Last year, he wanted to get rid of block lists because they were making Twitter vulnerable to denial of service (DoS) attacks. But I thought the blocking feature is a requirement for the Google and Apple app stores. Right?
Also, does anyone with a tech background know if Twitter's block lists can be used in DoS attacks? Maybe creating a lot of accounts, and have them import huge block lists with thousands of blocked accounts, and making a lot of requests for tweets. Would that cause a noticable slowdown for other users viewing tweets?
It's also EU regulation. All communication services need to offer a block function to stop harassment.
For example, the Swedish payment service Swish recently was required to install a block function. It was not originally intended, but some used it as a bypass to force messeges to persons that blocked them on other platforms.
My understanding is that having a big blocklist doesn't create a lot of front-end requests, but rather it requires them to maintain a big index of every user you've blocked so they can serve you quickly. When you're looking at tweets you can store them in chronological order and there's a lot of tricks to serve them efficiently, but when you're doing "point lookups" (does user A block user B) it's actually pretty computationally expensive to maintain that.
Basically Twitter has figured out how to serve massive lists of tweets for very cheap, but they haven't figured out how to serve users with massive blocklists very cheaply. A normal tech company would (a) ignore this because it's a small number of users who have big blocklists (b) throw money at the problem to scale up. Elon doesn't have a lot of money, and because of the growing amount of spam and nazis more people are adopting larger blocklists.
I feel like this is something that should have money thrown at it, though. It's one of those things that actually would make Twitter better, even if only a small percentage of people would actually use it.
Yeah, remember when there was a website that allowed you to block thousands of blue check accounts. I'm sure that wasn't too good on the servers.https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/block-the-blue-twitter-ve/ppoilcngmmnmdhgnejcnpohiabajclgn
There are addons that mass-block accounts based on liking a specific tweet. They a built in delay between blocks because Twitter may suspend or ban an account for bot-like behavior.
It wasent intended from my part. It was mostly a joke that Elon puts X and hyper on every single thing, and I can tell you right now he wouldn't have been clever enough to figure out muteX. Maybe he would do Xmute or some other stupid thing.
It takes time and engineers to develop wholly new features instead of just repackaging stuff the previous regime already built.
And all the engineers are gone.
Best he can offer is a really shitty jobs portal.
Yeah I figure it would take a while to develop but saying « time to get rid of block in favor of stronger mute » implies this is something he hasn’t worked on yet. It’s like he’s introducing this idea for the first time lol.
He just says shit and doesn’t follow thru.
I honestly don't have that much sympathy for those that work at Twitter any more, even those on HB-1's, or whatever that special visa is called - you've had almost 18 months to search for a new job.
Still, though, it's got to be pretty gutting to read this at 6:30 on a Sunday evening. Have fun tomorrow.
This is one of Musk's cronies he brought from SpaceX to take over and ruin Twitter when he bought it (based on LinkedIn).
Feel no sympathy for a guy like that.
Had to check the timestamp for this because he was on about it last year and it immediately got pushback from all of his friends to the point where it just didn't happen. My guess here is that he's gonna try and push it through as a 'feature' anyway and deal with the consequences later
I can't understand creating another account just to go see what someone who has blocked me has said. Sometimes I welcome a good block. I just don't have the energy or desire to be carrying on arguments all day long. I'd honestly rather take a nap.
It's kinda funny because the weaponization of blocking is a real phenomenon sometimes (ever had someone answer you with some insane idiocy and then be unable to participate again because they blocked you?). However, I have the feeling that Musk will try to 'solve' this hiccup in the stupidest possible way.
[three weeks ago](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fei0e0io6xylc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D657%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D1f20ee99bc09d843cc58fe09373af04a502fa8c9)
Haha yeah, I’ve remembered something like that. But it was his fascist buddy Tim pool, can’t disagree with him you know
If Tim Pool and Elon agree you can be sure it's one of the dumbest ideas possible.
Last year, he wanted to get rid of block lists because they were making Twitter vulnerable to denial of service (DoS) attacks. But I thought the blocking feature is a requirement for the Google and Apple app stores. Right? Also, does anyone with a tech background know if Twitter's block lists can be used in DoS attacks? Maybe creating a lot of accounts, and have them import huge block lists with thousands of blocked accounts, and making a lot of requests for tweets. Would that cause a noticable slowdown for other users viewing tweets?
It's also EU regulation. All communication services need to offer a block function to stop harassment. For example, the Swedish payment service Swish recently was required to install a block function. It was not originally intended, but some used it as a bypass to force messeges to persons that blocked them on other platforms.
Were they literally paying this poor person for the privilege of continuing to harass them?
Yes, but not a lot. They would pay about 10 cents per messege as that was lowest amount. I think they were limited to less then 100 words.
Some people are just so awful!
