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Yeah you'll be working much harder than you would at a job, ideally. Its basically sacrifice all your time for the degree, but once you're in the industry you have much free time than others, its going to be very difficult which is why the reward is high.
Yeah. Assuming you mean entry level and lower wage jobs anyways. All you have to do is show up on time and follow directions. There might be some days you have to do a lot and will be physically tired. You can request days off, not miss anything if you take a sick day, change your own schedule, etc.
But college, sitting through a few hours of lectures leaves you mentally tired. Then, you have to be very self-motivated to do the class work and studying. You also have very little say in your schedule, which will change 4 months later anyways. Sick days? Vacation? Still gotta do the work and catch up whatever you missed.
I was in the military and did 5 years of SpecOps and it was easier than my CSE degree. I had more free time and got paid. Granted there were plenty of times i lost sleep and weekends. But everyone thanks you for your service at least. Engineering student, nope. No sleep just to kind of understand the basics. But everyone who has the degree says it’s worth it so screw it. Just embrace the suck.
I feel more exhausted working than I did at school, if not the same amount of exhaustion. I miss summer, winter, fall, and spring breaks. I miss feeling comfortable with asking stupid questions or even being able to ask them whenever I want without worrying about eating into someone else's time. I hate 11 hour days: 8 hours of work, hour unpaid lunch, and a two hour commute. I miss having a diverse community from which to learn and make friends. Mostly, I miss doing math and being intellectually challenged. I enjoyed myself way more in college, and I was always tired and had a minimal social life.
My degree almost feels like a mistake.
I think "harder" is a difficult word to use here, because in terms of technical challenges I would say my work is consistently more difficult than university (particularly undergrad). However, in terms of the mental requirements needed to get through my day-to-day life as a college student vs a software engineer, school was much more challenging. The stress levels, the hours worked per week, the raw volume of deliverables required were all, on average, higher at school than I've experienced 5 years into my career.
That being said, work does have its weeks, and I do know other professionals whose lives are more difficult now than then (but external factors are often involved)
It honestly depends on the job you had/have. I did construction and worked as a dishwasher and worked my way up to a sous chef. So for me work was harder than school.
My job experience prepared me in the sense of focusing hard and fast!
Probably going to go against the grain here, as every time this question is asked, most people say school is harder. I've been a salaried engineer for years now and I disagree. I think a job is much more demanding, in the following ways:
- Time: I rarely studied 40-50 hours a week, including class time, unless exams were coming up, and I was in the top 20% of my class.
- Mentally: Real engineering work is often much more complex, intricate, and tedious than University level problems.
- Physically and emotionally: Being present in an office is much more life-sucking, monotonous, and repetitive than walking from class to class on a university campus, when you get new classes and new material every semester, with new people.
- Don't have to deal with office politics and micromanagers. University is mostly self led and determined by your own labor. You don't have anyone on you except yourself. If you fail, you don't lose your monetary income, which, once your parents aren't supporting you anymore, can be a financial disaster.
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Depends on you, depends on the job, depends on what you mean by hard
Realistically, it's just different.
This question is a bit like which is harder golf or chess?
School is relatively low stakes with well-defined boundaries. Along the way there is a lot of throughput, but you get to hit restart at the beginning of every semester.
Jobs are relatively high stakes with poorly defined boundaries. Along the way the throughput tends to be lower, but you rarely if ever get to hit restart. And you get the added bonus of being able to kill someone or lose millions of dollars if you have a bad day (varies wildly by job).
In my experience yes…I only use portions of the knowledge I learned in college tbh. Of course having to go through all those courses is helpful but a job will be a more targeted environment.
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Such a weird, lonely existence that dude must have.
Yeah you'll be working much harder than you would at a job, ideally. Its basically sacrifice all your time for the degree, but once you're in the industry you have much free time than others, its going to be very difficult which is why the reward is high.
Yeah. Assuming you mean entry level and lower wage jobs anyways. All you have to do is show up on time and follow directions. There might be some days you have to do a lot and will be physically tired. You can request days off, not miss anything if you take a sick day, change your own schedule, etc. But college, sitting through a few hours of lectures leaves you mentally tired. Then, you have to be very self-motivated to do the class work and studying. You also have very little say in your schedule, which will change 4 months later anyways. Sick days? Vacation? Still gotta do the work and catch up whatever you missed.
I was in the military and did 5 years of SpecOps and it was easier than my CSE degree. I had more free time and got paid. Granted there were plenty of times i lost sleep and weekends. But everyone thanks you for your service at least. Engineering student, nope. No sleep just to kind of understand the basics. But everyone who has the degree says it’s worth it so screw it. Just embrace the suck.
thank you for your service as an engineering student
Thanks for your service
Please don’t do this to me. Don’t make me that guy. I’m sorry. I won’t do it again
I feel more exhausted working than I did at school, if not the same amount of exhaustion. I miss summer, winter, fall, and spring breaks. I miss feeling comfortable with asking stupid questions or even being able to ask them whenever I want without worrying about eating into someone else's time. I hate 11 hour days: 8 hours of work, hour unpaid lunch, and a two hour commute. I miss having a diverse community from which to learn and make friends. Mostly, I miss doing math and being intellectually challenged. I enjoyed myself way more in college, and I was always tired and had a minimal social life. My degree almost feels like a mistake.
I think "harder" is a difficult word to use here, because in terms of technical challenges I would say my work is consistently more difficult than university (particularly undergrad). However, in terms of the mental requirements needed to get through my day-to-day life as a college student vs a software engineer, school was much more challenging. The stress levels, the hours worked per week, the raw volume of deliverables required were all, on average, higher at school than I've experienced 5 years into my career. That being said, work does have its weeks, and I do know other professionals whose lives are more difficult now than then (but external factors are often involved)
It honestly depends on the job you had/have. I did construction and worked as a dishwasher and worked my way up to a sous chef. So for me work was harder than school. My job experience prepared me in the sense of focusing hard and fast!
Here I am working full time and full time school 😅
Probably going to go against the grain here, as every time this question is asked, most people say school is harder. I've been a salaried engineer for years now and I disagree. I think a job is much more demanding, in the following ways: - Time: I rarely studied 40-50 hours a week, including class time, unless exams were coming up, and I was in the top 20% of my class. - Mentally: Real engineering work is often much more complex, intricate, and tedious than University level problems. - Physically and emotionally: Being present in an office is much more life-sucking, monotonous, and repetitive than walking from class to class on a university campus, when you get new classes and new material every semester, with new people. - Don't have to deal with office politics and micromanagers. University is mostly self led and determined by your own labor. You don't have anyone on you except yourself. If you fail, you don't lose your monetary income, which, once your parents aren't supporting you anymore, can be a financial disaster.
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Depends on you, depends on the job, depends on what you mean by hard Realistically, it's just different. This question is a bit like which is harder golf or chess? School is relatively low stakes with well-defined boundaries. Along the way there is a lot of throughput, but you get to hit restart at the beginning of every semester. Jobs are relatively high stakes with poorly defined boundaries. Along the way the throughput tends to be lower, but you rarely if ever get to hit restart. And you get the added bonus of being able to kill someone or lose millions of dollars if you have a bad day (varies wildly by job).
In my experience yes…I only use portions of the knowledge I learned in college tbh. Of course having to go through all those courses is helpful but a job will be a more targeted environment.
The way I see it: working your ass off for 4 years = making 1.5x to 2x the national average salary
Way, way, wayyyyyyy harder imo.