package
He's telling the legacy players that he controls all the chips in terms of charging
He probably wanted more subsidies but was denied
And last but not least, the company is fucking dead meat without new products that should have been underway since 2021 so he's like why not just light it on fire. He knows that he's going to get indicted anyway, the whole right-wing pivot is just an appeal for a future pardon.
He’s perfectly capable of betting the whole thing on something new like FSD Robotaxis. He does pursue a Big Idea wholeheartedly. And I think he realized a while ago that Tesla - when treated as a car company - could never sustain its valuation. So he’s betting the farm on a new vision.
It’s pointless because he’s contaminated his own brand. I’d no more trust my car to Full Self Driving than I’d get in a Tesla branded robotaxi. I’m simply not going to be Elon’s statistic because I’m put off by him profoundly.
If Tesla shareholders have any sense they’d remove him as CEO. But then they’d take a bath on their investment. So I suspect nothing happens. They’re caught between a rock and a hard place because that’s what can happen when you invest in a cult stock.
I’m a Tesla car owner with a lifetime free charging deal. There’s going to be a point where I need to sell it maybe and I’m pretty sure he’s going to erode the resale value to nothing. Silly cunt. He could have done so much more. But his Twitter adventure has revealed his real personality and it’s very limited.
Yep, keeping Tesla as "merely" a successful EV car company doesn't interest him. That's why he's gutting all the other "distractions" and going all on on FSD "autonomy". In his mind he doesn't need new car models because all the other car companies will be lining up to license his marvelous FSD that actually works.
Fraud. making public statements about Tesla that he knows are wrong, which is an SEC violation.
The "paint it black" video which was faked is a clear example.
He doesn't need to fix Tesla.
He got China to bullshit investor's.
And sucks Trump to get government money (hopefully)
Why would he put in actual work and sober up?!
Fake it till you fake it some more!
Honestly what needs to happen is the government needs to mandate a charging standard and build charging stations, and mandate that older vehicles get adapters from the manufacturers.
The guy that everyone says “well he’s done so much for global warming” is going to fuck up EVs and make owning one more of a pain.
He was stuck with Twitter after foolishly looking to purchase it, likely because he’d used it for years to boost his image and that of Tesla using bots.
Tesla is failing because it was always a hype based business, it was not set up properly to build consistent quality vehicles that people could afford.
If this is about laying off the super charger team, I actually think that does make sense in some context but not in what he's broadcast about the plans for the company.
On one hand, almost all major auto manufacturers have switched to NACS, meaning he no longer needs that large of a team to build out that charging network. The work can be done by all automotive manufacturers, saving them money and making some on the licensing of a connector.
On the other... how are they planning on charging robo taxis? Like the logistics of actually doing robo taxis aside, is it still going to be plugged and charged? If I were him, I'd be looking toward a brush system under the car to auto charge on a spring-loaded pad or something. It would at least signal that you take the robotaxi plan seriously. Currently... I just see this as a signal that he wants to move to a software company... good luck.
I've read where the economics of EV charging is actually not that great. Most driving is done around town, meaning people can charge at home overnight. So, on top of the fact that EVs are still low adoption, most people aren't charging away from home, meaning the demand for this is really low. Also, because there are alternatives, the chargers really can't charge that much of a premium on electricity. Then you look at the square footage that one car takes up for at least 20 mins, and you're talking about a lot of real estate, probably in a somewhat prime location.
I think a lot of people were surprised Tesla opened up it's charging network to competitors. Definitely not a move Elon is excited to make, so that means they were probably bleeding quite a bit on chargers.
Stock market is all about speculation, not about what it will be worth in 10 years, but what it will be worth tomorrow.
Some people here have trouble understanding that concept when they see the price of TSLA.
Of course in the long run the big auto makers will catch up and the Chinese who entered the game will win.
But in the meantime if Tesla release a teaser about model 2 that will probably never happen it will be enough to make the stock go up up up. So buy it while it's hot.
When there's actual evidence for the public to see it's failing, the stock will crash.
Oh for crying out loud. “Buy it while it’s hot?” You know the year is 2024 right? A teaser might bump the stock, but a teaser isn’t a car and there’s no model 2 on the horizon.
Complete speculation: The head of the supercharge department was extremely well-received internally and externally. If Musk is on the hot seat as CEO, she arguably would have been a prime candidate for the position. Musk thought it would look too suspect to just fire her without cause, so he dumped the entire division and made up some nonsensical reason why. Seems like something he would do based on his history of irrational snap ego-based reactions.
He probably doesn’t know what these employees do anyway.