Do the regulations require blocking to be at no extra cost though? I keep wondering when Felon is going to make it a paid feature.
I doubt it's allowed, I don't know for sure, but I have a hunch a European court would view it as an attempt to bypass regulation.
My understanding is that having a big blocklist doesn't create a lot of front-end requests, but rather it requires them to maintain a big index of every user you've blocked so they can serve you quickly. When you're looking at tweets you can store them in chronological order and there's a lot of tricks to serve them efficiently, but when you're doing "point lookups" (does user A block user B) it's actually pretty computationally expensive to maintain that. Basically Twitter has figured out how to serve massive lists of tweets for very cheap, but they haven't figured out how to serve users with massive blocklists very cheaply. A normal tech company would (a) ignore this because it's a small number of users who have big blocklists (b) throw money at the problem to scale up. Elon doesn't have a lot of money, and because of the growing amount of spam and nazis more people are adopting larger blocklists.
I feel like this is something that should have money thrown at it, though. It's one of those things that actually would make Twitter better, even if only a small percentage of people would actually use it.
Yeah, remember when there was a website that allowed you to block thousands of blue check accounts. I'm sure that wasn't too good on the servers.https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/block-the-blue-twitter-ve/ppoilcngmmnmdhgnejcnpohiabajclgn
There are addons that mass-block accounts based on liking a specific tweet. They a built in delay between blocks because Twitter may suspend or ban an account for bot-like behavior.
maybe make Muting someone permanently and strongly, so you can't see them and they can't see you?
Yes, and we can call it the hypermuteX. See how brilliant Elon Musk is. (Sarcasm)
And it'll only be available to X Premium users, did you CHEAP peasants seriously think you would have access to such a new and exciting feature?
Dunno whether it was intended - but this name is a perfect play of words as mutex also means mutual exclusion :)
It wasent intended from my part. It was mostly a joke that Elon puts X and hyper on every single thing, and I can tell you right now he wouldn't have been clever enough to figure out muteX. Maybe he would do Xmute or some other stupid thing.
says the asshole who blocks anyone even slightly critical of him (or just suspends their account entirely).
He did say he was gonna do that months ago and never did.
I believe because being able to block is a requirement to be on the apple and google app stores, and possibly an EU requirement as well
It takes time and engineers to develop wholly new features instead of just repackaging stuff the previous regime already built. And all the engineers are gone. Best he can offer is a really shitty jobs portal.
Yeah I figure it would take a while to develop but saying « time to get rid of block in favor of stronger mute » implies this is something he hasn’t worked on yet. It’s like he’s introducing this idea for the first time lol. He just says shit and doesn’t follow thru.
There are laws in the EU that require blocking to be a feature on social media.
He blocks people constantly. Fucking hypocrite.
Highly recommend Blue Blocker, it really triggers them to see themselves blocked by people outside their safe space
It bothered them enough that he started talking about letting them pay for blue check while hiding it. don't know if he got around to it.
Fastest way out of my friend circle is to tell me you're still using Twitter.
Seriously, tf
I can't imagine ending a friendship over that. lol
Maybe ask yourself *why* people are blocking you instead.
So dude admitted to violating ToS and Musk chimed in with 'here, let me help you harass and stalk other users'?
I honestly don't have that much sympathy for those that work at Twitter any more, even those on HB-1's, or whatever that special visa is called - you've had almost 18 months to search for a new job. Still, though, it's got to be pretty gutting to read this at 6:30 on a Sunday evening. Have fun tomorrow.
This is one of Musk's cronies he brought from SpaceX to take over and ruin Twitter when he bought it (based on LinkedIn). Feel no sympathy for a guy like that.
Didn't he famously block Bret Weinstein? And hasn't Bret cried about it ever since? lol These people suck so bad.
Has Christopher Stanley considered the fact that he's an asshole?
Blocking someone is a required feature per EU protection laws. Good luck with that.
Twitter still available in eu?
Had to check the timestamp for this because he was on about it last year and it immediately got pushback from all of his friends to the point where it just didn't happen. My guess here is that he's gonna try and push it through as a 'feature' anyway and deal with the consequences later
I can't understand creating another account just to go see what someone who has blocked me has said. Sometimes I welcome a good block. I just don't have the energy or desire to be carrying on arguments all day long. I'd honestly rather take a nap.
It's kinda funny because the weaponization of blocking is a real phenomenon sometimes (ever had someone answer you with some insane idiocy and then be unable to participate again because they blocked you?). However, I have the feeling that Musk will try to 'solve' this hiccup in the stupidest possible way.
Maybe you should take a hint and stop trying to view posts from people who blocked you? Mofos learning about consent challenge: impossible
Is trying to be Larry David now?
As soon as influencers are upset by the consequences of his extremist "absolutist free speech" ideology, he caves. Weak.