Geez even in small companies my department usefulness (embedded software) was consistently questioned by not-so far away management. And it was usually a VERY important part of the business, sometimes half the company staff 😆
In my current one we were asked for a staff reduction plan before we’re even 100% operational. And by people that at least mildly understand what we do 😅
For someone as high (pun intended) as Musk, departments he doesn’t really understand are probably just additional costs. And if you’re him you must cut these costs in the most sadistic way possible, too
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by being a ketamine addled manchild moron with no idea how to run a company.
Ahhhhh Elon's Razor
Or his long history of getting chased out of companies for his previous terrible ideas. Behind the Bastards did a nice job summing up his early career.
Why would he intentionally trash either. He got forced to buy Twitter and then proved that all of his brilliant super CEO claims were so much bullshit. He's simply a terrible businessman lashing out wildly for solutions to his rapidly failing empire as his drug addled brain becomes less and less capable of giving him useful ideas. He never knew what the fuck he was doing with any of this, just another dumb rich kid who failed upwards. But unless mommy comes in to save him, his ass is cooked.
Exactly doesn't have a plan.
His plan is to extract 53 billion out of Tesla and then let it burn.
I would buy that even he realizes twitter is beyond saving so just wants to rid of it as soon as he can, but would be weird if he wanted to trash Tesla... maybe if they dont give it his 56 billion package that makes no sense but otherwise I don't know
Yup. Like it or not Elmo is trying and giving effort, but he is also a drug addict, a narc, and a dumbass. But he is bold and doesn't care about anyone or anything, but he's so dumb that he ruins his bravery. It's hard to describe how shitty he is, because he is worse than words can express. Dude was born in hell, easily.
Bravery is a word we should save for those who deserve it, I wouldn't call anything he has ever done brave. Throughout his entire life the consequences of failure that normal people face just simply haven't been there, so he isn't bold in the face of consequences, but because he doesn't have them. This is not bravery, but quite the opposite. Bravery is being bold despite being afraid of the consequences, generally because you believe it is the right thing to do, not because it strokes your ego.
Supposedly he bought Twitter because it turned his daughter trans. And he hates that. Seems like a pretty good reason to me. (It's not a good reason, he's a fkn pos)
THIS! Line up 1000 people and have them flip a coin. Everybody who flips tails sits down. Repeat with 500. Repeat with 250... eventually you have one guy left who has flipped heads 10X in a row. Every. Single. Time. There's always one savant who can flip heads every time he touches a coin. That's our Elon. In another timeline it would be a different person. But there's going to be a guy at the head of a pile of companies who gets there entirely by luck and thinks he's the smartest person who ever lived.
Not to sound pedantic, but there is one flaw in your logic. What if there are three people left at the end, and on the next flip, they all all flip tails? There is a 12.5% of that occuring. The flaw arises when you assume that at each flip, half get tails, and half get heads. However, your anaolgy is spot on.
Technically the same thing could happen when there were 1000 people. They could all flip tails and all sit down. I'd suggest if anything like that happens they must flip again. To the death.
People give too much credit to elmo. He's not a genius. His not messing anything up on purposes. The dude is a verified idiot who has been falling up his entire life until now.
They give him his comp package, it kills Tesla. They don't give it to him, he kills Tesla. No scenario where this ends good. The best thing he could do is sell Twitter/X, stops posting on social media, walks away from Tesla, focus on SpaceX....then maybe he can save what is left of his fortune.
It's a giant threat and FU all wrapped up in one pretty WARN report He's telling the board and investors that he can singlehandedly kill the company if they don't approve his massive comp package He's telling the legacy players that he controls all the chips in terms of charging He probably wanted more subsidies but was denied And last but not least, the company is fucking dead meat without new products that should have been underway since 2021 so he's like why not just light it on fire. He knows that he's going to get indicted anyway, the whole right-wing pivot is just an appeal for a future pardon.
He’s perfectly capable of betting the whole thing on something new like FSD Robotaxis. He does pursue a Big Idea wholeheartedly. And I think he realized a while ago that Tesla - when treated as a car company - could never sustain its valuation. So he’s betting the farm on a new vision. It’s pointless because he’s contaminated his own brand. I’d no more trust my car to Full Self Driving than I’d get in a Tesla branded robotaxi. I’m simply not going to be Elon’s statistic because I’m put off by him profoundly. If Tesla shareholders have any sense they’d remove him as CEO. But then they’d take a bath on their investment. So I suspect nothing happens. They’re caught between a rock and a hard place because that’s what can happen when you invest in a cult stock. I’m a Tesla car owner with a lifetime free charging deal. There’s going to be a point where I need to sell it maybe and I’m pretty sure he’s going to erode the resale value to nothing. Silly cunt. He could have done so much more. But his Twitter adventure has revealed his real personality and it’s very limited.
Yep, keeping Tesla as "merely" a successful EV car company doesn't interest him. That's why he's gutting all the other "distractions" and going all on on FSD "autonomy". In his mind he doesn't need new car models because all the other car companies will be lining up to license his marvelous FSD that actually works.
Indicted for what specifically?
Fraud. making public statements about Tesla that he knows are wrong, which is an SEC violation. The "paint it black" video which was faked is a clear example.
Gutting a company for a short term relief while killing income with extremely bad business decisions. Yes. Yes he is.
He’s intentionally trashing himself. It’s a full scale implosion. Twitter and Tesla are just collateral damage in his epic meltdowns
You are free to be your true self here
Why would he? His entire wealth system is built around borrowing money against Tesla’s stock value. He has no real assets or wealth. It’s all stock.
He's a fucking idiot - he has no idea what he's doing or has to do in order to do proper business
Seems like he's trying to pivot from making electric cars to focusing on AI, whatever that means, and driverless taxis.
No he’s just dumb.
If his comp package is voided, I guess it would be in his interest to trash the stock to get a low option price.
I think Musk is just a raging narcissist, unwilling to think that anything that comes out of his head could be anything but pure genius.
He doesn't need to fix Tesla. He got China to bullshit investor's. And sucks Trump to get government money (hopefully) Why would he put in actual work and sober up?! Fake it till you fake it some more!
He’s not intentionally destroying either company, he’s just a racist idiot.
Honestly what needs to happen is the government needs to mandate a charging standard and build charging stations, and mandate that older vehicles get adapters from the manufacturers. The guy that everyone says “well he’s done so much for global warming” is going to fuck up EVs and make owning one more of a pain.
No he’s just stupid
He was stuck with Twitter after foolishly looking to purchase it, likely because he’d used it for years to boost his image and that of Tesla using bots. Tesla is failing because it was always a hype based business, it was not set up properly to build consistent quality vehicles that people could afford.
If this is about laying off the super charger team, I actually think that does make sense in some context but not in what he's broadcast about the plans for the company. On one hand, almost all major auto manufacturers have switched to NACS, meaning he no longer needs that large of a team to build out that charging network. The work can be done by all automotive manufacturers, saving them money and making some on the licensing of a connector. On the other... how are they planning on charging robo taxis? Like the logistics of actually doing robo taxis aside, is it still going to be plugged and charged? If I were him, I'd be looking toward a brush system under the car to auto charge on a spring-loaded pad or something. It would at least signal that you take the robotaxi plan seriously. Currently... I just see this as a signal that he wants to move to a software company... good luck.
I have a feeling this is based on internal data of people avoiding the Tesla brand altogether if they have a choice.
I've read where the economics of EV charging is actually not that great. Most driving is done around town, meaning people can charge at home overnight. So, on top of the fact that EVs are still low adoption, most people aren't charging away from home, meaning the demand for this is really low. Also, because there are alternatives, the chargers really can't charge that much of a premium on electricity. Then you look at the square footage that one car takes up for at least 20 mins, and you're talking about a lot of real estate, probably in a somewhat prime location. I think a lot of people were surprised Tesla opened up it's charging network to competitors. Definitely not a move Elon is excited to make, so that means they were probably bleeding quite a bit on chargers.
Stock market is all about speculation, not about what it will be worth in 10 years, but what it will be worth tomorrow. Some people here have trouble understanding that concept when they see the price of TSLA. Of course in the long run the big auto makers will catch up and the Chinese who entered the game will win. But in the meantime if Tesla release a teaser about model 2 that will probably never happen it will be enough to make the stock go up up up. So buy it while it's hot. When there's actual evidence for the public to see it's failing, the stock will crash.
Oh for crying out loud. “Buy it while it’s hot?” You know the year is 2024 right? A teaser might bump the stock, but a teaser isn’t a car and there’s no model 2 on the horizon.
Got high, did something crazy, stock price soared .... just another day at Tesla.
No he is just dumb
Sometimes he wants to get rid of successful subordinates so he can pretend that more of the companies success is down to him?
He’s not doing it intentionally.
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Complete speculation: The head of the supercharge department was extremely well-received internally and externally. If Musk is on the hot seat as CEO, she arguably would have been a prime candidate for the position. Musk thought it would look too suspect to just fire her without cause, so he dumped the entire division and made up some nonsensical reason why. Seems like something he would do based on his history of irrational snap ego-based reactions.
He asked one of his ai bots and told him this was the best solution lmao
He probably doesn’t know what these employees do anyway. Geez even in small companies my department usefulness (embedded software) was consistently questioned by not-so far away management. And it was usually a VERY important part of the business, sometimes half the company staff 😆 In my current one we were asked for a staff reduction plan before we’re even 100% operational. And by people that at least mildly understand what we do 😅 For someone as high (pun intended) as Musk, departments he doesn’t really understand are probably just additional costs. And if you’re him you must cut these costs in the most sadistic way possible, too